RemoteID: Fight It? Ignore It? Comply with it?! Turns out it doesn't matter. 

I don't fear FAA officials, but I'm terrified of Karen.

This is happening in many hobbies. Airsoft, OHV, firearms, do not give them an inch cause its never enough.

"Remote ID put chains on good actor, and give bad actor freedom."

I'm a sponsor at my highschools model aviation club. I will be there for these kids no matter how hard the FAA tries to stop these kids from becoming the next aviation engineers. I love the enthusiasm they have for this hobby. And will do all I can to feed it.

My biggest gripe with the rules as written is broadcasting the location of the pilot and having that data available to anyone with a smartphone. It's just not safe for multiple reasons and intrusive with no logical reason behind why the data is needed. Automobiles have been involved in way more accidents, fatalities, and injuries and yet we do not broadcast the location of our automobiles to add "safety and security" Well spoken and my hope is the overreach and overregulation will find its way to the media and the right people will see it and see how overly burdensome is for the risk factor of our rc aviation hobby. Great video Joshua.

On the 4th we went to a neighborhood party because my daughter has been hanging out with the kids in the neighborhood. One of my neighbors is apparently a Statie and after we saw a camera drone fly over us we got to talking about RC and RemoteID; his recommendation was to just keep flying. Like you said he doesn't have the time, nor the desire to worry about some weird federal regulation about toy planes.

Having spent my entire career in aviation and heavily involved with the FAA I can almost assure you that this topic is at or near the enforcement bottom for the FAA….You are spot on!!! I would bet that the FAA wishes this didn’t exist but they were mandated by some uneducated bureaucrat and must at least jump through the hoops!!! I strongly AGREE with your intended course of action !!

The app thing is what scares me. I already have 1 neighbor that as soon as he hears a drone, he leaves and goes and hunts them down every time, harasses them, films them, and calls the cops. Cops have told him many times theres nothing illegal going on. I already had to file a restraining order on him because of all the harassment and stalking. Now if he's able to just get the specific gps coordinates of everyone flying... Ugh...

I don't like how the AMA is handling it. MultiGP forces you to have an AMA membership, but the AMA does nothing for FPV. That is a decent chunk of money they are getting for dues.

I am glad you made this video and spoke about RID on your live streams. You are the “go to guy” for us to get our information and listen to your opinions. Thank You.

If your willing to risk getting caught, you could put a RID module to a local cop car near an airport and see what happens and if they can figure it out.

I am a retired police commander from Calif. You are exactly right, local law enforcement will not be able to enforce these FAA rules and regulations. Here is why 1. Training and cost = It takes time, training and money to effectively train law enforcement officers before they can go out and cite or properly enforce any penal code sections. Example of this big city have dedicated traffic officer trained in the use of radar. There is a certifying agency Police Officers Standards Training or POST that dictates the training and other qualifications a traffic officer must have prior to writing a citation based on radar or lidar technology. 2. Departmental needs and obligations- In todays busy LEO environment we are strapped for officers. An officer taking time out of his/her day to train and then enforcement of these policies has to be prioritized. We literally rate calls by priority by assignment of numbers. This would not be a priority call and most likely by the time the officer arrived on scene, the person would be gone. We know this and before responding dispatch may have a higher call waiting. 3. Procedural confusion- Drone laws are very vague and ambiguous. Currently I have heard of no remote ID related citations or serious events that have been addressed. Officers just do not know the law and have not been properly training on how to enforce these FAA rules In summary as I have stated on many youtube channels before hobby operators are not in jeopardy of any enforcement violations. Go out and have a great time. I would caution those who have illegal intent in mind one thing. It will only take a few major incidents to have all the remote ID and more policy and procedures come to bare, if you abuse and act carelessly everyone in the hobby will have to pay your price for ignorance. FYI

Every call from a regular voter represents ~10,000 like minded opinions. Ryan Seacrest said every call into his radio show in 2007 represented 25,000 like minded opinions. This is true across the board and instantly gets attention regardless of "what it feels like". If you can get 5 people per district to call in, that makes the issue a top 10 on that representatives radar. If you want to get their attention, you need to be a regular voter, and the more local/state/federal elections you are involved in, the more your call bears weight. So GET INVOLVED!!! Freedom isn't free. It will cost you, not just the soldier, something. You will either lose freedoms, or you will lose time... Your call. Great video as always @JoshuaBardwell

I formerly worked for a federal regulatory agency (not FAA, completely different agency); in some states (in my experience, Texas), locals can essentially assert that a violation of a state/local law that is associated with a federal crime. You are correct, however, that feds (and even locals) lack the resources to effectively enforce this. That said, there are plenty of federal LEOs who are so petty that they will use law enforcement (and their relationships within law enforcement agencies) to their favor over the dumbest shit -- and sometimes at the will of their friends and people of influence (this is the more worrying part); it is one of the reasons why I left.

I love this video Joshua. Well balanced and reasonable video. Not telling anybody to do anything, but showing all sides of the discussion and instilling hope and unity. Thanks

Eloquently articulated Mr. Bardwell. Honestly, I have had more issues with people than with any law enforcement. Most LEO will actually approach you to ensure you are not being irresponsible. If you are not flying like an idiot and if you don't give them attitude, chances are they either leave you alone or sit there with you and just ask drone-related questions. I take that opportunity to provide them with educational knowledge.

This is why I always come back to you! It’s just the best info out there. I’ve gained a lot of clarity over this. I’m one of those who won’t comply, because I fly 2 1/2-3” drones around my property, and my neighbors don’t mind. But I fly airplanes and drones down at my neighborhood marina with the owner, and we’re adjacent to a state park, so I think that will affect me. The rangers have been watching, but as long as we stay over water, and not over park, they don’t bother us. This will change I’m afraid. They don’t like the owner. Lol. Thanks for the great video

I went semi viral recently on instagram because people thought I was an alien. But the amount of hate I got , literally my life being threatened was overwhelming, most of the hate was from Karen’s who simply don’t understand at all what we’re doing and thinking I am somehow looking in depth at their personal property. But this past Fourth of July weekend I had a lot of airtime and was approached by potential Karen’s every few minutes , instead I pathched them in on my extra pair of Fpv goggles and took them for a ride , instant converts . I appreciate so much of what you do here, but we all need to be making sure these people are “going to learn something today”. Thanks J.B your the best!

Listening to this while flying right now thanks for everything JB

A carefully thought out response we should expect from Bardwell. I love the fact that our community regard him as a leader because a fair, pragmatic approach is precisely what’s required to fit such a role. We need to stick together and try to understand each-other’s take on this complex issue. It’s normal to disagree with other community members. United we stand.😊

It is unfortunately a matter of time before someone flying legally with no bad intentions gets attacked or worse, killed by someone who simply looked them up on the app. When this happens it will have been entirely predictable and likely not the single time it will happen. 😥

I normally don't comment, but you did a really good job on this video and I'm honestly impressed by the way you presented the information in a pragmatic and effective tone. Thanks for everything you do for the hobby!

JB....This has been the single best delivery of Remote ID information I have seen to date. Such a great delivery of the most accurate information!!

Thanks for this video, I've been studying for my part 107 for various reasons and also slowly making my way into the FPV world and I was getting worried but your words have given me hope.

I am an aircraft mechanic. I have only interfaced with an FAA inspector 1 time in the last 3 years. They do not have the number of people required to police this. The real threat is Karens.

This hobby has great minds, there's already a reprogrammable remote id out there.

You've posted many many well thought out and intelligently presented videos over the years. This is among the best. Very very well put together and stated. Thank you

100000% right on. Thank you for jumping in front of this freight train, but I agree with your general assessment that we're pretty much screwed if we don't fly at an AMA site. Keep fighting the good fight!!!

The first mistake was talking with the FAA as though they where gonna listen to the drone community. We need to remember this next time more rules come out. Our reaction unfortunately needs to be of outrage to fight even the smallest new rules.

Well maybe this might bring kits and scratch builds back. If they can’t sell us ready to fly aircraft, then buy the parts and build it. I’d love to see more aircraft kits and plans again.

Joshua, what a well thought out and measured response to RID. I, for one, just hate that some moron could find me and harass me as I do my job. I sometimes find your videos have a bit of a harsh edge to them, but this one is absolutely pitch perfect. Now I'm gonna watch that RID spoofing video and fire up my soldering iron. Thank you for all you do for the hobby.

Mr. Bardwell, thank you so much for sharing this one with us. You are absolutely right in my opinion. We have to stick together and help each other no matter what. This hobby is something we should be enjoying without unwanted fingers being stuck in it and if you do it as a job, you should be able to do what you need to to make a living. Thank you sir for sharing you wisdom with us again. :)

Thanks for making this video- wish I had the energy to fight back right now. these new rules and regs adds this weird headache and dark aura over flying for me. I've been accosted too many times to feel safe with these rules. Been on my mind daily :(

Perfect article Joshua, thanks for making it so clear. Personally I'm completely done with all types of government overreach anyway. I never have and never will buy DJI or any manufacturer who forces compliance as they do. I think I have roughly over a hundred quads, hex's, planes and cars & trucks. Not one will ever see a remote ID module or the like. My opinion is everyone should just tell them to pound sand. If we would just realize that they could do nothing if we all just ignored them. I believe in reasonable laws, comply with most and have never been charged, accused or arrested in my 78 years. But they are completely out of control these days so they get nothing from me.

Great video on this subject! One of the best ones I've watched! Thank you for putting this out for our community bro!

Very nice presentation JB! Thanks for everything you do!

THANK YOU for bringing up what the community did back in 2020 and prior to get RID changed and explaining everything up to this point. 👍 Many have been trying long before the recent parade of anti-Remote ID videos, and I think perhaps some newer people needed to hear the history. The community has tried long before the Remote ID campaign ongoing now, to do something to affect change. Myself, I was an AMA member for 2 years starting in 2015. I never used an AMA field, but I purchased the membership to support them fighting for me as a hobbyist. It was the "thing to do" to support the hobby. That ended up being a mistake, -- so I did not renew it, but that was my first move toward supporting advocacy. Also, I made videos back in 2018 when the FAA Reauthorization Act was passed and encouraged other reviewers to do so too. Congress's demand for a "remote identification system for drones" was spelled out there -- the exact specifics of it just had been left up to the FAA. To change that, we ALL did the "sign the NPRM thing", and wrote letters! I even got some neighbors and those from my prior community college STEM program involved. Eventually, I bought an FPV-FC founding membership for $75 to keep up the legislative battles and advocacy. And there are tons of others who all followed the same footsteps. We have also tried to do the right thing and fly safely, register (I know, I know, not approved), and just be good ambassadors for the sport. WE have all been trying this entire time. As Remote ID is *basically* here, with actual hardware being approved and put on the market... the idea that FAA is just going to google for "remote id" see all of those... uh, videos... and just say... "OH ok, oops, I guess we lost and we're definitely going to change this now"... is naive. The time for real change at this point is slim -- UTM, RID, etc is coming, and it's OK to examine the reality of what compliance actually means, for those who choose to do so... at the end of the day, if you are a hobby flyer in a field, you will probably be ok.

Joshua, the biggest issue I see is that this system is going to be a HUGE security breach... There are already ways to create 6 or more fake drone signals over any place, like an airport. This is going to be a huge mess and can affect even those who uses Bluetooth ear buds, because of the added noise. So... Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

Thanks JB. Appreciate how you take the time to explain things....

This was a good video. Much appreciated. Especially the message of hope which is the most practical information that I give others too.

Great points Joshua, we pilots still have more in common than difference. It's a shame that laws come from places that have no true understanding of a industry. You're right that it further effects the people who have been doing the right thing to make a living than would ever change the bad actors.

Good point, some Karen could look you up and attack you with your goggles down.. My question is do you need to give ID to see the drone & pilots location/ID. I think that should be mandatory.

Thanks Joshua, great insights and info.

Well freakin' said, JB. Seriously, you posed some very compelling points and gave great examples of each 'sides' point of view. Especially liked when you came full circle with the compliance vs non compliance circumstances. Good on you, man.

You said a mouthful. Very eloquent and to the point, no mis-information. I am 78yo and my flying partner is 73yo. We are fortunate that we have not yet encountered the angry, aggressive person. It has been my pleasure to talk to and educate many folks where we fly. For the record I am a veteran of the war that we don't talk about( in the 60's). We have been flying drones for about 3 years. When the Avata came out we both got one. I am trying to learn to fly Acro. Got 70+hrs in the sim (Liftoff) and I can fly the 💩 out of it in the sim. No carry over to actual flight. My problem however then there is the lack of vision (yeah I've got a spotter) but things can happen rapidly. I currently have 2 drones, an Air 2s and an Avata. Both will or do have RID. I also have a Mini 2, I love it. So you are correct, we are all in this together so watch out for each other and remember you could be someone else's first line of defense. The current killing fields could easily expand to drone pilots, with little provocation

NAILED IT Joshua! You articulated this whole issue extremely well. Just a heads up there is a new RID Module (by BlueMark db20) that won’t get picked up by most off the shelf scanning apps. Also, FAA approved…haven’t heard much on it but might be worth checking out as well. Alien drones just did a video on it. Again, EXCELLENT JOB on this video! 🤟🤟

Thank you for making the video, great info!

Josh vary well said. great sense of humor. your awesome. I'm almost 60 and I love building and flying FPV. vary fun and awesome hobby. And it wouldn't be the same without you.

A good video Josh. Non compliance would appear to be the only tool left to save the hobby but it has to be universal.

Our Local LE is more concerned with folks overstaying their parking spots. If i get my 107 AND i fly for a commercial project, the sure, i’ll comply. Otherwise… i’ll continue to fly where nobody cares/exists in a safe manner…

Thanks Joshua. Great video and advice!

6:20 not to mention that someone walking up to someone (even with a spotter present) introduces unnecessary stress and distraction to the pilot which might result in increased danger for third parties

Great vid, JB. Thorough and well thought out. I'd argue that non-compliance is resistance. If the majority of people do not comply then the FAA have a dilemma, continue ahead and put unjust fines on people for non-compliance which we can play-on publicly. Or they can remove the part of the regulation that is dissuading people from compliance, namely the tracking of the pilot. Your speed limit argument is flawed as we all agree it's unsafe to speed in most cases, this is back-up by evidence that can be proven in court and in public discourse.

Good information. Well said, JB.

Thoughtful words by a great pilot, thanks for the update joshua

Putting a hold on getting my 107 because of all this nonsense, would rather chance it as a 'pirate' as it stands today.

Interfering with the system is illegal under FCC regulations. But it will highlight flaws in the entire remote id system and force its closure

Brilliantly stated Josh! You covered all of the necessary bases there. Thank you for taking the time to explain this!

Oh Joshua you are the best. It’s been years since I’ve been in the air and I am trying to catch up on the new wave of things. Thanks

The whole remote id thing is bullshit for sure. I don't think it's going to effect me where I live but I still hope we can eventually do something about it.

As a female drone enthusiast, the last thing I want is any yoyo with a smart phone knowing exactly where I am. That was when I was in the US. I'm in Canada now and we don't have remote ID here and I hope we never do. But being that Canada often copies the US, it wouldn't surprise me if we get some kind of RI here eventually.

Great video Joshua. Thank you for a a well balanced perspective on the RID issue.

Great video, thanks for the information. Good sir 🙂

Option 2 for protecting yourself: Have your visual observer carry a gun to protect you from bad actors that now have an app to track their victims. Good news is that they will not have to register their gun because as everyone knows, guns are nowhere near as dangerous as a drone.

You’re walking a very fine line Josh. I’d really watch how you present your arguments against the government. Love ya buddy, hope the family is well

THIS! Thank you for creating this video on RID. I appreciate that you went over several different view points. I love the idea of the RID generator. I can see a new device in my field bag in the near future.

Fantastic video my friend! Clear and concise and well said!

AMA giving me some NRA vibes coming from the 2A community

I started this video wondering how to make my long range fixed wing build compliant, but since the consensus seems to be, "fuck the faa" I guess I'll just go with that 😂

This is great information, thank you.

Love your effective analogies!

Truly surprised that the issue hasn't been framed as a threat to "the children" There's a whole group of people who have staked there whole personality on protecting kids from the adrinochrome harvesters. (Wonder what Hunter s Thompson would think about that one) They could definitely be weaponized

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am so very worn out by the whole RID subject right now, I can't even social media. It's to the point of why are we allowing folks to "scare" everyone? Look just the other day, we had a young adult male & his girlfriend try to help our drone when it went down in a field behind our house. He was driving down a dnr road to go for a hike, he pulled over when he saw the drone go down and proceeded to pick it out of a bush and put it up right. He then talked to the GoPro and told us that he was only trying to help, to not arm the kwad. He was AWESOME. The day after, we flew down by the lake where there was very little to no traffic when all of a sudden we had a father and his two young boys and a couple come running over to check out our drones. We did a ride a long and Gardo scored a job at a restaurant in downtown Milwaukee. We gave the couple Rotor Riots information as the husband was all about learning more and we all went on our way. We have never had a negative experience with the public and our drones here in Wisconsin. It's not scary, most people are super excited to learn more. Anyway, great video, thank you so much for being the positive force on this whole subject. Oh and thanks for the additional information on the AMA, I was considering starting my membership up again but I'm no longer second guessing and not renewing. 😉

Lots of good points, finally real information and not clickbait BS, thank you🤙

Thanks for all the info

R-ID is the reason I sold all my drone gear in the Spring. I live in an area with too many Karens and a police force with nothing better to do than bother a pilot who was doing noithing "wrong" or dangerous. DAILY, I was asked by either a Karen or a cop what I was doing. Wasn't worth the headache when R-ID was added in. Still follow JB and a few other drone channels but thats about it. EDIT: I did follow all the old FAA stuff like registering ALL my drone, putting the FAA ID number on ALL my drones, even did the safety thing (not Part 107). So, i flew safe and "legal" other than I rarely used a spotter, unless you count my dog as my spotter.

want to yank stray beard hair so bad

Very well explained, thanks!

Joshua great advice love this video I appreciate your intelligent response and words of wisdom.

A good situational update, but remote ID is just one step of many to come. The end game is getting amateurs out of the airspace. They won't stop until this happens. I and many others have left the hobby for good because of it, so their strategies are working.

I don't think it's going to be as much the RID itself that will be an issue, but all the RID Karen's and Ken's that will cause more issues not only for the legit or non legit pilots but the Karen's&Kens themselves too. There's going to be some lvl of violence against these most annoying members in society.

Thanks Jb 👊🏻

Excellent video! Well said and explained.

Predictions: LEO's will not bother with this on there own time to ensure compliance - laziness will prevail. It will take one Ken or Karen to use their mobile app and then get a LEO to validate/verify followed with a report filed to the FAA. FAA will then issue a massive fine to establish a 'chilling' effect. They don't have to go after everyone. The RID rules will be deemed a success and will encourage RID version 2 where the module will be hardened even further to prevent nuisance swarming/spoofing techniques. Existing RID modules will have to be firmware updated to version 2 for compliance. RID version 1 modules that cannot be updated to comply will become e-waste. The technological warfare will be lost as gov't has unlimited resources to fund regulators and engineers to innovate RID such that the 400 ft ceiling and below airspace is cleared of all activity and can only legally be used by deep corp interests and military. Eventually there will be NO legal way one can fly at all. Much like simply walking down the street - there is multiple misdemeanors occurring since there are so/too many laws that exist. One way out of this hell-hole of over regulation would be that all new laws MUST have a sunset provision. So that at least there is some dim/remote hope/chance that bad laws/rules can expire.

uhmm.. whats remote -id??? I fly my quad one feet away from me.. lol.

From what I read in the rules, there is requirements for what needs to be transmitted, but no requirement stated for how far it must transmit or be received. This way you can still have a module and comply with the rule, however the module won’t broadcast with a huge range.

great video !!!Keep it up we must all unite and stand for whats right

Thank you Joshua, well said. I do hope compliance doesn't lead to more tightening. I hate to see the 8@stards win this one. The control issues of our government are getting worse and worse. This is part of a more systemic problem we have with the Brandon administration.

Great video and well said. 👍 thanks for the info and thoughts

Well said , I completely agree with your approach. Great video. Learnt a lot

Excellent! Thank you!

Bravo Joshua, you finally made your stand and it was brilliant. 🎉hats off sir.

Great video thanks

Thank you!! An excellent presentation. I now know what Remote ID is all about.

Thanks Bardwell, good logic, not so difficult to comply, and definitely not so scared.

Keep pushing back.

Keep up the good work about remote ID

such an awesome video! I hope you get a million views.

thanks for sharing

Great video Joshua, thanks for being a rational voice in the debate. A while ago when they prohibited drone flying in National Parks we saw people taking great drone footage and posting it on their RU-vid channel, and subsequently that very video used in evidence to prosecute them for that breach of the law. Non compliance with RID maybe okay for most guys as you say, but I see it being that guys can't post the videos on RU-vid any more for that very reason unless they comply and show the module in the video.