THIS is why the 250 gram drone threshold means NOTHING 

Actually 250g and up

No one says humans are rational creatures. Far from it.

You said it correctly!

Thanks for the clarification for Canadian rules.

He cares not about stuff that counters what he says. What he says is law. Respect it. /s

Yea I have been flying rc for decades and have hundreds of hours on drones also.....don't have any fcc numbers on my stuff....what are they gonna do throw me in jail ......no they are gonna go do more Important shit. Just stupid.

@@scottykardos BTW the FCC rules apply to RC aircraft also not just drones Skippy. SuAS doesn't mean drone!!!

@@silbay lol you think they don’t know.

@@scottykardos I mean, you guys can keep on f-ing around and find out. The likelihood is that nothing will happen but it's like a seat belt, in a way. I'd rather pay a $5 registration and put an ugly sticker on my drone than risk 3 yrs. in jail and $30K-$250K in fines. But, I mean, you do you.... What can they do, right??

It's a great way for them to learn how to make prison toilet wine.

THIS is a good point. If your Mini 2 or 3 is registered, you’ll be required to load it up with a remote idee transmitter, probably bringing it over 250g anyway. Thanks, I’ll reserve registration of my Mini 2. It’s strictly a toy. Now if I go into business, I’ll get the 107 and register THE HEAVY.

CORRECT.

Little 3d printed clip with my ID on it. Take it off my mini 2 when I dont have any attachments XD

Faa approved flying over people. Just not flying over in large quantities in crowded places. Same as flying over cars it does not specify trucks or busses nor whether they are parked or traveling. One would assume that substaned assembly of people would be a gathering or group defined as 2 or more within a 10ft radius. Not people walking down a sidewalk 10 or more feet apart. What about flying over house unknowingly with 30+ people inside. Where does this BS stop? I myself am restricting all air operations over my land and will be charging all planes helicopters and birds with trespassing. Oh all flying bugs too. Do I charge the neighbors for their bugs trespassing? Air space is everyone's space not to be regulated over a damn toy . I'll keep my toy under 400ft from launch point and away from airports and stadiums and such and FAA can fuck off. Because I don't see the NFL following FAA guidelines for the football that's flying over large groups of people 🙄

I agree😁

And with where I am it's a 3 hour drive one way to the FAA test center. So 6 hours plus fees to fly over remote swamps and woods. It's 2 hours if you call for state police they can't even keep unregistered motor vehicles off roads. Took them 3 months to find a guy that shot 2 state troopers in the woods.

I'm near a busy GA airport, but fly safely and stay outta their way, and nobody cares. The FAA just _had_ to overcomplicate things. I honestly doubt that even 5% of them have a single hour of logged time.

I obey the Regs. as they are written here. Accordingly, my Phantom, has a takeoff weight of less than 250 grams. The landing weight, is considerably higher though. In a 4 foot hover, after takeoff, I snip the string that attaches the large helium balloon. A video of the scale/snip documents the launch. They can go pound sand. I'm a pilot, I can fly thousands of pounds of metal, over a city, at night, with thousands of sleeping people below, with human passengers, and they are going to tell me I'm not qualified to fly my Phantom? The UAV related fines here, are insane. up to 5K for first offence. There was an idiot a few years back, who recklessly flew his commercially registered Eurocopter, which was overdue on several inspections, legally not airworthy, over an assembly of people @ less than 200 feet AGL, while allegedly impaired. (not proven) For all those violations, he got a 1 month suspension of his licence, and a $750 fine. These UAV Regs, are not about safety. They will continue to enact more stringent laws, requiring less and less capable hardware, that will legally require more and more expense. Like Mode C, on a UAV of less than 250 grams or some crap. They want to kill it as a hobby. They will issue exemptions, if they feel like it, like they do for the police. And the fees. They will go up. CBS will be able to afford it, but the hobbyist wont. I'm just happy the people writing these regs, have no imagination. So many stupid regs. Unlawful to exit, or attempt to exit an aircraft in flight, except for making a parachute descent, or not mounting weapons designed, or adapted for use in warfare to a civil aircraft. A Remington semi auto hunting rifle in each wing would not violate the Regs, as written. They can't help themselves. A licencing inspector onve tried to violate someone, for opening uo their canopy, and tossing out a toilet paper roll, and trying to cut it with the prop as many times as altitude allowed, in uncontrolled, sparsely populated airspace/terrain. When he could not find a suitable reg, he tried to make a littering charge stick. It disappears after the first rain. He failed to make anything stick, but succeeded in making a bit of harmless fun, into something miserable. That's what drives them The idea of anybody getting away with having fun, is just unthinkable.

I’ll get my a license for a sub 250g. When the birds get theirs.

@@maphyous228 hella right.

😂🦅🦅🦅

Amen

So, the Mini 3 Pro will automatically transmit Remote ID info straight out of the box, because of the “potential” to be over 250g? This is the first I’ve heard of this.

That is not the case, the city does not have jurisdiction over airspace and therefore could not fine him.

I think CT government workers just have nothing better to do lol

@@redhawkdrone3403i like this argument. I’m eventually going to have an issue with a neighbor or another rando calling the cops saying i tried to attack them or their dog or was looking at someone in their window. It’s crucial to have recording always. I have 1.5 hour of flight time. I’m very new here.

you could lose your drone

Good! 👍👌 I wish you the best of luck in your fight against injustice and over-regulation 👏👏

true that. and with the digital id thingy the sub 250 gram drone WILL be a good thing lol plus its just smaller!

It's just like "registering" your vehicle with the state... gives them automatic jurisdiction over you as an "operator".

@@thisoldboat7393 Ok, well YOU understand it, but most people don't.

That is the way I understand it, however, the flights must not be anything that the FAA would consider to be a Part 107 activity, then it does. So, if you abide by all the other rules, no entity gets any benefit, and you don't use or post the video, then you should be OK. By the way, money doe NOT have to be involved. Even posting a video on RU-vid promotes one's personal business (their esteem or rating or whatever). This has already been indicated by FAA representatives.

@@buddyadkins2432 Yes, we know that, but there's a clear distinction between 'flying for commercial use' and a drone operator flying for a hobby. 'Commercial use' is usually interpreted in the UK to mean as a business for financial gain.

@@NomadicNight In the USA, the FAA defines commercial use as "In the furtherance of a business". In this case furtherance means any benefit, ANY of any kind even charity, even personal. And business is interpreted to be ANY entity whether a formal business or not. Each person has their own "personal business". Think not, ever hear anyone say "stay out of my business". Posting on YT is in the furtherance (benefit) of the poster's business (promoting one's self). Anything other than just flying for FUN and not posting the video is considered a Part 107 activity. We might not think that it is not right, but it is certainly Real.

@@buddyadkins2432 I was only referring to our UK laws, not USA. We have a different flight regulator here, called the CAA, so different rules apply here.

When a drone is at 50+ feet the illusion gets even worse. I put a drone directly over myself visually, and then panned the camera down to find that I was off by considerable distance. Visually anything within about 5 degrees of vertical appeared to be directly overhead.

People get things mixed up, because the Police here in the UK think they're the only ones who know the law, even when they don't, or misquote it, and so there's confusion from them, as well as the general confusion regarding drones.

Yeah I think you’re right. I watch a lot of RU-vid videos that do come out of Europe and then it even mention that they’re flying over people. That’s why I thought it was relaxed in the states. After I wrote that I went right to the FAA laws, and there it was, no flying over people less you have a category one drone which is only technically available in Japan.

I really think they should widen the regulations based on weight class. If I'm gonna get bonked in the head by a drone then I'd damn sure rather it be a Mini 3 (yay, free drone!) than say an Inspire or a Matrice. 🤣

Correct

It's only $5 to register, then you can fly over 250 under recreational

Sure. Once you are licensed.....pretty big hurdle for most people. Not to mention the extreme distaste most people have for 'registering' anything.

Nah, it's not that bad. Hop in the drone pool... The water is fine!

Like politicians, they’ve made that statement and now can’t back away from it.

Unless you are a Part 107. Then it has to have Remote ID. How my

It's ridiculous to create legislation when the technology for remote id doesn't even exist. These laws are insane!

@@glenwhatley7366 One the one hand, it sounds ridiculous the way you worded it. On the other hand, Bluetooth dongles and GPS receivers aren't exactly exotic tech. Grab a Bluetooth TTL dongle from Sparkfun for $3, and a GPS from the same site, plug them together and there ya go. Hardly anyone is going to snap those two things together and put them on a drone until after the law is passed. I also appreciate that the rule leaves open other ways to comply - you can do it any way that makes sense for your application, provided the FAA agrees that it meets the requirements. Vs requiring everyone to buy and use one specific product.

The 250 grams and part 107 thing are a scam to stop people with learning disabilities to pass the test and make an honest living. Basically it is another tax system that puts more money in the usual peoples pockets. Sad world we live in.

If your worry is about retrofitting a remote-ID hardware module, then sure, sub-250 recreational fliers will be clear. If your worry is about privacy, and the information sharing, I suspect many existing drones will be complying via firmware updates, which will have them sending out Remote-ID data packets all the time, giving away the remote pilot's location, registered or not, regardless of weight.

@@ae1582 yes exactly you should always upgrade to the latest and greatest privacy killer update lol 😂! I wish you could just fly with the default software like in the old days. Can’t stand the constant forced updates

@@ae1582 yes exactly you should always upgrade to the latest and greatest privacy killer update lol 😂! I wish you could just fly with the default software like in the old days. Can’t stand the constant forced updates !

Yes, I am strongly against the FAA's proposed implementation of Remote ID for those reasons and others. For recreational flyers who don't want to deal with any of that, and care about staying legal or choosing a new drone that doesn't have it installed, under 250g is about to become a huge deal in roughly a year from now. It remains to be seen if DJI or other companies will force FAA-compliant Remote ID via firmware update on their sub-250g drones or not. I don't think they will, but then again, they have AeroScope as it is... Either way, there will be plenty of sub-250g manufacturers who will have zero FAA-Remote ID implementations to pick from.

You're smart to educate yourself thoroughly before flying it. 🇨🇦👍

Nobody is going to weigh your drone. Government bodies are predators and you should never obey or be obvious.

@@TTime685 Huh? Why would I buy something that doesn't have the feature set I want just because it's my first drone? Maybe if I was 10 it'd be a concern but I'm not and my Mini 3 is still working great and zero crashes so far. Thanks. 👍

😂 you def paying attention Ty 😂😂

@@TTime685 not me man...regardless of where you stood on the virus...watching how the government moved over the last 3 years shows me exactly what they would do if the shit really hits the fan. Yall can comply. I'm going to do what I always have. Enjoy my hobby responsibly. Stay away from people. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

They already have billions. It's more about restricting our ability to use high altitude surveillance, but yes, nobody asked them to do anything about drones because there's zero need to regulate the hobby.

You're very lucky.

I’m from Placerville. Ponderosa 1990.

True. The cool people to asshole quotient is a skew in this country. 🤓

If you go to my channel looking for the one of the Library it’s called safety day I think. The property at the county had me do a topographical survey on coincidentally is the same property from the video on my channel called housefire

@@KenHeron My county is really nice. It’s Webster county Kentucky, you probably know it. It’s the Walmart dead zone in between Madisonville and Henderson. Come to think of it, I think the reason why my county is so good is because we don’t have a Walmart.

@@trapperjohn6089 What does a local government pay for a topo map?

They did mention it; said something about if they have a flyaway and "if some well intentioned" person wanted to return the drone they found, etc.

@@sollith7482 "outside of that"

@@GoatZilla Indeed, placing a phone number on free flight and RC models was standard practice years ago, way before this silly registration system was introduced.

Not benefit of registering. The dude who said “just register everything” is a moron, a government bootlicker.

It’s a big deal in the USA also with Remote ID around the corner. A few of these guys have been saying sub 250 is no big deal and cannot back away from that statement.

Thanks!

What makes people fly safer?

Could you please point me in the direction of doing this myself? I’m technologically (software and hardware) capable, yet I’ve been completely unable to find any resources on how this might be done. I’m getting a mini 3 pro in the next few days, but only if I know I can ensure that remote id isn’t forced on me.

Oh yeah!

Yes in the Uk CAA rules allow us to fly drones less than 250g over people (not crowds of people) and in urban areas close to buildings with no restriction except restricted airspace such as prisons/airports etc. All you need is a flyer ID marked marked on the drone which requires a fee and passing a simple quiz on the law relating to drones. However, the caveat is that the operator is required to always minimise risks to people and property so you can still be found guilty of flying recklessly if you don’t take account of conditions and modify your flying accordingly.

I was thinking the same thing, but they had just previously mentioned something about the FAA, so I thought it was clear in retrospect. Good call out though, in case anyone in another country missed it.

I was thinking that in the UK (and Europe?) 250g was allowed to fly over people. We live in a global information space these days and people seem prone to confusing US and UK laws as many videos, if you do not watch content from that channel often, does not always make clear the country its content refers to. Social media is usually a very unreliable source for facts as opinion is often sold as fact without any reference to where rules and regulations can be found. People like Ken are in short supply as many others will tell you things that are just going to get you in trouble

In Australia a hobby flier does not have to be registered, or at a CASA approved field, to use a sub 250g aircraft. They must maintain LOS, & stay (horizontally) 30m away from people, cars, & buildings.

Exactly. Education is key: remotepilot101.com/

Lol point exactly

I'm curious what you're referring to exactly. Where is the misinformation?

You bet.

It seems like if you don't need to register, they still push you and deceive you so you'll pay for the class and be on your way to registering. That's what I keep finding.

the dumb thing abt remote id is that any and every drone will need it, even sub 250's.

LOL Frankly

Mass non-compliance is the only way.

@@Zachary77 LOL

Welcome aboard!

You bet.

I'm in the US.

@@KenHeron lol same

I'm retired. Driving for me is a hobby. Nice to know that I don't have to license my car, stop at red lights, etc. Maybe someone will get hurt as a result, but that's ok because I'm just doing my hobby.

@@marcmcreynolds2827 a drone that is for hobyist weigs under a kilo, a car weigs over 1000 kilo.

"a drone that is for hobyist weigs (weighs) under a kilo, a car weigs (weighs) over 1000 kilo" How true, but the subject is whether or not public risk stops mattering just because someone is doing something for fun instead of profit. BTW during my time in the aircraft engineering business, the "bird test" was done at not a lot more than a kilo, vs 1000. It's notable that in public comments during the FAA rulmaking process, some aircraft companies wanted the "toy" limit set at 0 g. 250 g was the FAA striking a balance between various interests. Airspace traffic below 400 ft is about to look a whole lot different than it has for the past hundred-plus years, and regulators are preparing for that. Sure, I wish I could just keep doing what I've always done, but like it or not the world is changing.

@@marcmcreynolds2827 You Have Not made a point Yet for Public Safety, So Babble is no reason for Abuse of Congress To regulate For Proffit's of Spy Materials needed To Spy on USA People with their Own Devices, I will not pay, To Pay for People to Police That Wich Has no Public Safety in mind, But only has intent to Regulate it into Confiscations. Like I said its not a Gun and Has No intent for Abuse to the Public for Safety, No Terrorist is Gunna Reister a Drone to Get Caught intentionally for Abusing its intent. The US Forest Sirvice no longer Takes Care of the Forest, it Polices it. Fences The Public off From it.

@@marcmcreynolds2827 The risk for 2tonne car is orders of magnitude higher than a sub 250gram RPAS. It is a bad analogy. By that logic baseball, kite flying, golf, playing catch, fresbee, etc should all be band. These activities also extend into the lower airspace.

So remote id for us but not them!

Hey Randall, thanks for stalking! 🤓👍

Ha I live it Connecticut lol this is why I don’t post much drone stuff bc Connecticut if full of Karens

Thank you! Will do!

Exactly, in EU sub 250 needs only that operator is registered and then operator number is put on a drone. You can fly above cars, people(not crowds) etc.

@@qb4hkm UK....You do not need to register if the drone or model aircraft you'll fly is one of the following: a toy below 250g or in C0 class. C0 class with no camera, whether it's a toy or not. below 250g with no camera and no class mark, whether it's a toy or not.

Cities don't have authority over airspace BUT more and more are passing ordinances that prohibit launching/landing on city property, essentially outlawing drones entirely.

@@garymathe9863 The same wokesters want electri air taxies and drone delivery. Go figure

Yeah, there's a difference in regulations when you are flying with a sub 250 gram drone in Europe or the USA. But Ken is talking about the FAA (USA) rules.

@@vanvugtdronecinematography7769 Agreed. Would still be better for Ken to put up "FAA" or "US" in the title for many first flyers. 😉

I would have thought that the FAA logo in the thumbnail would have covered that. 🤓👍

This is FAA…..

@@KenHeron For me it's absolutely fine but I know that when searching, it will be helpful to have it as text too. By the way, I love your videos all around drones. Many greetings to Kentucky, where I have yet to travel too. Are all people as nice and funny as you there? 🤗👍

there is no separation distance with less than 250g in the uk, as long as you're not flying it like a dick it's not a problem

Out of curiosity what’s the upside of registering sub 250g?

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense