Removing the rudder post

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In this video my mate Jeff and I get the rudder post out of the steel trawler. This involves using a lot of heat, some penetrating oil and a lot of sledge hammer action. I also remove the bottom bearing to make it easier to slide out. To do this I jack the rudder post up enough to get at the bearing before driving it back down.
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@volvogt21 5 лет назад

15 minutes to watch the video and 30 to read all the comments. Lots of great info and ideas. Awesome stuff Stu.

@rayg9069 5 лет назад

Same here, the nice thing is 100% of the comments are people trying to help and offering good suggestions, well done chaps and chapsess's.

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Yes, I've been really pleased to read all the great advice coming through. :)

@trevorhall9524 5 лет назад

one video a week is not enough, enjoying this series very much.

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Will try to do more. :)

@robinhilliard 5 лет назад

You deserve some sort of boat restoration Purple Heart medal for the persistence you've shown with that rudder post :-)

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Got there in the end!

@pimpshack81 5 лет назад

Ya know... I’ll probably never own a boat of that magnitude but man I love learning new things and the techniques you use to get jobs done .. great job Stu 👍👍

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

Yeah, I dont think I have the courage to take on a steel boat like that lol

@johndoe-zk1yu 5 лет назад

@@BornAgainBoating I like a problem being solved.

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

Yeah, it's cool to watch a something being completed, this week we are doing a time lapse of a triple engine repower! You might like it

@pimpshack81 5 лет назад

Born Again Boating just subscribed 👍👍

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

@@pimpshack81 awesome thank you so much! Working on the repower video now :) it will be up on Tuesday, hope you like it!

@KoonceTodd 5 лет назад

Really enjoying this series so far. Your videos really show what a determined individual can do with some good life skills and some tools. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.

@davidwoods4366 5 лет назад

been at sea since I was 15 I was 64 yesterday. You are doing a great job so far. Keep up the good work

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Happy birthday for yesterday David!

@tonypeters8298 5 лет назад

When nothing seems to be going to plan, but all of a sudden, success and pure elation! Spurs us on to keep succeeding. Love ya work, thanks.

@Bluehealer100 5 лет назад

I am from Kentucky and all we work on here are tractors and farm equipment I absolutely love your videos KEEP THEM COMING!!!!!!

@Bluehealer100 5 лет назад

Thats in the United States so you know!!!!!

@Jet-Tim 4 года назад

You do not talk to much, I would rather watch your videos than watch the news. 👍

@DangarMarine 4 года назад

Thanks mate. :)

@Northernstar9370 5 лет назад

Excellent work Stu! This is hands down one of the top 5 channels on RU-vid for the fact you don't claim to know everything. It's like working with a friend on a project. You get to a problem you put your heads together, you with your subscribers. You figure out how to do the job without a bankroll and a truckload of expensive proprietary tools. I ordered my shirt from you, cool to know I'm helping invest a few dollors into your projects! Cheers Mate!

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Thanks Mick. I do love working with all you guys to get these problems solved. The internet certainly makes things easier these days. :)

@garystetler4358 5 лет назад

You're KILLIN me with the piano overlay......

@centermid7mb 5 лет назад

Coming from a guy who is probably doing well to change a flat tire I find all of this quite fascinating. I did not grow up around any of this kind of work and have no background in it and it is very entertaining video. The amount and depth of knowledge that is available from the comments is remarkable to say the least. Keep it up!

@mitchsixx1896 Год назад

Love your no nonsense approach. On an old and quite rusty "project" of any kind you gotta think outside the box. Most people aren't capable or willing to go the extra mile. Remember, attention to detail. Whether you keep her, or sell her, it's well worth the time and patients to do it right. It's all a learning process. Your videos are, by far the best marine and boat repair/restoration videos. I like the commentary. It tells me your thinking process. Thank you for your efforts mate!! Definitely, a fan.

@syfyrytr1652 5 лет назад

LOL So nostalgic. I got a wooden boat in 1990 that was thirty years old. Just watching you go through the process of addressing a problem and keeping at it until you find success was in some macabre way gratifying. I recall so many projects that had a similar arc of progression., engine removal and replacement, rudder r&r, plank mending, keel filling. etc. etc. Thanks for the vids. Keep on keeping on mate. The only justification for any of this is the sail to work ratio. As long as a fellow spends more time on the water than working on the boat it is worth it. I oughta' get out to the vintage fiberglass cabin cruiser in my driveway and go to the lake.

@redsky8509 5 лет назад

I am really pleased it is out. I am very much enjoying this series.

@Fireship1 5 лет назад

Perseverance pays off! I think this will most likely be the hardest job you’ll come up against on this boat. Great work Stu!

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

I hope so Jack! Going to tackle the prop shaft this week...

@zetacon4 5 лет назад

I was so relieved when I watched that rudder shaft fall free of the hull. You are to be congratulated. What a save and you did a brilliant job of it. Let's hope this is the last major stuck part you encounter refurbishing your boat. Thanks are looking up now. I am now addicted to your great videos. Thank you so much for sharing.

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Thanks mate. It was a great feeling when it finally came out!

@ionracer24 5 лет назад

Me too!!

@markolav7017 5 лет назад

well said mate

@bikemessenger7 5 лет назад

yeah once the boat shifted on its stands I was super afraid it was going to fall and when jeff just went running up the ladder while you were under the boat I was yelling "NOOOOO!". congratulations on getting that unstuck.

@deathcar 5 лет назад

"We must get the rudder post out"...now available on iTunes.

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Probably in the ring tones seciton. ;)

@matthewlonghurst2503 5 лет назад

i like every video before it start because i know it will be amazing, and thanks you have inspired me to buy a boat and make a channel. keep up the good work.

@sailor4life784 5 лет назад

CONGRATULATION ... ...NICE IDEA WITH THE PRESSURE SLEVE WITH PENETRATING OIL .....ILL REMEMBER THAT

@davecassidy 5 лет назад

Love the coopers bottle on the Land Rover flat fender .

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Can't believe I left it out in the sun. :(

@DSjockey 5 лет назад

One of those jobs that turned out to be more work than it seemed it should be, congratulations

@lkytdsvc 5 лет назад

I certainly give you full marks for doing a job out of your comfort zone. I restore WW2 ex army tanks and everything on these are rusted and hard to remove but all the principals and methods are the same. Well done.

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

That sounds like an really interesting project!

@johnmay6090 5 лет назад

Another great vid. Thanks Stu.

@jundelacruz3633 4 года назад

When the boat moved i was whoohhh, stop... Its like watching all genres of movies so entertaining and informative.

@paulfreeman5340 5 лет назад

Victory! Love your perseverance Stu

@Phillv8 5 лет назад

Really enjoying watching these videos! I do these sorts of things all the time so it's great to get new ideas!

@PittwaterMowing 5 лет назад

Thanks for taking us along Stu Im enjoying the rebuild

@brad10dd 5 лет назад

Great vid Stu. nothing like the feeling of a victory such as that . Enjoying this segment immensely Keep them coming.

@Leo_Wolf_the_engineer 5 лет назад

I really like how honest you about what you do and why plus I like how much you explain 👍

@SomeGuyInSandy 5 лет назад

Congrats on getting the rudder post out! That was a big hold up for you, now it's out of the way. Cheers!

@fireantsarestrange 5 лет назад

Cool it came out the bottom. All the rudder post replacements and or brand new ones that Ive seen all went in or out through the bottom. Good thing you didn't have to cut it out.

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Yeah, I'm glad I didn't have to cut it out too. :)

@charlieaustin2818 5 лет назад

Looking forward to your next installment

@terrypen 5 лет назад

That bearing material looks like Phenolic type material that we used on Huey helicopters! But then again, I'm a Huey mechanic turned computer mechanic!

@chrisraven6428 5 лет назад

Love the series. Keep up the good work

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

It's cool to see someone working on a giant steel boat!

@billb2176 5 лет назад

Great result after epic persistence, glad you made some good props!!!!

@garyscullion8832 5 лет назад

I think your making a bunch of great videos , I feel for you as you work on tough challenges like the rudder post . Your doing a great job , thank you for all the tips . Tight lines

@robertcarey9121 5 лет назад

Whew finally get the rudder shaft out and you won the battle!! Now the easy part will be install new one I hope. Keep up good work!!

@63256325N 5 лет назад

Success! Gotta love it when a plan comes together. 😁 Thanks for the video.

@jbangun1682 5 лет назад

That was so satisfying to watch when it finally moved! And we discovered Stu's other talent ... singing? LOL.

@drjanecox 5 лет назад

Fabulous vids - thanks for making them!

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Glad you like them. :)

@philcarkagis2351 5 лет назад

Great work again Stu. Entertaining, informative and just bloody good to watch. Still appreciate seeing the classy Landy in the background.

@daredevil7442AUTOMOTIVE 5 лет назад

Great job! Hope the rest of the work goes smoother!

@AndrewVee08 5 лет назад

Since it's a steel boat get a mag base for an indicator to hold the cam to free up your other hand love watching from Detroit mi great video series

@46danz 5 лет назад

Hahaha..you can tell by your intro face what kind of day you’ve had.loving the videos.

@MaxTennant 5 лет назад

I'm totally hooked. Been thinking about your rudder post all week! Ops, I just realised that sounds filthy!

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

LOL. :)

@tamaralee4108 5 лет назад

Many work boats use steel rudder stocks with stainless shaft liners installed on the stock where the bearings locate. But for your shaft probably all stainless is simpler. There is a company named Thordon, who make non metallic tail shaft and rudder stock bearings that work using the ambient seawater as lubricant. They also provide galvanic isolation. Thordon would work well for your installation, if a stainless rudder stock is used. If you go with mild steel, then you need to fill the rudder tube with grease to keep the rudder stock from corroding. That used to be the usual approach, with a seal to keep the grease in, but environmental considerations have made the water lubricated arrangement more common. Greg

@mbkmmodels9406 5 лет назад

Good videos I am enjoying watching this.

@garybarker9139 5 лет назад

The material consists of canvas and varnish molded as a bearing. Used mainly on military applications.

@Redmenace96 4 года назад

O. I'm buying a T-shirt. Black, Dangar Marine. Pirate gear.

@michaelSkop 5 лет назад

Great work stu. I have been a viewer for a while now, but this series has actually made me turn on your notifications so that I don't miss a thing! Good stuff. Keep it up

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

Right! As soon as he bought the steel boat I was like, well this is going to get interesting lol

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Thanks mate, glad you've been enjoying the series. :)

@alzeNL 5 лет назад

10:35 - that kinda feeling the morning after having a curry and too much Guinness, but in boat form.

@markpoepiloeri8511 5 лет назад

Great video I am really curious every time to the next one

@Scalihoo 5 лет назад

These keep getting more entertaining &...... educational

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

They sure are, we dont even touch steel boats like that where I live! So we never see anything like this!

@11bayrat 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing.cant wait to see how it go’s back together!keeping it all SS seem to be a good thing.

@wagarcarey 5 лет назад

They used to make marine bearings out of Iron Wood. It is a wood that when worked will emit an oil. There is most likely bearing material now that will work better.

@dadtube1936 5 лет назад

Love the rudder post song!

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

It's too funny lol

@jonoedwards4195 5 лет назад

@@BornAgainBoating AhahaaAA!

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

I figured a micro musical was better than miming. :)

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

@@DangarMarine lol well the performance was right on key! Hahha

@bknut1676 5 лет назад

Maybe you should have started with the song, saved yourself a ton of work!

@jackrosen1740 5 лет назад

Great to see you got it out! I’ve had a fair bit of experience with rust and stuck parts. Rust sucks. Hope you have more luck with this boat!

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

Especially with the metal! All he needs is some serious salt corrosion and it gets to be even more fun!

@ramblerebel1 5 лет назад

Really glad you were able to remove the rudder post, well done. I would replace the rudder post with stainless and as you said insulated it when you reinstall it. Keep up the great work. Cheers Jerome

@bgfeet 5 лет назад

Good stuff on getting the rudder post out. as for the crane, yes you will be stoked if you can keep it level, i used to be a hi-ab operator and being on the slightest slopes can make turning cranes really hard especially with heavier loads.

@latitudeash 5 лет назад

I will have to get one of those welding box's for my sister, so she has an emergency finger nail fixer to hand. You did say it will fit her hand bag...😂😆. Ps - you keep dropping gems comments like that...loving the dry jokes 👍🏼

@indianoladave 5 лет назад

awesome show

@bobkay5496 5 лет назад

Hi Stu the bushing looks like it is ferrobestos material used in boats for prop shaft bearings. This material is made from asbestos

@Blackford86 5 лет назад

Boatyard noise I love it all,,,good job 👍👍

@mrmidnight32 5 лет назад

Congrats man! That rod had me stressed for the last month wondering if it would ever come out! Also when you lifted the hull I thought you were a goner 🥺

@southjerseysound7340 5 лет назад

If you're going to reuse the rudder you'll have to go stainless. But the alloy you choose for the shaft is important. My cousins yard uses Aquatech for propeller shafts and a post like this. Please take a look at my other post as I added a link there that'll really help but I posted separately because sometimes Google flags them as spam. If you can ask around as you might find a bent propshaft to use for a rudder post ;-)

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

Prop shaft for the rudder post! :/ good idea!

@southjerseysound7340 5 лет назад

@@BornAgainBoating the material is expensive. So we hang onto the bent ones just for projects like this. We'll usually get 1-2 jobs a year where some drunk idiot parks on the jetty or rocks ;-) If he was in the States I'd probably have a shaft he could use for the post. Even a mangled one will straighten out enough for this, or have enough that's still straight above the cutlass bearing. We do have some straightened and reused but insurance jobs and ones that run at a high speed usually get replaced.

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

@@southjerseysound7340 sweet! Where do you work? We dont work on anything big like this. The place I work doesn't have a travel lift so we mainly only work on outboards. Boats under 42' cause that's the biggest we can lift. I've got a video this week of repowering a triple engine 36' yellowfin!

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Great idea, I'll ask down at the marina where the boat first came out of the water.

@TimsWorkshopTJY 5 лет назад

If available that's probably a quick solution for Stu since he's handy at welding

@andrewdavies4604 5 лет назад

Outstanding, I'll put my hands up and say, I was completely wrong. Down she came. Good work.

@jeffleach8906 5 лет назад

Nice choice of beer! 😎

@sollasollew3208 5 лет назад

Well done

@jamesmanley6721 5 лет назад

dont ya love hearing the rudder post hit the ground. good solutions! I had a backhoe that had fiberglass bushings with no grease fitting and i loved it. the bushings were SUPER CHEAP.

@brianhitchins6600 5 лет назад

Another great educational vid Stu. Well done in removing the shaft . I think you deserve to sit down and enjoy a 6 pack of coopers vintage. It doesn’t have the aftertaste of acetone like a pale ale.

@jonoedwards4195 5 лет назад

Pale Ale RULES! And Acetone, Do tell Us what it Tastes Like You Lying FREAK?

@MegaBait1616 5 лет назад

great video again.........

@86chanko 5 лет назад

I live no where near water in the Midwest. Why am I addicted to this

@johnj8686 5 лет назад

some of the biggest lakes in the world are in the midwest where i am lol

@farny5557 5 лет назад

I live at the furthest point from the sea in Britain and I too am addicted to these vids mad isn't it

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

Lol because it's awesome! I can from Illinois but now I live in the keys! Needless to say, won't be moving back to the midwest which is nowhere near water lol Sweet channel I gave you another sub! My channel is a lot smaller than that but we all start somewhere right!?

@johnj8686 5 лет назад

@@BornAgainBoating ever been to lake michigan?

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

@@johnj8686 yes! I have but not very many times. I was in the middle of the state and spent more time on the lakes and rivers there

@iherok 5 лет назад

Nice job

@zachalifrank 4 года назад

Bravo Stu

@reeperseyez 5 лет назад

i like your show, thank your for you knowledge!

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Thanks mate. :)

@sargemarine3709 5 лет назад

Just bought a 98 Yamaha 115. runs ok, been in fresh water only, and am getting after it for my use. Rebuilding carb. checking heads ect. Alot of the things you have taught me, actually everything you have taught me, steering cable really tough to turn, everything. Thx

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

You know that steering might not be in the cable but could be in the swivel tube on the engine bracket! That would be really nice and a quick fix :)

@dustyfarmer 5 лет назад

If it's one of the saltwater series two I can tell you about getting a 600RPM low idle that's as smooth as silk that'll troll all day without oiling up.

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

@@dustyfarmer you are trolling at 600 RPMs! You must be trolling on a river with current! What do you do, just tighten the throttle plates?

@colinfirst1689 5 лет назад

great vid thanks

@deanfulford69 5 лет назад

Nice work stu👌

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Thanks Dean!

@dubster2683 5 лет назад

Never heard the Ferobestos word for a long time, used to fit them on A frames of twin screws of ships n subs, have about 4 fire hoses on them to simulate thembeing in the water, a chain block and with a scale attached to it, to see how much strain it took to get the props turning. Old school stuff. Your doing a grand job Stu, mild steel or stainless new shaft, ally bronze perhaps. Hope its cooler down your way than up in qld just now. Cheers Malc

@AW-Services 5 лет назад

Great video and nice to see the clear thought process and theroy of work. With the rudder tube I'd personally tap and fit some grease nipples to maintain the rudder post with lubricant

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Fortunately it already has a grease nipple installed between the two bearings.

@shanemoore8025 5 лет назад

Another cool video! Glad you got that rudder post out. My vote is for stainless steel.

@steveott1884 5 лет назад

At least your getting lots of new tools!

@mallow173 5 лет назад

Tim posted a link to your music! Holy crap man...you're gifted! Lot of elbow grease into that venture but certainly nice to see it come out. That holy trinity must have helped??!

@markolav7017 5 лет назад

Hooorrray !! Good stuff Stuey. I knew you would get that bastard out sooner rather than later ...I am so happy for you and it's now 2pm Sunday so I am going to celebrate with a beer or ten , Great positive vid mate. Onwards and upwards... Cheers :)

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Thanks Mark, I'm glad it is out now. I hope the prop shaft is a lot easier! :)

@normanboyes4983 5 лет назад

What an epic episode. Roger Dale nailed it in these comments about the bearing material. If your boat had cable operated steering the problem would never have progressed to be so bad. But as evidenced by your bottle jack - hydraulics develop a lot of power and overcame the resistance created by the bearing being clamped onto the rudder shaft as corrosion took hold. How about trawling scrapyards boatyards for a reclaimed rudder shaft?

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Yes, finding a reclaimed shaft would be aweseome.

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

It's out! Awesome! I love the camo truck in the back, that's sweet! I used to have a camo 1985 F150 but that was before I was making videos. I wish I had a video of it :( I think your right about keeping the shaft stainless steel! I'm just happy you got it out lol

@dustyfarmer 5 лет назад

It's an ex Australian Army 110 Land Rover, they sold plenty a while back at public auction including 6x6 Land Rover Perentie's & 6x6 Mack trucks & Mercedes Benz Unimogs, all are painted in Auscam but I did see a few in desert tan which must have been middle east returnee's.

@BornAgainBoating 5 лет назад

@@dustyfarmer pretty sweet! Now transporting one to the US, maybe a little tricky!

@gordongalligan3153 5 лет назад

Well done! Good on ya', mate! Your determination and "stick-to-it-ivness" is inspiring! As a senior citizen, I'll never have to take on such a serious, intense problem, but it sure makes any household repair matter seem easily accomplished. "Crack-on!"

@markolav7017 5 лет назад

I agree Gordon 100% Cheers mate

@gregorythomas333 5 лет назад

Excellent getting the rudder post out! Yay! I would go with Stainless Steel low carbon 304 since it should be be safe to use unlike the 316 kind...but it's your call :)

@40cleco 5 лет назад

Looks like a phenolic bushing that came out. A simple Delron plastic bushing would work as a replacement...easy to find and have machine shop make one to fit your tube. Good Luck

@notj5712 5 лет назад

Ran into the same problem with a rubber bushing in a steel sleeve. Burned/melted the bushing out with an acetylene torch.

@geraldswain3259 5 лет назад

Can't be beaten ..Big HAMMER and loads of heat !😊😊😊

@tjcollins9318 5 лет назад

the whole unit stainless steal. It will cost but you will never have to mess with it again.

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

I agree, my only thought is that a mild steel one lasted 30 years which is probably longer than the boat will anyway. I'll check the price difference.

@jonathans444 5 лет назад

Another awesome video hopefully my RU-vid can be like yours one day! That thing needs a bottom job tho😂

@mattamner8895 5 лет назад

Hello, I think that that bearing material is ORKOT, I work for a company that machines this material into bearings / liners that are used on submarines/ ships etc, it is a marine bearing material that is designed to swell up a little when submerged. It is even used to line torpedo tubes. Very easy to machine but I think the size it’s cut to has to take into consideration it swelling in order for it to function properly.

@mattamner8895 5 лет назад

I’ve just done some research, ORKOT is actually designed not to swell up!!

@matthewmillar3804 5 лет назад

Wait, so the only think keeping a 40mm steel plug from falling out and sinking your boat was that fibrous bearing material and the actual steering mechanics? Oh, and I guess the rudder and bottom bracket. Awesome that that's done! I'm looking forward to seeing how this project continues on. Keep these videos coming! It's really cool to see that you're into music. The cinematography kind of took me by surprise!

@DangarMarine 5 лет назад

Yeah, that little 20mm thick gudgeon plate at the bottom might help keep it in place. ;) I do love music, one of my main hobbies outside of boating.

@matthewmillar3804 5 лет назад

@@DangarMarine Very cool. How about a quick off topic video about your music? May I ask your day job? Is it repairing boats?

@mongomay1 5 лет назад

I think like in my sailboat that the water will only go as high as the water surrounding the boat, since the mechanic space is higher than the surrounding water level, it won't flood.

@motormadness9975 5 лет назад

@@matthewmillar3804 soundscloud.com/dangarstu

@paulstinson7505 5 лет назад

Its weird, but seeing that metal rod go through the boat.....exciting

@davidbuck6976 5 лет назад

I would not use any more stainless steel. Just use a High Density nylon insulator between the new post flange and and the stainless steel rudder. Also add zinc anode to a wider rudder post flange above the rudder. Note that the rudder post shaft may yet need to be replaced and will need realignment in any case. Inexpensive, long lasting and easy is the best way.

@mrfrog3350 5 лет назад

Glad you got that shaft out Stu. I guess you are going to use sacrificial anodes. Seeing as you are a saltwater boater, you should install zinc or aluminum anodes to prevent galvanic corrosion on the engine and underwater parts of your boat. Stainless is nice for your steering, but expensive. But we all know that boat stands for Bust Out Another Thousand;-)Thanks for posting.