Thank you for showing this, it is very important for someone to see as the rapid charger is an expensive optional extra for the Zoe, so if someone is wondering if it is worth paying for it instead of just the AC which comes as standard. This is not the sort of thing that you can do on a normal test drive so it is hard for someone to see.
Just compared this with your e-up charge. As slow as each other, BUT the Zoe has almost double the battery. I think even e-up will still be faster that using AC
Get free charging with on.to electric car subscription, including rapid chargers. Although, £10 for a full charge is cheaper than £50 for a full tank of petrol/diesel
Thanks for a good video! What the ZOE lacks in peak charging speed it seems to partly make up for by sustaining a decent charging speed for longer. I think most people prefer to stop and charge as few times as possible, only us EV-enthusiasts make sure to only charge at peak power. In an ICE car for example I would usually stop once for 30 minutes to an hour during longer journeys, never shorter than that. And charging sessions upwards of an hour or so is where the ZOE excels, it even beats some cars like the new Peugeot 208 that are rated at 100kw peak at a certain point, in kWh added.
Hey Chris, there are several things you can try next time you're filming charger displays with reflective surfaces. First one and simplest is a polarising filter over the lens to cut down the reflection completely. Those are not cheap though, especially for large diameter lenses. Second thing is you can try and film the display from farther away with a longer focal distance lens. This way the reflections won't be so intrusive. You can also make yourself a gobo out of styrofoam or something similar and then paint it matt black. You then cut a hole in the middle of the gobo the size of your lens and stick the gobo over the lens. It has to be a fairly large gobo, say 40x60cm to cover the charger display effectively. Then you set up the camera in such a way that the gobo over the lens hides away everything behind the camera (only the lens is sticking out of the gobo). You can experiment with the focal length and shooting distance to the display to get optimal coverage with the gobo, but the rule of thumb is the larger the gobo, the better. Hope this helps!
Great job! I've been looking for exactly this information for a while, most journalist reviews just state the figure from the launch briefing or official website (usually getting mixed up with units). I just made a crude Matlab/Simulink simulation model to work out the optimal speed/charge strategy for long journeys with/without DC charging option, your data will greatly refine my charging model. My current rough guess was : - 0-80% : 50kW - 80-90% : 20kW - 90-100% : 5kW So my model was artificially biased towards stopping the charge at exactly 80%, I can't wait to see the result with a more realistic charging curve. How hot was it when you did your test? By the way : I'm thinking of doing a Video on my channel about my little work, something like "How fast can a Zoé travel 1000km". Are you OK if I use your data, I'll credit you of course.
2:25 The Renault ZOE has a very poor AC charging efficiency at low amps (in this case 10A) due to the "Cameleon Charger", which uses the motor to charge to battery. The charging efficiency of this system is at around 70-75%, only ... at 10A of the normal houselhold plug. Input is 2,3kW, but the battery only sees approx. 1,8kW. That´s why it will take more than a whole day to charge the Zoe with the emergency charger.
@@BatteryLife www.goingelectric.de/wiki/Renault-ZOE/ pushevs.com/2016/12/17/renault-zoe-charging-time-efficiency/ ... then the battery saw even less than 1,5kW! That´s bad ... that´s very bad.
@@BatteryLife agreed. On my my Renault official granny charger it takes 1.8 kWh from the socket but only delivers 1.3 DC to the battery. I bought a variable amp granny charger. If I set it to 11 amps, it takes 2.3 kWh from the socket and delivers 1.8 kWh to the battery. This is on a Q90 and checked using CanZE. Love your ZE50 vids, I pick up mine on Friday with CCS charging.
Hello, Which cars give permission for changing battery? What if I bought 2014 Renault zoe, can I change battery to 2017 version or 2025 version :) of battery?
Tecnically possible. I Bought a 2015 Zoe with 22kWh Battery, and got an Upgrade to the 41 kWh Battery in 2019. IMHO there where 190 upgrade kits availible for Germany. I Don´t know if the 52 kWh Battery will fit.
@@willelektroauto2658 As far as i know they are all the same concerning the size. Imho in a few years there will be workshops that take care of old batteries and can equip old EV´s with (re)new(ed) and larger batteries.
