As a retired former salesperson for a Nissan dealership and current owner of a “15 Murano and a “12 Frontier, Nissan needs to junk the CVT transmission on all vehicles , period.
Check the owner manual for the required transmission fluid and filter changes (expensive). Same type transmission golf carts. Mine lasted about 114k miles and traded it in for Mazda cx5. Frontier still has regular automatic.
The CVT fluid is suppose to be drained and refilled every 30,000 miles at the dealer and it's about $250 , and I don't think Nissan clientele would care to do that
@@falsificationismI just saw two new frontiers going for $33,000 but I’m leaning towards gladiator nighthawk for the same price but I would love a ram for that prices and I’m going to wait a month or two
Just bought a new frontier. Absolutely love it. Hope Nissan can stick around for a long time. First car I ever had was a 2000 frontier and loved it. New one feels just like the old one. Not in a dated way, more like a solid classic way of that makes sense. I hope to give this to my kid in a few years. I hope I can buy an identical one 5ish years from now. And since Nissan likes to leave the frontier alone, I’m optimistic that I will be able to get the same truck in 5-7 years
As a current Nissan owner, I’m sad to see Nissan suffering as a company. I hope they can eventually turn things around. Regardless of the bad news, I’m still glad that you brought us this information.
Same here, 2014 Maxima owner and love my car but it really does seem Nissan lost the, personality, granted it was a drive like a bat out of hell on a discount personality but hey that’s what moved the cars back in the day lol
@@tigersilberhannes9153 dont think thats the case. but then like almost OEMs i dont think Nissan has many vehicles with manuals in them anymore. they arent as efficient as the automatics have become
Lol yeah if someone does a correlation or causation of the decline in sales they shouldn't be surprised when it starts to decline a year after they introduced those snowmobile transmissions.
My last three cars have been Nissans, 2007 Sentra, 2016 Maxima (still driving it) and we just bought a 2025 Kicks SR, with premium package. All three have had the CVT transmissions,and never a problem with any. Although, I don’t put as many miles on a car as many people and am religious about servicing the car. I am sorry to hear this news about Nissan, a brand I am very loyal to. I hope the new Kicks helps turn things around for them.
Agreed, guys, except you forgot to add: 1. Don't buy a model known to be below-average in reliability 2. Don't buy a vehicle loaded with dealer options they won't remove from the price 3. Don't buy a 2023 or 2024 vehicle for more than a few hundred dollars above the current book value 4. As Always: don't be negotiating monthly loan payments or trade-in value before you've agreed on an out-the-door price ...because doing any one of those things can remove all your bargaining advantage... and don't think the dealer doesn't know that!
My local Nissan service center is awful. I made a complaint to Nissan north America and they refused making a repair under goodwill because i didn't service my car at the nissan service center frequent enough despite having multiple problems with them over the years. Note that i brought the car in under warranty describing the very issue that I they later wouldn't cover the repair for when it was out of warranty. I'll never purchase a Nissan again no matter how good the deals are
Should have gotten the dealership's manager involved and when that didn't work get your state's Attorney General's office involved in the matter. When the AG contacts the dealership it really gets their attention and almost always they call you back immediately afterwards.
That's super frustrating, but unfortunately you can get that treatment from just about any brand these days. They all look for a reason to deny warranty claims. Even among the supposedly best brands like Honda and Toyota.
you’d be surprised how many older models are still on the road - and older models of Escapes, CRVs, RAV4s, Tucsons, etc. Reliability issues only affect a small percentage of models but society has used that to define the overall reliability of some models because it’s easier to think that way than to think about it logically.
The key to keeping the CVT running is maintenance. They die when people don't maintain them. I'm a former Nissan Master Tech. We can look in the Transmission Control Module and see when the last time the fluid was changed. 90% of the time the answer was "never".
Had a Cvt issue and my local service center didn't diagnose it under warranty when I raised concerns over the transmission. They diagnosed it on my first trip back after warranty was up...
The newer CVTs are more reliable than the old ones. The biggest thing is maintenance, most people don't know you have to change the CVT oil every 45k to 60K miles depending on usage. If you want it to last over 250K miles, change the CVT fluid at least every 60k mi minimum.
When the first year Murano came out, it came to the dealership shortly after for a transmission code.. NOT kidding I was a Nissan master technician and was one of the first in Columbus Ohio to rip it out and replace it under warranty. All the while on the phone with Nissan engineers providing feedback as to what all the tests I had to do showed. That Murano only had less than 1k miles on it.
Yes. They're generally good cars aside from their horrible CVTs. I bought a new 2012 Versa. Loved the car and it gave me very little trouble for the 56k miles I owned it, but the CVT never felt right since day 1. It always made weird noises and then started slipping at 38k miles.
Don't fool yourself all manufactured service departments are horrible and remember most dealerships are independently operated so you can't blame a brand for what one particular dealer is doing.
if everyone just stops buying for a while...the dealers will either go out of business or be forced to drop their pricing by A LOT... so you should be able to get a Nissan Rogue for example around $20,000 instead of the "screwing the customer" pricing at $45,000...cause it DOES NOT cost that much to build...its just because people are stupid and will buy anyway
your poor cries are unheard. you're surrounded by a crowd of simpletons who think car manufacturers ought to make you a vehicle at a loss for your benefit. communism and the soviet union fell in 1991, you better make more money broke boy!
Manufacturers obviously aren't struggling hard enough still because they aren't offering anywhere near the manufacturer incentives like they were pre-pandemic. At this time of year back in 2018, I was in the market for a compact sedan. Toyota was offering $1,500 off the Corolla. Hyundai was offering $3,000 off the Elantra. I went with the Elantra. The dealership knocked an additional $450 off the price and threw in 2 free oil changes and a set of locking lugnuts. Back in 2014, I bought a new Mirage. They were offering $4,000 off MSRP on what was already a cheap car to begin with. I'm not seeing deals anywhere near this good from manufacturers yet.
This is a fact. Most of the early problems of CVTs have been taken care of on their modern ones. But maintenance is number one. If you don't change the CVT fluid every 45k to 60k mi (depending on usage), you're going to have problems. Part of the problem is lack of education from the dealership. I called half a dozen dealers and got several different answers to how often it should be changed. Anywhere from 30K miles to you never have to change it. The dealers that are telling people that they never have to change it are causing big problems for those customers. It is not a "forever fill" and should never go beyond 60K miles between changes. And the filters need to be changed each time as well.
My local Nissan dealership has the worst service department I've ever experienced. They charge you for not fixing what you brought the vehicle in to be fixed.
sounds almost as bad some of the Korean brands. i was looking to get one until i checked on the local dealer, turns they are a part of a group, and service is down in another city. and the reviews for the dealership.... was just plain bad
Nissan sold for too long bad transmissions and did their best to screw their customers and expect people to buy or trust them hopefully customers are smart enough to stay away no matter how good the deal up front they will pay later
When VW got caught in dieselgate, they went all in on EV's to meet CAFE standards instead of just fixing the diesels. That was the wrong thing to do. They should have just fixed the diesels. Diesels were a HUGE reason why people bought VW's. I myself bought a new Jetta diesel manual trans. It was a '14 and got almost 60 mpg on the highway. I sold it before dieselgate, but I know the reprogramming dropped the highway mpg to about 50 mpg, but that's still a great number. This is why I say they should have stuck with diesels.
04:40 - reg guy here: I always used to think the dealerships were supposed to have tons of vehicles on the lot in different colors/trims. I never realized until I started watching channels like yours, that it’s a bad thing for them
We have a 2015 Altima with 105k with no issues and had a 2017 Rogue with 135k with no issues until u recently totaled it. I just replaced it with a certified 2023 Rogue. Now honestly I don’t think the fit and finish is quite on the level of say a CRV but Nissan still makes good cars.
When dealers set an objective for each year, it is not just some aspirational wishlist. Sales drive the whole budget, including overhead, staffing, inventory, and financing. If even conservative sales projections are missed, the entire cost structure of the business can be damaged. Missing a conservative target can be catastrophic to a business. It can cause a cascade failure that destroys the entire business. Watch for changes in the sales staff because the best salesmen will be the first to jump a sinking ship.
course they might want to sell something besides vehicles as lots of other OEMs are having dealers arent selling vehicles as fast as they expected. and no its not just EVs that have this problem, all of the vehicles are. some maybe because of the vehicles the dealerships bought (they seem to order mostly the higher priced versions and with interest rates so high and many finance companies getting out of vehicle loans and those remaining be much careful who what and who they finance, which leads to lots of stock on dealers lots, they have been there for a long time. some still have brand new 2023s, and 2025s are coming in. i suppose problem is that dealers now have a PR problem based on what they did for 2-3 years, with all of the additional mandatory charges to be able to buy a vehicle, now that has come back to haunt them. OEMs didnt help, they increase MSRPs after seeing what dealers were doing to prices. and with very short supply of inventory (some might have had less than vehicles on their lots), now inventory is back and building. OEMs should have noticed the growing inventories and started to their pre pandemic advertising programs to hep dealers, and if they didnt help, start rebate programs. but they didnt. also some of the OEMs are still having supply problems, but look great as far as how fast they sell, but if you only have 100 vehicles on lots and sold 50 in the last 30 days, you look look really good. but you really not doing well at all
unfortunately manuals are dying of cause many customers have no interest in them, they arent as efficient as the automatics are, plus in lots of places driving a manual is more painful cause the roads are so packed with vehicles.
Even in the current situation, 2 Nissan dealers quoted me $540+ to lease an Altima while Toyota/Honda gave me a $450 quote with the same money down ($1k) and mileage for camry and accord respectively. Safe to say I said no to all of them got me my Sonata for $300/month with the best warranty lol. Absolutely crazy deal for a $29.5k car.
Nissan seems to have a good plan with the Rogue going hybrid, and the new design for the kicks and Murano. I like buying Nissans here because the dealership has always sold me the vehicles at MSRP. The alternate Nissan dealership I stay away from because they play the car price game. The Mazda I had was good. But one finance officer tried to cheat me, and it took the sales manager who sold me car to shut down that scam. Ford lost me as a customer after tacking on $14,000 to the $24,000 Maverick I ordered, and waited a year and 7 months for.
my 2024 Titan is my 5th one...and it's by FAR the worst...transmission issues, cruise control issues, computer issues, and 2 dealerships said "we can't find anything wrong"...if it was my first Titan I would doubt myself, but after 5???? there is definitely a problem that they are trying hard to ignore...looks like another class-action, maybe????
Yeah well these guys are educational and informative on car market stuff. And occasionally they share some humor 😂. I’m good with Rays 43 years experience. That’s why I’m here….
@@vingooch thankfully i'm not spazzing out unfiltered and unsolicited stupidity in youtube comments then resorting to namecalling when men call me out for being feminine and whiney. that'd be sadder than a toolbox, don' you think?
If I'm going to buy a car that should get two hundred thousand miles but in reality will only get fifty thousand miles then I should only expect to pay twenty five per cent of the manufacturers suggested retail price.😮
They should have listened to us when we said NO to CVTs and make the poorly designed Nissan Z look more like the 300ZX of the early 90s. Too bad for them! How about the new Frontier? Engine options? Transmission options? Nope. Nissan of the 90s was great. The Frontier of 2005 to 2019 was good. Particularly 2009 to 2018. Gushing over a V6, 4wd with a six speed manual PRO4X. Now that's a great sports truck!
)did you cry the entire time your wrote this?.... so you prefer 80's and 90's vehicles that lasted 100k miles (if you were lucky) compared to modern vehicles that typically last over 200k miles?.. am i getting any part of your incoherent emotional babble incorrect or are you actually as stupid as you sound?
The thing with these sales incentives is that select vehicles also need to be equipped with chosen things to make the sales count. Chevy's big thing was on the star with their cars.
Bought a 2017 Maxima for a great price where the dealership sold it at a loss. Unfortunately they dealership had been less than friendly with services and find every way to up charge you. I’m not against any of the cars but the service in my area was poor. Curious to see how the brand recovers bc they were on a uprise
@@the1andonlydomdom my experience with buying a 2016 Maxima was just the opposite. I got 7 free oil changes and paid zero, no up charges for anything. Not all dealerships are created the same. Sorry about your bad experience.
I must have bought my wife her Rogue Platinum during the end of the quarter of a "stair-step" program back in 2021. When everything else was high priced and over sticker, a specific dealer in Cleveland gave us $7000 off MSRP on a new loaded Platinum. A friend of mine came in and got the same deal the next day. I got the car for $35K out the door including dealer fees, and it had a sticker of almost $42K being that it had every single option available. Most dealers were asking a couple grand over sticker. I negotiated the heck out of it, but I asked the finance guy how I managed to get it so cheap because I knew there wasn't that much markup in it, and he showed me his screen and it showed that they actually lost a couple thousand bucks on the deal. But, it was the end of the quarter and he said they needed to hit a certain target to get the next level bonus which was essentially going to be an extra $250k bonus across the board, and they were only a few cars away. It was one of those few times I didn't think the finance guy was blowing smoke, the deal was pretty much already done, he didn't have to reveal that to me.
You must not keep up with the financial news. They are in trouble, stock dumped 60-70% over the last 6 months. Going out of business is a bit hyperbolic but they are definitely having problems and undergoing restructuring and cost cutting.
I don't know where you are getting these figures. Someone else said something like this two weeks ago, but it did not match up with Nissan's official reports. I wish someone would give me a source I could verify.
These dealers will wait until they are bleeding out of every orofice and beyond before they give a customer a "deal" the executives will milk it until they bail out with their golden parachutes.
Do the Stair Step Incentives specify and Trim limitations or requirements? For example, only 3 Platinums, 17 SVs and 30 S Rogues meets the criteria. sell 4 Plats and 16 SVs and you don’t get the incentive?
I've got a 2017 versa with CVT at 90k miles. What got me mad is my service center never at any point recommended me getting a transmission flush and when I asked about it they'd always say "it's fine". Then finally around the 85k mile service the service advisor goes you've never flushed your transmission fluid and now it's too late. Like my guy, I asked multiple times at different mileage points and you kept recommending against it, now you want to tell me I can't do it at all. Unbelievable. Gonna hope it last me long enough to trade the car in and get something else.
dealers can't even move their budget models (ie Sentra). local dealer has 36 Sentra 2024 model years in stock. they are dropping the prices like a rock, still not selling. i got one dealer down to $19,300 for a SV. debated pulling the trigger on it, but i think i can get it even lower just by waiting it out.
Figures for Nissan North America third quarter 2024: Sales of the Nissan Z sports car were up 109.3% year-over-year for the quarter. Sales of the Nissan Versa sedan were up 68.1% year-over-year for the quarter. Sales of the Nissan Pathfinder SUV were up 41.4% year-over-year for the quarter. Sales of the Nissan Ariya electric crossover were up 23.3% year-over-year for the quarter. Sales of the Nissan Frontier pickup were up 21.6% year-over-year for the quarter. Sales of the Nissan Sentra sedan were up 9.8% year-over-year for the quarter.
Unfortunately everyone who got a raise or promotion between 2020-2024 is going to either have to sit on their current vehicle, or pay a higher price. Can’t have universal wage increases and then expect to get deals on cars. Eventually the dealer will just pick and choose between losing less money or more money. Not a good situation.
All the negotiating techniques you gentlemen teach are not real life workable. I’m trying to purchase a Santa Cruz in Las Vegas. Centennial Hyundi salesman said come in I’ll have the vehicle out front. He did NOT then went on to try to sell me a car I didn’t want. Then I got a written deal from the Sahara Hyundi dealer. Sent it to the Henderson dealer he says, I can beat it if u come in. He cannot beat the deal over the internet. Well that’s not good enough. He wants to sell me something with different ad ons. U c I’m now unable to compare the deals. What a frustrating experience this is in reality
Nissan should go 100% EV models and start prices at $100,000!! The "LT" Edition! "LT" stands for "LOT ROT"!! Perhaps if they dropped the 3 cylinder engines for a TWO Cylinder Engine LOL!!!
EXACTLY! Their styling, pricing, interiors, engines, etc. are good. It is their lousy reputation CVT's which consumers know about, and stay away from! If they only made quality CVT's or go back to a conventional geared auto transmision!
It is a combination of things. The Bri Larson commercials make me want one even less. The new Z is ugly, The trucks are mediocre and overpriced. Nobody wants an EV. They have nothing to offer that excite people.
What are your thoughts on CVT Transmissions in 2024? We know CVT's of old are KNOWN to be unreliable. Are they potentially becoming more reliable over time, because with hybrids we seem to see CVT's everywhere! If the 'CVT worry' is a thing of the past, that lets me look at more cars because so far I've only been looking at automatic transmissions.
Guys, of course Nissan and those other manufacturers have an oversupply. This may the market forces at work. Maybe Nissan is not manufacturing good vehicles.
What Nissan should get from this: "We should stop making stupidly big SUVs that nobody can afford anymore and stop using CVTs (or make them marginally better). All in all we should start making more reliable cars now." What Nissan will get from this: "Let's stop making small cars to focus only on big SUVs. And let's make them unreliable so that people will have to buy a new one more often. That's where the money is at boys!"
