Renegades React to... Death Battle - Thor vs. Wonder Woman 

Davide Cortesi When Zoom and Flash(Wally) fought for the first time Flash could barely see him or understand what he said because he was so fast. And then when they fought again they were both so fast the entire world may as well have been frozen

You have to note however that WW tagging Zoom isn't a speed feat, it's a prediction feat. She was clearly not catching up to him but rather predicting where he would appear.

flash is faster

The end of fight analysis begins at 24:49

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Thanks Caleb

Tanks Calebs

Yeah and that got retconned in Rebirth to be a mix of the original origin and the new one.

What? Where does this come up? I don't remember this when I read Rebirth. I remember Diana being made of Clay was a lie to stop Hera killing Hippolyta and her children.

Well then i don't fucking know comics are weird man one second it's one thing then the next is another at this point just assume the truth is just a mix of the two.

Everything Wonder Woman knows was a lie she isn't the daughter of Zeus in rebirth

Black ReaperKai What issue was this brought up in?

Matthew Schwebes - actually quite a few now, I can think of 4 off my head but there’s more

Superman could possibly lift the thing

Wonder woman, Hulk, Captain America. I am sure there are a few others but i am so green when it comes to comic books. Those 3 are the one i heard from lore videos.

More than 10 if you rly count everything.

Odin, The Vision, and Beta Ray Bill can also be added to the list.

Professor Paradox She blocked attacks from Nekron and the entire Greek Pantheon with her bracelets (Nekron bodied Spectre who shitstomps DC Skyfather who Marvel Skyfathers, and the entire might of DC'S Greek Pantheon >>> Marvel's Asgard/Olympus [based on scaling to the likes of Phantom Stranger and the true forms of Apokalyptians who eclipse the entire multiverse]), so she can block attacks from his axe, and her speed hax >>>>>> anything Thor does consistently and inconsistently (she bodied Flash and the JL blindfolded, as well as Zoom, both of whom are massively faster than the likes of Silver Surfer, as well as the God Shards from all corners of the universe). The axe wouldn't have made much of a difference based on the characters at hand and how they fight (and since he had Mjolnir during the fight if we want him at his best, he'd be less inclined to actually use it).

Professor Paradox You can't always include every feat in such a short video (even Seth the Programmer and Animation Rewind ignore important feats or misconstrue them, and they've both lowballed characters like Thor, Doomsday, Darkseid, and Superman). The animation was for entertainment, not a simulation (Screw attack mentions this). The god blast couldn't dent her bracelets and neither can mjolnir (she blocked the power of the entire Greek pantheon and a being who waved away Spectre, no comparison). At minimum, her pantheon is equal to Marvels Greek pantheon (though, other gods besides the main sky father in DC have more impressive feats so the overall power level should lean towards DC's Greek Pantheon), and Marvels Zues was stated and shown to be on par with Odin (we can scale DC Zues to at least that of the true Darkseid/Orion/High Father, all of whom eclipse the multiverse in size). A full power god blast (that can injure celestials) would destroy Mjolnir in the process (shown in canon when he damaged a celestial and had to have his hammer restored shortly after it shattered from the stress) and if she blocked it, it would do little to nothing to her bracelets. Also, with access to both weapons, why would Thor use the inferior one (he often relies on Mjolnir and that's where most of his hax lies)? In circumstances where he had prior knowledge of certain enemies (like Apocalypse, who he knew he couldn't normally hurt without the enchanted axe) then we'd probably see him employ more of that strategy (possibly, though again, he is very dependant on Mjolnir, so that's subjective). You can use feats for both N52 and Post Crisis if you use Post Crisis, because Post Crisis characters are canonically vastly above N52 in almost every category, and a good portion of their skills and abilities are basically the same (just toned down for N52): like if we use Post Crisis Superman, we can scale him to well above the feats of N52 (since he's canonically more powerful, barring instances where he was suffering from the same event that stripped N52 Clark of his powers). As for her arsenal, it's basically the same for most versions of Wonder Woman (and the atom cutter sword might not be exclusive to N52 or Kingdom Come), and Rebirth did fuse N52 and Post Crisis into one time line (so in this case, it is kind of fine for them to use feats from both since they both now are part of the same timeline). Rune King Thor should probably be excluded from this debate if we're going by standard canon forms (it becomes one sided in his favor since that's his most powerful form, and at least equal to Odin in power; whereas while WW might be able to block some attacks, he eclipses her in basically every category if she's lucky). Barring the creation force form she, Batman, and Superman had against Krona she likely doesn't have any forms that can match up to RKT (not that I've seen anyway).

Remind me how the Iron Man & Lex Luthor fight ended again. Seemed a bit more than just one-sided. Ya know.

Professor Paradox that would be adding a weapon he does not use commonly. He would have to be given prep to get it.

Professor Paradox giving him any other form would make him a reality warper. He cant acheive those forms normally in battle Even warriors madness which just makes him crazy. They did downplay him. But the results are accurate

FaggoTv Thor>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wonder Woman anyday.

Thor fanboys = some of the most butthurt clowns you can find in the internet. WW would blitz the shit out of Slowdinson any day of the week.

@ Your Deepest Of Fears Ah damn, i've totally forgot how Thor gets empowered by butthurt(especially worthy butthurt). He would surely beat even TOAA now XD.

Fezaki actualy pretty yes....

No Thors just another overrated marvel character

Yep...

It's not like he can use it a will all the time unlike WW who can use something comparable to it just by taking off her armlets.

+Brian Rodriguez But he can still use it though.

They failed to mention a bunch of things. Both Thor and Wonder Woman have been around for decades, and trying to get a composite power level out of them is DUUUUUMB, because you're giving the characters abilities they don't have anymore, that have been retconned out of existence, while ignoring the weaknesses that have also been retconned out of existence. For example, the sun pulling feat mentioned comes from way back in the Golden Age, when WW's bracelets were a weird sex thing and if you tied up her wrist she lost all her powers.

Mark Ciccolella They even forgot God Blast.

I'm surprised they haven't yet.

Mr Mister narrruutooo sasukeeee NARUTOOOOO SASUKEEEEEEEEEEE

DG K exactly

It was a horrible Death Battle. Biggest nerfing i have seen in a while from Screwattack.

@@gerardlevaar6766 yeah

Exactly. DC characters are simply stronger and smarter than most marvel characters.

Or the Goddess of Truth WW abilities, just that it wouldn't have much connection to the actual Superheroes Thor and WW.

Repressed Superman that is*

She's a deni goddess.

maxdrags3 not mention the pure reflexes that is better then spider-man spider senses

+Manuel Cabeza Eh, maybe.

And, as mentioned by Nate, Wonder Woman has moved the sun by herself, and they ignored that. Superhero comic books are dumb, and doing a composite feats fight is even dumber. Most of the feats they listed for both characters were done with different writers at the helm, sometimes decades apart.

+Crai Tierney Eh, even then, any Thor with Odin Force would still stomp WW.

Also, if you want to get into actual defining feats like lifting twenty planets, you need to provide calculations showing how powerful that makes him. How exactly was he moving twenty planets with one arm at once, and how much did those planets weigh? How strong is the Odin Force? You can't say "it beat X character", you have to say, "it allowed him to beat X character, who's eban shown to be able to take Y amount of force, and can beat Z, who can take W amount of force" and do a bunch of math, or you're just spouting power level jargon that doesn't mean anything.

I see someone didn't read enough. That was from silver age comics. A lot of distasteful abilities and weaknesses were retconned out.

@@aaronsmith5947 well tbh i am not a comic person but i do thank you for the information imma still keep my original comment so i dont forget my mistake

Lol "one of the few vids", 95% of their videos are bullshit. This time they had just a lucky pick with the right winner, but still after a bullshit analysis for both.

Demi god you mean.

vtech325 did it kill her tho?

Ryan R Injured, but avoided anything serious.

When did screwattack ever say she was immune to blunt force? Also, those are 3 incredibly strong people that are near invincible. That's like a guy saying that he can resist a hit from a bullet and someone combats that by saying "But he can't resist a hit from a missle". You are comparing completely different things.

Alice Love The middle-guy on the couch did.

Thor is at east as phyically powerful as Doomsday, plus he's also a master of magic.

They also didn't mention an absolute ton of Wonder Woman's abilities.

Timothy Ashton been wondering that too his voice has been weird for a while now, hope he feels better

You mean THORsed.

No they haven't. Thor is almost useless without his hammer. wonder woman has 1200 years more experience and trained to fight from the age of 3. Thor was never going to win.

It's debunked

butthurt marvel kid

That was a movie thing only. Thor never wielded Stormbreaker in the comics.

Tell me you don't remember them only showing one combatant on the next time clip back then without telling me

Stone Rhino the mjolnir lifting is as I heard non-canon

yes and no.. the marvel universe has a alternate universe where the crossovers actually happen so technically it is canon to a specific universe and likely others (ie the other alternate universes in that multiverse where crossovers happen..) there are two such universes.. 1 the voting one where she lifted it and 2 the avengers/JLA crossover DC handled the multiverse differently at this time and still does. added to the fact that Amazon mentality is pretty much in line with Norse Mentality and it's worthiness based on Odin's perception.. Wonder Woman fits that. added to the fact that Thor does also exist in the DC universe.. although he is a ginger in that universe.

The version of Wonder Woman that lifted Mjolnir also lost to Storm. Screwattack said that they won't use anything from that event in their research since the battles were decided by fan votes.

Professor Paradox that fight wasn't canon Was a fan vote

Stone Rhino Red Son was non canon and can't really be indicative of its normal powers (in canon continuity, Spectre couldn't break it, and he eclipses Red Son Superman).

No, he is a full God but that has not much actual meaning to be honest.

Cis In I don't recall seeing that. and even then, they usually make a point not to use shared feats.

Josey Kaiser They also forgot 70% of Thor's arsenal. An arsenal which would've shredded Wonder Woman in seconds, but you know. Whatever.

FaggoTv - thank you, someone else knows

Josey Kaiser but they used the shared feat for superman when him and wonderwoman lift infinite I believe his name was in goku vs superman

@ Family Friendly Usernamr Cool and they also forget 90% of the Arsenal that WW usually don't uses, but hey that would be surely a funny fight between Golden Armor WW vs Jarnbjorn Thor. The stupidity of Thor fanboys is sometimes rly beyond good and evil, but you know. Whatever.

...really? You can move faster than the speed of light? Could I get some proof, please?

I don't need proof, because the THEORY of Relativity, is just that, a theory, just like gravity, The Big Bang, etc. Its really just a matter of time till those theories change as we discover/learn more about our universe. Also, to say that NOTHING can go faster than the speed of light is the very definition of human arrogance.

If you're going to say something you need some evidence that backs up your statement. Just because something is "just" a theory doesn't mean that it isn't true, it means that it's the best explanation we have at the moment. The whole point of having these theories is so that scientists can try to break them to find out more about the universe we live in. A theory is assumed to be true until it is proven wrong, then the theory is changed to accommodate this new knowledge. THAT'S HOW SCIENCE WORKS Hopefully because you think gravity is "just a theory" you might just float away.

Lol. please. Wonder woman punched out Darkseid. Thor couldn't even touch Thanos

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 First off, what I meant was that some of the feats they gave for her being stronger didn’t compare to what I knew personally about Thor because I know more about Marvel than DC, but thanks to a DC fanboy on RU-vid, I learned that she really was stronger, just not for the reasons Death Battle stated. That’s what I meant. And second, the live-action movie version of the characters are often inaccurate representations of that characters when compared to their comic book counterparts. I understand now that Wonder Woman really would win, I just feel like they should’ve given better reasons for why since better reasons where available. Third, they just didn’t give us the viewers enough information to work with. They barely covered all of Thor’s and Mjolnir’s abilities. I just wish that they had more properly showed their analysis since they most likely covered all that when calculating the verdict. I just want them to show us that they did so.

@@crayladrawshnick6232 Don't you worry about live action versions of characters. The DCEU version of Wonder woman is very accurate to the Rebirth canon of DC comics. She's already tough enough to take on both Ares and Doomsday so she's more than tough enough to take on Thor and beat him.

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Fair enough, but in the MCU, most of the really powerful characters are nerfed completely into the ground, especially Thor and Hulk, who should easily be planet busters. That’s all.

@@crayladrawshnick6232 Lol. No. Marvel characters are just weak because marvel wants to ground all their characters and try to make them relatable. DC says fuck that. Characters are much more interesting when they're like gods. That's why Mythology is supposed to be. Thanos is just a cheap copy of Darkseid who is a god. Thanos just wishes he was one. And planet busters are weak. Superman has sneezed and destroyed entire galaxies.

They should watch the most retarded Thor fanboy on RU-vid? Yeah i'm sure they will start reading Marvel after watching that clown(a much better tip would be to read a good Thor run, like Aaron's God of Thunder for example)... I'm more interessted to hear how much DC you've actually read, cause you seemingly missed how they missed tons of Wonder Woman's abilities, feats, gear and special modes like Godwave and Goddess of Truth?

Post Ragnarok aka MCU Thor would die from the shockwaves of this fight bro, the comic versions are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar beyond the movie versions.

@ Your Deepest Of Fears What has his comment to do with the video lmao...

Doubt that. wonder woman has destroyed entire galaxies and punched out Darkseid.

Thor is weak bitch compared to Wonder woman

Lol. weaaaaak! Wonder woman has destroyed entire galaxies and punched out Darkseid. Thor is weak and pathetic in comparison

Sergio Melendez They also forgot 70% of Thor's arsenal and nerfed his hammer throwing feat, but you know. Whatever.

They overselled Thor's speed and underselled his strength instead XD.

And your point being now? Wonder Woman don't wins against anyone else here, just against Thor(for partly the right reasons, WW isn't remotely 8000 times stronger than Thor but countless times faster).