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Renting v Owning: Why I rent as a landlord 

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@JoeyMcCam
@JoeyMcCam Год назад
In spite of how everyone is frightened and calling the crash, there is already an excessive amount of demand waiting to absorb it, which is another reason it's less likely to happen that way. This forecast was not made in 2008, at least not by the general public, as I will explain below. The ownership rate peaked in 2004, according to the other comment. We reached a peak in the second quarter of 2020 and are currently at the median level. From 2008 to 2012, it fell by 3%, and in the second quarter of 2020, it dropped from 68 to 65.
@sheliaswelttk2535
@sheliaswelttk2535 Год назад
Because they are used to bull markets, most people find it difficult to handle a decline, but if you know where to search and how to get around, you can make a sizable profit. It depends on how you plan to enter and leave.
@joshcassigham9800
@joshcassigham9800 Год назад
@@sheliaswelttk2535 Given that we are not accustomed to such uncertain markets, the fact that the US stock market has been on its longest bull run ever makes the widespread anxiety and excitement comprehensible. There are opportunities if you know where to go, as you noted that it wasn't difficult for me to earn more than $780k in the previous 10 months. Since I was aware that I would need a reliable and strong plan to get through these tough times, I engaged a portfolio advisor.
@sheliaswelttk2535
@sheliaswelttk2535 Год назад
@@joshcassigham9800 My portfolio has been in the gutter for the entire year, so I started researching new ways to profit in the market, but everything I tried just seemed to miss the mark. Please let us know the name of your financial advisor.
@joshcassigham9800
@joshcassigham9800 Год назад
@@sheliaswelttk2535 It was run by Juliet Eve Downey, who I learned about and got in touch with thanks to a CNBC interview. Since then, it has served as the point of entry and departure for the games we have emphasized. A search on the internet can be done if tracking is necessary.
@sheliaswelttk2535
@sheliaswelttk2535 Год назад
@@joshcassigham9800 I just copied and pasted Juliet Eve Downey whole name into my browser, and her website appeared right away. You've saved me several hours of arduous research, therefore I appreciate it.
@TomRyanElliott
@TomRyanElliott 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant and this is exactly what I'm doing. Buying another property up north as a landlord while renting down here in London. The hope is to save the rent from up north via investments to buy another
@musesilvergirl
@musesilvergirl Год назад
I love this video! This is what I have been telling my friends who want to get into the property market. As they are all living in London, they are all trying to buy in London. They hardly think about investing in higher yield / higher potential capital gain areas while they are renting in London. Especially most of them have no family, so the stability part might not be so much of a factor for them. This is all just personal choice, and how to be smart with ££.
@60crown
@60crown Год назад
Another great post Rob. Great balanced views here. It’s not all about the money (or people wouldn’t go on holiday or go to restaurants (cheaper to cook your own at home). Lots of reasons to do different things. Priority is key.
@OperationAndrew.
@OperationAndrew. Год назад
Surprisingly convincing. The problem is that you can buy your own home with very little equity, yet you still get to keep all of the capital appreciation (minus the interest payments). Even better if you have Lodgers, because you can basically 'live for free'. But even if you don't, your appreciation is probably higher than your monthly mortgage payments on average
@OperationAndrew.
@OperationAndrew. Год назад
I definitely lose some flexibility, but in a few years I can refinance onto a BTL mortgage, and buy a new residential home (or just start renting if preferred). I like how thought provoking this video was though, because I wouldn't have considered the rental option previously
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
Thanks Andy! Agreed, the tax and borrowing options are far better for owner occupiers. Having lodgers is the ultimate (if you don’t mind the lack of flexibility and having the company)
@AmyChinaHouse
@AmyChinaHouse 7 месяцев назад
If you own a SPV BTL company. You are working at home. Can you claim the rental fee as company expenses?
@TheNomadicTrader
@TheNomadicTrader Год назад
What a great video. I'm new to investing so this is a serious consideration as I want to make the right decisions early on in my property career. Thank you for sharing
@tanodamorire
@tanodamorire Год назад
For me the biggest downside of renting (which you didn't mention in the video) is that it will restrict your mortgage options on your BTL
@anastasioskoulaouzidis6640
@anastasioskoulaouzidis6640 Год назад
excellent & to the point!
@paulmartin8828
@paulmartin8828 Год назад
Once nice compromise is to own but to set your repayment term to as long as your lender will let you which could be, for example up to age 75. People don't typically do this because they think this means they will have to work until 75, but the reduction in opportunity cost that this affords might mean you can invest more elsewhere and then ironically this might mean you can actually retire earlier than you otherwise would (e.g. at around 55).
@singletrackmind84
@singletrackmind84 Год назад
Another option is to get an interest only mortgage on your residence - but I understand most lenders require 50% LTV for this.
@paulmartin8828
@paulmartin8828 Год назад
@@singletrackmind84 And a very high salary
@garylake1676
@garylake1676 Год назад
You do not have to live in the home you own, (you can rent it out), but you must never ever not strive to own your own home, whether you live there or not, but never ever forget to live in the home you own as ALL capital appreciation is free of Capital Gains Tax, this is an 'opportunity cost', and you can get a better LTV on your own home than you can with a commercial mortgage.
@prodriveress
@prodriveress Год назад
I am a landlord that rents… I get it! Think of it like a car, there are benefits to owning a car, there are also benefits of getting a car on subscription. If you own then you have all the maintenance to think about, but you have an asset albeit sometimes a depreciating one. If you subscribe, lease or hire, then maintenance is included and you have the flexibility to change easily. Bizarrely, I prefer to own a car and rent a home!
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
Bizarre to some maybe, but who cares - what makes you happy is more important than the numbers!
@AlienX202
@AlienX202 Год назад
I will only consider renting when the area I want to live in has a terrible ROI, and currently London and south England are the only possible places to have a low ROI. That can also be one of the reason why London rent rises higher than other places. But generally in the north and midland, where house prices are much more reasonable, it is almost always better to own a house rather than to rent if money is your first concern
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
I think that’s broadly right, although top-end homes anywhere can end up being cheaper to rent. But as I said in the video, for me money isn’t the primary factor
@dlc2479
@dlc2479 Год назад
I genuinely think the biggest factor for deciding to buy or not (assuming you can afford it) is whether or not you have kids and therefore need to have a decent level of stability. There are also inheritance tax implications too.
@rikardsaje
@rikardsaje Год назад
I was brought up with people saying you have to own a house asap and don't rent but as I've got older I can see the benefits of renting but as you say you need to invest. I actually own my home and had it paid off which felt good for a few weeks then decided to use some equity to buy the premises where I run my business. We're still in the same house but have a commercial property that pays the mortgage and that is half of what the rent was so still kind of mortgage free.
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
One way of looking at it is when you have a mortgage, you’re renting the money from the bank. If you’re using that money to earn a higher return than the interest you pay (like in your case) you’re winning.
@jonathanmcgovern2464
@jonathanmcgovern2464 8 месяцев назад
Great video. Love renting hate when people say throwing money away. On flexibility as well as hassle of selling moving most mortgage payment in first few years goes to interest not capital so if one moves and upgrades after a few years as people (estate agents, banks etc..) say it is OK to do ('don't worry you can sell your 'starter' home and move after few years) the new now bigger mortgage will have most of it going to interest (ie throwing money to the bank) again in first years not capital. And no one ever mentions hidden cost of lifestyle inflation over time that comes with owing vrs renting is throwing money away (endowment effect)
@Sophie-kk3st
@Sophie-kk3st Год назад
or, hear me out, you can get a residential mortgage on your property and own it, live there paying mortgage towards it, feel it out and fine tune the place so it won't be having lots of minor issues when being rented out, while researching for your next project. when the mortgage term is up, take out a btl mortgage on it, use it to pay off your remaining mortgage and have the rest as a deposit for your next home/future rental property. residential mortgage rates are usually better than btl rates as well so you are not really losing out. it's not for portfolio landlords who want to hoover up 20 properties in 3 years, but a steady way for more relaxed property lovers to make good stable income while maintaining this fine hobby.
@R3sp3ctMyGam3
@R3sp3ctMyGam3 Год назад
Flexibility is fine if you live alone or with a partner. When you have a family of five though certainty is (and must be) far more important.
@MrCraigShepheard
@MrCraigShepheard Год назад
I rent so I can use my capital to invest in rental assets that provide me with an income. I leverage that amount by 4 times by using Buy To Let mortgages.
@senihachakir1312
@senihachakir1312 Год назад
Will this work now with the rising cost?
@MrCraigShepheard
@MrCraigShepheard Год назад
@@senihachakir1312 Yes it does
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
Yep same approach here
@MrFrobbo
@MrFrobbo Год назад
I was just wondering why you rented and didnt live in your own property, thanks. However, to clarify, CGT IS applicable IF you can't claim Personal Residential Relief (PRR), ie you dont live their 100% of the time, an example is if you separate from a partner and move out and rent, I know!!!
@greetingsbox4229
@greetingsbox4229 Год назад
Ever thought of renting an iron?
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
I was waiting for this comment 😂
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 Год назад
Folk forget that in the UK it was not possible to rent in the private sector before 1985 as there was almost no stock to be had, this was because of rent control and anyone renting out a house would have their rent halved with no prospect of growth,
@janasiguenza1545
@janasiguenza1545 Год назад
Yes but the rent is so high now that you don’t find
@singletrackmind84
@singletrackmind84 Год назад
Rob have you thought of getting an interest only mortgage on your residence?
@denfordpictures6332
@denfordpictures6332 Год назад
I have always wondered how those choosing to rent can afford it in later life ie once retired, that is going to be a massive expense surely?
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
Not if you have income from other investments that covers your rent. Instead of equity in your home you have equity in other homes (or other asset classes)
@anthonyfaucy2761
@anthonyfaucy2761 Год назад
@@PropertyHubUK You're assuming those investments will only ever go up. That will bite you big time and considering the market is down probably won't be long until you lose that income
@old_sport
@old_sport Год назад
Don't you need your own property first before banks will consider offering you a buy to let? I thought I read/heard that from you either on your podcast on in your book.
@jennarobinson4136
@jennarobinson4136 Год назад
The only thing I would disagree with is the point about how if you own the house outright you're losing the opportunity to invest this in something else. It's quite easy to get an unencumbered loan based on this asset to then invest in other things, normally with really good interest rates compared to a mortgage etc as it's a safer bet when you already own the asset.
@dlc2479
@dlc2479 Год назад
Imagine encouraging over leverage in a high interest climate...
@jennarobinson4136
@jennarobinson4136 Год назад
@@dlc2479 I'm not encouraging people to do anything. Just pointing out that if you own the house outright, it's not true that you're then losing the opportunity for better investments. If you are able to get a good interest rate (which you normally can with an unencumbered loan, as unlike a mortgage, there's little risk to the lenders as you fully own the asset) an unencumbered load is a good option to leverage the asset to then make other investments with. Obviously only if people are in a good position to do so.
@dlc2479
@dlc2479 Год назад
@@jennarobinson4136 That's not how that works. Look up the term opportunity cost, that's what you're missing
@h8019
@h8019 Год назад
Thoughts on renting rooms in the house you live in?
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
I’m too antisocial but it’s a great strategy if you’re willing to do it. Lots of investors started out that way.
@adamsmithintin2803
@adamsmithintin2803 Год назад
Could you make a vide about air BnB. I'm currently living in the first property I have bought but I a thinking about moving then Air BnB this property. I want to know what factors I might be overlooking.
@truthseeker3661
@truthseeker3661 5 месяцев назад
why stock ? one can rent out the owned house
@jonsnow6741
@jonsnow6741 Год назад
thinks renting is fine whilst the sun shines . When you have to finish work early due to ill health you will find you are stuffed and the council won't be picking up the bill.
@wisely4u
@wisely4u Год назад
Makes no sense... you buy property and you rent out, don't you? So... what is the difference???
@NomadJRG
@NomadJRG Год назад
He is saying he rents where he lives and gets exposure to the property market via owning his rental properties. By renting where he lives he can move when he likes and upsize or downsize depending on his current needs with very minimal cost (doesn't have to sell his home).
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
Exactly. Plus wherever you want to live may not meet your criteria for a good financial investment.
@tobsstone
@tobsstone Год назад
did you watch the video? numpty!!
@drnickyyy5679
@drnickyyy5679 Год назад
Just cos you can cook to save money doesn't mean you're going to cook everyday
@wisely4u
@wisely4u Год назад
@Dr Nickyyy hey doctor... so "cos" you are a doc and should be clever so... cooking at home is like living in your own home and eating out is like renting ??? So if you are renting, then you are technically eating out every day every single meal?! 🤔 If you have many properties(home) but you don't or not suitable for you and your family to live in it??? I know property is a business, but also, it's a home!
@idhughes1
@idhughes1 Год назад
May I suggest investing in an iron for that T shirt 😂
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
Nah I’ll just rent one 😉
@Real_Matt
@Real_Matt Год назад
What would actually help with these videos mate is if you gave some actual numbers from your situation. A bit of transparency would go a long way.
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
What numbers would you find helpful?
@tundeuk
@tundeuk Год назад
Once you have bought several houses, chances are you will choose to rent.
@darrenjamrock2677
@darrenjamrock2677 Год назад
If you're landlord is watching this he'll probably put the rent up now lol!
@PropertyHubUK
@PropertyHubUK Год назад
😂 it’s only just gone up 17% -London rents are brutal!
@darrenjamrock2677
@darrenjamrock2677 Год назад
@@PropertyHubUK ya bro I live I London too, think I just jinxed myself, my landlord has just put my rent up today, it's up 28% since late 2020!
@anthonyfaucy2761
@anthonyfaucy2761 Год назад
If renting was so good the rich wouldn't be forcing a future of rent only. Its a scam end of
@tobsstone
@tobsstone Год назад
ufffffff, you are a cutie
@JMTerry1984
@JMTerry1984 Год назад
People shouldn’t be able to own more than 2 houses.
@lhefe85
@lhefe85 Год назад
Why not?
@deboraleggerini5729
@deboraleggerini5729 Год назад
Bollocks.
@Sophie-kk3st
@Sophie-kk3st Год назад
private landlords provide people with flexiblity, it's important for students, young professionals who aren't sure where to settle down yet, migrant workers this society desperately needs to function, or simply people who don't want the resposiblilties associated with owning a home. where do you expect those people to live if it's one house per person?
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