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Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) Questions University Presidents on Antisemitism 

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Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) on Tuesday pressed the presidents of the University of Pennsylvania, Harvard and MIT about rising antisemitism on college campuses and whether that speech violates their schools' codes of conduct, creating an exchange that has led to severe blowback on the presidents.
"Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or code of conduct?" Rep. Stefanik asked.
"It is a context-dependent decision," replied UPenn's Elizabeth Magill. "If the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment."
"'Conduct' meaning committing the act of genocide?" an incredulous Rep. Stefanik asked. "The speech is not harassment? This is unacceptable."
The New York Republican asked each of the university presidents the same series of questions.
"Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules on bullying and harassment?" she asked Harvard's Claudine Gay.
"It can be, depending on the context," Ms. Gay responded.
"What's the context?" Rep. Stefanik followed up.
"Targeted at an individual," the Harvard president said.
"It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals," Rep. Stefanik shot back. "Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them? Do you understand that dehumanization is part of antisemitism?"
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@psrinivasan9920
@psrinivasan9920 7 месяцев назад
Replace the word "jews" with "blacks" and you will see how all 3 will be spitting fire.
@gantz0949
@gantz0949 7 месяцев назад
💯 or Palestinians
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 7 месяцев назад
Hear! Hear!
@mickeyshooter5298
@mickeyshooter5298 7 месяцев назад
And change it to “whites” and there’d be no issue at all. They’d probably get more money.
@Larkon979
@Larkon979 7 месяцев назад
Replace it with whites and it will be celebrated
@airdenmark
@airdenmark 6 месяцев назад
The smirk on magill's face 👊
@azarel7
@azarel7 7 месяцев назад
The smiling did them in.
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
Where's the difference when you start censoring education? Education is about learning. stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@happytownesvanzandt
@happytownesvanzandt 7 месяцев назад
So pleased that Penn's largest donor Ross Stevens pulled his 100 million the hell out of there.
@MrCJHamill
@MrCJHamill 7 месяцев назад
Good on him.
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 7 месяцев назад
He can shove his dirty money up his ass. Penn is America. Ross is only here for the good times.
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
I am too. Finally Academia is decoupling from Zionist funding. This couldn’t come at a more perfect time. Now it’s time for rich Middle Eastern nations to swoop in and plug what is not even a figure that could register on their accounts. So wonderful to see in our lifetime. 🙌🏽
@Loljjkb
@Loljjkb 7 месяцев назад
Is he Jewish?
@stephj9378
@stephj9378 7 месяцев назад
He can send it to me!
@sf7709
@sf7709 7 месяцев назад
Judging from all the smirking I feel like the board of presidents spoke quite intentionally. They showed their true colors by being very biased hypocrites. Falling over themselves backtracking and apologizing is not going to save them.
@tatereno
@tatereno 7 месяцев назад
This isn’t going to hurt Penn as much as you want it to. The smirk is one you give when you’re being interrogated by an idiot who is pretending to not understand the answer you’ve given and explained too many times to have to repeat it any more times. It’s all fake second hand rage by someone who’s supposedly a devout Roman Catholic that without a doubt grew up demonizing the people she’s fake standing up for in this fake hearing. Stefanik is just the latest in the long lineup of clown shoed republican congress jokers looking for their sound bite on camera begging to become memes or campaign ads for their future opponents.
@HABY_BABY
@HABY_BABY 7 месяцев назад
True
@krisgi00710
@krisgi00710 7 месяцев назад
A hypocrite is someone like you, who shows more interest in a bogus congressional hearing on fictitious genocides while real genocide is being committed by a country you support with your tax dollars.
@unintentionalprovocateur2158
@unintentionalprovocateur2158 2 месяца назад
Or the smilrk is because her question are implicit and misleading. Good thing the smirk tells all because she didn't get a chance to say anything.
@Favorites3827
@Favorites3827 7 месяцев назад
That smirk is world-famous now! I bet the woman didn't expect this LOL
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
What a legend. She knew what she was doing. #Queen
@Versul1
@Versul1 7 месяцев назад
​@@user-jy2ci5ox9vand it cost her, her job.
@johndickson9542
@johndickson9542 7 месяцев назад
@@user-jy2ci5ox9v Well, your legend is gone. On the unemployment line now.
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
@@johndickson9542 you think she is in need of money?! 🤣 Loool. Legend. Legend. Legend. And just because the US is bent over for a good seeing to by Israel, doesn’t mean the rest of the world is. Education consultancy internationally is big business, aging far more than you lot. Lol. 🤣 The world is her oyster.
@ScaleScarborough-jq8zx
@ScaleScarborough-jq8zx 7 месяцев назад
She’ll be snuffed out by her own arrogance.
@machitect
@machitect 7 месяцев назад
I wonder what’s so funny why Ms. Liz Magill seems to be stopping herself from laughing
@gantz0949
@gantz0949 7 месяцев назад
Fr that smirk
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@hpygolkyone
@hpygolkyone 7 месяцев назад
I find it rather hilarious that a trumptard, MAGA loving, republican is bullying, talking down to and being condescending towards liberal, lunatic, female college admins who wear goofy glasses and smirk at the bullying behavior. They are laughing because Stefanik on has a BA, and they all have PhD's. The *entire lot of them out to be tarred and feathered and run out of town*
@ArthurKaletzky
@ArthurKaletzky 7 месяцев назад
It's the silliness and arrogance of Stefanik demanding a "yes" or "no". Stefanik's a Harvard alumna, but she's pandering to dumb scum in this clip. Dumb scum who'll vote for her.
@jimbanda
@jimbanda 7 месяцев назад
She ain't laughing so much now! "We" have always said that those who are happy to promote cancel culture would some day have it come to bite themselves, given it's nature I think it's a fairly logical conclusion , now SHE knows it!! I have no sympathy for her. God, bring the world to its senses please.
@becky4592
@becky4592 6 месяцев назад
What kind of “educators” are those females.
@achimbahnen
@achimbahnen 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like Hitler would be welcomed today to study at these universities.
@ahmedsalama5768
@ahmedsalama5768 7 месяцев назад
He is there in Israel. They're all carrying his DNA. Look what they're doing now lol, same as him
@cjgazerro622
@cjgazerro622 2 месяца назад
All the attributes of Hitler’s movement, we’re on the rights in Europe. All those same attributes are on the left in the United States, and the college campuses are just amplify.
@TheHenkdehondt
@TheHenkdehondt 2 месяца назад
Talking about rethoric, what's the use of remark?
@TheHenkdehondt
@TheHenkdehondt 2 месяца назад
Talking about rethoric, what's the use of remark?
@lewisengr
@lewisengr 7 месяцев назад
She's not smirking now...lol
@user-qi3wf8el7h
@user-qi3wf8el7h 7 месяцев назад
Resignations and apologies would be the only honourable course of action.
@MA-qj9vz
@MA-qj9vz 7 месяцев назад
Yes. And with no more fake, back-handed apologies.
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 7 месяцев назад
Your resignation and your apologies. Please begin.
@davidcook680
@davidcook680 7 месяцев назад
Tell you what. The only one I know for a fact won't resign or apologize. Is the bald head black woman. Bet you a million dollars she won't. If someone tells her she should. She will scream you are racist.
@wiseowl2020
@wiseowl2020 7 месяцев назад
And the resignations have begun. Magill resigned today (12/9/23). So did the chairman of the board of directors of UPenn.
@marmah740
@marmah740 7 месяцев назад
What’s up with those smirks??
@Manuel-uf6sr
@Manuel-uf6sr 7 месяцев назад
Unreal. It’s disgusting
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
Where's the difference when you start censoring education? Education is about learning. stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@HadEnough745
@HadEnough745 7 месяцев назад
Stefanik should've asked them "What is so funny? I see you smiling as if this is some kind of joke."
@jasons5916
@jasons5916 7 месяцев назад
It's because they know Stefanik is acting her outrage at their answers. At least in part. They know she doesn't give a shit about Jews or she wouldn't support Trump. But for presidents of major universities, they don't seem to be very smart because even though the questioner is over the top, you should still maintain serious composure when talking about serious subjects.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 7 месяцев назад
She is so smug and sure of herself that she smirks. FYI, she just resigned. Lol.
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
She just gained a billion fans. You think she cares? Lol. Each of them did. Far bigger opportunity for them globally. The east is rich like you can’t believe.
@MayaState
@MayaState 7 месяцев назад
@@user-jy2ci5ox9vtoxic NPC fans
@rainmanslim4611
@rainmanslim4611 7 месяцев назад
And yet these ppl are claiming antisemitism is exclusively a right wing problem.
@kylebell2365
@kylebell2365 7 месяцев назад
And yet Genocide is still a “bad thing”…yes or no? 😒🙄
@danielallan8061
@danielallan8061 7 месяцев назад
Marxists are notorious antisemites.
@tobybigham4196
@tobybigham4196 7 месяцев назад
Anti-semitism is quite a unique concept. No where in the world have they created an entire word and category for the hate, or the questioning of a race of people, other than here! And I find it more interesting that if someone admits that the Zionist launched a plan to use the Jews to annex land that doesn't belong to them. That is somehow Anti-Semitic. However, if you knew the history of Chaim Weizmann and his inner circle. These were elites who hated the working class, and used these people during a time of political upheaval, not to mention a time when Jews were being hunted. To launch an occupation campaign that was ultimately successful. And I have mad respect for pulling this whole thing off. But in the end, it only transferred power to the Elites. And they have done a horrible job governing their land. And by that, I mean they should have wiped Hamas from the face of the Earth back when it was formed! To allow them to operate unhindered as long as they have, makes me wonder what their goal was to allow a terrorist organization who wants to commit genocide to exist literally on their border.
@Idontanswerquestionz
@Idontanswerquestionz 2 месяца назад
Because it is lol, that's what's known as gaslighting. Or a strawman argument. Infada is a call to arms, not genocide. According to the ignorance of stefanik, Greg Abbott is calling for genocide when he talks about seceding from Texas from the U.S. Apparently any political disagreement is now hate speech against Jews according to the "Jews will not replace us" crowd. It's absurd.
@kmain0
@kmain0 7 месяцев назад
Man she blew up her entire career in minutes lol... thats harsh. Hey Magill calls for genocide for Jewish people is indeed unacceptable. So a simple "yes" would have sufficed. If Elise had said "Does calling for the genocide of black people violate MIT's rules for harassment, yes/no"... I'm sure they'd get a swift yes.
@Ffiffijs
@Ffiffijs 7 месяцев назад
Yea right. I guess u don’t know they took mat turner’s brain to Harvard after killing him and black people are the real Jews so of course they should defend
@zaydevans2077
@zaydevans2077 7 месяцев назад
Would you say intifada is a call for the genocide of all Jews? If so, there was 1000 Jews killed in the 10 years of intifada. There has been 7000 Palestinian kids killed in the last 8 weeks… Is nothing Israel says a call to genocide of the Palestinians?
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
Not really. All of a sudden Billions of pro Palestinians know their names now. You think you’re the only country where people can do well? The Middle East and Far East are rich like you couldn’t imagine. They have incredible consulting and management roles if they want them now. The news we have read has called them hero’s. You stay in your little bubble. It’s better that way. 🤣 Whilst the rest of the world wakes up to the Israeli and Jewish lobby in action. Perpetuating every stereotype we now know to be true. 🙌🏽 Kanye West wasn’t wrong. 👀
@_truthBtold
@_truthBtold 2 месяца назад
You’d be surprised how many folks still hate black people, I’d figure it’d be way more apparent especially in 🇺🇸 that blacks as an entire community are obviously still more hated than anyone Jewish. Like an instant as soon as you see them type of hate because it’s so obvious in America because of the color of their skin. Both are wrong but don’t be so sure if yourself that folks would easily dismiss the genocide of blacks and as far as the President of Harvard being a black woman to even ask her that question would be an obvious issue so I doubt she’d even be ask your hypothetical question. But to insinuate definitively that across the board EVERY university President in the country or involved would answer with a resounding “yes” if it were blacks, shows just how unaware of things you really are in the 🇺🇸. I see on a daily, weekly, monthly, yearly basis that they are still the most and tenured discriminated group of people in that country from their day 1 there. Systematically, judicially, educationally, financially, demographically, you name it, that in itself is a slow drag generational genocide for them in that country. The Jewish community propers in that country for the most part in all of those categories. So again don’t be too sure of yourself that people would be answering yes to that so confidently.
@nonchantereo
@nonchantereo 7 месяцев назад
Free speech is context dependant. Be free to speak all of your opinions, but your opinions may determine your fitness for a role in society, which is the case every day for everyone.
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
Where's the difference when you start censoring education? Education is about learning. stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 7 месяцев назад
Almost there. Yes, this is part of it. But that is court of public opinion. The Representative should be censured for using their chair to oversee and enforce their opinion by using code of conduct rules as proxy for oversight when, in fact, she is violating the First Amendment by doing so.
@jaknap1
@jaknap1 7 месяцев назад
America should remove the freedom of speech amendment from constitution as that no longer exists in America. Both parties have no ethics or balls to stand up to right and left crazies.
@stephj9378
@stephj9378 7 месяцев назад
ONLY if the same standards are used for all.
@wa1ufo
@wa1ufo 7 месяцев назад
This may be free speech but it is a gross abuse of it. It is HATE SPEECH and should not be tolerated. Words can cause cataclysmic damage. Hitler is a perfect example.
@Antishyster2
@Antishyster2 7 месяцев назад
Perfect example of becoming what you hate ?
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 7 месяцев назад
They already were. And no, not the religion or the people. The leaders doing it and billionaires backing them.
@jaylaw.7660
@jaylaw.7660 7 месяцев назад
So true!!
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@_truthBtold
@_truthBtold 2 месяца назад
@@jayce8001the leaders and billionaires are Jewish though 😂 statistically Jewish people made up 30% of the richest 100 people in America. As far back as 2009 they had 139 people on Forbes 400, to put that in perspective as recent as 2017 there was only 2 black people on that list and 5 were Hispanic. That’s the crème de la crème right there if I say so myself lol that’s not accounting for regular millionaires either you know the $2 million - $250 million earners if I took an educated guess I’d take they take up a significant % of that group as well based on the previously established factual statistics; you don’t become high earners like that without being a leader already and once you peak one place they tend to look to lead in other places as well. 🤷‍♂️ just saying.
@cjgazerro622
@cjgazerro622 2 месяца назад
To be part of the left, you have to be a single woman or very big and unattractive angry. Want to hurt people that don’t agree with you and you hate people because of uncontrollable attributes.
@BillyJr68
@BillyJr68 7 месяцев назад
It's rare that I find myself in total agreement with a MAGA republican. But the smug and dismissive demeanor in which the university presidents displayed while answering, or in this case, not really answering, the questions is what struck me as most infuriating.
@Jmaters83
@Jmaters83 7 месяцев назад
They did answer the question, and appropriately so. It's content dependent. Saying "intifada" does not automatically mean "kill the jews." Same goes for the chant of "from the River to the Sea." It's content dependent. And 90% of the time, it's NOT... I repeat NOT used within antisemitic content. That MAGA trash lady only wanted cheap political points. And it looks like she got them out of you.
@tatereno
@tatereno 7 месяцев назад
Remember that these presidents were served up on a platter with canned answers by their handlers. Call it smug all you want. Smugness happens when you’re being interrogated by an idiot who is pretending to not understand the answer you’ve given and explained too many times to have to repeat it any more times. It’s all fake second hand rage by someone who’s supposedly a devout Roman Catholic that without a doubt grew up demonizing the people she’s fake standing up for in this fake hearing. Stefanik is just the latest in the long lineup of clown shoed republican congress jokers looking for their sound bite on camera begging to become memes or campaign ads for their future opponents. I’m not saying I agree with these answers. They’re playing the long game by not lining themselves up to have their answers spun on them by the clowns asking the questions.
@benjaminrusso7252
@benjaminrusso7252 7 месяцев назад
And this is the smug, nonsensical, and ultimately racist “tolerant” Left we Conservatives have been decrying for years.
@BillyJr68
@BillyJr68 7 месяцев назад
@@benjaminrusso7252 and not just conservatives. Bill Maher has been talking about it for years.
@Jmaters83
@Jmaters83 7 месяцев назад
@@benjaminrusso7252 Conservatism is where racism shelters. Those University presidents gave a perfectly acceptable answer. But because Stefanik wants to score cheap political points while pretending to care about Jews, and punching down on Palestinians, she pretended to be outraged. She's the racist, she's the antisemite, and she's a conservative.
@teenyverse7707
@teenyverse7707 7 месяцев назад
🤣🤣🤣.... all these lawyers want to tiptoe on context without actually analyzing what's being said...
@Steelologist
@Steelologist 7 месяцев назад
All three should resign, but more importantly, Congress needs to investigate who coached these women to give practically identical statements. This sounds like some kind of coordinated effort and we need to know who's behind this.
@robforrester3727
@robforrester3727 7 месяцев назад
That is already known. One lawyer coached all three of them, which is in no way illegal. It is why the responses were so legalistic too: they have to follow rules. Elise Stefanik gets to just yell things.
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
Like congress should investigate the Jewish Israeli lobby you mean? 🤣
@Steelologist
@Steelologist 7 месяцев назад
@@user-jy2ci5ox9v Your comment makes no sense. Why would anyone want to investigate a group that had nothing to do with this hearing? Perhaps you should watch the video before commenting.
@silverwolf6866
@silverwolf6866 7 месяцев назад
"they have to follow rules" What rules do these terrorist groomers they have to follow?
@PrayinforTexas
@PrayinforTexas 7 месяцев назад
Yes!
@helenerickson2195
@helenerickson2195 7 месяцев назад
Their hemming & hawing over a simple question was beyond belief. Their arrogance looked stupid in exposing their plain evil.
@lucasaustin9872
@lucasaustin9872 7 месяцев назад
They answered intelligently. It's unsurprising you're unable to grasp the distinction. And they'd all still have jobs if they'd been able to control their facial expressions
@richardmcleod1930
@richardmcleod1930 7 месяцев назад
Liz McGill may have resigned as President, BUT she is not out and will remain on the Faculty eventually receiving a very hefty Pension when she retires. Don't worry about Liz McGill or Claudine Gay at Harvard. They are in a protected class all by themselves.
@tailgunnerrich592
@tailgunnerrich592 7 месяцев назад
Why does McGill have a smirk on her face?
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
Because she knows after this she’ll be a legend to Billions of others. You guys think you ate with asking her these Zionist lobby driven questions? Everybody saw through them.
@MoMoneyMark501
@MoMoneyMark501 7 месяцев назад
Can anyone point me towards a link were students are calling for the “g” word at any one of these university’s?
@brendanmiller2268
@brendanmiller2268 7 месяцев назад
Apparently calling for genocide doesn't amount to harassment or intimidation
@dovbarleib3256
@dovbarleib3256 7 месяцев назад
If you called for the genocide of Arabs or Blacks, Campus Police would throw you off the Campus or put you in jail. Calling for the genocide of Jews on the same campuses would not result in the same outcome.
@tore705
@tore705 7 месяцев назад
Stefanik is very angry. She also lied.
@panthergal7399
@panthergal7399 7 месяцев назад
Dispicable..no shame
@keithjoseph7433
@keithjoseph7433 7 месяцев назад
This is so shocking, How could any person want to send their children to schools that think like this.
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
You’re right. If you’re a Jewish please don’t send your kids to these institutions. Win win for all. Finally. 🙌🏽
@realitypreferred7084
@realitypreferred7084 7 месяцев назад
The schools don't think anything. I think you misunderstand what school/education is. I wonder why. (No, I don't).
@8House
@8House 7 месяцев назад
​@@realitypreferred7084Yes they do think like that. Wokeness leads to calls for genocide which leads to actual genocide. American universities for the most part are indoctrination centers.
@JayJay-tm7xw
@JayJay-tm7xw 7 месяцев назад
She just resigned.
@lucasaustin9872
@lucasaustin9872 7 месяцев назад
Schools that think logically and protect free speech? The HORROR!!!1!!1
@jessicajnsm
@jessicajnsm 7 месяцев назад
While the questions at face value, without context and implications, are "easy" to answer, I can very much understand why a public figure would be hesitant to answer considering so many people now conflate being pro-Palestinian with being "antisemitic" or "pro-genocide" when that is simply not true. I think we can agree, most people are against genocide except those hungry for power. But the presidents are probably scared to block themselves in a corner because Ms. Stefanik might later imply that speaking out against Israel is genocidal and then say any student who does should be removed from campus.
@rudyavila1825
@rudyavila1825 7 месяцев назад
Please explain how genocide can be put in context to justify it?
@cobbler9113
@cobbler9113 7 месяцев назад
I’m sorry, but if she asked this about Black people or Native Americans rather than Jews, these same people would fall over themselves to be the first to say “yes”. Why the immense and blatant hypocrisy?
@lucasaustin9872
@lucasaustin9872 7 месяцев назад
​@@rudyavila1825 It's free speech. Universities have long had policies that protect a student's right to free speech, as long as it isn't used to intimidate or bully other students. Darling of the right Nick Fuentes for example, who has spoke at Trump events, attended the Unite the Right ally that marched around calling for "one people, one nation" and chanting "Jews will not replace us." He was allowed to keep attending the university.. because free speech is protected, even when abhorrent.
@jasons5916
@jasons5916 7 месяцев назад
I think the correct reply would be "Yes calling for genocide against Jews is unacceptable and against conduct rules at the university." As long as it is (if not you just leave that part out and you'll have to answer why it's not). If Stefanik then asks if students will be punished for it, then you say you are investigating, which would be true if there were actual calls for genocide on campuses and those people were harassing Jewish students. If the Reps try to define intifada or "River to the sea" as calling for genocide, then you can argue that's not really what those phrases mean and protesting against a foreign country's government is not antisemitic. But if students were threatening Jewish students, they should definitely be punished for that.
@omartinoco9930
@omartinoco9930 7 месяцев назад
Free speech is not for free. It has consequences as we are finding out here. Very expensive consequences.
@tigersforever4577
@tigersforever4577 7 месяцев назад
This is the latest buzzword in education: context dependent.
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 7 месяцев назад
Context, nuance, and any brainpower use at all is lacking in the right wing. So, yeah. You just had a moment of self awareness.
@MH-ro1lg
@MH-ro1lg 7 месяцев назад
You can tell she's a democrat by how she is loath to punish any students calling for the gen...... of jews.
@tylerw5356
@tylerw5356 7 месяцев назад
​@kristoduka8012 Yes. Because she's asking specifically about a university policy of harassment and bullying and that has parameters that specify what is considered harassment and what is not. They made it clear. Their code of conduct is ABOUT conduct, not opinion. Carrying out a direct action against others, not making a hateful general statement of opinion on a group/religion/race/sexuality.
@tylerw5356
@tylerw5356 7 месяцев назад
@@kristoduka8012 of course its not ok. But it isn't a moral question. It would be awful for someone to say this. The question was, is that considered harassment at these universities. Their answer reflected the code of conduct....it does not. It is difficult to answer "no" and accept that someone can say horrible things and not face consequences for it. But these women are trying to represent the university COC truthfully. An incident cannot be considered harassment without context and conduct being considered.
@fumblerooskie
@fumblerooskie 7 месяцев назад
What's up with that silly smirk on Magill's face? This isn't funny.
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
because stafanik doesn't give two $$$hts about anyone. listen to her voice - self righteous bullying, and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@Anonymous-pm7jf
@Anonymous-pm7jf 7 месяцев назад
It's the correct response to the answer. She's probably baffled by the Jew bought representative's persistent questioning.
@fumblerooskie
@fumblerooskie 7 месяцев назад
@@Anonymous-pm7jf A smirk is the correct answer? To who? Bigots?
@VelvetJazz
@VelvetJazz 7 месяцев назад
Magill is despicable, that evil smirk…🤮
@Versul1
@Versul1 7 месяцев назад
She went bye-bye
@lowspeed2000
@lowspeed2000 7 месяцев назад
Gay had a smirk too, they all did. Disgusting.
@MrCJHamill
@MrCJHamill 7 месяцев назад
Hopefully all donors either pull their money from these Universities or simply stop donating in future.
@mikey2603
@mikey2603 7 месяцев назад
These 3 think they are above everyone else.
@PrayinforTexas
@PrayinforTexas 7 месяцев назад
One more thought. You know what's most concerning about this: There are several million voters who will hear sound bites and think that a judge from The Voice was somehow on a panel question university presidents. And they will not give the matter any more thought.
@kalan4787
@kalan4787 7 месяцев назад
The only thing I wish Rep. Stefanik had done differently would have been to ask Dr. Gay if calling for the genocide of Blacks constituted a violation of Harvard's code of conduct after she went on the record as saying that calling for the genocide of Jews "depended upon the context."
@Daash27
@Daash27 7 месяцев назад
She did in some other clip. I don't know why that part isn't included here.
@Ffiffijs
@Ffiffijs 7 месяцев назад
Blacks are the real Jews and everybody who doesn’t accept that is a race traitor
@hippygirlfriend4937
@hippygirlfriend4937 7 месяцев назад
Could you send me the link
@susanmarie03
@susanmarie03 7 месяцев назад
⁠@@hippygirlfriend4937just Google the entire hearing and forward to the different times Stefanick questioned them. She did indeed ask that question and Gay skirted the issue. Basically didnt answer.
@robforrester3727
@robforrester3727 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, you racist twat. I bet.
@tylerw5356
@tylerw5356 7 месяцев назад
People are allowed to have horrible opinions. It's an american right. You can hate any kind of person you want, wish them dead, and say it out loud. That isn't harassment. They answered her question. A publicly stated opinion is not the same as harassment. You can be racist and go to college. You can hate gay people and go to college and you can voice that opinion. What you can't do is turn it into action. You cant target individuals. You cant attack them physically. You cant threaten them personally. You cant yell antisemitic slurs in their face. That's direct intimidation. She's asking a hypothetical question, and they are answering with a written code of conduct that has specific parameters for what constitutes as bullying and harassment. Not liking the answer does not make these women antisemitic. It's not a personal question, it's a question about policy.
@ariyanbista5837
@ariyanbista5837 7 месяцев назад
this is such a stupid view. You understand it's a fckinnn university right? Students go there to gain knowledge under a safe environment. You can hate people outside as much as you like but actively hating certain races under university premises is one of the fastest ways to increase hate crimes in the US. Also, the question isn't about hating. It clearly says "asking for genocide of Jewish people" essentially meaning killing Jewish people and you believe people can walk around preaching those views on a university. Are you crazy?
@elizabethhenning778
@elizabethhenning778 7 месяцев назад
​@@ariyanbista5837Define exactly what you think it means for someone to "call for the genocide of Jews."
@jimmyroberts5907
@jimmyroberts5907 7 месяцев назад
Yeah but "silence is violence" to the same fucking people when it comes to trans, black, Asian, lgbtq+.... what a joke
@OnlyintheER
@OnlyintheER 7 месяцев назад
You are just as antisemitic as those left wing nut job "professors"
@philipskalla4312
@philipskalla4312 3 месяца назад
Are you really saying that if a student publicly calls for the extermination of all coloured people in America, no action should be taken against him?
@robertcoker5626
@robertcoker5626 7 месяцев назад
"Unacceptable answers across the board!" The testimony of these individuals is sickening.
@chrisreed3572
@chrisreed3572 7 месяцев назад
Why?
@justinfowler5761
@justinfowler5761 7 месяцев назад
​@@chrisreed3572if you don't know, then there is no reason to explain it to you.
@justinfowler5761
@justinfowler5761 7 месяцев назад
Saying it ok to call for the genocide of a people is ok, unless you aren't actively genociding? If someone was calling for the genocide of trans people you would be losing your shit.
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
It wasn’t sickening. It was perfect. A political response to a political question.
@chrisreed3572
@chrisreed3572 7 месяцев назад
@@justinfowler5761 Brainwashed much?
@liquid_shadow8690
@liquid_shadow8690 7 месяцев назад
Look at those smirks. They think they’re so clever.
@pbh9195
@pbh9195 7 месяцев назад
Jesus I saw this earlier but from a different camera angle and had no idea she was smirking.
@MA-qj9vz
@MA-qj9vz 7 месяцев назад
Rep Stefanik is a hero! I'm a Democrat but thank her for taking action to stop this racist, double-speak and the danger it's created for Jewish students.
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@RonaldTolar-pg8uh
@RonaldTolar-pg8uh 7 месяцев назад
Definition of Hypocracy = "" Cancel Culture bad, bad "" !! But let's Cancel them !!!!
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 7 месяцев назад
Uh no, not a hero. You are a bot and no actual Democrat would say anything you just said.
@bsupernova9807
@bsupernova9807 7 месяцев назад
@@V3ganM3at give this a read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymological_fallacy#Occurrence_and_examples
@Baku-oc5fc
@Baku-oc5fc 7 месяцев назад
Time for you to also become a hero yourself and vote/become a Republican.
@ABC_DEF
@ABC_DEF 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely astonishing. These three women can't see anything wrong with people on their campuses calling for the murder of their Jewish students. But if they were asked about whether calling for the annihilation of black people was a violation of their rules, you know they would NOT answer, "Well, it depends what the context was."
@wa1ufo
@wa1ufo 7 месяцев назад
Exactly!
@YuzimaPhilip
@YuzimaPhilip 7 месяцев назад
Yet you don't have a problem with Stephanik and Trump hosting Holocaust Deniers at Mar-O- Lago; Hypocrite. Or anti-Semite Kanye West.
@n10dkf
@n10dkf 7 месяцев назад
Where is the evidence of anyone on any of these three campuses calling for anything that you mentioned? Show us the evidence.
@BenWex
@BenWex 7 месяцев назад
@n10dkf there's plenty of evidence of people calling for the genocide of Israel/Jewish people, but it's completely besides the fact. Something can still be absolutely unacceptable even if it didn't happen yet. Moron
@richardchason
@richardchason 7 месяцев назад
There is still such a thing as freedom of speech in America, even if the expressed idea is abhorrent. Threats and harrassment are not protected by free speech. The expression of an ideology, no matter how vile the ideology, must be protected in a truly free society. I am a proud Jew and despise calls of genocide against Jews, but as long as these calls are expressions of an idea and not threats of violence or acts of harrassment, I still uphold that notion that "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." Threats against freedom of speech from all sides of the political spectrum are terrifying me in America today.
@gregorioio
@gregorioio 7 месяцев назад
I too am a Jew and agree with you. I am saddened by the 2 bit McCarthyism on display here. Not in my name.
@denizkacan8007
@denizkacan8007 7 месяцев назад
This is also my exact view on the subject.
@robforrester3727
@robforrester3727 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for nuance.
@PrayinforTexas
@PrayinforTexas 7 месяцев назад
Very True. But the question is specifically about university policy, not the definition of the First Amendment. And simple: Calling for genocide, anytime, anywhere should not be free speech. So my defense of free speech stops at that, and down right lies. Public calls for violence are not nuanced.
@BenWex
@BenWex 7 месяцев назад
I too am a Jew bla bla my comment carries more weight because of it bla bla. A. It's not about freedom of speech as much as it is about the double standard and how universities nowadays are known for famously putting down free speech when it comes from conservatives and labeling even the smallest things like calling a trans woman a man as hate speech. If universities were at least consistent and said yeah it's ok to call for the genocide of Jews as well as black people or trans people then fine. If free speech is to allow calling for the murder of random civilians no matter who they are, then fine. But somehow it seems only ok if it's Jewish people. B. It's not actually really fine. I'm all for free speech and allowing mean and offensive things to be said. I think it's critical to allow it. But this is people calling for mass murder of Jews. I don't know why you would defend that, even just as a human. They're calling for you and me to be killed, and you can't speak for yourself but don't expect me to just go along with people wanting to kill me
@Stud_muffin
@Stud_muffin 7 месяцев назад
To me there is a difference between free speech and rhetoric. Calling for the genocide of anyone, is an act, no different than yelling "fire" in a movie theater. Her response of "if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harrassment" before there is any action taken is crazy. As Stefanik said, "Conduct meaning the act of genocide?" Excellent response, and incredible that a university president could be splitting hairs on this.
@robforrester3727
@robforrester3727 7 месяцев назад
Well, you'd need to believe that anyone who supports the Palestinian people is for the genocide of Jewish people, which isn't true.
@Dragon_Lord4_Sure
@Dragon_Lord4_Sure 7 месяцев назад
I know. Like speaking in front of a building and using words that rile up people, rile them into a violent frenzy. Then turn loose those people on that building and they do get violent. I totally agree with you. Those people need to held accountable
@goodcomrade4231
@goodcomrade4231 7 месяцев назад
Your post is embarrassing, as it reveals you have no understanding of the difference between the law and school code of conduct. Hint: one does not need to violate the law in order to violate the code of conduct. Stud you ain't, not intellectually for sure.
@Stud_muffin
@Stud_muffin 7 месяцев назад
@@goodcomrade4231 Mayhaps you read the post wrong? I was not referring to breaking the law by shouting fire, I was using an analogy of using words can do harm, without actually doing anything physically. Yelling fire in a theater will likely cause panic and therefore injuries, just as calling for genocide can erupt into someone being attacked and therefore injured. Why the need for you to lash out; I have no idea.
@jasons5916
@jasons5916 7 месяцев назад
Shouting fire when there isn't one in a crowded movie theater (or less crowded) is illegal because it directly leads to people getting injured when everyone rushes to get out. Calling for genocide of a people doesn't end in anyone getting hurt unless the person doing it has the power to make it happen. It's bad no matter what, but a random guy on the street saying "Let's kill all the x" to a bunch of random people walking by is not violating any law in the US. If the president of the US said the same thing to a group of followers who then went out and killed a bunch of people, then that would be illegal.
@alittleexcursion2885
@alittleexcursion2885 7 месяцев назад
For the answer to be Yes or No, the person who asks must be a bully
@carlsonaar
@carlsonaar 5 месяцев назад
Did I hear this right? I swear they straight up said that in order for student's behavior to violate the codes of conduct, they would have to actually commit genocide. Until the students start killing, it's all just harmless free speech, and can't be punished. It's like arguing that if some people are getting together every night and talking about a planned bank robbery, they haven't done anything wrong until they show up at the bank with guns drawn. Talking about a planned bank robbery is not protected free speech, and neither is calling for the genocide of any group.
@philipskalla4312
@philipskalla4312 3 месяца назад
Assuming that they are making serious plans for an actual robbery ,then they have already broken the law.
@carlsonaar
@carlsonaar 3 месяца назад
@@philipskalla4312 Exactly.
@chrispatterson9689
@chrispatterson9689 7 месяцев назад
Can someone remind the congress woman there is the first amendment. if its not directed at a student or anyone its their right to say what ever they want. Harvard and Penn state know their laws. this congresswomen knows this.
@DavesGuitarPlanet
@DavesGuitarPlanet 7 месяцев назад
Right
@linkphan761
@linkphan761 7 месяцев назад
So calls for Jewish genocide are not directed at the Jews? Also calls for genocide are not protected by the first amendment.
@Watcher6868
@Watcher6868 7 месяцев назад
She is on an obese power trip. A very confused and utterly biased person. I’m surprised she’s even in congress. She should resign or be thrown out like Santos the “credible god”
@suzib10
@suzib10 7 месяцев назад
Can someone tell you to go back and revisit your high school Civics course? The 1st Amendment is not carte blanche to say whatever the hell you like. Many things are NOT protected by the 1st Amendment. Obscenity, child pornography, speech about illegal conduct, speech that incites 'imminent lawless action' are a few types of speech that aren't protected. There are copyright protections, as well as PROTECTIONS AGAINST POTENTIAL VIOLENCE. People cannot just say 'whatever they want'. And then you have a Code of Ethics at private universities on top of that. And a university should have a code that makes blatant calls for GENOCIDE a violation, at the very LEAST. So sorry to disappoint you, you'll have to scream for the eradication of the Jewish people maybe from the privacy of your own home.
@cmilla1003
@cmilla1003 7 месяцев назад
can someone remind you that doesnt apply to private institutions. They are not charging people with a crime. Free speech applies to us regarding being charged or punished by the government. Universities are private institutions that have their own code of conduct and rules. Calling for a genocide is not only an actual calling of action but it also clearly is against their code of conduct and rules against hate speech, bullying, etc. You need to learn what is being discussed.
@2ndMillenniumMuslim
@2ndMillenniumMuslim 7 месяцев назад
"Ok, everyone -- I am opening the floor for perspectives on this topic, and I will not argue or complain, however unusual the responses may be. So, here is my view: the context is almost always integral, as it is here. Can we agree that genocide is morally abhorrent? If you sense an implicit trap in my question, perhaps that indicates an unwillingness to directly address the issue. A straightforward, thoughtful response places a burden of responsibility on the person asking the question, does it not? It's not about attacking anyone's character or motives - it's about having an open and honest dialogue. Does that seem reasonable?
@kathleenparker9297
@kathleenparker9297 7 месяцев назад
? 🙄
@chatham43
@chatham43 7 месяцев назад
Is genocide acceptable? Depends on the context!
@articulatingprimate6980
@articulatingprimate6980 7 месяцев назад
And why adults don't understand how to answer "Yes" or "No"....my children are capable of it....
@italia689
@italia689 4 месяца назад
Those college presidents were trying to look "professional" by giving "scholarly" answers. If all they did was answer affirmatively or negatively, Stefanik would be an afterthought; now she is known all over, and is suddenly a "rising star."
@NRPax
@NRPax 7 месяцев назад
Every single one of those women knew that if they said it was unacceptable they were going to be asked why it was tolerated. And I'm willing to bet that if there had been a call for the elimination of black people on campus, there would never be a "But Muh Context!" argument.
@wa1ufo
@wa1ufo 7 месяцев назад
Yes!
@annecarlton1878
@annecarlton1878 7 месяцев назад
By the way, protesters did not call for genocide of Jews. They called out Israel for "genocide" in Palestine. It's not bullying or harrassment when it's not directed at an individual. Protesting an unscrupulous war against civilians is free speech. Most religious people are spiritual and peaceful. So it is not antisemetic to object to war and aggression by any country.
@ibrahimsaab
@ibrahimsaab 7 месяцев назад
No body called for genocide
@ayeletcooperberg8372
@ayeletcooperberg8372 Месяц назад
Every time I feel badly that I didn’t get into Penn I just watch this video
@donbemont7901
@donbemont7901 7 месяцев назад
Never heard or saw Elise Stefanik previously. I am repulsed by her bullying style and self-righteousness. To make matters worse, she is a conservative, yes? So she ought to be especially aware of the dangers of suppressing unpopular speech on college campuses -- which means that university officials MUST make nuanced distinctions between speech that is an actual threat and speech opponents simply dislike strongly. I'm far from sure that these university presidents are making the calls correctly. Like most people here, I have no first hand knowledge of what happened on the campuses. But I sure know Stefanik for a grandstander based on this. Both the left and the right need to be very careful about rewarding politicians who try to score points by calling for shutting down speech.
@rudyperez1772
@rudyperez1772 7 месяцев назад
Update: At least one of these presidents has resigned. Again, great job Elise calling out this racism. Depends on the context, What stinking context because racism is just that - racism. A toast to Elise Stefanic🥂. That being said, call out trump for 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼 “Trump defends 2017 'very fine people' comments, calls Robert E. Lee 'a great general'President Donald Trump maintained he "answered perfectly" when he said there were "very fine people on both sides" of clashes at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.Jacquelyn Martin/AP” Racism is Racism, Right, Elise Stefanic?
@johnhiggins7970
@johnhiggins7970 7 месяцев назад
All they had to do was answer “yes or no” to the question. But it seemed they had the same talking part, curious, as if they were coached
@DavesGuitarPlanet
@DavesGuitarPlanet 7 месяцев назад
Well said, @donbemont7901
@usaunited7332
@usaunited7332 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like you are ok with genocide.
@silverswordstudios7334
@silverswordstudios7334 7 месяцев назад
I have no love for MAGA or the GOP in general, but Representative Stefanik here is hitting the nail on the head.
@danrode104
@danrode104 7 месяцев назад
How?
@NorayDom
@NorayDom 7 месяцев назад
Genocide is contextual? How about a return to legalized slavery - contextual as well?
@lightningpop8717
@lightningpop8717 7 месяцев назад
Salary: $1, 000, 000 a year Answers: maybe it's not unless therefore possibly not
@tsukie11
@tsukie11 7 месяцев назад
Magill was smirking then and I’m all smiles now that she had to resign.
@chrispatterson9689
@chrispatterson9689 7 месяцев назад
well, she had to say that because if she didn't she could be sued for impeaching on someone's right to free speech. because its free speech until you direct it at an individual.
@chrispatterson9689
@chrispatterson9689 7 месяцев назад
congress women was just looking for a way to get her name out there. and look she did, it took months to get mark Zuckerberg in the court house it took them 2 days to get those two reps in. this is a misdirection.
@philipskalla4312
@philipskalla4312 3 месяца назад
@@chrispatterson9689 I did not know that calling for genocide is protected by freedom of speech.
@tdz69
@tdz69 7 месяцев назад
Amazing to witness distinguished careers be extinguished. Three stooges up there.
@jessicak.2465
@jessicak.2465 7 месяцев назад
Getting the popcorn warmed up now 🍿
@Guy-Lewis
@Guy-Lewis 7 месяцев назад
In essence, each is saying that calls for genocide are acceptable. There could not worse come in their places. Meanwhile, American "Universities" are beset by melting-flake hysteria over imagined slights.
@saaji55
@saaji55 7 месяцев назад
Well, this reminds me of the Inquisition sessions back in the medieval ages!
@kumabreed6386
@kumabreed6386 7 месяцев назад
How so?
@CrystolW88
@CrystolW88 7 месяцев назад
I'm so very shocked by this comment (not hardly).
@saaji55
@saaji55 7 месяцев назад
She's a real #%$*, biased, intimidating, and ignorant person. Re what I meant, inquisition campaigns where led by exactly same mentalities like hers. To stop the wheel of science, free speech, logic-and overall; freedom. Nevertheless it was one of the biggest fails in the history of Europe at that time. What her-type of senators does is a shame and stupid alignment with Zionism.
@chikkiboom4687
@chikkiboom4687 7 месяцев назад
It’s because people are saying that stating “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free” is calling for genocide. And protests on campus calling for a ceasefire have been labeled antisemetic. School meetings not allowing Zionists have been called antisemetic. So it really is context dependent cause none of those things are calling for genocide or are anti-S
@realitypreferred7084
@realitypreferred7084 7 месяцев назад
Ms Stefanik has no idea that she is ignorant? Say it isn't so! Of COURSE the context matters! As it does with everything!
@silverwolf6866
@silverwolf6866 7 месяцев назад
No it doesn't. Context would not matter if they were targeting blacks using the n* word. Go back to sipping your soy milk
@lalalol36
@lalalol36 7 месяцев назад
Funny that they are sooooo angry but if Elon Musk does it they are cool with it.
@leonardsmith2198
@leonardsmith2198 7 месяцев назад
Seventeen times she refused to answer honestly!
@janetc3707
@janetc3707 7 месяцев назад
There is no "honest" answer to loaded questions and fictional accusations.
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
Where's the difference when you start censoring education? Education is about learning. stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@Anonymous-pm7jf
@Anonymous-pm7jf 7 месяцев назад
I'm truly surprised you can count that high
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 7 месяцев назад
17 times she stood her ground.
@cogitoergosum9069
@cogitoergosum9069 7 месяцев назад
For all those saying, "the constitution protects free speech", no one in the video was contesting the students' constitutional rights. This was about whether the students' actions should be considered harassment/bullying under the code of conduct of these universities.
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means, just like one has a right to shoot people, one has a right to say anything except yelling fire in a crowded movie house. I am not a fan of a 2nd amendment with no boundaries, but you will when censorship is made law you will get to shoot me if I say something you don't like, so what is the point here?
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 7 месяцев назад
Not the job of congres to oversee that. That would be actually violating the first amendment.
@robforrester3727
@robforrester3727 7 месяцев назад
And they attempted to explain the difference between speech and conduct. But they were effectively shouted down by an idiot.
@wa1ufo
@wa1ufo 7 месяцев назад
Hate Speech is what it was, plain and simple.
@cmilla1003
@cmilla1003 7 месяцев назад
@@jayce8001 no it actually is not when they were asked to investigate the matter by jewish students. When a university creates and uses a code of conduct yet blatantly disregards it when it comes to one thing, it can absolutely be investigated under discrimination of a protected class such as religion or race. They are not charging students for this speech, they are holding a university accountable to not enforcing a clear policy when it comes to jewish students who are being harassed and bullied. Again, I will sum this up for you. The speech itself is not under question by the government. It is the choice by Universities to ignore/allow a clear call to action of genocide against a protected class and their choices to invite speakers who use this language on campuses that get tax dollar funding. Please do some research and throw your biases out the window when making comments. It is clear you currently cant do that.
@Michelle-bc7tl
@Michelle-bc7tl 7 месяцев назад
How f-ing hard is it to respond to a question like this? I mean for Gods sake, what if the question was directed at the black or transgender communities?!? I wonder how much “context” would matter if people were calling for their extermination on campus?
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
because stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@HadEnough745
@HadEnough745 7 месяцев назад
Because antisemitic groups give them millions of dollars...These phony presidents can't go against them
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 7 месяцев назад
Uh... legal matters? No one can make an official statement for a grandstanding politician without consultation from lawyers.
@ArthurKaletzky
@ArthurKaletzky 7 месяцев назад
It's hard because Stefanik was intentionally asking a misleading, irrelevant and extremely hypothetical question. There were no calls for "genocide of Jews" reported on any campus. There were calls for intifada, an uprising against Israeli Zionist oppression, occupation, colonialism and militarism, and against Israel's legislated Jewish Ascendancy (c.f. Protestant Ascendancy in N. Ireland). I'm not a US citizen, but I cannot disagree with whoever said Stefanik should be censured for bullying witnesses.
@OnlyintheER
@OnlyintheER 7 месяцев назад
​@@jayce8001shut up punk
@saliker4491
@saliker4491 7 месяцев назад
Upside down world we’re living in so sad!
@BlazeDuskdreamer
@BlazeDuskdreamer 6 месяцев назад
For once, I'm not embarassed by a politician from my state.
@cjgazerro622
@cjgazerro622 2 месяца назад
That’s because most of the Democrats
@kspice2803
@kspice2803 7 месяцев назад
Colleges are so fucked up right now. Talk about groupthink.
@kevinjenner9502
@kevinjenner9502 7 месяцев назад
Harvard Political Review..Barack Obama is a War Criminal
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
Where's the difference when you start censoring education? Education is about learning. stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@mickeyshooter5298
@mickeyshooter5298 7 месяцев назад
Soon enough they will implements the two minutes hate, with a photo of Donald.
@avnitchopra2717
@avnitchopra2717 7 месяцев назад
Gobbles & Himmler would be immensely proud of Liz Macgil.. if they're alive today.
@michael57603
@michael57603 7 месяцев назад
Very impressed with Rep Stefanik's tough questioning and having moral clarity that eludes the leaders of three of the top universities in the US.
@bijosn
@bijosn 7 месяцев назад
these universities are funded by Qatar which also funds hamas...so no surprises
@krisgi00710
@krisgi00710 7 месяцев назад
Right. Because, for you, this is less about clarification and more about "eluding" people to try and show that we are smarter than them. Extra points if those people are women and one or more of them is Black.
@pastorpage2269
@pastorpage2269 6 месяцев назад
Stefanik acts as if she has a moral leg to stand on, she doesn't. Look at her past decisions and statements, she's a Trump follower.
@Dilldough.
@Dilldough. 7 месяцев назад
Imagine if students were calling for the deaths of the LGBT community or even just speaking out against it.
@rudyperez1772
@rudyperez1772 7 месяцев назад
That’s probably next if these bozo presidents remain anywhere near a school.
@timpark1
@timpark1 7 месяцев назад
These women are presidents of our best colleges. Wtf!!! Are u serious... what is wrong with them.
@nilla003
@nilla003 7 месяцев назад
What happens if someone gets "misgendered"?
@Ainzleeriddell
@Ainzleeriddell 7 месяцев назад
Why is Magill smirking? She’s odious.
@justaddafan
@justaddafan 7 месяцев назад
I hope all the contributors to these schools see this and really question what they're funding.
@tobybigham4196
@tobybigham4196 7 месяцев назад
How is asking a loaded question to lead a witness considered good governance? That tactic is not tolerated in court, yet is the goto strategy by both sides in congressional hearings! I hear claims of "Genocide", I just don't see overwhelming evidence. We aren't really getting to heart of any matter from what I can see so far. A college campus is a place to share ideas, and to argue ideologies. But it seems that there are people who are claiming that certain speech means "This or That" instead of people asking for clarification. Personally, I would like to see this whole thing debated properly. Because I honestly think at least 90% of people think that Hamas is a terrorist organization! However, there are some who watch events and realize that the Zionist elites have done a piss poor job of governing their land! There is no reason that Bibi and his government should not have waged war on Hamas from the very start! It should have been priority #1 for the protection of the Jewish people, and the citizens of Israel to wipe out Hamas. The fact that they haven't scares me even more, because Hamas has never since their inception, changed their mission statement! ** I am interested in what you think! **
@justaddafan
@justaddafan 7 месяцев назад
@@tobybigham4196 The point of the question is to (1) demonstrate the hypocrisy of these institutions and (2) highlight the allowance, no encouragement of anti-Semitism on campuses. Her unstated but clearly implied full statement is that if she were to replace "Jews" with "black people" or "Muslims" the answer from these presidents would have absolutely been different. Let me make it clear, that answer should never be different, no matter what group is targeted. A large part of the country has chosen some protected groups and equity presides over equality. It's a disgusting ideology and the more it's exposed, the more it will fall apart. The problem is that most people aren't paying attention or are happy to placate unless they are directly effected without realizing that eventually they will feel it as well. As a Jew I'm deeply disturbed by the obvious rise in public anti-Semitism and the lack of understanding of history. But I don't think this is about Israel or Jews, it's a wider problem of people with no sense of individualism and no respect for the institutions that provide them with the freedom that they have. The institutions that have provided equality and freedom, the ones that allowed my grandparents to rise from near nothing to success stories, that are currently threatened by these distorted ideals, are what we desperately need to preserve.
@handsofthedevil
@handsofthedevil 7 месяцев назад
@@tobybigham4196Dude, it’s not a loaded question. Those colleges have a code of conduct. Does calling for genocide violate it? If so, what actions have been taken against those that have? Simple, fact based question.
@tobybigham4196
@tobybigham4196 7 месяцев назад
@@handsofthedevil You are assuming someone is guilty with that question. That is why it is loaded. Is there a code of conduct? Yes. Should it be up the college to cancel you because you said something stupid in public. NO. Should the college create a safe place from assault and harassment? Yes. Is it up to the college to prosecute someone for that? THEY ARE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT!!! But they can escort you off the campus! If someone does a behavior that is questionable. You give them there day in court to explain it. If they are guilty, we can start moving with consequences. But in this country Comrad. The country I risked my life to defend in the USMC. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty! And the court is there to decide their guilt! Not you!!!!!!
@euphony93
@euphony93 7 месяцев назад
This was a trap of a question. Yes, the answer should be a simple yes, but the problem is that people are calling for students to be expelled because they are calling for Palestinian freedom. Palestinian freedom does not mean genocide of Jewish people!
@goodcomrade4231
@goodcomrade4231 7 месяцев назад
Yes, it was a trap of a question. These women should be smart enough to see this and know to say YES. That's the end of the discussion. Your point of how to interpret and treat other forms of criticism of Israel simply has no relevance to the questioning. These women weren't asked whether those other acts violated their school's code of conduct.
@jasons5916
@jasons5916 7 месяцев назад
You say yes and then the follow up question of "are you expelling these students" can get into the context weeds of what constitutes actual antisemitism. Like protesting a foreign government doesn't equate to calling for genocide. Even saying that country shouldn't exist doesn't mean you want the people living there killed or displaced. So their "context" response was better saved for later and they can push back against right wing redefinition of words like intifada, which they should be able to do if they are smart enough to be university presidents.
@philipskalla4312
@philipskalla4312 3 месяца назад
It does mean genocide if Palestinian freedom means October 7.
@SpikeAnon
@SpikeAnon 2 месяца назад
@@philipskalla4312 false flag by small hats, open your eyes
@js46644
@js46644 7 месяцев назад
It's Magill's smile as she delivers it that is particularly disturbing
@silverwolf6866
@silverwolf6866 7 месяцев назад
that is the face of a nazi
@ecosystemology
@ecosystemology 7 месяцев назад
Asking misleading questions and then demanding that the answer be in Yes or No reply is a very totalitarian way of approaching the concept of free speech.
@herefordguy
@herefordguy 7 месяцев назад
Sorry, I never realised until today that asking i calling or genocide of Jews breaks university code of conduct rules was a controversial complex question
@ecosystemology
@ecosystemology 7 месяцев назад
@@herefordguy 😂I know right? It's as if people still don't realize that language is an artificial construct that CAN be easily manipulated in nearly infinite amounts of ways and that real work starts when we slow down and try to better understand one another rather than sit on top of them from a moral high-ground. Answer yes or no.
@herefordguy
@herefordguy 7 месяцев назад
@@ecosystemology is calling for the genocide of Jews against the university code of conduct? Yes or no? If it’s such a hard question why has the principe of Penn stood down with millions of donations being withdrawn? Are they stupid too?
@AMH793
@AMH793 7 месяцев назад
@@ecosystemologyusually I’d agree but the particular question isn’t really complex. The conflict of course is, but we’re just talking about edgy leftist zoomers who want to participate in a shitty protest
@ShadowMan64572
@ShadowMan64572 7 месяцев назад
​@@ecosystemology What was misleading?
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 7 месяцев назад
Stefanik is a cheap bully. Harvard is an independent institution that ought to be free of gub’ment interference and free of the threat of donor blackmail.
@wa1ufo
@wa1ufo 7 месяцев назад
Imagine this black woman responding in this fashion if the students were calling for the genocide of blacks! She wouldn't be shucking and jiving then!
@sethreign8103
@sethreign8103 4 месяца назад
Must be nice to be allowed to go out of your way to avoid giving a striaght answer every single time & not be immediately held for contempt of court.
@veebee3463
@veebee3463 7 месяцев назад
Hollywood script movies actor playing hitler: to give the impact of the conditions of living isn’t considered antisemitism for historical fact, similar to Black foundational American script slaves being beaten and sodomozed and raped, but for the protection and safety of the feelings of the victims who dealt with harry weinstein/ and the other guy who killed himself supposedly in prison I believe it was murder he knew too much just like Hugh Hefner did but Hugh wasn’t threatened with court and taking all these rich and famous down the Hollywood script documentary removed any hanis content.
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 7 месяцев назад
Run-on sentence. You’re a nut job.
@johnc1315
@johnc1315 7 месяцев назад
Just because you’re not getting the answer you want doesn’t mean the question isn’t answered.
@ogmoose5930
@ogmoose5930 7 месяцев назад
It wasn’t answered
@johnc1315
@johnc1315 7 месяцев назад
@@ogmoose5930 Definitions from Oxford Languages an·swer /ˈansər/ noun a thing said, written, or done to deal with or as a reaction to a question, statement, or situation. "he knocked and entered without waiting for an answer"
@tinamiaouli9266
@tinamiaouli9266 7 месяцев назад
It's interesting that I went to a school where racial slurs were directed at people of southern Mediterranean origin and never once did our principals do anything to stem the racial bullying. We just learned how to deal with it and got on with the job of studying and sitting for our university entrance exams. Not one person tried to protect students from racially motivated harassment in the school yard or after school.
@silverwolf6866
@silverwolf6866 7 месяцев назад
It's interesting how you can make up random generic sounding stories in RU-vid comments section and think people will believe the BS.
@user-jx1cz3fe6e
@user-jx1cz3fe6e 7 месяцев назад
Did they call for genocide?
@JuliaJacksons
@JuliaJacksons 7 месяцев назад
Making these universities look like clowns.
@UglyRugby
@UglyRugby 7 месяцев назад
This video will go down in history as a moment of infamy for America and it’s institutions
@christinemarie8104
@christinemarie8104 7 месяцев назад
Talk about a bully. The gentle lady needs to get a grip. Performance politics by the GOP
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
when you start censoring education you censor learning.
@rvpaey5422
@rvpaey5422 7 месяцев назад
Don't we have Constitution that protects the crazies when they talk crazy?
@Benjamin-fu5ij
@Benjamin-fu5ij 7 месяцев назад
The question was about a code of conduct violation, not about constitutionality of speech. Each of these universities have taken disciplinary action against students for violating code of conduct. It’s not rocket science, what part of this don’t you get?
@sosababy3655
@sosababy3655 7 месяцев назад
​@@Benjamin-fu5ijexactlyyyy these brainless fools don't understand 😂
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 7 месяцев назад
That is what she is hiding behind making such accusations targetted at college leadership like this. She is an absolute hypocrite.
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
Where's the difference when you start censoring education? Education is about learning. stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@Anonymous-pm7jf
@Anonymous-pm7jf 7 месяцев назад
She's bought by the Jews to make a spectacle and she did.
@HadEnough745
@HadEnough745 7 месяцев назад
WOW these women have to READ their answers?? Unbelievable...
@ArthurKaletzky
@ArthurKaletzky 7 месяцев назад
Perfectly believable. They're academics, real intellectuals who believe in critical thinking, reductive analysis, context and nuance, not babbling slogans off the cuff. The world could use a lot more of that and lot less of what Stefanik and the Repugs exhibit.
@jimmyroberts5907
@jimmyroberts5907 7 месяцев назад
@@ArthurKaletzkylmaooooo
@docsamn1734
@docsamn1734 7 месяцев назад
Wtf!! Calling for genocide of people need a context verification?!!
@user-tv8wq1dy3g
@user-tv8wq1dy3g 7 месяцев назад
She said it she didn't hear any genocide chanting in the campus.. You put words in their mouth . Some one please sue this congresswoman for playing with the words with her loud voice 😅
@Limo_wreck
@Limo_wreck 7 месяцев назад
You’re defending these women? Holy shit
@user-tv8wq1dy3g
@user-tv8wq1dy3g 7 месяцев назад
@@Limo_wreck watch the whole hearing and you ll understand...their problem they listened to their lawyer and kept same answers.. The congresswoman came up with chanting wasn't heard in the campus... That is why they were not in the same page... Israel is controlling America they try to restrict us from any chant leads against the Israel occupation. Free Palestine means end of occupation, is this anti-Semitic or anti Israel .. Does it mean the genocide for the Israelis as they did and still doing now on Gaza !! End occupation , means get out of my land my territories and after that you can live good somewhere else. So the pro Israel protests are Anti Palestinians . because the call for the occupation to last and extension of settlements And this can apply on calling for a genocide to Palestinians people , since Israel are one of the most army equipped and stronger and the oppressor they are capable of genocidal and they did it ,not just by calling , by all means .
@jimmyroberts5907
@jimmyroberts5907 7 месяцев назад
I'm applying for an MFA in creative writing at some of these "top institutions". Really making me rethink my decision based on the amount of ignorance displayed at the highest level
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 7 месяцев назад
Doubtful you would get accepted. Try your local community college. Open admission.
@robforrester3727
@robforrester3727 7 месяцев назад
Er, you're applying for an MFA in creative writing? You should indeed be questioning your choices.
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v 7 месяцев назад
Please don’t apply. Nobody needs your application. You think things are going to get better? The games are just beginning. The world is still watching what Israel is doing and those who support it and you think you’ll be immune from that? 🤣 Your names will give it away. Finally. 😈
@trajanoptimus7198
@trajanoptimus7198 7 месяцев назад
Honestly your portfolio and your ability to sell your vision should be doing the talking. I wouldnt recommend going further but if you insist on a masters program at least get a MBA since thats what a lot of artists lack to the point of paying curators who take a huge cut to that other half which is selling their vision for them. The only perceived value of joining these elite institutions is being able to network with other elites which is absolute bs unless: 1. You're already part of the rich folks club. 2. You're quite literally top of your class thus showing usefulness to those in point 1. 3. You have world class charisma but then I'd argue not needing school at all.
@jimmyroberts5907
@jimmyroberts5907 7 месяцев назад
@@robforrester3727 only applying to fully funded programs w/ stipends for TA...
@plato1273
@plato1273 7 месяцев назад
No one should be allowed to have free speach..
@ruglover1
@ruglover1 7 месяцев назад
Is it me or Magill has the same smirk smile as Adolf Eichmann?
@MrPlankinton
@MrPlankinton 7 месяцев назад
1:40 if speech becomes conduct....
@katherenewedic8076
@katherenewedic8076 7 месяцев назад
Where's the difference when you start censoring education? Education is about learning. stafanik is a self righteous bully and is making money hand over fist with individual, mass, and the carpet bombing murder of innocent individuals with her ties to weapons manufacturing and sales LEARN what free speech means
@DaMainDude
@DaMainDude 7 месяцев назад
Why are all the presidents women? I feel men are being discriminated against.
@cjgazerro622
@cjgazerro622 2 месяца назад
It’s insane a small percentage of women have that CEO fire not anger fire these women are so weak so incompetent there afraid to go against Davos because that’s a dictates all these Democrats shit
@rickhockersmith2976
@rickhockersmith2976 7 месяцев назад
Sad day for us here in her district [Plattsburgh, NY]
@inayatrehman1168
@inayatrehman1168 7 месяцев назад
She doesn't have dialogue and any point that's why she is being arrogant and loud.
@ExplorHits
@ExplorHits 7 месяцев назад
The hearing lasted 5 hours but Elise Stefanik managed to expose them all in 3 min.
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