You make the best videos. I appreciate the time you take to explain everything in detail. I just ordered the 80” PR5000 rack for my home gym. Can’t wait to set it up. I’m planning on getting the lat pull down attachment eventually too.
The LLR is great for the price! I’m not familiar with the FTX, but if it’s a typical dual stack functional trainer, then it will be more complete and versatile than the very versatile LLR. If money isn’t a consideration and you have the space, I say go with the functional trainer.
Very nice! This is next on my wishlist. I’m a big fan of stainless steel and I like how Rep has came out with the matching red stabilizer bar and feet. Nice to have a cheer leader as well! Lol
Haha, yes the motivation is always welcome. I must clarify that Rep doesn’t have the rear stabilizer or feet in any color but black. I had them (and other parts) powder coated in red to match.
Got my lat pull down. Great addition. Do you know what the weight of the slide mechanism is with the weight horns? Did not weigh it before I installed.
Your channel content thus far is very down to earth and inspiring. How you've worked your equipment into your unfinished ceiling has un-dashed my hopes for my own sweet home gym ... with kipping pull-up head-room to spare. In my case, my better 60% and I democratically decided months ago that our vaulted ceiling living room is completely off-limits. (ok, in reality I knew better than to even ask). That basically left the attached garage. The attached garage has an 8 foot finished ceiling, which ... I can touch flat-footed. So ... I basically have a short squat rack with a pull-up bar that allows my knees to clear the floor, and that's about it. Correction, I have a nice weight bench now, too, upgraded from an actual piano bench with a double-layer of 2 foot square foam tiles on top. A 93" cage / PR-4000 would totally fit, but... head still hit the ceiling on pull-ups, and ... some other attachments not so sure. The Eureka moment watching this video was, "Wait a second! Above my finished drywall is nothing but standard studs" (and effectively attic space for one half of the garage) . "I'd just need to "strategerize" a few trap doors." (and rearrange a lot of "priceless stuff" that's too good for 1-800-got-junk). So ... now I have a mission. Subscribe + 1.
Awesome and glad to hear you’re enjoying my content! Where there’s a will, there’s a way! I’d very much like to hear how it all turns out. One thing you could consider (doing this myself for a cutout near my steps that I did to route some wiring) is to use an AC vent cover like the floor registers. If you could, perhaps you could devise a way to implement one of them into the Sheetrock and undo it when you need the space. I’m sure you’ll work it out.
Hi there. I hope you’re having a great weekend. I’m in the process of a basement remodel so I can turn it into a gym. Love what you did with your ceilings. What is the height of your ceilings?.
@@twistedbarbell3950 Thank you so much for the reply. I'm thinking of going with the 80 inch just because my ceiling tops at 90. Your reviews and your videos are extremly helpful. Thank you!.
So the PR 5000 is the same as PR 5000v2. I built my rack at rep fitness its a pr5000. Iam a little confused I chose the 80" rack and 30" if I buy lat pull down attachment and stabilizer I won't need to bolt it down correct?? Will the rogue leverage arms work on this rack? OK this is my dilemma.🙄 I currwntly have this set up PRX wall rack and separate valor lat pull down machine, separate rogue pull up bar, separate rogue band station with matador dip attachment and landmine (this is what I currently have right now) and many of other things.. I want the rogue arms so for that I will have to get another rack I think so I been looking at the one mentioned avobe..now if I get the pr5000 with lat pull down, rogue leverage arms, dip, land mind and pull up bar attachments I can sell all my other stuff and this way I will have everything consolidated in one rack..don't know if I will like everything cramped up in one place though🤔🤔. Or maybe just replace prx wall rack with rogue wall rack and keep everything else in separate stations like I have it now??🤔🤔
sorry for missing this until now...you should not need to bolt down with that combo. The Rogue lever arms may work on that rack, but may be a slight bit wobbly due to Rogue's slightly larger posts (by mm).
Thanks for the video. I like that you took the time to take measurements for people that need them. My question is : How many inches does the rear of the Lat Attachment extend ? I am asking because I ordered an extra Crossmember that i wanted to put on my 16” rear plate storage rack portion but I am wondering if the Rear top beam of the lat attachment extends 16” that would not allow me to add the extra Crossmember . My PR4000 6 post rack came today but my Lat Attachment won’t ship till September so that’s why I’m asking before I start to assemble my rack. My rack is 24” front and 16” rear.
I'm not 100% sure I'm following your plan correctly, but it sounds like you just want to move the Lat/Low Row to the rear posts of your 6 post rack, instead of the middle posts. That could be beneficial since the rear bar stabilizer can interfere with doing incline bench within the rack. However, it may not give you enough room for the pulley system coming off the top of the L/L/R to pull down (i.e. Lat Pulldowns). Forgive me if I'm mist-understanding. In any case, I typically tell people to have 3 ft. of room behind their rear posts (on a 4 post rack like mine) to accommodate the L/L/R. The actual length is just under 36" to allow for the use of full sized bumper plates on the weight horns of the LLR. If you put it too close to a wall then loading plates could be challenging. At 3 ft. you should be good to go.
@@twistedbarbell3950 What I’m asking is how many inches is the Top Beam of the Lat Attachment? I have a 16” rear portion of my Pr4000 6 post rack that is the plate storage portion (16”) So my plan was to put a Crossmember on the rear of the 16” portion of my rack. I want to know if putting a Crossmember on that 16” rear portion will get in the way of adding the Lat attachment? So if you can measure from the Top beam of the lat attachment how many inches back does it extend? I will be putting my lat attachment onto the rear Crossmember of the 24” section of the rack and will that top beam extend more than 16” back. If you just measure the complete top beam of the lat attachment than measure the rear part of the lat attachment beam that extends back.
I tell everyone who asks, you should have 3 feet of additional space behind the rack for the LLR. It’s slightly less, but if you’re using full size weight plates on the weight horns, you’ll want a few extra inches of wiggle room. 3 ft suffices.
I love the black and red look my question is I’ve had my eye on the set up some Of your attachments I see are red that on the site they come black did you paint or powder coat them? Like your j cups rear stabilizer safety rope attachments???
Are u able to incline inside the rack or will the lat pull down get in the way? I was going to buy the rp4000 with ares but I think I will rather buy the pr4000 with weight stack lat pull down attachment and a separate FT.
I suspect they’re limiting manufacturing due to the creation of the Ares system, as well as the next lat pull down adaptation. It sucks, but if you’re patient you may have some even better options available.
Thanks for the insight on the extra height the pulley adds. Im setting my up my rack soon. I want to install the rack to take into account the addition of this system when/if it becomes available again. Can you tell me the total length the pulley system adds to the rack from the RBS attachment to the upright to the end of the pulley system foot? Reps website says 26" but it is a little unclear if this is from its attachment to the upright or from attachment to the RBS (which would add 10")
I tell everyone to allow for an extra 3 feet behind your rear post. The measurement is more like 33" with a full sized plate on the Lat/Low Row weight horn, so an extra few inches of clearance is a good idea.
@@movedout Yes sir...Absolutely is because only the height of the uprights and L/L Row itself is different. Depth is the same regardless of the height.
So I been reading that with the 6 post and lat pull down attachment it's a pain to take of and load weights on the lat pull down pegs since wight plates store on rear post will interfiere with loading plates on lat pull? This is with lat attachment installed in the middle of rear post to save more space. The solution will be to install attachment behind storage post but this will make rack streamly long:( or install lat attachment in middle of rear storage post and move rack away from wall about a foot but it will be the same thing too as far a floor space. So how true is this and do u have your lat pull down attachment installed the middle or behind the rear post??
Hey Marco, I have only 4 post and have the LLR installed behind rear posts as intended. I cannot speak to interference with 5th & 6th post, but it could be. If you watch my 1 year review of the PR4K, I speak about this a little and show measurements with tape measure to give people an idea. I would guess you could always install weight horns a little higher and lower from the resting point of LLR horns to avoid interference. You’re right about extra long footprint if you install in rear posts, but then the rear name plate may interfere with handle attachment point.
Hi Marcus. Happy New Year. Thanks for your help so far, I just got my 4000 built but it's not finished as I'm waiting for accessories to become available. My lat/row weight carriage gets hung up on the guide posts. If I squeeze guides together it will drop, so the guides don't seem to be perfectly straight. Rep told me to put silicone on guides to fix it. Did you have this issue? Another question is about the leg roller attachment; is it wide enough for you? I like to have my legs about 2 feet apart when I'm doing lat pulls. Rogue has individual leg rollers for the monster lite series which should fit the 4000., so that is an option - although an expensive one. Thanks!
Mike, I did not have that issue with my Lat/low Row attachment. You may want to check your alignment by unscrewing the posts and realigning (although shouldn’t be much room for error with the posts). Mine worked without issue from the start and the weight horns never got hung up or even slowed down while traveling along the posts. Perhaps one of them is bent on yours. Also check the rubber grommets that surround the posts...could be one is not attached properly and is causing the friction. I’ve used lithium grease and lately WD-40. The leg roller is wide enough for me. The padding falls in the center of the rack and I’m used to having my feet on either side of my bench. It does the job, but if you prefer a wider stance, you may have to spend the extra money for Rogue’s option.
Haaa 1:47, those little chrome weider dumbbells just chillin there 🤣. 9:49 Lol no, no it's not. Should totally paint it black/red, to match your gym =D Subbing
Hey Mark, I don't think it will matter much, as the 40" is quite wide. It looks like the 48" is not exactly wider, but the grip part is more angled. I love my 40" as it is a quality piece and the angle is quite comfortable for me.
How much more space do you need in the back with the lat/row attachment? Also, doing face pulls lying down is genius. I would’ve never thought of that.
Hey James, thanks! I tell everyone who asks that you should add about 3 feet from the rear of the rear post (for a 4 post rack). The actual measurement is more like 33" to account for full sized weight plates on the weight horns, but you'll want a little extra room just in case.
I use a lubricant spray as well and with a towel behind a rod, I spray a good amount. Then I use the towel that caught the overspray and smear it all around, up and down to ensure it's well lubricated. Other than that, not sure what else one could do. There have been some reports of bent rods that prevent smooth operation. Perhaps you can use a magnetic level tool to check yours from top to bottom.
@@faithfitnessandfatherhood chad, the nameplate, both sandwich J cups, rear stabilizer bar, front stabilizer feet, leg roller, spotter arms and the hardware from the strap safeties as mentioned in my strap safety test video.
They are similar in length to my 12” horns on the rack. Never measured them but I’d be surprised if Rep made a different length instead of using existing horns for the LLR.
You may be right about stainless, but it’s definitely not chrome (that could chip or flake off). It is not the best finish and doesn’t resemble the finish of a good stainless bar, but it’s steel and there is no coating to speak of, at least not on any of my bars. They also seem to have been treated in a way that makes them better than bare steel, hence why I refer to them as stainless, even if a low grade.
@@leprechaunOG1971 Very likely. Didn’t mean to “Up-sell” these handles with misinformation, but Rep is light on details for most of their products. Nonetheless, I am very happy with them as they are truly quality pieces. I appreciate your feedback Peter!
@@leprechaunOG1971 I have a rep rackable curl bar and it seems to be the same finish. Mine is what they call Hard Chrome. It doesn't have the same shine as chrome, almost muted like a stainless bar, but not stainless.
What is the total footprint of the rack with the lat row attachment? I’m considering getting the 93” 41” depth pr4000 and was trying to see how much the lat row attachment would increase the footprint. Thanks
@@twistedbarbell3950 another question, do you think the lat row attachment would offer enough stability to the rack to forego the front stability legs and weight storage uprights? (I’m not going to be bolting to floor)
@@LetsLiveThriving I’m not really sure, to be honest. I believe it would be, but my situation is a little different in that my L/L/R is wedged between the floor joists above, so it locks it down for me. My rack isn’t bolted either and it is firmly planted, but I’m not sure if it’s because I wedged the L/L/R or because it adds more weight and stability. If you add weight horns and plates on the 4 posts like I have, it should be enough to “anchor” down your rack. If you find it miraculously doesn’t, then you could buy the front feet. The only way I can see them being really required is if you’re going to attach ISO arms on the front or want to squat with heavy weight outside of the rack. So if you had to drop weight on spotter arms, that might leverage a he rack of the floor if you did t have front feet. Otherwise, I do t see it being an issue.
@@twistedbarbell3950 Is a metal rubbing sound normal with the trolly against the rails when lifting or does that mean I may have overtightened the guide rail screws causing the rails to not be completely straight?
@@LetsLiveThriving I do not have a metal rubbing sound on my pulley system. Perhaps there could be an issue with over tightening, but I could only speculate. I know one viewer of mine found he had a problem with bent rails/bars and Rep replaced them. Perhaps that could be your issue too. Check them with a magnetic level if you have one. If they’re straight from top to bottom, it is likely something else. Good luck.
In terms of smoothness, I’d say they’re very similar. Of course, that will depend on how you maintain it, ensuring it’s adequately lubricated regularly. Commercial weight stacks have tighter tolerances so the weight moves less, but this is confined in on the two rails and it’s similar. Bottom line is, I love it and think it’s awesome! A true value and it’s hard to beat the versatility it provides from the price point.
Hey Bin, they don’t specify on their site and I couldn’t be 100% sure, to be honest. To me, it feels like the low grade stainless steel rails I used to hold onto on NYC Subway most of my life. I cannot detect a coating of any kind either.
Hi, Question for you. I've had my 4000 rack in boxes in my garage for a while waiting for the Lat/Low to come in, but they are still out of stock. I am going to go ahead and install the 4000 and just attach the Lat/Low later. How much room should i leave in the back to make it easier for myself to install the Lat/Low later? Thank you
Hey Jesse, I measured it out for you today and with some bumper plates on the weight horns, you would need roughly 34" of space from the back edge of the rear upright (4 post rack). You should probably give yourself a solid 3 feet just to be on the safe side.
How awkward are pull downs with the 80” rack? This is the thing I’m most worried about with this being 6’ with long arms, I’m worried I won’t get full range of motion with the pull downs
Not awkward at all and you’ll always get a full range of motion because the cables are appropriately sized. I’m 6’2” and it’s never been an issue. It’s well thought out.
@@twistedbarbell3950thanks! I’m not sure why, but I’ve watched a lot of your videos (love you starting to compete!) but always thought you were like 5’8”
Hey Jazz, I love the height because it allowed me to place the rack where I wanted it, with limited ceiling height. No issues with the rack itself, but due to the ceiling height, I am unable to do standing overhead presses or box jumps and such. The height doesn’t play a factor in the lat low row at all for me.
Hi Marcus. Question for you. I just installed my lat low row attachment. The trolly that slides up amd down the rails, does yours slide up and down easily with no resistance? Mine feels very snug when I raise it up and goes down very slowly on its own weight. Just wondering if my rails are bent or I over tightened the bolts on top amd bottom.
Hey Excid, this question sounds very familiar and almost exactly like something I was asked before. Mine doesn’t have any issue like what you described and operates smoothly. However, being that I’ve been asked this before, I can say you’re not the first to experience this. That other individual contacted Rep about it and had one or both rails replaced because it was bent. Obviously try loosening the bolts to see if it moves freely to at least confirm it isn’t due to over tightening before contacting them. Good luck.
@@twistedbarbell3950 thank you for the quick reply. Took another look at the bottom rail screws and It absolutely was due to slight over tightening. Perhaps it was my super human strength that got the better of me. Thanks again for keep me motivated with your journey! Keep the content coming my friend.
@@randyfhorvath you can absolutely use them. They can be used anywhere in the rack that you need. It’s really a must when you go up in weight, to keep you pinned down. I use mine for lat pull downs, Nordic ham curls (see one of my shorts here), Bulgarian split squats & more.
I can do pull-ups with no problem as I have the rack situated so that my head goes between floor joists and only seated o warhead presses. Not enough height for standing presses, unfortunately.
I just set mine up and I don't have tension in the cable, it's almost as if they're both too long. I can't figure out the issue as I set it up just as the video and instructions said to do. So frustrated.
Did you try a different link in the included chain that sits in front of the weight horns? If so and that doesn’t help, you may have routed the cable on the wrong side of a pulley wheel.
@@twistedbarbell3950 Can't even use the chain, it makes the cable even longer and more slack. I think they might've sent me the longer cable, for the taller version. I'm going to give them a call when they open.
I’m assuming you’re referring to the lat/low row, but it doesn’t extend inside the rack. It extends outside and I tell everyone to allow for 3 feet behind the rear post for 4 post racks, to allow for the weight plates to go on and off the weight horns with ease.
@@twistedbarbell3950 great! I was able to order one this week and I jumped on it since they are rarely in stock. But then began to worry if I have enough space. It sounds like it will just barely fit in my basement space. Thanks for your information
They haven’t had it in stock a whole lot and it’s actually hard chrome, rather than the stainless I thought. Doesn’t take away from the great quality though
That depends on the bench you use. When I had a cheap Flybird bench from Amazon, it was possible. With my AB-5200, I have to do incline from outside the front posts because the LLR interferes with pushing the bench back far enough to be in a comfortable position for incline. You could do it, but it puts the barbell in an awkward position behind you, causing you to over reach behind and risking an injury.
