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Repairing a Damaged Warship - Ship Triage and Treatment 

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Today we take an overview look at the process behind repairing a ship that has suffered combat damage.
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@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 11 месяцев назад
Pinned post for Q&A :)
@ricardokowalski1579
@ricardokowalski1579 11 месяцев назад
Solid video 12:00 coconut logs are not in the script, but they are canon. 😊 ba dumm tiss 🥁
@robertmills8640
@robertmills8640 11 месяцев назад
Since armor plate is a relatively long lead time item, and somewhat form fitted to each ship, do they maintain replacements
@brendonbewersdorf986
@brendonbewersdorf986 11 месяцев назад
Is there any case where the distributed armor scheme has benefits over the all or nothing scheme?
@rebelsqurl8959
@rebelsqurl8959 11 месяцев назад
@@robertmills8640 Drach answered a question of mine similar to this in a previous live segment Drydock. Non-face-hardened armor plate, such as that used for splinter protection and for mass-produced gun mountings, can be mass-produced and stockpiled. Face-hardened plate for things like belt armor and turret facings are made in much more limited quantities, but some spares would be produced and stored for use when damage makes it necessary.
@thehuscarl4835
@thehuscarl4835 11 месяцев назад
Did ships in WWI/WWII time frame have generators to produce electricity independent of the boilers? What systems had the highest priority for power if the ship was forced to run on such "emergency" power? Welding the ship back together would be tough without power.
@mitchm4992
@mitchm4992 11 месяцев назад
The most important part of repairing a ship? Replacing all the binoculars the admiral threw overboard
@genosho5574
@genosho5574 11 месяцев назад
Prompts the kind of treasure hunt I really like.
@thatsme9875
@thatsme9875 11 месяцев назад
very subtle allusion
@user-xb1wh5mt4l
@user-xb1wh5mt4l 11 месяцев назад
Also getting rid of the snake that blocks the main gun and driving back imaginary Japanese boarding parties.
@joeclaridy
@joeclaridy 11 месяцев назад
And always be on alert for the Kamchatka
@connormclernon26
@connormclernon26 11 месяцев назад
@@joeclaridydo you see torpedo boats?
@InternetEntity
@InternetEntity 11 месяцев назад
The long awaited sequel to "Survival at Sea - Oh Lord the ship is on fire/sinking/exploding/disagreeable"
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 11 месяцев назад
Somebody save the cat.
@speedster29
@speedster29 11 месяцев назад
"Damage control, report!" "Sir, the ship has suffered a significant emotional event!"
@robinpayne125
@robinpayne125 11 месяцев назад
@@speedster29 I'm sorry sir, the first lieutenant reports that he finds the state of the wardroom quite disagreeable now.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 11 месяцев назад
I find that any vessel can get disagreeable quickly when you get seasick.
@egocyclic
@egocyclic 11 месяцев назад
My employer's late father-in-law was an officer on USS New Orleans (CA-32) during the Battle of Tassaforanga. After the entire front quarter of the cruiser's length was blown off by a Type 93 torpedo and subsequent magazine explosion, the ship had to lay to Tulagi the next morning. While the crippled ship was laid up in Tulagi for more than a week, the captain ordered the ship camouflaged with netting and coconut palms. The story passed on to me is that the hard-pressed crew had little confidence in the ruse, convinced that Japanese aircraft would appear at any moment to finish off what little was left after the destroyer's aggressions. So the captain sent up their floatplane to circle the ship from above. Upon return, the aircrew confirmed to the captain that the New Orleans did indeed appear to be an immobile target covered in palm branches amidst a slick of oil. Then the captain took to the ship's PA to confidently declare to the crew: "Our efforts have been a complete success; we are now invisible to the Japanese." The crew then famously jury-rigged the missing bow with coconut logs just to limp to Sydney, before eventually sailing stern-first all the way back to Puget Sound.
@mikespangler98
@mikespangler98 11 месяцев назад
Those long steaming in reverse stories always puzzled me. Our reverse stages were only rated for ten minutes at a time because they were on the same turbine shaft as the forward stages. The forward stages would overheat if they were turning at speed without the steam cooling those stages. So to go astern for a long time it would have been ten minutes astern, a couple minutes forward to cool the forward turbine, then repeat. Were the reversing turbines on a separate shaft? Or did they have a cooling steam flow cut in to the forward turbine while in reverse?
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 11 месяцев назад
@@mikespangler98 No idea, but it was possible, as is evident, because while puzzling those incidences such as with USS New Orleans are well documented and verified. I rather suspect that cooling may have been at least partially solved by labour intensive but relatively simple means, like a bunch of guys with hose pipes playing sea water over the shafts. That sort of thing.
@grathian
@grathian 11 месяцев назад
@@mikespangler98 Pre-Esssex class US Carriers were capable of steaming flank speed indefinately in reverse, the requirement was to be able to land aircraft over the bow. Yes, they had arresting wires forward. As an engineering officer aboard USS Koelsch, FF-1049, I remember at Gitmo doing a half hour full speed reverse with the conning officer in help control as part of our training. We had no specific requirements on reverse speed, you only had to keep careful watch on the condensor vacuum. As long as you were drawing a vacuum, you were good, and that depended entirely on seawater temperature and flow thru the condensor. Medium-slow speeds were bad because you had to have either normal main circ pump flow thru the condensor at slow speed or reversed natural flow thru the condensor at higher speeds, in the middle neither worked.
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 11 месяцев назад
​@@mikespangler98I'm sure it was always nice if you had a "Rear Admiral" abord ...
@JDBees37
@JDBees37 11 месяцев назад
​@@mikespangler98could they just flip the prop around?
@camrontabler7543
@camrontabler7543 11 месяцев назад
Early step in the triage process: "Is there any unexploded ordinance on the ship?" No body wants to start draining the drydock only to find an armed torpedo or 14 inch shell sticking out of the hull.
@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 11 месяцев назад
Makes you wonder what the guys fixing up Prince of Wales thought when they found one of Bismarck's 15" shells fetched up deep in the ship :D
@minklmank
@minklmank 11 месяцев назад
​@@Drachinifel I'd be really interested in a video detailing how in the name of Rozhestvenskys Binoculars you'd dispose of another nations 15" Shell that had taken one hell of a waterboarding, followed by a butt first collision with a literal steel wall, Breaking through said wall only to stop when it had found a cozy home for its wife and children. Fuse condition questionable at best and taking the civilian approach of "just toss a truckload of sandbags on it and then make it detonate on purpose" is probably something that the British admirality would have liked to avoid.
@Wannes_
@Wannes_ 11 месяцев назад
@@Drachinifel Souvenir ...
@danielkorladis7869
@danielkorladis7869 11 месяцев назад
@@minklmank very carefully
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 11 месяцев назад
Would kinda bring things to a halt i imagine.
@fedecano7362
@fedecano7362 11 месяцев назад
once my now exGF asked me what the fuck was I doing watching a one hour long video about" steam boilers on warships" It wasnt that easy to explain. Now I'm single therefore able to enjoy Drachs channel without being targeted for it so thats a win in my book yey!
@horsemumbler1
@horsemumbler1 3 месяца назад
Steam boilers are cool. Warships are cool. Therefore steamboilers on warships are double plus cool. But really, if Drak did a 2hr talk on maritime paint and how long the various coats take to dry it would still be an interesting listen.
@martinswiney2192
@martinswiney2192 3 дня назад
Two years free of my last most recent ex gf. Wish I had found Drach four years ago. Possibly could have gotten rid of her sooner. To Freedom brothers. 🍻
@twrecks4598
@twrecks4598 11 месяцев назад
Don't forget the cleaning out of the damaged spaces... including bits and pieces of people, sludge/oil/grease buildup, grey water, etc. As a Navy Veteran of the 90's ... I cannot fathom the experience sailors had during the world wars... truly the greatest generation
@alantoon5708
@alantoon5708 11 месяцев назад
Like those who had to go thru the Oklahoma after it was raised and recover hundreds of co mingled skeletons...
@jamescameron2490
@jamescameron2490 11 месяцев назад
After Pearl Harbor, the Navy realized that it was important to skim off any fuel oil on the surface before dewatering a compartment.
@michaels.5878
@michaels.5878 11 месяцев назад
My mom worked at Bemerton during the war. She had a girlfriend who was on a damage assessment team. Now I'm not sure what ship it was , but she was down looking at damage and discovered a dogged hatch. She opened it and there were the remains of 3-4 sailors.
@brushhogg1
@brushhogg1 11 месяцев назад
I've read that the Pearl Harbor salvage crews said the refrigerated food stores were really really bad
@guyfay7678
@guyfay7678 9 месяцев назад
Grandpa endud up senior enlisted in the repair operation on Guam. He did not like cleaning out compartments. I do not know if he did this at Pearl as well. Of course another part not mentioned at the forward bases is scavaging parts from damaged vessels going back and doing upgrades on the fly in theatre. Grandpa had to tell senior officers "no" several times to additional small AA guns and tub that could compromisrt stability.
@kevsim70
@kevsim70 11 месяцев назад
This was actually my grandfather's job during WW2. He was the foreman of a repair crew at a naval shipyard in the San Francisco area that the ships damaged vs the Japanese in the Pacific would be sent to. He worked there before the war, actually. After Pearl Harbor he went to enlist but the military turned him down flat. They said that he was in an absolutely war-critical role, and he could contribute FAR more to the war effort by staying right where he was than he could by enlisting.
@nunyabidniz2868
@nunyabidniz2868 11 месяцев назад
Given the stigma that was associated at the time w/ not being in the services, the War Dept. should have had a small badge (tie tac? Everyone wore ties back then) such men could wear indicating their mission critical status. Something subtle that you'd only see F2F, but would be readily apparent to anyone cognizant. I'm certain it would have had a great effect on moral, and saved a lot of time every day lost to explanations for those men who were needed right where they were...
@trevorday7923
@trevorday7923 11 месяцев назад
Honestly there are an awful lot of photos there which show just what a Herculean task the crews did with their damage-control procedures. With a lot of them it's a case of "how the hell did it survive THAT???". Some of those chuffing great holes look way too wide to have survived.... but still they did. My respect for the sailors of various navies has gone up several points.
@Tomyironmane
@Tomyironmane 11 месяцев назад
One of those pictures I recognized as an American cruiser that ended up missing everything forward of the turret... and I remember this picture because it was the number two turret. Number one turret was gone, the bow was gone, and the magazine that had exploded and taken them off was gone... yeah, the magazine exploded and they still managed to save the ship.
@moo5289
@moo5289 11 месяцев назад
There's a lot of motivation in the fact that, if you don't keep it afloat, it's a long swim home. My own, noncombat experience doing emergency repairs to reactor controls involved shutting down the reactor and running on the diesel. The diesel exhaust pipe ran very near where we were working and an earlier hydraulic leak had saturated the insulation on that pipe. We found ourselves doing delicate, precision work with our heads spinning from the fumes. I know this pales in comparison to the conditions those heroes endured while saving, and in many cases, not saving their ships.
@greendragon4058
@greendragon4058 11 месяцев назад
It is quite incredible isn't it
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 11 месяцев назад
I looked at those USN after action analysis drawings, and the images of ships like CA-32 and breath a lot. Fix it or burn or swim seems to be a great motivator. Respect is indeed due.
@leftyo9589
@leftyo9589 2 месяца назад
you can become very motivated when your only other option to saving the ship is to go for a very long swim.
@mroe34
@mroe34 11 месяцев назад
An interesting future video would be design, development and deployment of the Advance Base Sectional Docks (ABSD), the moveable dry docks which were used in the Pacific conflict to allow repairs at sea or in those instances where proper repair and refit facilities didn’t exist at a nearby port. The first ship of the class was the USS Artisian ABSD-1 which was used to repair damaged US Navy ships initially at Espiritu Santo, New Hebrides Islands.
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 11 месяцев назад
Seconded - just looking at the images used here, I am guessing there were thousands of people doing their stuff on a man made island in the middle of nowhere. I would love to know more.
@markewald6995
@markewald6995 11 месяцев назад
I will add my vote for this as a future video subject. The existence of Espiritu Santo early in the Pacific campaign, and later Ulithi, paid major returns to US Navy operations.
@jeffholloway3882
@jeffholloway3882 11 месяцев назад
I would very much like to see a video on the salvaged ship's of pearl harbor and what repairs/ modernization were done to them
@cmikles1
@cmikles1 11 месяцев назад
He did a 3 part series on the recovery of the Pearl Harbor ships. It’s incredibly interesting. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bB-V9cCSC8o.html
@misterwobbles4017
@misterwobbles4017 11 месяцев назад
He did a series on salvaging those ships but I’d love to hear about the repairs.
@alantoon5708
@alantoon5708 11 месяцев назад
On this exact channel.
@TimelyAbyss
@TimelyAbyss 11 месяцев назад
A note re: avoiding splicing wires. I can confirm, at least in a mining environment, when re-building equipment we ALWAYS re-cable. Any splice, no matter how carefully done, will quickly corrode and cause problems. I can imagine this is much worse in saltwater spray environments.
@garynew9637
@garynew9637 11 месяцев назад
Nonsense.
@somethinglikethat2176
@somethinglikethat2176 11 месяцев назад
I working for a company that repaired cables. It's never as good as new but can be done well. I'm not aware of any mines that will do anything but the most basic repairs on-site however. Of course this was in a workshop hours from the sea.
@constructmaster6280
@constructmaster6280 11 месяцев назад
Interesting seeing the difference in fields - I work in automotive and we vastly prefer splicing in most cases. A well-soldered/crimped and heat-shrinked connection, especially in a static position (I.e. you don’t have to account for the wires to a control unit ever moving much) is usually plenty fine for the life of the car. But cars wiring is generally undergoing much lighter stresses by comparison - rarely hotter than 250F and not submerged or flexing a ton. Re-laying is also often untenable, since the majority of the car’s components are serviced by like 3 embedded harnesses + one for each door if you’re lucky. Tearing apart an engine or an interior just to replace the whole harness is a ton of work, and even if you just wanted to replace the wire between two components, that may require a long journey of removing stuff and opening up ducting.
@constructmaster6280
@constructmaster6280 11 месяцев назад
@TimelyAbyss Are the harnesses in your equipment more modular, or more easily accessed, to make re-laying less of a hassle? I’m sure you don’t have to deal with a lot of trim panels 😂
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 11 месяцев назад
​@@constructmaster6280: I'd imagine that it's a more explosion-prone equivalent of housing rewiring, and the only reason that doesn't get done frequently is a lack of desire to hire an electrician, which likely isn't the case in any authorized mine.
@jcstudmuffin123
@jcstudmuffin123 11 месяцев назад
I like the fact that you point out the floating drydocks. My father served aboard ABSD (Advanced Base Sectional Drydock) #1 during WW2.
@leftyo9589
@leftyo9589 2 месяца назад
floating dry docks, and sub tenders, and destroyer tenders were all critical to keeping the fleets going .
@chuckmarble2365
@chuckmarble2365 11 месяцев назад
I'm recovering from _yet another_ major surgery (and this one's unusually difficult/painful). But a new Drachinifel video makes ANY day better!
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 11 месяцев назад
and if you're still commenting, it makes everyone's day better too, I wish you a swift recovery
@gregsmall5939
@gregsmall5939 11 месяцев назад
So, you're in the yard after a major refit?
@rebelsqurl8959
@rebelsqurl8959 11 месяцев назад
Get well soon, Chuck!
@astralechat5994
@astralechat5994 11 месяцев назад
Did they use parts from another ship to repair ypu ?
@brucewilliams1892
@brucewilliams1892 11 месяцев назад
I'd be interested in any damage report compiled after the first Tallboy hit on the Tirptz. Damage, at her bow, left her confined to Norwegian coastal water. There must have been an appreciation that this was no normal weapon but bigger, a major step up in risk.
@keithdavis4997
@keithdavis4997 11 месяцев назад
Descent into Darkness by Edward Raymer is a first-person account of a salvage diver at Pearl Harbor. He was the first to dive the USS Arizona only a few days after it sank. He and others mention men dying from hydrogen sulfide gas generated by decaying biomass when entering dewatered compartments (aside from bodies, the larger ships had what were essentially meat processing plants). His account is very interesting, as was your series on salvage operations at Pearl (especially the Oklahoma) and a follow up on the subsequent repair of those or other ships would help flesh put this outline.
@johnniewoodard648
@johnniewoodard648 11 месяцев назад
I watched your video on the salvaging/raising of the ships at Pearl Harbor. We always hear about the attack, that was the first time I realized the scope of the horrors that were faced and overcome by the men and women in the aftermath. My heart simultaneously swelled with pride and died at the same time. I hope that made sense. On a lighter note as an US Navy veteran I enjoy your content, Thanks for your continuing efforts.
@colormedubious4747
@colormedubious4747 11 месяцев назад
"Men and women" -- seriously? There were NO women killed (nor even serving) aboard the ships at that time. The six women who were awarded various commendations were nurses at the hospital. Those who died during the cleanup and salvage operation were all men. I'm not saying that the contributions of the nurses weren't critical, or that they didn't witness some horrible shit, but let's not pretend that the horrible shit happened TO anyone but the men.
@johnniewoodard648
@johnniewoodard648 11 месяцев назад
@@colormedubious4747 Your quote ""Men and women" -- seriously? There were NO women killed (nor even serving) aboard the ships at that time."" Over 250 women and 11 children were killed during the attack on Pearl Harbor. While I will agree that the women and children who died were NOT stationed aboard the ships, or may not have even been in the military, does that diminish their deaths?
@colormedubious4747
@colormedubious4747 11 месяцев назад
@@johnniewoodard648 It does not, sir, but they were not intentionally targeted and the topic of this video (and Drach's 3-part series about the salvage op) is damaged warships that were.
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 11 месяцев назад
​@@johnniewoodard648 and indeed your comment was about the horrors that men and women faced in the aftermath; not about how many were killed. Yes, what you wrote did make sense; we can see and respect great human achievement in the face of adversity, but doesn't it reflect badly on us as humans that this actually happened at all? That's why my heart dies when I visit war cemeteries, and observe Armstice Day here in the UK. Hats off to you, and thank you for your service.
@danielkorladis7869
@danielkorladis7869 11 месяцев назад
@@colormedubious4747 you think nurses didn't face horrors?
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu 11 месяцев назад
Fascinating! I remember reading an account from David K Brown that Lord Mountbatten visited his ship (HMS Kelly) while it was being built and discussed the matter of WTF-level damage control at sea with the constructors (including the matter of what to throw overboard). When she received WTF levels of damage, he then proceeded as he had been instructed in order to bring his ship home. Could you possibly cover this, please?
@ph89787
@ph89787 11 месяцев назад
Yorktown & Enterprise: That's enough repairs. I'm going back to sinking ships.
@TimothyCihal-pn7fm
@TimothyCihal-pn7fm 9 месяцев назад
As a Hull Maintenace Technician (HT), second generation, this may be the greatest video EVER posted. Go Navy!
@gru2936
@gru2936 11 месяцев назад
My father in law joined the USS West Virginia late in the war. I know the post Pearl Harbor refit was so extensive she could no longer transit the Panama Canal but the actual details of this refit are hard to find. I would enjoy a detailed review of her repairs and upgrades. Thanks for the work you do.
@fooman2108
@fooman2108 11 месяцев назад
Having been on ships going into overhaul, though fortunately not damaged from combat. The whole triage process is kind of a balancing act. Stuff that has been broken for years will appear on the repair list, and many things you have to ask yourself is this something that really needs to be fixed or is this something we can live without. It's the old warrant against need contest. I really want this thing but do I need it? Then you add the needs the fleet to the time it takes to repair that thing, and you get things like Yorktown leaving Pearl Harbor before Midway in 77 hours.
@ph89787
@ph89787 11 месяцев назад
And then later in 1942, you have Enterprise participating in the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal with her repair division, a Seabee battalion and some of Vestal's crew repairing her.
@fooman2108
@fooman2108 11 месяцев назад
@@ph89787 Pearl Harbor Naval Yard got pretty well known for putting boxcars full of Parts on ships and repair Crews while sending them back out to fight
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 11 месяцев назад
Repair for USS Texas. Yes. All please.
@ph89787
@ph89787 11 месяцев назад
@@fooman2108 Oh i don't doubt that. Except that Enterprise between the Battle of Santa Cruz and the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal was repaired at Noumea, New Caledonia.
@UchihaPercy
@UchihaPercy 11 месяцев назад
@@rogersmith7396are you talking about the ongoing repairs while she’s in drydock? Because their RU-vid channel is posting videos of them (note: the torpedo blisters were so bad that the museum crew is essentially recreating them by hand).
@keithsimonh
@keithsimonh 11 месяцев назад
i always love these general logistical, technical, and procedural vids you do. Never so much interested in specific ships so much as the processes and history of shipbuilding & repair and naval warfighting.
@kanrakucheese
@kanrakucheese 11 месяцев назад
On the video in the future: I want to hear Drachinifel talk about HMS Zubian and if that was ever done to another set of ships. It's the kind of whackiness you'd expect from a cartoon, and the fact that the result seems to have actually worked makes it even more amazing.
@ernestcline2868
@ernestcline2868 11 месяцев назад
It would be interesting to see this done for an age of sail warship as well.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 11 месяцев назад
Pump me hardies pump.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 11 месяцев назад
Age-of-sail field repairs were sometimes pretty wild. Look up the practice of "careening" sometime!
@andreidescult
@andreidescult 11 месяцев назад
One of the most extremely complicated (by the many possible variations) subject, @Drachinifel you have a very special talent covering it so comprehensively in 40min. Thank you.
@christopherboyle1479
@christopherboyle1479 11 месяцев назад
Excellent as always, Drach. I have long been awed by, in particular, the USN's repair efforts after Pearl Harbour/Coral Sea/various other battles. And is it just too nerdy to be fascinated by those wonderful dockyard photographs? So much history in every one ....
@grahamepigney8565
@grahamepigney8565 11 месяцев назад
My grandfather worked in Chatham Dockyard and served on the committee that assesed and triaged damaged ships.
@grahamepigney8565
@grahamepigney8565 11 месяцев назад
Having checked some family history granddad (Eveoy Head) was a Master Electrician and later an instructor of apprentices. The committee was during WWI, probably following D-Day.
@skimbo1407
@skimbo1407 11 месяцев назад
perfect timing, just got home from a visit to the RAN Fleet Air Arm museum and this is perfect to unwind!
@bruceboatwright7488
@bruceboatwright7488 11 месяцев назад
I recognized many of the ships illustrated here, but many were a mystery. Fascinating subject, well presented.
@Kuatier
@Kuatier 11 месяцев назад
Wake up babe, new Drachinifel video just dropped
@m.streicher8286
@m.streicher8286 11 месяцев назад
The joy when you see a new black and white drach thumbnail
@1roanstephen
@1roanstephen 11 месяцев назад
Yes, a video following one ship through its repair process would be interesting if pictures of the work are available.
@MatthewChenault
@MatthewChenault 11 месяцев назад
For an example of how dangerous small holes can be: RMS Britannic sunk not because of the mine, but because the hospital staff onboard left portholes open for water to enter the ship. Had that not happened, the Britannic would likely have survived hitting the mine.
@Hillhouse1956
@Hillhouse1956 11 месяцев назад
You do a fantastic job on these topics, thank you. I especially loved the one about the Russian fleet misadventure in 1905 ;)
@colinmartin9797
@colinmartin9797 11 месяцев назад
I live about 10 minutes from the bremerton naval yard, where the bunker hill was repaired and the uss Turner Joy (one of the ships that started the Vietnam War) is in gorgeous museum condition. Highly recommend a visit on your next USA trip!
@JDPwatching
@JDPwatching 11 месяцев назад
Excellent entry, Drach. Sometimes, it's such a pleasure just to listen to someone who knows what the sweet hell they're talking about going on about that subject they love to a fault. I got like.....48 of those.....at least. Well done and keep at it! 👍
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 11 месяцев назад
The one Iowa class had bow damage from collision and received the bow from a cancelled Iowa and is a different length from the other three.
@ph89787
@ph89787 11 месяцев назад
You mean Wisconsin borrowing Kentucky’s bow.
@madredrobin2620
@madredrobin2620 11 месяцев назад
it would be interesting to see a breakdown in HMS Belfast's repair and refit.
@variableknife4702
@variableknife4702 11 месяцев назад
I have to say I saw that first drawing and was like "Why have you been watching me play warships... because this was me last battle... holes everyplace and on all the fires..."
@randallreed9048
@randallreed9048 11 месяцев назад
Yes, stories about the repairing of the BBs "sunk" at Pearl would be a fascinating story. Each one was, no doubt, different and enlightening.
@johnsmith-zs9jq
@johnsmith-zs9jq 11 месяцев назад
He already did that. 3 parts.
@sadlsore
@sadlsore 11 месяцев назад
There is also an excellent book on the Pearl Harbor Salvage.
@randallreed9048
@randallreed9048 11 месяцев назад
@@sadlsore Title and author? Thank you!
@sadlsore
@sadlsore 11 месяцев назад
@@randallreed9048 : Title: Pearl Harbor: Why, How, Fleet Salvage and Final Appraisal Author: Vice-Admiral Homer N. Wallin.
@melwinge9154
@melwinge9154 11 месяцев назад
Instances of temporary repairs done by crews are surprising, ingenious, great examples of "thinking outside the box". Bows made from coconut tree logs, patches of said logs; ideas unimaginable during peacetime. "Heeling" an aircraft carrier, as was done after SARATOGA took her second torpedo so that temp repairs could be made to get her to Pearl. Such tales and stories would make fascinating reading and fill volumes, I'm sure. And then there are the words of the people faced with the actual repairs and wondering, "Why the blasted blazes did those idiots do that?!"
@thomasgodridge5945
@thomasgodridge5945 11 месяцев назад
I'd like to see more of this. Your stuff is so comprehensive and helpful.
@graphic3211
@graphic3211 11 месяцев назад
I would absolutely love an in-depth look into the recovery and repair of the USS West Virginia
@astralechat5994
@astralechat5994 11 месяцев назад
Drach has a few great videos about the recovery post pearl harbor
@rosey4568
@rosey4568 11 месяцев назад
Ye. I think part 2 of his Pearl Harbour series covers it in enough detail.
@user-fl3ey6pe6k
@user-fl3ey6pe6k 11 месяцев назад
great photos that I've never seen before, my favorites are when you cover warships from 1880s to 1950, the other stuff not so much, not to take anything away from your outstanding narration Sir. your knowledge is priceless.
@alexrennison8070
@alexrennison8070 11 месяцев назад
Hi Drach. I think a really interesting video would be the comparison in living /working conditions on ships based on climate/location. Say, between the Atlantic, Mediterranean & Pacific. Then temperate, tropical & arctic conditions maybe?
@skyhawksailor8736
@skyhawksailor8736 11 месяцев назад
Your comment about the crew being sent to other ships due to how long the ship would be in dry dock reminded me of the Military Funeral Honors I performed for a Sailor. In May 2016 I had the Honor to perform the Honors for a Shipmate, who was a survivor of the Pearl Harbor attack. Channel 2 news in Reno did a fairly good report about the Sailor, but got one fact wrong, and left off the most important fact about the Sailor. In the video they said he joined the Navy at the age of 17 to fight in WWII. He did join the Navy at 17, but in 1930 over 11 years before the attack. Channel 2 did disclose the Sailor spent three days in the Pacific Ocean with an injured knee, after the ship he was on was torpedoed by a Japanese submarine, which is true. They failed to say why he was on the ship which was sunk. They show a picture with the Governor of Nevada at the granite stone in Carson City, to get a certificate of appreciation. The Sailor was on the ship which sunk, because the ship he was originally on was the USS Nevada during the attack at Pearl Harbor and was in dry dock for repairs, so he was reassigned to the ship which sunk. Attached is the RU-vid video of the Military Funeral Honors, which shows the Air Force rifle team supported our Navy Reserve Funeral Honors team. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WKEyl3Eg9PQ.html
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 11 месяцев назад
You've poked holes in my ship! what is one to do? Your resurrection of the US fleet at Pearl Harbor comes to mind. A lovely compelling program I find myself viewing again and again. ^~^
@jackvonkuehn9038
@jackvonkuehn9038 11 месяцев назад
Yes, Yes, Yes you should absolutely do a vid on each ship salvaged from Pearl Harbor and their repair cycle.
@naughtycoin5902
@naughtycoin5902 11 месяцев назад
The settling was the most fascinating part of this. It makes sense but I guess I just never thought of a ship settling back into shape in certain cases before doing repairs or else the repairs wouldn't be properly fitted. Thanks as always for these awesome videos, haven't watched in a bit, marathon time!
@davidlewis9068
@davidlewis9068 11 месяцев назад
This is very good indeed. Thanks for a repair video. Great like your Pearl Harbor series was.
@bryanfields5563
@bryanfields5563 11 месяцев назад
FANTASTIC array of photos!
@higgydufrane
@higgydufrane 11 месяцев назад
Some of those ships really went thru the ringer. Amazing they kept floating.
@JenniferIngraham
@JenniferIngraham 10 месяцев назад
another great video. I would love to see you do a continuation of this series on specific ships like say West Virginia.
@Man2quilla
@Man2quilla 8 месяцев назад
The USS Marblehead video was a great demonstration of what this can look like
@nanorider426
@nanorider426 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video. It's a great help in understanding the vast amounts of time and resources that the various navies had to take into account.
@rusmorpeh3314
@rusmorpeh3314 11 месяцев назад
Battleships may look "obsolete" if compared to modern missile warships but they were still a true marvel of engineering. Just imagine: they built those formidable monsters without any electronic stuff and other "super-duper high technologies".
@erichammer2751
@erichammer2751 11 месяцев назад
Play Rule the Waves and build your own!
@harrykoppers209
@harrykoppers209 11 месяцев назад
I recall that in the '90s it was said that an Exocet missile would just ruin the paint job on an Iowa class battleship.
@Destroyer_V0
@Destroyer_V0 11 месяцев назад
@@harrykoppers209 mmhmm. With ships having a minimum of armour these days, no need to have as much penetration in your munitions, when you can instead blast bigger holes, or have more range. Someone, if they decided to make a modern battleship, and assuming said battleship got hit in the armour belt, would laugh off modern anti ship missiles. If it got hit anywhere else though... lets say, going straight down through the deck? battleships of WWII would NOT, survive that any better than a modern warship. As such, if anyone WAS, going to make a modern battleship, intended to be armoured to protect against all threats. It needs to be far more armoured than battleships ever were historically, in an age where 13 inch thick plates of properly heat treated steel just aren't made anymore. And that then begs the question, won't someone just make a bigger missile with your fancy new ship as a target, or find an already existing missile, made for bunker busting perhaps, that will do the job?
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 11 месяцев назад
​@@Destroyer_V0: I suspect they would worry about torpedoes and their own soft spots, build extra large so there's extra bulkheads to provide structural support & compartmentalization, and then allocate the rest of their attention to "stealth" and active defenses. _LOTS_ of active defenses.
@cameronnewton7053
@cameronnewton7053 11 месяцев назад
​@@absalomdraconisimagine the chaos if instead of plastering it's ships with Bofors and oerlikon's the usn would cover any new battleships with Phalanx CIWS and all other manner of guns, decoy launchers, and missiles.
@simperous4308
@simperous4308 11 месяцев назад
Would love to see more about the Pearl Harbour ships!!
@jimfowler9556
@jimfowler9556 11 месяцев назад
I, for one, would definitely like to see a Pearl Harbor series continuation, or really anything more on this topic. A case study would be really cool.
@charlieb308
@charlieb308 10 месяцев назад
The men who were able to get the carriers repaired to be ready for the battle of midway were the hero’s
@JohnSmith-se9yl
@JohnSmith-se9yl 11 месяцев назад
Excellent overview as usual Drach! Some interesting insights and observations. I especially liked the visuals you found of the American floating repair "yards", absolutely fascinating... Thanks again
@the-chillian
@the-chillian 11 месяцев назад
You know, this probably isn't the kind of thing you want to hear in terms of engagement, but you have what is probably the most soothing voice on all of RU-vid. For some reason, The Holy Algorithm started showing me your vids back in June or July 2019, which I particularly remember because it was the most stressful period of my entire life. Things were so bad that I couldn't fall asleep without drugs and even then I was getting no more than about 4 or 5 hours a night. Then I started watching your vids. _So_ relaxing! It's not that your content isn't fascinating. It is, even if it's not the kind of thing I guessed my have been in my wheelhouse (so to speak.) I love your content. But your VOICE. You could bottle that shit and it would be the best anti-anxiety med ever. This comes to mind because it happened again last night, after another period of only occasional solid sleep. I ended up getting something like 9 hours, which is close to miraculous.
@danentwisle8885
@danentwisle8885 11 месяцев назад
Great video. The repairs to Kelly would be a great case study. And to bring it up to date, the challenging reconstruction of the Type 42 DDGs Southampton and Nottingham.
@droppedpasta
@droppedpasta 11 месяцев назад
I’d just like to say thanks for recommending “Descent into Darkness” in your Pearl Harbor salvage video. It was a fascinating read
@benhall7574
@benhall7574 11 месяцев назад
I love these types of videos that Drach does 🙂
@martinmdl6879
@martinmdl6879 10 месяцев назад
Excellent program.
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 11 месяцев назад
This may sound gruesome, but definitely would have to account for any body pieces that may be anywhere at that point. Cleaning up in general just to be able to see what all it needs, amd even if its worth trying to save, i would think. Its not like a claims adjuster calculating a fender bender. Im glad whoever suggested this made the suggestion. Totallu not something the average viewer , such as myself would have thought of. Thanks Drach
@Chipster-cm1le
@Chipster-cm1le 11 месяцев назад
Hi Drach. I would specifically like very much to know about the massive refits on the two Tennessee class and West Virginia, that altered them to such an extent that they were too wide to fit through the Panama Canal, in particular, the superstructure changes that utterly changed their profiles, the bulges, the decision to integrate the 5”-38 twin mounts, the modern fire control upgrades, and above all, the decision making that said that these changes were more economical, than just scrapping WWI vintage slow warships, considering the amounts of damage to West Virginia and California.
@erichammer2751
@erichammer2751 11 месяцев назад
Lots of good pictures of US Treaty cruisers, which is appropriate considering how many of them were seriously damaged!
@scrapperstacker8629
@scrapperstacker8629 11 месяцев назад
Great Video! I would love to see a video on USS. California. BB44 I looked like a totally different ship after it was repaired post Pearl Harbor attack.
@hyper_pie6306
@hyper_pie6306 11 месяцев назад
Please do Belfast repair process that would be so fun and interesting to learn about
@gak2173
@gak2173 11 месяцев назад
Superb episode Drach!
@squirreljenkins1542
@squirreljenkins1542 11 месяцев назад
Can we see a breakdown of the repair of the USS Yorktown prior to Midway? That's a story I have been wanting to see for ages.
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 11 месяцев назад
I would love a look both at Belfast and the Pearl Harbor repairs!
@michaels.5878
@michaels.5878 11 месяцев назад
Would have been great to see labels on the photos of what ship and date? Some of them I had never seen before.
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 11 месяцев назад
me too
@ZaHandle
@ZaHandle 5 месяцев назад
A lot of them are from wiki commons (essentially the photo repo for wikipedia with copyright free images)
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 11 месяцев назад
wonderful episode......cheers from Florida, USA....Paul
@capt5656
@capt5656 11 месяцев назад
The video you did on SMS Seidlitz was incredible, and while we might not get scale models for them, it'd be amazing to have you do an episode or two detailing a ships combat damage in detail, and then detailing it's repair and refit process.
@aldenconsolver3428
@aldenconsolver3428 11 месяцев назад
Excellent thank you, a field I have long been interested in . Anytime you have more to write I will be ready to read
@bryanmiller1492
@bryanmiller1492 11 месяцев назад
Another well done Vid!
@anthonyryan923
@anthonyryan923 11 месяцев назад
A very interesting account of the ships but it might have been better if the impact on the poor devils who had to do do the immediate/short term repairs had been considered. My dear old pa as a shipwright found himself found himself in Freetown at the age of 22 doing repairs to get wounded vessels back to the U.K.. He had nightmares for the rest of his life regarding the efforts he and his comrades had to endure clearing out compartments of the remains of the crew which were often partly eaten by barracudas. The lads did a greatly under appreciated job.
@dmcarpenter2470
@dmcarpenter2470 11 месяцев назад
Drach, thanks for the Ration. I needed a good tot, this morning.
@sabrekai8706
@sabrekai8706 11 месяцев назад
As usual, an excellent vid. Thank you.
@fiodarkliomin1112
@fiodarkliomin1112 11 месяцев назад
Good job 👍 buddy 👏 A lot of archive pictures i never seen before. And very smart comments 😎
@russwoodward8251
@russwoodward8251 11 месяцев назад
Excellent. Thank you.
@GeneralJackRipper
@GeneralJackRipper 11 месяцев назад
I live for these technical videos.
@lewiswestfall2687
@lewiswestfall2687 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Drach
@chronus4421
@chronus4421 11 месяцев назад
Great video, thank you.
@SuperchargedSupercharged
@SuperchargedSupercharged 11 месяцев назад
Yes, a continuation of the Pearl Harbour savaged survivors would be wonderful please.
@everybodysucks6509
@everybodysucks6509 11 месяцев назад
One great reason to wake up early on a Wednesday! Thanks Drach!
@rdfox76
@rdfox76 11 месяцев назад
Regarding the concurrent upgrading that goes on during these major repairs: After her post-Pearl Harbor repair, the upgrades to West Virginia were so extensive that she was seen by the USN as fully the equal of the Iowas in every way except speed, hence why she was retained until the 1958-1960 period when we disposed of all remaining battleships that weren't the Iowas.
@dahakaprod6519
@dahakaprod6519 11 месяцев назад
Was just looking for another Drach video to watch
@robert48044
@robert48044 11 месяцев назад
Great topic. I didn't really have a choice but to watch.
@erichammer2751
@erichammer2751 11 месяцев назад
What I find most impressive was how the US salvaged a few parts from the destroyers Cassin and Downes after Pearl Harbor and built whole new ships around them! (retaining the same names and pennant numbers). They even got to fight in the last couple years of the war!
@davidchambers8697
@davidchambers8697 11 месяцев назад
That doesn't sound very different (to me) from building any other pair of destroyers. OTOH, what are we to make of the Zubian?
@jacobdill4499
@jacobdill4499 10 месяцев назад
The navy was channeling an age of sail tradition of theirs where they made a new ship and claimed it was the same ship as the old one they scrapped and took the name of.
@jimbracknell5648
@jimbracknell5648 7 месяцев назад
Great vid Drach. Would've loved to see some captions with those photos though, some interesting stories there.
@Darthdoodoo
@Darthdoodoo 10 месяцев назад
Imagine working on that dry dock in the middle of the Pacific ocean 🌊😮 what a juicy target
@hgh425
@hgh425 11 месяцев назад
Yes please. A video on west Virginias repairs
@ckhenson
@ckhenson 11 месяцев назад
I was just on the North Carolina and was impressed by the size of the hole made by the torpedo strike. This they repaired in 21 days. How?
@richardanderson2742
@richardanderson2742 11 месяцев назад
While the detailed repairs are of course of interest, I would be very much interested in a series on expedient repairs away from equipped facilities. Most have heard of the coconut log bow, but I’m sure there are many weird and wonderful repairs undertaken to get to someplace civilized. Even the story of using a printing press to support a broken timber on the Mayflower is an excellent story of using what you got.
@camenbert5837
@camenbert5837 11 месяцев назад
+1 for a full show on Belfast's damage. Presumably any ship that has suffered percussive unpleasantness will have shock damage in all kinds of unlikely places as the forces work themselves out. Was this specifically checked for?
@jarmokankaanpaa6528
@jarmokankaanpaa6528 11 месяцев назад
Naval ships were not the only vessels that sometimes had to be repaired at sea by non-standard methods. Robert Blackwood Robetrson, a Scottish MD and psychiatrist, joined a Scottish-Norwegian whaling fleet for one season in the Antarctic in the early 1950s and published a book titled "Of Whales and Men" (1954) on his experiences. Robertson relates how on one occasion, two catchers (harpoon craft) collided and the resulting damaged was patched up with cement that was carried on the catchers expressly for emergency repairs on orders of the fleet's Head Engineer.
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