BTW....they do sell a cartridge rebuild kit.....basically some new "0" rings. You would still use some silicone grease on the insert and outside. Usually all that cartridge needs is cleaning and some grease.
Moen has an extremely complicated design which develops problems easily. I always dread having to get into it. Sometimes the fix turns out much more complicated than shown in these videos.
@@davidgpo Yes, well I've done it a couple of times, and each time has me sweating and cursing. I'm quite handy and good with tools, so it's not because of my skill level. There are far too many parts in this design, and some of them are difficult to work with or align correctly, etc.
@davidgpo; your stinging remark about not knowing because you are not a plumber was not good. You went on to prove yourself a liar by knowing more than plumber about the Moon type faucet. I just want to know if I can fix it or if I have to buy as new one.
Having trouble loosening the grip of the cartridge with the plastic adaptor and popping the cartridge out. Applying WD and vinegar in the hope that it will loosen up
WD40 would work but probably not last as long as silicone lube because it's very thin. Petroleum based grease would work too, until it destroys the O ring. Silicone won't dissolve away O-rings.
Okay, you're not a plumber, let me answer what causes the stucky feeling...the previous repair person didn't use any plumber's grease on the cartridge. Atleast since I was the previous repair person and I didn't use any grease, I'm acting like I know what I'm talking about but I'm assuming thats why mine was so hard to operate till it finally gave out a year later.
Excellent video, but two problems. Good luck getting the old cartridge out without a cartridge puller - $15 or so from hardware stores. That little plastic gizmo that comes with the new cartridge is good for wiggling the cartridge from side to side, but that's all. As for using a wrench to pull the cartridge out, good luck Schwarzenegger. A cartridge puller uses a combination of brute strength and a big screw. The other issue was that funny U clip. I applaud this video for admitting it's a problem to replace. However it didn't go far enough. It's a f-cking nightmare.
The reason the U-clip was a problem was that I was trying to install the wrong cartridge - duh- because i bought everything before I started the job. I actually succeeded in installing it, but damaged a seal, so it leaked. Once I had the old one in my hand, a Moen 1200, I was able to buy an exact match, and the U-clip just slid in 95%. A little tap with a hammer seated it completely. My comment about the cartridge puller still stands, though.
Every repair is different. I used the Moen supplied plastic piece. It worked just fine. This faucet was not only hard to turn on/off, but also dripping. As for the clip, again, no issue, Got it in the first attempt. The entire replacement went well at a cost of $24.00.
After I use the plastic to rotate the cartridge from side to loosen the cartridge I put the screw on the top of the cartridge and pull the cartridge out with some vice grips. I never needed to buy a puller.
I"m assuming you opened the cold water valve.... It sounds like there's a blockage in the cartridge. Take it apart and make sure everything is in proper position.
I found it much simpler to replumb the hot and cold lines from the basement, it just involved a little sweating and drilling, however that little horseshoe gave me zero problems. Do you have any videos on a Dodge 150 passenger van transmission rebuild?
@@davidgpo Thanks for the prompt response. So far, yours video is the only video addressing the issue I am dealing with. You reused the old cartridge. I wonder if I can use W40 to lubricate the old cartridge. I have three cartridges behave like that. Thanks.
@@moonchasestar WD40 probably won't harm the seals because it's not petroleum based but it's thinner in viscosity than silicone grease so it probably won't last as long. The factory uses silicone grease.
First of all, contact the manufacturer to see if they still support this unit. Many have lifetime warrantees and mail out parts. Failing that you should shut off the hot and cold water supply and take the faucet apart. There might be something stuck in there. Sounds like you have either corrosion or a mangled O ring. Before you take things apart see if the hardware store has parts so you are not stuck with a non working faucet. Hope you have a backup bathroom!
Thanks! this saved me buying a new faucet. I took it apart and cleaned the cartridge and a few drops of oil on the o-rings. a lot better. If it degrades again i'll buy a new cartridge.
Great video....I have an OLD moen bathroom tap...it looks like the one is this video...my cold water just started dripping constantly....I took the Moen decorative cap off but I can't get the srew out as it is stripped...what do I do now?...please HELP....thanks
If the threads are stripped, the screw turns but doesn't lift out? If that's the case pry the screw out with a sharp screw driver. If the screw is stuck tight you'll have to muscle it out with a proper fitting phillips screw driver.
A stripped screw is when the threads are worn or damaged... the screw turns but won't tighten. You have a frozen screw... probably corroded to the stem. Usually someone with a powerful grip can loosen it with a screw driver. If the handle wasn't plastic heat can be used but the handle would melt. How about trying a hair dryer, get the screw hot, drip in some penetrating oil, tap it to vibrate the oil in deep....then try to turn it out with a screw driver. This method might break the faucet, it has to be handled judiciously: If the part of the screw that contacts the phillips screw driver is in good shape it can be forced out with an impact driver. Something like this: www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/screwdrivers-sets/impact-drivers/impact-driver-sku531290000-7932-20137.aspx?cm_mmc=cse-_-Itwine-_-shopzilla-_-531-290-000&
Vinegar will remove scale from the metal parts but not the plastic/neoprene parts. If the plastic/neoprene parts are worn out they have to be replaced. Rather than using petroleum jelly I would use silicone grease it's better on rubber, plastic, neoprene etc. It will buy you some more time before parts need to be replaced.