Reporting on People Living Rent-Free Next to Millionaires | Field Notes 

Should do an episode on Jackson Hole, Wy.

So true! With so much talk about accepting people who choose to live alternative lifestyles, one would think something as innocuous as living on a boat would be welcomed and condoned, especially by those who fancy themselves as "progressives".

A lot of the house boats are not sea worthy and would sink immediately if they weren't submerged in mud. They are not sea worthy at all. What the documentary didn't show is the floating needles or them dumping sewage into the bay. Or the floating piss bottles.

​@@i-vlog1994 oh please this is such a mendacious landlubber take it isnt even funny...when a Safe Harbor franchise suddenly pops up out of nowhere, which it will, and suddenly the bay is perfectly suitable for 200 floating toilets after they dredge it and zone it for floating mansions you'll be singing a different tune as they ALL empty ALL their waste tanks right OUTSIDE the harbor and its laws so as to avoid any pumpout fees. you havent seen anything yet, and that world you're longing for is ten thousand times more damaging to the bay. but hey maybe youll get to go rent a sick jetski

Freedoms..you got jokes

Its certainly not republicans driving up real estate taxes and forcing over the top regulations down everyone's throats to prevent anyone from building anything to get a little bit of happiness out of life.

@@SpaceRanger187 But I can hope that other people can rise to the occasion instead of falling to a low level of behavior or words that I see in others around me simply because we don't agree.

@@brent4073 I don't know who is...but I know that it wasn't me. I want more compromise and compassion maybe between people like you and me. If we can agree that it's wrong and that there's absolutely a real problem that's we (say you and I first) can muddle through towards a resolution that you and I believe is feasible, then it's absolutely something that our politicians can fix if they tried to compromise to the best of their overall community instead of guarding their party lines/agendas.

Everywhere else, homelessness isn't called counterculture...

@@thotslayer9914 why did the Afghanis not just fight against the talibans?

The rich want homeless people to die

@@MistinIndia cowardice

@@holeefuk413 and what is everyone right now?

@@MistinIndia smart

Exactly.

kill the rich

Best comment I’ve seen for a long time, great metaphor.

Place a UCC Lien on your boat. The End.

The harbor master is employed. If he doesn't do his job then somebody else will.

How dare you be poor and homeless

@@SpaceRanger187 everyone knows it's illegal to be poor... Let's go Brandon

@@amyford80 “Let’s go Brandon”? Okay. I guess I must have missed when Drumph made it his mission to solve high property prices and homelessness. Are you ignorant or just being willfully obtuse?

@@bojangles1614 I mean technically every one made more money with Trump in office and the economy was making a huge come back until Binden took over and is slowly killing American oil and other blue collar jobs

@@drewlerfald2 Except Biden isn’t killing American oil at all. You need to be upset with the oil companies making record profits. They’re the reason oil prices are so high.

I've been on the street.. it is different breed of the same beast.. a boat gives you a place to lay your head, a luxury I rarely found during my time I spent on the street. But as someone who also did some time working on the seas , the amount of upkeep of a boat and how they have to dodge authorities has to be absolutely maddening... Sorry thinking aloud, lol.. but I think we agree this is more proof of the income inequality and classism that plagues us.. Either way, have a great day, time to get back to work.. ✌️

Yep, if you don’t want to pay tax to contribute to society or pay your employees a living wage, the problem will come to you eventually. Union Square in San Francisco smell so bad because of the homeless. Took a vacation there, could not enjoy it. Homeless hanging out in-front of Neiman Marcus. But we’re all on the same boat, we have to take care of each other as a society. How you can drive around in your nice cars and enjoy the very nice view of homeless people in LA, and the smell.

It's like that everywhere. Something is very wrong.

@@cierrablue yep. They want us all to be slaves to them. You can't fight back against any injustices when you're struggling just to stay above water

Dude that sucks it's almost as expensive as California at least where I live up north.

I had an apartment back in Cincinnati for $465 a month with a garage and a decent area. That was in 2012.

@@abrahamelliott9806 It probably is. I got kinda lucky finding this place. 1bdrm apartments go for $1,200 easy and the area isn't that great. So I'm happy with my place in a nice area. It just sucks because I work construction and can't work if it snows at all. And unemployment only paid me $200 a week last year so I don't even file anymore.

He’s the one lobbying for it. He’s a horrible hypocrite that can’t be honest with himself and others and just tell us he doesn’t want to see “less desirable” people. He doesn’t like being reminded that the world isn’t a perfect, super rich paradise for the large majority of the human population. He’d have to face self-awareness, and that’s clearly too hard for him.

If someone with a tent and other stuff would start to camp in your backyard, would you let him stay there? I don't think so...

@@vlads.3192 Not the same. The rich folks don't own the bay. A better analogy would be a run down Winnebago parked out on the boulevard in front of your house. You can call the police to get them to move, and the cops might get them to leave for a day. But then they're back. It's not enough of an issue for law enforcement to really do anything, so it's an eyesore for you. Meanwhile, it's the only way that the folks in the Winnebago could ever afford living in the neighborhood you own a house in.

@@ramadjones It doesn't matter, they don't own it... those people on those boats living there won't own it too... If it's illegal, it should be addressed and as you said, they leave, and come back later, so the only way is to just destroy the boats as they do... If you have no money to live in some neighborhood, you can still move so you can live a good life... But these people mostly don't want to contribute and wanna live "free" homeless life ^^

@@vlads.3192 Ah, but that's the rub. Where do they move to? If they work in San Fran, anchor-outs aren't able to afford living near their jobs. They have to move far outside city limits. Renting a house or apartment, having a vehicle that gets them into the city. Hella expensive. Living in the bay solves that issue. Beautiful area, less than 10 miles from the wharf. And what do you mean they don't want to contribute? They interviewed two folks who both had jobs. They're gaming the system. 😁

They make the choice to live in a wonderful place that they cannot afford. I would love to live there too but cannot afford to.

We need an attorney and help getting legal representation

That's not cool to call people peasants dude! And those people with all that money they're not even millionaires that's just a made-up bullshit title. People are people that's that. Although you do have egotistical narcissistic self-centered assholes.

Do you live in a neighborhood? If so, would you like homeless people to live up and down the streets of it?

@@EvanKiser Nah, but if I were a (by definition) powerful millionaire I'm not sure I'd have much room to do nothing but complain

You are ignorant..billionaires & you are the same component..they worked & thought their way to prosperity..you evidently have a issue with that..& instead of admiring & fashioning a path to greater health & prosperity, you sit sulking on the sideline pointing your finger... Wake up..be your own greatest critique..get your crap organized , & unleash your potential. Society owes you nothing..get that out of your head.

That will end up in the county forcing them out. One month it is $100, then slowly it becomes $10,000/month and all of the millionaires end up renting them out to keep out the homeless. Arrest anyone going back to just floating around not paying anything.

100 a month lmao. That'll never happen

@@brent4073 Ok so what's your solution?

@@triple_gem_shining And, your solution is?

@@danpress7745 Probably force them into affordable housing outside of the city in the country. Homeless deserve housing but i think most people would say you can get housing but it is not going to be in prime real estate in the downtown of a Mediterranean type climate city

Have you been asked to move yet ?

@@albertawheat6832 the new plan is to get us out by 2025

Drug addicts, debt rollercoasters, alcoholics, etc... those people didn't look "healthy" at all to be honest... With no taxes and pretty much no expenses I don't even understand, why the boats look like holes if they "work" normal jobs... No wonder they like to live "free"

The day is very near that they will pay severely for that!

same.

Yeah it was Vice. The title is the same. They just added 2 more words to this title....

@@JohnDoe-xq8sk Every swan is white.

@@MistinIndia um what? Also no there's black swans.

With the exception of the environmental damage (raw sewage) & property damage, absolutely agree! Get some free conservation courses going & a community shop for boat maintenance/repair.

But he won`t have his freedom anymore!

Chances are pretty high that he doesn't have a car or enough money to drive to the next state. I grew up in California, and lived on the street for over a decade, then off grid for another decade before buying my first home. California provides a lot of assistance to people living on the streets which doesn't provide them with much incentive to leave. I was able to get free job training which enabled me to eventually leave California and move to Florida where I don't need any of those programs anymore because the cost of living here is next to nothing.

Where I am they have moved, and now our tourist town has a serious worker shortage, the homes here now are vacation homes or air bnb...not people who work and contribute locally.

Sf is exhilarating tho

That's why they don't enforce the law. I don't think they even have to move to the next port. They only have to move three quarters of a mile or something like that. When I lived there, you could anchor out for three weeks before you had to move three quarters of a mile. For the longest time, the first marina you saw when you came into Sausalito was full of derelict boats. The place was a mess, and that's what everyone was obsessing over. They finally cleaned that place up so now they can focus on what's left. There are probably plenty of people anchoring out there that aren't a problem because they keep their boat clean, and shipshape, or they anchor in more secluded spots; out of sight, out of mind.

you wish those boats can move :D Those are garbage mostly breathing slowly before they sink coz of neglected care ^^

@@vlads.3192 They're actually quite easy to move, and move far. I knew a guy who used to anchor out on Richardson's Bay 50 years ago. He had a 50' wood plank hull with some hoops bent over and sailcloth painted to shed water. It was ghastly looking, and then one day he decided to pull up his anchor and drifted out to the Sacramento Delta where he tied up next to an island and lived for the next 40 years. Whenever there was a new story about how much garbage had accumulated out in the delta, they would always show his place which was packed full of old derelict boats. it looked just like a defunct boat yard complete with crane barges, spud barges, and half a dozen old boats partially submerged in the tulles. He even started submitting bids to clean up the delta and one year he won the contract. He would pick up boats and occasionally just cut the line and let them sink into one of the many catfish holes dug by the army corps of Engineers when they were building the levies. Cha-Ching!

right

go outside your home. you can see this story almost anywhere!

arent they working and living "rent free" i think they kinda should have money

I wonder what ever happened to that idea…

My go to for quality reporting now...

so you think the community should pay for the up keep of these peoples boats? Let me know when this starts, I have 5 boats that need some free overhauls done.

@@mayerscd Well it’s not mean to say but I went to think that kindness goes further than hate or distrust or attitudes that fell in line with ideals that are more positive

Pulling up an anchor every few days is no small task especially for the elderly or those who are infirmed, weak, etc. Setting an anchor isn't always easy either. It doesn't really solve the eyesore problem, or the sinking boats littering garbage, etc.

I lived on the water for over ten years, but I never had a bunch of junk littering my boat so there was never any need to do much of anything when a storm hit other than maybe close the windows, hatches, etc. Electrasand or Incinerat toilets allow one to legally pump overboard. Living on the water can be significantly cheaper than living in vans, trailers etc., and there is nothing preventing one from visiting parks, shopping or visiting family. I lived in a van off and on for years as well, but vans have to be moved periodically as well. The same issues apply equally, but living on the water offers an extra buffer between you and law enforcement. There just aren't as many law enforcement agencies, officers, etc. to hassle you on the water. it's easier to blend in with the legal anchor outs than it is to blend in with parking on a public street.

@@shnarklevonbarkle110 If you are neglecting the expenses on the boat and anchor ilegaly.. it is.. but if you wanna keep your boat in a good condition, its way more, than paying the rent :) And these boats look like garbage. with 100 dollars a month, the boat could be pretty cozy... but these boats look horrible.

@@vlads.3192 There's no denying that far too many people have no clue how to save money. I lived in a somewhat depressed area of the Sacramento Delta for over five years and saw plenty of people living on the water who were able to keep it all together yet not create a mess for anyone else to clean up, and there is no way any of them would have saved more money by paying rent. The trailer parks were full of people who could barely feed themselves, forget about paying for laundry machines. Yet just about everyone anchored out on the water had more than enough money to spend on whatever they pleased. We all had cars, motorcycles, boats etc., a bar tab in half the places on the island etc. When you don't have to pay for rent, utilities, garbage service, etc. it can add up pretty fast. When you factor in a purchase price next to nothing, it's a no-brainer. Messy people live messy lives regardless of where they live. If these messy liveaboards moved into a house, their neighbors would be complaining, and have code enforcement out writing them up within a week. People need to ask themselves, "Do I want these people living next door or in the bushes in my front yard, or would I rather have them out in the bay where they all blend in with the other boats anchored out? Do you want them crapping in your landscaping or in the bay where no one ever sees it? Which scenario is more likely to reduce your property value?

Yeah I'm pretty sure you'd be pretty upset too after 16 times. After the first 5-6 times I'm sure you'd loose any sympathy you may have had. If some homeless man backed his RV into your car or house I'm sure you are going to be totally unsympathetic at 16 times of it happening.

@@i-vlog1994 one thing you should no about me is I have zero sympathy towards rich people. Actually it’s probably in the negative numbers. I care more for the well-being of those who struggle to live than the rich who live opulent lifestyles and peer down at others over their nose.

I agree with you, WatEva. People need solutions. Don’t just kneel on other’s necks, help people better themselves. Don’t just voice solutions, help people access these solutions. But I think some call that Socialism?? But, honestly, what good are we if we don’t help others?

The universe and reality is a repost..

They could save plenty of money by just providing the anchor outs with secure mooring lines, etc. I see your point though. People with lots of money expect to be insulated from poverty.

and what do these people do about their jobs when they move to another port?

They can take the tide pretty much anywhere within San Francisco bay and all the way up into the Sacramento delta. They could ride the tide all the way into Stockton. There are some absolutely beautiful areas to anchor out up in the Sacramento delta. They wouldn't be hassled by anyone because no one would see them in the first place.

Nope...they would have arms wide open.