Rescoring LSU's Controversial 198.475 Meet 

That 9.9 on beam for Aleah finnegan 🤦🏼‍♀️ with that big wobble and lifting the leg

Will you be doing a slow motion breakdown of all of OK’s routines from tonight?? Asking for a friend…..

I think there were few factors that made this meet especially egregious. 1. The fact the judges showed they knew how to take deductions with Ark (up until Beam) so they were blatantly using approach with the home team. 2. There is a level of forgiveness in typical NCAA judging, like flexed feet on beam series and direction on vault are not frequently taken for top 20 teams but thus meet was blatant landing deductions and beam wobbles that ignored... at that point why are scoring at all!

Would you also do a video for Arkansas during this meet to compare the judging between the two teams? I’m interested to see if the missed deductions were consistent across both teams

At this point, I don't think the scoring is ever going to change. It's going to happen at any home venue. I even thought Arkansas did way better than Bama a few weeks ago, Bama got some gifts, so, anyway. We can knit pick all day long, especially on tkatchev flexed feet and shoulder angles on vault, twisting early etc...

They were over scored highly on beam. Lifting your foot as a balance correction is over .1 so that alone saying that was the only mistake in that routine is crazy

Bars was the most obviously over scored in my opinion, but I also think Bars is commonly over scored for a lot of teams. I just hope this score doesn’t get a lot of people’s hope up for NCAA championships. I feel like LSU is always over scored at home when they don’t need to be.

You should do Ucla. Their vault rotation wasn’t scored correctly at all.

I haven't been watching gymnastics for that long and I always miss some deductions because I don't know enough but even I noticed things this meet that were obvious deductions that weren't taken. I would be interested to see you do this for UCLA meet against Arizona, especially the floor rotation

On bars, there is an allowance of at least 10º from handstand before any deduction.

I think yall missing the point yes other teams get over scored but they don’t get over scored to the point where they score a new program record with this mess…..

I do think judging on the spot is so hard, I mean you can’t see a replay or slomo. For us it is easier to see deductions in slomo. But still sometimes the judges make mistakes

Teams get gifts from home scoring, but no one can match the gifts the judges tend to give LSU.

Bro they get this scoring in the pac 12 we get 9.825 on 1 wobble routines

Thanks for the analysis. I learned from your critique.

I’m a noob but I was wondering on Savannah’s bars is it also a deduction to land with staggered feet. I’m just curious for my own reference because I try to score as I watch for fun

This video was well done. Some things are much easier seen in slo mo. Some are noticeable to anyone in real time, like steps on landings and obvious balance breaks on beam. Great analysis.

I really hated that meet. Obvious mistakes we all saw live not in slo mo the judges "missed".

Can you also do UCLA's home meet against Washington?

Id say the ball state meet but then again. That score will be dropped when they do the nqs

I’ve about given up on scoring. Here’s a 10, there’s a 10. Everyone get a 10.

Can you do these more often even if there not controversial I just love seeing normal people rescore college gymnastics

I watched the match and I agree LSU was overscored. Flexed feet, leg separations, crossed feet, and flawed landings seemed not to be scored. I saw flaws on both teams. Even with the differences on scoring, LSU still would have won. We do have to remember that we are seeing the match through the camera's eye, whereas the judges have to score it without benefit of replay. There were a hack of a lot of handstand issues that went unscored.

Please do Arkansas! It is always frustrating to see overscoring but uncorking was such an issue too. I mean they counted a fall and clearly lost, but not by that much.

I think on vault judges only focus on landing

I do agree with overscoring in this meet but I would also like to see you look at the same judges with Arkansas’ scores and secondly it should also be noted that you are watching it in slow motion and at an angle the judges might not be seeing. The subjective nature of gymnastics is definitely an issue and I agree that this should be corrected in the future as much as it can be.

Some of the vaults were definitely way over scored and so was bars. It takes away from fun aspect of collegiate gymnastics when judges favor the home team. We don’t want it to be like OU now. But I’m not sure if I’m also happy guys about OU joining the SEC next year

Every single home team is overscored great example LSU at FLA😂😂😂 This is nothing new and jas been like this for years...get over it.

I like this video because it points out what is going wrong in NCAA at a great example of many overscored meets. I agree with everything in this video. LSU is not the only team that is consistently overscored but no other team has such an obvious homescoring advantage. but one question is still open for me: on bars you are allowed to be 10 degrees of vertical on handstands and pirouettes. i saw a lot of half turns on the high bar that definitely didnt finish within 10 degrees from vertical. shouldnt that be a deduction everytime?

So maybe a little but they don’t watch I’m slow motion so easy to be critical when watching slowed down.

All the teams including Oklahoma are being over-scored. So unless you are going to do this with every team, let’s just say the scoring is fair.

You were pretty generous on bars and beam tbh but it’s ncaa scoring isn’t real.

Yes Indeed 💯 Agreed. You wrre on point with every Score, on every Rotation. In My Opinion. I Luuuuv Haliegh Bryant & to me, Shes the M.J. of NCAA Woman's Gymnastics & when shes Home, Well , Home Cookin Y'all, just like M.J. when he was at the Old Chicago Stadium & the United Cenrer. (I saw a lot of games between '95-'98 when I was staying with my mom in Chicago & he Literally Owned the Refs. More $$$$$$ to get More Sponsors to jump in for Ad Space & also of Course to Capture the All Important "Viewership" Judges Work for the NCAA, the NCAA is Broadcast on ESPN, So it just runs right Downhill. More $$$$$$ & Everyone Gets Paid.

My frustration with videos like these is you are slowing down videos and hyper-critiquing the gymnastics being done, but at what purpose? I 100% agree LSU was overscored, but it doesn’t take this to display that. 1) Judges see the gymnastics in real-time so errors get missed. 2) If the scoring is consistent amongst both teams, what is the problem? Ethical… no, but sports like these are subjective to what the judges witness. THATS ALWAYS HOW THEY’VE BEEN. Which there were multiple Arkansas routines that were also highly overscored. 3) This, at the end of the day, serves as a forum for hate. Very few people are in the comments supporting LSU and while it might not be intended hateful towards the gymnasts, see how a video slow-mo critiquing their gymnastics can feel pointed? In reality, LSU performed very well and put down a great meet. It’s just sad to see that undermined because of a score they couldn’t even control. Disclaimer or not, no judge is gonna see this and change their ways. Write a letter to the NCAA if it bothers you that much. Im sure you would spend less time doing that then you did editing this video, and probably get more out of it.

It’s almost irresponsible of u to do a video of judging bias controversy and not mention Oklahoma scores. One badly scored meet from LSU doesn’t compare to a decades worth of overscoring for OU. I notice people turn a blind eye towards OU but it still remains a hot topic for fans and there’s lots of real controversy surrounding that team. Foe goodness sake LSU has not never even won a championship after going defeated during regular season yrs ago so they get one inflated score that won’t mean anything postseason and will be dropped out of their calculations when NQS starts so is this real that controversial?? Stop being complacent and let’s get to the REAL CONTROVERSY!!

This is a great video! I heard about this score and was like 👀. To put it in perspective, this "alleged" 198.475 would take down every past National Title. Let's be honest, this LSU performance wouldn't take down most SEC Championships. I know that this LSU team was touted as the team that should take down Oklahoma, but let's not inflate scores to the realm of the egregious.

Easy to pick apart a meet in slow mo....

Of course it is hate! Let’s do this with every team. So easy to watch a replay in slow motion and pick things apart! And Arkansas did very well, but two falls on an apparatus puts you in a hole it is hard to come out of. But don’t try to say you aren’t hating when you picked one team to we score, you aren’t trained and you are watching replay in slow motion mo.

Please score Arkansas at this meet! I felt they were underscored

I was so frustrated watching this meet bc for the most part Arkansas did so good & were underscored for everything. Thanks for the vid!

LSU has been overscored for YEARS. So has Oklahoma (at least in national meets: haven't seen as much of their conference competition). There are certain programs that succeed on reputation and the belief that "they are the best," so their scores must reflect it. I'd like to see the NCAA switch to elite scoring for the women (as they already do for the men). It would allow for much more differentiation between athletes.

Sierra Ballard's sissone was every bit of 180 degrees. As to the others, should we have each routine played out in slow motion so that the judges can have a better chance to see ? I would say not. Give it up.