Resentment is the root of evil | Douglas Murray and Lex Fridman 

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I feel like some people are all of nothing. Jajaj it may be genetic. Like if I drink I drink a lot of not drink at all. It’s like some people struggle to stay on a middle point.

Been battling alcoholism for years, this is spot on. It's gotta be all or nothing....

@@renaltechsolution7611 maybe because middle points are so middling, they don't define you at all, you define them

Amen 🙏. Be sure and lift heavy weights. Becoming physically strong helps overcome.

I believe Douglas moderated a religious discourse between Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris a few years ago.

That's a tough one

@@SwapBlogRU I think that's how you can gauge the level of our civilization. It's far easier for us to forgive and to appreciate today than in the past. Mostly I think because we're wealthier. Not in terms of money, but in terms of truth wealth such as Heath. As we gain in wealth, we should be able to gradually forgive each other and eventually entirely forgive ourselves. For now though I'm sure many would wonder why they would need to forgive themselves? "For what?" They may say. And to me that's an indicator of how primitive we still are.

People also resent themselves. This is probably the larger issue, but we have to forgive others before we can forgive ourselves.

I think the reason for that need is that's how relational feelings work. When we suffer and feel joy, we want to share with others and feel like they "get" it. Resentment is a difficult feeling that tends to make people reject you, therefore the person that feels it might tend to become isolated, making resentment worse. We need people in our lives to be with us at our worst, not necessarily agree, but to help us get through difficult times. We don't do this well anymore.

Very interesting observation

If unchecked it rots

Listen......yes, but the mind is easily molded and the situation afoot is easily understood with the state of humanity. This always has been, currently is, and will always be a sacrificial warrior species. We find another planet? That just increases the competition. This is the way of life. Furthermore, human diversity is of no strength by default and when forced it can become a weakness. You're playing in the upper echelons of understanding reality when 11/12ths of the species doesn't live in reality and has no care or dare I say ability to draw the conclusions you did.

You're starting to understand the tragedy of the herd. There truly is not, never has been, and never will be a herd at the fundamental level, we are all just individuals of a sacrificial warrior species in competition for everything. This is a zero sum game.

@@brandonmay3094 "warrior species"!? For real? 🤭 More like a species evolved to living vicariously in the Marvel Comic Universe.

Tell us you got screwed over by the justice system without telling us you got screwed over by the justice system.

perhaps it's not given, but earned.

resentment = jealousy + hatred + hysteria

@@notloki3377 resentment is simply the feeling of being wronged by someone. It can exist without jealousy. Sometimes people are jealous and claim its resentment. but true resentment has nothing to do with jealousy.

@@lithium23 honestly, our definitions are close enough that i'm just gonna agree to disagree and not get caught up in details of sophistry.

@@notloki3377 I was also drunk when I made the original comment and now I am defending one of many yt comments I made when drunk. though I must say I came off better in this comment > others.

@@lithium23 kek

So is conservatism. All they do is complain about the liberals who rule over them.

I bet he was intimidating sitting opposite him. He rubs his face somewhat seductively.

British voice and mannerisms = James Bond character

insecurity on various levels

Well at the foundational level humanity is a sacrificial warrior species, so it's got something to do with that objective reality

@@brandonmay3094 naturalistic fallacy.

whenever bad things happen, there are two options. blame yourself or blame external sources. one of these you have no control over, and one of these you have control over. one of these makes you want to change others, the other makes you want to change yourself. if other people don't want to change, then you have to fight, which is basically the root of violence. the root of resentment is basically pain or fear externalized as lies, envy, greed, and eventually wrath.

an envious person will lie to hurt you, a resentful person will kill you.

They just angry when they get jealous. Some of them are envious of the better hunter/warrior in other words succes in what they are doing. That is also what possesions hint at: succes.

@@TheAdekrijger what do better hunters get? The best part of the hunt? What about the cattle? Jealousy only deals with relationships, that's what they don't have a word for the women can choose whom ever and whenever without any blues.

i'm ignorant about a great many things, but it doesn't drive me to hate anyone.

@@notloki3377 🙏

pain with a dash of external blame

Sure. Dude says resentment eats you up inside, so it’s wise to find reasons to be grateful instead. Then in the next breath he attacks deconstruction for failing to show gratitude for established systems of thought, etc. So it’s doubly ironic - tearing down one’s intellectual opponents for their habit of dismantling things, & betraying an obvious lack of gratitude (or even interpretive charity) when trying to illustrate one’s own philosophy of overcoming resentment. But if you have another take, I’m all ears.

@@GrantLeeEdwards I hadn't thought of that perspective relating to gratitude - but it's an excellent observation and ties in with mine beautifully. I was referring to his deconstruction of Dostoevsky's narrative construction in TBK - clearly the man will never be what Dostoevsky is to the literary form, but sees himself fit to pull him apart. Excellent discussion though. Lex always brings on guests who get you thinking.

@@imogensharma Agreed. Good pt. I haven’t read TBK, but I see what you mean. You probably saw the episode w/ philosopher Sean Kelly, but he discusses Dostoevsky & existentialism.

@@imogensharma I don't think they're disputing the validity of literary criticism itself in all instances, they're talking about the recent tradition of capital "C" Critical intellectual discourse that aims to deconstruct and dismantle the foundations of Western (and other) civilisations. Maybe I'm wrong though.

it's also the root of all good, so that doesn't really hold up.

@@notloki3377 I have always been fascinated by the biblical idea that before humans were self-conscious (in the garden of eden), that state of unconsciousness was Good.

@@imranzero it's not that that state of unconsciousness was good, it's that creation itself is good. Unconsciousness in that sense can't be good because it doesn't understand time, and therefore can't understand the distinction between good and evil. That's my take, but I think it holds up. Make of it what you will.

You might say camaraderie minus Christianity (that is, disparagement of the body/sex, guilt/shame, etc). Of course, Greek culture was also defined by slavery, the subordination of women & the un-free, & relatively compartmentalized relations among men. These involved intellectual exchange, informal education between youths & older mentors, & a kind of barracks life that was sharply delineated from domesticity. I would imagine homoeroticism was a function of those factors, along with the unabashed celebration of the human body. For the “no nemesis” outlook + radical democracy (that is, no vestiges of slavery & stuffiness), you might read Walt Whitman. He sings the body electric, of moving together through life w/ one’s comrades, & of admiring a spear of grass as much as the journey-work of the stars. No resentment there. Leaves of Grass isn’t gay, per se, but Whitman was, & homoeroticism is celebrated as perfectly natural in his poems. No coincidence that he’s at once the destroyer of patriarchy & slavery (literally, with the 1855 LOG & as a Civil War hospital aide), & the most Homeric of poets since Homer. Incidentally, there’s a reason why Nietzsche loved Emerson & Whitman. He wanted to overcome resentment, & they had the “gay science.” They knew how to live & love. (Nietzsche did a lot of “acting as if,” but he clung to aristocracy & old resentments, & could never quite bridge the gap between the radicalism of his philosophy & the darkness of his lonely, bitter existence.) I meant to add a quick thought, but, alas… TMI, FYI

The smartest people are brilliant manipulators.

The two seem inseparable. Some of each is justified, the absolutes of either are where evil lies.

@@LowPolyMolly what situation will make pride justifiable?

@@bcon2608 pride stems from resentment. Nice word salad. Pride in the proper context is hubris btw

Basedgod blessed thee

Do you mean the superbia type of pride?

either Lex is dumb and ignorant or he's following the narrative.

Most don't

And you do?

People do good things for selfish reasons.

​@@alexcargill3602 I'd go one further and argue that the route of all good is self interest.

Everything we do has selfishness or a selfish reason at the bottom of it, It's like, if you want to help the poor, YOU yourself have to care about the poor first, if you yourself don't at least care about them you wouldn't even think about their struggle

@@danivoguer4132 But why do you care about them is the point. It is possible to genuinely care for a thing beyond your own interest or even against your own interest. Human civilisation depends on such a notion - without it we're barbarians.

@@liamdevine8063 Maybe self interest is not the right word, my point is that everyone has their wants, their likes and dislikes, and what they think is true or right, and everyone acts based on them, so when a person for example donates to charity or helps the poor it's because they want to see a world where the poor are living more comfortably, the person would suffer more in a world where the poor are hungry rather than a world where the poor have some food in their plates, they do it to "ease their guilt" or make a world where they would be content from living in it, so it's a way to fulfill themselves even tho it's against their benefit or interest, at least this is what I'm thinking rn

"resentment is not a thing, it's a reaction to a thing" i see someone is playing the "i have no free will" card. being a victim to your own mind must be so difficult. i think you and him have different definitions of resentment. can you elaborate what you mean?

It’s a part of the human condition. Literally couldn’t rid of resentment with a utopia. Not to mention utopias are totalitarian so who cares about not having resentment if you have a tyrant ruler.

Evil existed before money was even a concept.

@@isvvx Wealth has been a concept as old as time. And wherever it goes, evil will always follow.

@@Supernautiloid Regardless, it still isn’t the root of all evil. A father seeking to murder his daughters rapist has zero to do with finances.

@@isvvx But hatred or revenge is a simple form of evil. Love of money is far more insidious. Examine the text... 1 Timothy 6 : 10 _"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."_ It's not money itself which is evil. Money is inanimate. It is the LOVE of money which is evil. It motivates people to lie, cheat, steal, and yes, even murder. It is the love of money which always ends in misery. That's why it is the root of all evil.

@@Supernautiloid So you’re saying no evil existed before someone loved money? Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.”