Responding to Catholicism Wow's rebuttal of Why I cannot be Catholic 

For the first 300 years of Christianity, there was no Bible as we know it today. Christians had the Old Testament Septuagint, and literally hundreds of other books from which to choose. The Catholic Church realized early on that she had to decide which of these books were inspired and which ones weren't. The debates raged between theologians, Bishops, and Church Fathers, for several centuries as to which books were inspired and which ones weren't. In the meantime, several Church Councils or Synods, were convened to deal with the matter, notably, Rome in 382, Hippo in 393, and Carthage in 397 and 419. The debates sometimes became bitter on both sides. One of the most famous was between St. Jerome, who felt the seven books were not canonical, and St. Augustine who said they were. Protestants who write about this will invariably mention St. Jerome and his opposition, and conveniently omit the support of St. Augustine. I must point out here that Church Father's writings are not infallible statements, and their arguments are merely reflections of their own private opinions. When some say St. Jerome was against the inclusion of the seven books, they are merely showing his personal opinion of them. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. However, A PERSONS PRIVATE OPINION DOES NOT CHANGE THE TRUTH AT ALL. There are always three sides to every story, this side, that side, and the side of truth. Whether Jerome's position, or Augustine's position was the correct position, had to be settled by a third party, and that third party was the Catholic Church. Now the story had a dramatic change, as the Pope stepped in to settle the matter. In concurrence with the opinion of St. Augustine, and being prompted by the Holy Spirit, Pope St. Damasus I, at the Council of Rome in 382, issued a decree appropriately called, "The Decree of Damasus", in which he listed the canonical books of both the Old and New Testaments. He then asked St. Jerome to use this canon and to write a new Bible translation which included an Old Testament of 46 books, which were all in the Septuagint, and a New Testament of 27 books. ROME HAD SPOKEN, THE ISSUE WAS SETTLED. "THE CHURCH RECOGNIZED ITS IMAGE IN THE INSPIRED BOOKS OF THE BIBLE. THAT IS HOW IT DETERMINED THE CANON OF SCRIPTURE. St. Jerome acquiesced under obedience (Hebrews 13:17) and began the translation, and completed it in 404 A.D.. In 405, his new Latin Vulgate* was published for the first time. *The word "vulgate" means, "The common language of the people, or the vernacular". The Decree of Pope St. Damasus I, Council of Rome. 382 A.D....🤔🤔

Can you give a robust explanation on why "ghosts" are not human spirits? I just want to sharpen iron on this topic.

Protestants concern themselves so much with finding the worship that fits best for them that they fail to ask God what kind of worship fits best for Him.

Also may I add I love learning about the different church’s.

So you agree with the council of Trent and Carthage you say😂😂your Funny They had the full Cannon and up till 1859 this was the Cannon of protestants, it was the Scottish Bible society that removed the dutero canonicals that's the start of your tradition AD 1546: At the Council of Trent, the Catholic Church reaffirmed once and for all the full list of 27 books. The council also confirmed the inclusion of the Deuterocanonical books which had been a part of the Bible canon since the early Church and was confirmed at the councils of 393 AD, 373, 787 and 1442 AD. At Trent Rome actually dogmatized the canon, making it more than a matter of canon law, which had been the case up to that point, closing it for good. The Third Council of Carthage reaffirmed anew, the Canon put forth by Pope Damasus I... AD 397: Council of Carthage III. "It has been decided that nothing except the canonical Scriptures should be read in the Church under the name of the divine Scriptures. But the canonical Scriptures are: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, Paralipomenon, two books, Job, the Psalter of David, five books of Solomon (Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom, Sirach), twelve books of the Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, two books of Esdras, two books of the Maccabees." (canon 47 A.D. 397). It is to be noted that the book of Baruch was considered by some Church Fathers to be a part of the book of Jeremiah and as such was not listed separately by them. The Fourth Council of Carthage in 419 again reaffirmed the Canons as defined in previous councils......

As an agnostic, I told people that I refused to put the fate of my immortal soul in the hands of fallible men. God showed me that I needed to put my soul in his hands, and he put me in the Catholic church with its 2000 years of tradition.. as the successor of the Jewish faith, which Jesus recreated in the new covenant. Catholics are the OG faith. Being outside that church is taking yourself out from the Bride of Christ and putting yourself under men, and men can lead you astray. Catholics aren't perfect, but no one ever said they were. Peter was given the keys to the kingdom, and throughout the rest of the gospels we see how much Peter kept screwing up. Jesus knew he would make mistakes. He still trusted him with His church.

what makes it the Bible 4TH CENTURY THE FIRST USE OF THE WORD "BIBLE": It came from the Greek word "biblos" which means the inner bark of the papyrus, paper-reed, from which paper was originally made, in Egypt. The Latin form "Biblia" spelled with a capital letter, came to mean "the Book of Books," "The Book" by way of pre-eminence, the inspired Book, etc. The Holy Scriptures were first called the Bible by St. Chrysostom, the Catholic Archbishop of Constantinople, in the 4th century. (12)😆😆

Trying to convince a skeptic is like arguing with a mirror. You both walk away feeling good about your positions, but ultimately nothing was accomplished. You need to open your heart to the Holy Spirit and pursue the truth with an open mind. We are all utterly hopeless and lost without the grace of God and humility to accept it. The water of grace will roll off a heart of stone, but a heart of flesh can drink deep.

Will definitely give this a watch after I finish part 2 of my response

Or a video on the difference berween orthodox vs assyrian eastern orthodox traditions, and if they are acceptable doctrines

I enjoyed your video.

@19:30 "it's on me to measure and weigh the bible." Are you saying that you get to decide what is scripture and what is not? Are you infallible? Or maybe I'm misunderstood you.

. Canonize your own bible. You are using the Catholic's Churches "satanic" selection of books, Here I'll help you get started. Start by selecting your own "inspired books". Below are the Books that were available for canonization at the time. You see, you have no right to tell us how to read our selection of books (27) and beat us over the head with it. It's not yours to do so.🤔🤔 30-60 Passion Narrative 40-80 Lost Sayings Gospel Q 50-60 1 Thessalonians 50-60 Philippians 50-60 Galatians 50-60 1 Corinthians 50-60 2 Corinthians 50-60 Romans 50-60 Philemon 50-80 Colossians 50-90 Signs Gospel 50-95 Book of Hebrews 50-120 Didache 50-140 Gospel of Thomas 50-140 Oxyrhynchus 1224 Gospel 50-150 Apocalypse of Adam 50-150 Eugnostos the Blessed 50-200 Sophia of Jesus Christ 65-80 Gospel of Mark 70-100 Epistle of James 70-120 Egerton Gospel 70-160 Gospel of Peter 70-160 Secret Mark 70-200 Fayyum Fragment 70-200 Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs 73-200 Mara Bar Serapion 80-100 2 Thessalonians 80-100 Ephesians 80-100 Gospel of Matthew 80-110 1 Peter 80-120 Epistle of Barnabas 80-130 Gospel of Luke 80-130 Acts of the Apostles 80-140 1 Clement 80-150 Gospel of the Egyptians 80-150 Gospel of the Hebrews 80-250 Christian Sibyllines 90-95 Revelation 90-120 Gospel of John 90-120 1 John 90-120 2John 90-120 Epistle of Jude 93 Flavius Josephus 100-150 1 Timothy 100-150 2 Timothy 100-150 Titus 100-150 Apocalypse of Peter 100-150 Secret Book of James 100-150 Preaching of Peter 100-160 Gospel of the Ebionites 100-160 Gospel of the Nazoreans 100-160 Shepherd of Hermas 100-160 2 Peter 100-200 Odes of Solomon 100-200 Gospel of Eve 100-230 Thunder, Perfect Mind 101-220 Book of Elchasai 105-115 Ignatius of Antioch 110-140 Polycarp to the Philippians 110-140 Papias 110-160 Oxyrhynchus 840 Gospel 110-160 Traditions of Matthias 111-112 Pliny the Younger 115 Suetonius 115 Tacitus 120-130 Quadratus of Athens 120-130 Apology of Aristides 120-140 Basilides 120-140 Naassene Fragment 120-160 Valentinus 120-180 Apocryphon of John 120-180 Gospel of Mary 120-180 Dialogue of the Savior 120-180 Gospel of the Savior 120-180 2nd Apocalypse of James 120-180 Trimorphic Protennoia 120-180 Gospel of Perfection 120-200 Genna Marias 130-140 Marcion 130-150 Aristo of Pella 130-160 Epiphanes On Righteousness 130-160 Ophite Diagrams 130-160 2 Clement 130-170 Gospel of Judas 130-200 Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus 140-150 Epistula Apostolorum 140-160 Ptolemy 140-160 Isidore 140-170 Fronto 140-170 Infancy Gospel of James 140-170 Infancy Gospel of Thomas 140-180 Gospel of Truth 150-160 Martyrdom of Polycarp 150-160 Justin Martyr 150-180 Excerpts of Theodotus 150-180 Heracleon 150-200 Ascension of Isaiah 150-200 Interpretation of Knowledge 150-200 Testimony of Truth 150-200 Acts of Peter 150-200 Acts of John 150-200 Acts of Paul 150-200 Acts of Andrew 150-225 Acts of Peter and the Twelve 150-225 Book of Thomas the Contender 150-250 Paraphrase of Shem 150-250 Fifth and Sixth Books of Esra 150-300 Authoritative Teaching 150-300 Coptic Apocalypse of Paul 150-300 Prayer of the Apostle Paul 150-300 Discourse on the Eighth and Ninth 150-300 Melchizedek 150-350 Preaching of Paul 150-350 Epistle to the Laodiceans 150-350 Questions of Mary 150-350 Allogenes, the Stranger 150-350 Hypsiphrone 150-350 Valentinian Exposition 150-350 Act of Peter 150-360 Concept of Our Great Power 150-400 Acts of Pilate 150-400 Anti-Marcionite Prologues 150-400 Dialogue Between John and Jesus 160-170 Tatian's Address to the Greeks 160-180 Claudius Apollinaris 160-180 Apelles 160-180 Julius Cassianus 160-250 Octavius of Minucius Felix 161-180 Acts of Carpus 165-175 Melito of Sardis 165-175 Hegesippus 165-175 Dionysius of Corinth 165-175 Lucian of Samosata 167 Marcus Aurelius 170-175 Diatessaron 170-200 Dura-Europos Gospel Harmony 170-200 Muratorian Canon 170-200 Treatise on the Resurrection 170-220 Letter of Peter to Philip 170-230 Thought of Norea 175-180 Athenagoras of Athens 175-185 Irenaeus of Lyons 175-185 Rhodon 175-185 Theophilus of Caesarea 175-190 Galen 178 Celsus 178 Letter from Vienna and Lyons 180 Passion of the Scillitan Martyrs 180-185 Theophilus of Antioch 180-185 Acts of Apollonius 180-220 Bardesanes 180-220 Kerygmata Petrou 180-230 Hippolytus of Rome 180-230 Sentences of Sextus 180-250 1st Apocalypse of James 180-250 Gospel of Philip 182-202 Clement of Alexandria 185-195 Maximus of Jerusalem 185-195 Polycrates of Ephesus 188-217 Talmud 189-199 Victor I 190-210 Pantaenus 190-230 Second Discourse of Great Seth 193 Anonymous Anti-Montanist 193-216 Inscription of Abercius 197-220 Tertullian 200-210 Serapion of Antioch 200-210 Apollonius 200-220 Caius 200-220 Philostratus 200-225 Acts of Thomas 200-230 Zostrianos 200-230 Three Steles of Seth 200-230 Exegesis on the Soul 200-250 Didascalia 200-250 Books of Jeu 200-300 Pistis Sophia 200-300 Tripartite Tractate 200-300 Hypostasis of the Archons 200-300 Prayer of Thanksgiving 200-300 Coptic Apocalypse of Peter 200-330 Apostolic Church Order 200-350 Holy Book of the Great Invisible Spirit 200-450 Monarchian Prologues 203 Acts of Perpetua and Felicitas 203-250 Origen 210-245 Lucian of Antioch 217-222 Callistus 230-265 Dionysius of Alexandria 230-268 Firmilian of Caesarea 240-260 Commodian 246-258 Cyprian 250-274 Gospel of Mani 250-300 Teachings of Silvanus 250-300 Excerpt from the Perfect Discourse 250-350 Coptic Apocalypse of Elijah 250-400 Apocalypse of Paul 251-253 Pope Cornelius 251-258 Novatian 254-257 Pope Stephen 259-268 Dionysius of Rome 260-280 Theognostus 265-282 Gregory Thaumaturgus 269-274 Pope Felix 270-310 Victorinus of Pettau 270-312 Methodius 270-330 Marsanes 270-330 On the Origin of the World 270-350 De Recta in Deum Fide 280-300 Hesychius 280-310 Pierius 280-310 Pamphilus of Caesarea 297-310 Arnobius of Sicca 300-311 Peter of Alexandria 300-320 Pseudo-Clementine Homilies 300-340 Eusebius of Caesarea 300-350 Manichean Acts of Leucius Charinus 300-390 Letters of Paul and Seneca 300-400 Apocalypse of Thomas 300-400 Freer Logion 300-600 Gospel of Gamaliel 303-316 Lactantius 310-334 Reticius of Autun 320-380 Pseudo-Clementine Recognitions In addition............. Not only by following that Council of the heathens is being against the early Christians who used Septuagint(even Jesus used Septuagint in fact), heretics are also approving the Birkat ha-minim meaning they also cursed Jesus and the true Christians who used Septuagint which are Catholics. How could you call yourself Christian by approving this diabolical Council that aims to counterfeit the Church and curse God? Apocrypha ie Dutero Canonicals ie Septuagint They are in the Septuagint. According to Jewish Encyclopedia, the Septuagint is "The oldest and most important of all the [Bible] versions made by Jews" Ha, so you are saying that Jesus celebrated books that were not of God? He celebrated Hanukkah (1 and 2 Maccabees), He had a bar mitzvah (Baruch). I could go on to list each book, but I'm pretty sure you are too blinded by the lies you have been told to even pay heed to the examples of Jesus believing they are the inspired word of God. if you were to actually look at the Torah you would find all seven of these books to be present. Are you going to deny that Jews celebrate the story of the Maccabees (Hanukkah)? Are you going to continue lying by saying that Jews do not read from the book Baruch at a bar mitzvah? It is you who has been deceived. Prove me wrong if you think you can.

well whether it is praying to the dead saints or asking them to pray for you, THE BIBLE says that God clearly says that those who communicate with the DEAD are an abomination unto Him. Right (hey, I can repeat myself, too, if you want to play that game), so when Jesus addresses the dead man Lazarus and communicates with him, he is committing an abomination. When Peter communicates with the dead woman Tabitha before raising her, he is committing an abomination (or are he and Jesus talking to the wind and not to the people involved?). And when Jesus talks to Moses and Elijah on the Mount of Transfiguration, He is committing an abomination. And whoever talks to the dead people who came out of their tombs after the crucifixion are also guilty of the same thing. And not just that; according to your “logic” in citing Deuteronomy 18:9, Jesus and Peter and these folks who talked to dead people in Jerusalem on Good Friday must have been either witches or soothsayers, or sorcerers, or mediums, or spiritists or some other such occultic category. So you prove from Scripture that Jesus and Peter are evil and of the devil. That’s no mean feat! One can only be awestruck at such chutzpah the person who seeks the medium to reach the dead or you directly communicate with the dead, it is an abomination to God. That’s fascinating. I agree about the mediums, which is the occult, and condemned, but what about both Jesus and St. Peter, who both “directly communicate[d] with the dead” and thus (according to you) committed abominations? It’s interesting that your unbiblical position leads you to this conclusion. Jesus (now He is a downright habitual sinner) did the same “abomination” on the Mount of Transfiguration, when He talked to Moses and Elijah: men who had been dead for hundreds of years (Matt 17:1-3). KJV uses the word necromancer in place of one who calls up the dead, which means the same anyways. Either way, God frowns upon communication with the dead, and it is present in Scripture. Peter and Jesus certainly “called up the dead” (in a very real, proper sense): they raised them. So did other disciples. I hadn’t heard before that Jesus and Peter were to be classified as “necromancers.” I’ll have to add that to the list of remarkable things I have learned from my esteemed Protestant brethren😆😆

THE BIBLE ....That would be the Word of God preserved by the Catholic Church as the bible, right? 4TH CENTURY THE FIRST USE OF THE WORD "BIBLE": It came from the Greek word "biblos" which means the inner bark of the papyrus, paper-reed, from which paper was originally made, in Egypt. The Latin form "Biblia" spelled with a capital letter, came to mean "the Book of Books," "The Book" by way of pre-eminence, the inspired Book, etc. The Holy Scriptures were first called the Bible by St. Chrysostom, the Catholic Archbishop of Constantinople, in the 4th century. (12)😂😂

Wow how can Mary hear your Prayers she isnt omnipresent she cant hear the Prayers of Millions ... Well She has an omnipresent God that wills it That's how 😎😎 Rev 5 :8-12 ➨ INTERCESSION of the SAINTS: REV 5 v 8... 8 When he took it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each of the elders held a harp and gold bowls filled with incense, which are the prayers of the holy ones. 9 They sang a new hymn: "Worthy are you to receive the scroll and to break open its seals, for you were slain and with your blood you purchased for God those from every tribe and tongue, people and nation. Only an Omniscient God can understand all the languages of all nations Nations..John Is a creature and Cant. Only an Omniscient God. 13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, everything in the universe, cry out: "To the one who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor, glory and might, forever and ever."Now John HERD ALL THIS all those languages of the earth. How did He hear all those Languages and understand them . God Had to have made it possible for John why couldn’t he do that for those in Heaven as well.. So why cant Mary and the saints hear since they have an Omniscient God to Make things Know to them the saints don’t have to Be Omniscient. God gave them that ability. What are , the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders doing with . Those Prayers in their hands the prayers of the holy ones.Why did God give those Prays to them to Give them to Him 9When he broke open the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar 8 the souls of those who had been slaughtered because of the witness they bore to the word of God.10 cried out in a loud voice, "How long will it be, holy and true master, 9 before you sit in judgment and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?"11Each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to be patient a little while longer until the number was filled of their fellow servants and brothers who were going to be killed as they had been. This Makes It Know to those Saints In Heaven That God would avenge the saints On earth at a Further tine The lord can Make know to those in heaven what happens on earth at a future time They are Now aware of thing going on Now do you think since they pray to the Lord they would not be praying to the Lord for their Brothers and Sisters of their fellow servants and brothers who were going to be killed as they had been to preserve them as the others had been . What act of Love are Christians told to do for one another Pray for one another Rev18: 19-24 What’s the reaction to those in heaven… To the destruction Of Babylon On earth if they aren’t made aware of what’s happening on earth. God made them aware giving Biblical proof that The Saints can be made aware of what’s taking place on Earth. They must have seen it Because allowed them to see it. Mathew 18:6-7 Do not harm little children because God loves them as well as Babes in the Faith Physically or spiritually. . 6But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Why does he say this “Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven. What does that mean the Angles are assigned to these children to watch over them and pray for them. They go before the father and Intercede for them . How do Angles know what is taking place on earth Angles are not Omniscient God thru the Holy Sprit reveals it to them they don’t have to be Omniscient. Luke 15:7 I tell you, in just the same way there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous people who have no need of repentance. How can People in heaven rejoice over someone coming to repentance? If they’re not aware of their repentance. Now since Mary and the Saints are In heaven are they aware of their repentance and rejoice. Those in Heaven must be aware of what’s happening on Earth. Luke 15:10 In just the same way, I tell you, there will be rejoicing among the angels of God over one sinner who repents." Those in Heaven must be aware of what’s happening on Earth i 8 2 14 The four living creatures answered, "Amen," and the elders fell down and worshiped. 10 You made them a kingdom and priests for our God, and they will reign on earth." 11 I looked again and heard the voices of many angels who surrounded the throne and the living creatures and the elders. They were countless 5 in number, 12 and they cried out in a loud voice: "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches, wisdom and strength, honor and glory and blessing."😆😆

I don't think you bore false witness against Catholicism. You represented our beliefs very well. Your reasons for rejecting what we believe was what I had quarrel with

So you are your own authority. Sorry pall i was hoping more depth to your arguments. Come back home

” ‘He that believes in the Son has everlasting life.’ ‘Is it enough, then, to believe in the Son,’ someone will say, ‘in order to have everlasting life?’ By no means! Listen to Christ declare this himself when he says, ‘Not everyone who says to me, “Lord! Lord!” shall enter into the kingdom of heaven’; and the b.asphemy against the Spirit is alone sufficient to cast him into hell. But why should I speak of a part of our teaching? For if a man believe rightly in the Father and in the Son and in the Holy Spirit, but does not live rightly, his faith will avail him nothing toward salvation”😆😆

What Holy Scripture has said Christ's Church would be: 😂😂 How Christ's Church has conformed to Holy Scripture: It will be founded by GOD: Psalms 127:1, Matthew 16:18 It was founded by GOD. It will be highly visible: Isaiah 2:2, Matthew 5:14 It is highly visible. It will have the authority: Matthew 18:15-18, John 20:21-22 It has the authority given to it by Jesus Christ. It will have a Father Figure: Isaiah 22:20-25 It has a Father Figure, as GOD always had for His people. It will be a Theocracy and not a Democracy: Eph 5:23-24 It is a Theocracy. It is governed from the top down. The blueprint for it is described in the book of Acts. It is blueprinted in the book of Acts. It will have priests, deacons, Bishops: Acts 6:1-6,14:22,20:28 It always has had priests, deacons, and Bishops. It will have Apostolic Succession: Psalm 109:8, Acts 1:20-26 It has Apostolic Succession. It will offer sacrifice every day in every place: Malachi 1:11 It does offer sacrifice every day in every place. It will be guided by the Holy Spirit: John 14:16-17, 16:12-13 It is guided by the Holy Spirit: Acts 15:28, Rev 2:7 Truths of GOD to be revealed to it over time: John 16:12-13 Truths of GOD have been revealed to it over time: Eph 3:10 It will be the Pillar and Foundation of Truth: 1Timothy 3:15 It is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth. It will be the guardian of truth: 2Timothy 1:13-14 It has been the guardian of truth for almost 2000 years. It will uphold Apostolic Tradition: 2Thessalonians 2:15 It upholds Apostolic Tradition. It will have Church councils: Proverbs 11:14, Acts 15:1-29 It holds periodic Church councils: Acts 15:1-29 It will be attacked from the inside: John 6:70 It has been attacked from the inside. It will be attacked from the outside: Matthew 5:10-12, 10:22 It has been attacked from the outside. All who fight against it shall be confounded: Isaiah 41:11 37,000+ Protestant sects is proof that they are confounded. It will be found in every century: Ephesians 3:21 It is found in every century from the day Christ founded it. It will last forever: Isa 41:10-11, 54:17, 59:21, Matt 28:20 It is still with us today from the day in which He founded it. There is only one Church in the entire world which matches all of the Scriptural requirements as listed above. Can your sect match even one of those requirements? That's very simplistic. In my view, to believe in Jesus is to believe He existed, He's the Son of God and God in the flesh, never sinned, is our only savior and He did and say things in truth out of LOVE, NECESSITY AND with a PURPOSE. That said, we have to look closely to his deeds, particularly about establishing a Church. Why did He instituted such a thing? What was the necessity for that and the purpose? So that we don't ever loose sight of his true teachings. And what did His Church taught? Well, all we have to do is analyse all the primitive documents from the first centuries and come to the conclusion what Church today teaches the same things as the early church (and there's only one that corresponds: the Catholic Church). In conclusion: to believe in Christ is to believe and hold fast to His Church. To believe in Christ and reject His established Church is a dichotomy/contradiction. Even Christ identifies Himself with his Church (Acts 9:4; 22:7; Lk 10:16; 1Tim.3:15)

@ 17 min, you state "I get to pick and choose, based on my love of God". This is an error. How can you learn what God has to offer if you choose to deny His teaching when you feel like it.

How many Curses do Catholicism have overall, how many in total?

OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH HE BUILD ONLY ONE CHURCH THROUGH HIS APOSTLE PETER ONLY NOT EVEN TO HIS 11 APOSTLES BUT ONLY ONE CHURCH, AND THE POPES ARE THE SUCCESSORS RIGHT FROM HIS APOSTLE PETER. NO ONE CAN BUILD THE CHURCH ONLY THE SON OF GOD CAN BUILD THE CHURCH. BUT NOW THERE ARE THOUSAND OF CHURCHES BUILD BY MEN THEY WERE REJECT AND AGAINST HIS CHURCH. When Jesus build His Church He gave the power and authority through His Apostles and sent them with the HOLY SPIRIT. John 20:21-22-23 - Jesus said to His Apostles "peace be with you. As the father has sent Me, even so I send you. And when He had said this, HE BREATHED ON THEM and said to them "RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT, IF YOU FORGIVE THE SINS OF ANY, THEY ARE FORGIVEN; IF YOU RETAIN THE SINS OF ANY, THEY ARE RETAINED". Mathew 16:18-19 - Jesus say "you are Peter, and on this Rock I will BUILD MY CHURCH and the powers of death shall not preva against it. I will give you the key of the Kingdom of Heaven and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven". Luke 9:1-2 - Jesus called His 12 Apostles together and gave them power and authority over all demons and to cure diseases, and HE sent them out to preach the Kingdom of GOD and to heal. Luke 9:5 - Jesus told to His Apostles "and wherever they do not receive you, when you leave that town shake off the dust from your feet as a testimony against them". Luke 10:16 - Jesus told to His Apostles "he who hears you hears Me and he who rejects you rejects Me and he who rejects ME rejects GOD who sent Me". Luke 10:19 - jesus say to His Apostles "behold, I have given you authority to tread upon serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy; and nothing shall hurt you". Luke 10:21 - In that same hour Jesus rejoiced in the HOLY SPIRIT and said "I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes; yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will" Luke 10:22 - Jesus said "All things been delivered to Me by My Father and no one knows who the Son is except the Father or who Father is except the Son AND ANY ONE TO WHOM THE SON CHOOSES TO REVEAL HIM". John 6:47 - Jesus say "truly truly I say to you, he who believes has eternal life". John 6:64-65 - Jesus say "but there are some of you that do not believe. For Jesus knew from the first who those were that not believe, AND WHO IT WAS THAT BETRAY HIM. And Jesus said "this is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless it is granted him by the Father". John 7:18 - Jesus warned us "HE WHO ON HIS OWN AUTHORITY SEEK HIS OWN GLORY, BUT HE WHO SEEKS THE GLORY OF GOD WHO SENT HIM IS TRUE, AND IN HIM THERE IS NO FALSEHOOD". John 5:24 - Jesus say "truly truly, I say to you, he who hears My Words and believes HIM who sent Me has eternal life; he does not come into judgment but has passed from death to life". John 10:25-26 - Jesus answered "I told you and you do not believe. The WORKS that I do in My Father's Name, they bear witness to Me; BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELONG TO MY SHEEP". Mark 13:5-6 - Jesus warned us "take heed that no one leads you astray. Many will come in My Name saying I am he and they will leads many astray". Mark 13:13 - Jesus told us "and you will be hated by all for My Name's sake. BUT HE WHO ENDURES TO THE END WILL BE SAVED". Mark 13:22-23 - Jesus warned us "false christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray IF POSSIBLE THE ELECT. BUT TAKE HEED, I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL THINGS BEFOREHAND". John 5:44 - Jesus say "how can you believe, who receive glory from one another and do not seek the GLORY THAT COMES FROM THE ONLY GOD?".

Great dialog..Biggest difference between catholicism and protestants or Lutherans or Baptists is Catholicism emphasis is on the authority of the church while the others emphasis is on the authority of the word of God (Bible). Jesus alone is our High Priest and intersessor with God our Father in whom Jesus says that there is nothing I do apart from the father. And, if you see Me you see the Father...

Let's go with your logic and your "study". Okay. "Catholic church is bad." Let's get rid of it. Let's erase it from history. Now, convince me of your position. Go.

Get your kids and yourself to read. Tell me how that confirms what you believe. This is not false information it can't be refuted, The Gutenberg Martys. these are not fairy story.

The orthodox church was originally called the Orthodox catholic church or Apostolic catholic- Catholic word is incorrect for catholics to use as the only church that excisted I'm 325 was the (Orthodox catholic church ) Or (Apostolic catholic church ) You should be called pappists strictly speaking as you follow what the pope tells,you. The pope of Rome left the other 4 patriachs ( affectionately called pope ) in the orthodox church in 1054 after the schism , and started Roman Catholics, The proof is this. The orthodox church till this day still have 5 popes Jesus is,the the head of the Church , so one person can't corrupt the church (its decentralized) you have one person who's considered infallible who has already corrupted it , (Have you read the notre aetate of Vatican 2 ? It praises Islam which is blasphemy as Islam , don't belive Jesus is divine ... I would recommend you listen to Jay Dyer who spend 10 years catholic and is now Orthodox he has plenty of information on the topic why he eventually realised the Catholic church was wrong- Read the original Nicene creed written in 1054 See the word Catholic (which means universal in ancient greek) The Creed is as follows: • I believe in one (1) God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth and of all things visible and invisible. • And in one (1) Lord, Jesus Christ, the only-be-gotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all Ages. Light of Light, True God of True God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father, through Whom all things were made. • Who for us men and for our salvation, He came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became Man. • He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and He suffered and was buried. • And He rose on the third day according to the Scriptures. • He ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father; • And He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead; His kingdom shall have no end. • And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of Life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son, is worshipped and glorified; Who spoke through the Prophets. • I believe in One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. • I confess One Baptism for the remission of sins. • I look for the resurrection of the dead. • And the life of the Age to come. From Google ask a greek if this is correct - Adjective. καθολικός • (katholikós) m (feminine καθολική, neuter καθολικό) universal. God bless To be taken with love in christ - I'm not judging..

OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH HE BUILD ONLY ONE CHURCH THROUGH HIS APOSTLE PETER ONLY NOT EVEN TO HIS 11 APOSTLES BUT ONLY ONE CHURCH, AND THE POPES ARE THE SUCCESSORS RIGHT FROM HIS APOSTLE PETER. NO ONE CAN BUILD THE CHURCH ONLY THE SON OF GOD CAN BUILD THE CHURCH. BUT NOW THERE ARE THOUSAND OF CHURCHES BUILD BY MEN THEY WERE REJECT AND AGAINST HIS CHURCH. When Jesus build His Church He gave the power and authority through His Apostles and sent them with the HOLY SPIRIT. John 20:21-22-23 - Jesus said to His Apostles "peace be with you. As the father has sent Me, even so I send you. And when He had said this, HE BREATHED ON THEM and said to them "RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT, IF YOU FORGIVE THE SINS OF ANY, THEY ARE FORGIVEN; IF YOU RETAIN THE SINS OF ANY, THEY ARE RETAINED". Mathew 16:18-19 - Jesus say "you are Peter, and on this Rock I will BUILD MY CHURCH and the powers of death shall not preva against it. I will give you the key of the Kingdom of Heaven and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven". Luke 9:1-2 - Jesus called His 12 Apostles together and gave them power and authority over all demons and to cure diseases, and HE sent them out to preach the Kingdom of GOD and to heal. Luke 9:5 - Jesus told to His Apostles "and wherever they do not receive you, when you leave that town shake off the dust from your feet as a testimony against them". Luke 10:16 - Jesus told to His Apostles "he who hears you hears Me and he who rejects you rejects Me and he who rejects ME rejects GOD who sent Me". Luke 10:19 - jesus say to His Apostles "behold, I have given you authority to tread upon serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy; and nothing shall hurt you". Luke 10:21 - In that same hour Jesus rejoiced in the HOLY SPIRIT and said "I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes; yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will" Luke 10:22 - Jesus said "All things been delivered to Me by My Father and no one knows who the Son is except the Father or who Father is except the Son AND ANY ONE TO WHOM THE SON CHOOSES TO REVEAL HIM". John 6:47 - Jesus say "truly truly I say to you, he who believes has eternal life". John 6:64-65 - Jesus say "but there are some of you that do not believe. For Jesus knew from the first who those were that not believe, AND WHO IT WAS THAT BETRAY HIM. And Jesus said "this is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless it is granted him by the Father". John 7:18 - Jesus warned us "HE WHO ON HIS OWN AUTHORITY SEEK HIS OWN GLORY, BUT HE WHO SEEKS THE GLORY OF GOD WHO SENT HIM IS TRUE, AND IN HIM THERE IS NO FALSEHOOD". John 5:24 - Jesus say "truly truly, I say to you, he who hears My Words and believes HIM who sent Me has eternal life; he does not come into judgment but has passed from death to life". John 10:25-26 - Jesus answered "I told you and you do not believe. The WORKS that I do in My Father's Name, they bear witness to Me; BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELONG TO MY SHEEP". Mark 13:5-6 - Jesus warned us "take heed that no one leads you astray. Many will come in My Name saying I am he and they will leads many astray". Mark 13:13 - Jesus told us "and you will be hated by all for My Name's sake. BUT HE WHO ENDURES TO THE END WILL BE SAVED". Mark 13:22-23 - Jesus warned us "false christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray IF POSSIBLE THE ELECT. BUT TAKE HEED, I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL THINGS BEFOREHAND". John 5:44 - Jesus say "how can you believe, who receive glory from one another and do not seek the GLORY THAT COMES FROM THE ONLY GOD?".