Rip's goal is barbell strength, big weight. I think that's what his point of view is on all training. So he's become a one trick pony of three sets of fahv - even though he knows about programming and other training. At one point he said warm ups other than barbell are a waste of time, conditioning is a waste of time, and mobility is a waste of time. I used to love listening to Rip but stopped listening (I learned about things other than barbells and saw his extreme bias) so maybe he changed his mind. He has a narrow focus and does his thing very well - unfortunately he has a hammer so everything looks like a nail. PS i wrote this comment before you made the same analogy about the hammer...
That's FAHV sets of FAHV, son. He's almost become a parody of himself at this point. It's one thing to preach simplicity in training, it's another to basically say the entire strength and conditioning landscape is pointless.
I had a discussion with a Rippetoe fanboy the other day. It's amazing how tunnel visioned his mindset was when it came to kettlebell vs barbell training. According to him everything but barbells(specifically kettlebells) are a waste of time and that if you're a real man you should use barbells exclusively.
Rip is clueless at best on many many topics and he should keep his mouth shut more often than not. Once he was commenting how it's virtually impossible to be top tier BJJ practitioner without barbell training. When I presented him with a list of at least 5 BJJ athletes who have no clue about barbell training or any type of weight training, 2 of whom are top 10 all time best, he basically started running his mouth....
Mark Rippetoe and Starting Strength is good. Dick Notmeyer and the Pacifica Barbell Club is good. Pavel Tastsouline and Strong First is good. Dan John and DJU is good. Convict Conditioning, Paul Wade (if he really exists), Al and Danny Kavadlo are good. I could really go on and on, but the point is to find what all of these things have in common - they all promote building a solid foundation, working hard, being consistent, and ENJOYING what you do. It's like the joke (and truth) goes, "What's the best diet? What's the best exercise? Etc.,"... The answer, "The one you'll actually do!" It doesn't matter (to a degree) whether you choose barbells, kettlebells, calisthenics, boxing, BJJ, etc. The only thing that really matters is that you do something! I've been fortunate enough to have a very broad range of experience thus far (personal training at local YMCA, sports performance unit at University, sports medicine, hospital acute care, skilled nursing facility rehabilitation, lymphedema management and wound care) and I can tell you there are so many people that would benefit from simply WALKING. If you enjoy what you're doing, then you're more likely to keep doing it and reap the benefits. I used to hate on CrossFit because it seemed so haphazard until I realized that it helped get a lot of people off of their asses and working on improving their well-being as a community, which is a good thing! If it works, then it works. Just my 2 cents.
I could not agree more. Do something! That is the mindset. That is why I like tools that you can use anytime anywhere. They promote consistency. They do not get on the way of everyday life.
Regarding you being too woke: I started watching your videos at the beginning of 2021, and just had them on in the background while doing other things. Then the algorithm played me your podcast from around the time of the BLM protests in June 2020, and your heartfelt response to that surprised me so much, I began paying more attention. In my ignorance, I had assumed that since you were a middle-aged American man in Utah, you would be on the side of the police and be ranting about looters, destruction of property and such. Anyway, you won me over at that moment and since then I've been tuning in weekly. I lost 50lbs due to your ES4FL program, I subscribed to DJU and I bought your new book. Stay "woke", Dan.
Dan said a while back that to get strong you need to pick heavy things off the ground, lift them overhead and carry them around. Pretty much what we've done in the vehicle repair shop since I was an apprentice. To some degree, weight is weight. Lifting and installing even a moderate sized car transaxle is much harder than picking up a barbell of the same weight.
First and foremost Dan: I'd like to congratulate you (again!) on your highly improved production quality. From the thumbnails to the camera quality, you've taken big leaps and it's awesome to see for two reasons: a) More people tune in to an actual expert b) it pushes me (and other creator's hopefully) to stay on top of our game as well! As for Rip's comments: In my research process, I've stumbled over his video and decided to offer some comments on it. I'm a bit arrogant here by claiming that my reaction broke this story as his initial video seems to have only reached his dedicated "In-Group". I highly suspect that his disdain for kettlebells has to do with politics (USA VS. SOVIET/RU) which I've unfortunately come across a couple of times. His opinion seems shortsighted on the other hand, yet it might also be a planned marketing strategy on the other. I totally agree with your sentiment on the fact, that "going against a popular thing (or a person)" grants views, clicks and likes. I myself (and probably many others) clicked on your video to hear your response to Mark's comments. This is an unfortunate reality in today's day and age of shortened attention spans, enhanced tribalism through televised drama and the social media-enabled, human addiction to a constant exposure of dopamine kicks. For us small creators, this means that must capitalize on this reality (which seems to have been true for ages but has exponentially grown since the dawn of the internet) to get our message out. I believe there's a good and a bad way to do it with a tightly knit rope between the two. Whether Mark's intentions are for clicks or he despises kettlebells out of a myopic or political bias: I value his opinions on barbells and consider his book "Basic Barbell Training" a prerequisite for everyone who wants to understand or teach the Squat, Deadlift or Bench Press. I read his book at least two times and continously go back to it for reference. It requires some mental gymnastics but it's possible to listen to an expert, entertain his thoughts and still form a differing opinion without holding a dismissive grudge. - Gregory
Lebe Stark once again "Nails It" ... I like Dan John, am an older (60) ex-athlete and appreciate his fine tuned knowledge and have first hand experienced the transformative benefits of Kettlebell & Functional training since turning 50 ten years ago. Barbells are great when young under 40 for building mass & extreme power, but LONGEVITY, mobility & functional strength are the ultimate goals!
With the AB wheel, I have seen people recommend that in your first few workouts with it, you limit the distance of the rollout by rolling the wheel into the wall a foot or two from where you are so you don't go too far in your initial sessions. After you get stronger and accustomed to it, lengthen the distance of the rollout. Hope that helps!
Huge opinion about Rippetoe is that his knowledge is very limited (some of it is platantly wrong). I very much I support this statement. Dan John on the other hand is one of the good ones. Thanks for being a voice of reason.
Rippetoe is a Type 1 if you know the Enneagram personality types. Type 1's are perfectionists who only see their way as the only 'right' way of doing things, and Dan you come off as a type 9 (peacemaker) who typically considers alternate ways of doing things.
I suspect that being a highly opinionated, somewhat dogmatic curmudgeon is a key part of Rippetoe’s image and the SS brand. I don’t get the appeal, but many of his fans seem to like it. He characterizes it as “narrowcasting”, to make himself seem more elite.
I had a discussion with a Rippetoe fanboy on another video the other day. It's amazing how tunnel visioned his mindset was when it came to kettlebell vs barbell training. According to him everything but barbells(specifically kettlebells) are a waste of time and that if you're a real man you should use barbells exclusively.
It’s weird too how a lot of his followers talk like him too. Do they know he’s just a man, who competed at a somewhat low level in a fringe sport and hasn’t trained anyone of note to high or elite level
I love the content. Can I please just ask that you raise the volume a little? I have to turn it up to hear you which is fine until an advert comes on and blows the headphones out of my ears! Again really appreciate you your knowledge.
Dan John doesn't need to be any one else but Dan John no matter who or how many watch him if you stay true to yourself then one day you might be as good as Dan John respect !
With the ab wheel, I don’t do more than 5 reps in a set. They just destroy rib connecting tissue. I also lived on Bill Star’s The Strongest Shall Survive program. But that’s all I did. Strong as all get out in the gym but average on the football field.
@@DanJohnStrengthCoach Not at all, it's just I had to wait the whole week for it. I don't know, even if the questions are repeated (and they are), your podcast puts me in a good mood. Hence "Christmas" . Cheers
I think Rippetoe just like to provoke. When you watch him coach people in the gym hes like a little puppy being very tuned to the client. But he is very tired of all the nonsense in the business. I can take myself as example. I trained for 3-4 years before starting strength. After getting on the program I advanced in my lifts just after 2 weeks. I just didnt get anywhere before. But the same effort, feeling as I hade excerted myself equally before as after. Easy, predictable result is what Rippetoe is after. I found it highly motivating to being able to add weight on the bar week after week. His technique for the lifts are really good for safety and strength. Just no bullshit. Remember they use the same method for those that are 18, 30, 40, 60, 70, 80 and even 90 year olds. With very good result! I dont think hes against anything per say. But in his mind the most efficient way to build a strong functional body are those barbell movements. Most who critize him havent read the book, tried the method or listened to much of what hes said.. like it is with most things today.. I dont do the starting strength program or listen to much of him anymore but he got me on the path to a better way of approaching strength training.
I dont know you or mark but mark seems to play up to the texas tough man image but that holds him back compared to you,as you say everything works for a while,im a tradesman and what i was always told u learn from everyone good or bad ,if there good how to do it rigth,if there bad then what not to do, never dissmiss an opinion if its rigth or wrong, be open to ideas till there proved wrong
Huge opinion about Rippetoe is that his knowledge is very limited (some of it is platantly wrong). I support this statement. Dan John on the other hand is one of the good ones. Thanks for being a voice of reason.
