Restarting a Horse with No Name 

The art of the possible!! You are clearly a master practitioner!!

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Love Arabians!❤ I relate to your history ❤

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I gain a lot from both of you gentlemen's videos. Appreciate you guys ✌️

Its called a cricket. It’s attached to the bit. The horse is rolling it with his tongue.

@@Paul11B2P thank you, paul i should know this by now, but will remember next time

May I ask how you start your horses and how many you have started in your life? Also how do you teach your horses to deal with things like getting caught in a fence or in brambles?

@@PatnDebPuckett Yes, you may. I'm happy to talk about my experience with horses. I've never started a horse. I don't teach them how to deal with things like that. I don't have any horses of my own. I'm 69 years old. I fell in love with horses in my 50s when I got a chance to become involved with EGE, Equine Guided Education. I fell totally in love with horses. I'm no longer doing that, but I'm taking horse lessons. I say horse lessons, as I'm not riding at this time, partly due to hip pain I've been having, and also because they don't need me to get on their backs, and I don't really want to at this point. I'm really happy spending time with them on the ground. I love it, actually. It's about me communicating back and forth with the horse, not me trying to make the horse submit in a way that stresses him or her to the point of sweating as the colt was doing. My lessons are in an arena; there is an indoor and outdoor. There is pasture land where the arena owner's horses live. I don't see any of the horses getting caught in the fencing, or in brambles. The fencing and the area is set up to be safer for the horses than that. Where I went for EGE, that was also set up in a way that it wasn't likely a horse would get caught in the fencing or brambles, including that it was safe for a blind horse, blinded from a man beating him before my EGE facilitator took him. I know a little bit about he was "started." He was semi-feral when he was beaten. It was a person from a musical family who found him after he was beaten. She got a vet to treat his eyes so he can see some shadows through one of them and got hay helicoptered in. As I said she's from a musical family. She sang to to him. That was her way. I think he was about 2 years old when he was beaten. I don't know how old he was when I met him. He's very comfortable with people around him, humans who are kind to him. We got him used to a person getting on his back (l learned to turn around backwards on him, facing his tail), all the while making sure whatever we did, it was a good experience for him, certainly no making him nearly lose his balance with a rope around his feet. It was about trusting (the trust going all around). He knows how to get around the pasture. He can somehow tell where the fences are. The other horses in the herd also have interesting histories, but with all of them, it's been with the horses' interest in mind, with the intention of it being a good experience for them. "Coddling" isn't always in the best interest of the horse; sometimes that is for the human, so it wasn't about that. What I was taught in EGE was to ask "what's in it for the horse?" So now, in my lessons, I watch how my instructor trains the horses when I can. I've not seen her put a rope around a horses foot to make "it" submit. I've seen her lunging horses, which she is now teaching me to do. Again, it's about communication between me and the horse, which I love. Thank you for asking your questions.

@@carolmandiann I'm glad that you took the time to respond. Through dialogue, there is the possibility of nurturing understanding. I have some insights. First, I admire people who take the time and considerable expense to try to help horses that have had a bad life. In the same situation, I probably wouldn't have ever ridden the horse that was blinded but that's just me. So here is my perception of your horse world. In it, you view horses as pets and you strive to control their environment to the extent that you remove any and all hazards and you don't have any expectations of them. That is fine and I'm sure it gives you great joy. Now I want you to take a peek into my world. In my world, we use our horses as partners in our work. We need them in order to take care of cattle. We ride our horses through rough country to where the cattle are, often miles away from any facilities or road. Once we locate the cattle, we ride through them to see if any of them are sick or injured. If any of the cattle need attention (remembering the distance from any facilities), we rope them and tie them down to give them a shot, pull a calf, etc. Keep in mind that these cattle aren’t docile. We also need to inventory the grass and possibly gather the cattle to move them to a better location. So our horses don't live in a world where there are no unexpected hazards. Our horses know how to do their job and bring us home safely. Most of our students either have similar jobs or they like to trail ride which is basically doing what we do without the cattle. Our job is to prepare our horses for a world like the one I described. Kind of like a parent making sure their child knows to stay out of traffic and not to touch the hot stove. We could build a fence around the stove and never allow them outside where they might wander into the street but we choose to educate our horses instead. Now I'll tell you some personal experiences...first, I was trotting across the Arizona desert looking for some cows when my good horse Uma stopped dead in her tracks. I looked down and discovered she was standing in a ball of old barbed wire that was hidden in the dry grass. She knew to stand perfectly still while I got off and extricated her from the wire. Then I got back on and we went on with our day. There wasn't a scratch on her. Imagine if she was ill prepared for something like that? My second story, lest you think that our horses hate us and hate their jobs, is that I can go down to the turn out (we don't have grass pastures where we live), and our horses and mules will walk to me to get caught. I don't think they would do that if they lived in terror. They are soft eyed and everyone wants to go do something, preferring my company to lounging around in the sun. We've also had countless testimonies from past students about a horse who got caught in the fence or stuck somewhere and waited patiently for the owner. We've also heard stories of horses that have fallen, their rider's foot getting stuck in the stirrup, and the horse stood still while the rider got unstuck or someone came to help. These horses are true partners. They learned to be unbothered by the unexpected through being exposed to different situations. They understand that their rider won’t ever ask them to do anything that they aren’t prepared for. They have a relationship of mutual trust. One more story and I'll quit. We met a man who worked for a well known "horseman" who is nothing more than a snake oil salesman. The man we met was the true horseman behind the scenes. He had such compassion and feeling for the horses he rode that it was easy to see. He told me that his horses put their lives in his hands and he puts his life in theirs. That's the kind of relationship that we strive for.

@@PatnDebPuckett So interesting. We all live different lives. We have different ways of doing things preferences, lifestyles, personalities, and differing ways we were raised that all come into play. I just don't have the kind of personality where I would wrap a rope around a horse's foot. I do have the kind of personality where I enjoyed learning to ride the blind horse. That's my preference, what is meaningful to me. Okay, so the blind horse's name is Sweetheart, which is not a "cutesy" name, but one descriptive of his personality. He's not "used" for cattle work, of course. I don't do cattle work. What I seek from horses is not for them to work for me, but instead it's a healing experience I'm after. By the way, I've had to move on from the EGE experience to what is currently groundwork with lesson horses, which I thoroughly enjoy. My instructor is who trains them, though I am asked to support their training, but I also do things according to my personality, sometimes doing things like acting silly in front of a horse. I'm enjoying getting to know each horse's different personality. One is very patient, while another isn't. They each have different levels of energy and ways of moving. They have different levels of responsiveness to me. One will follow me around the arena; another doesn't want to be led. I find this all fascinating. This is a different thing than cattle ranching. It's what I've chosen. One thing is that I'm not directly responsible for the horses. They are not my own horses. Other people are responsible for their main care and living environment, how they train them, or choose not to. I just take lessons, or come for sessions. Thank you so much for this enlightening discussion.

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washing machine.... funny !

"I don't do chaos," yet you created it.☹

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