Restoration of 1951 Vincent Rapide - Part 16 - Timing Chest #2

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Continuing to explore the inside of the timing chest and systematically removing and inspecting the pinions.
Everything seems to be much better than I anticipated when first opening up the timing cover.
There are a few questions still to be answered:
1. Should there be a thrust washer on the INSIDE of the main idler? The books say a shim is only needed whenever an alloy idler is installed. This bike came with an inside thrust washer, so it’s possible that this washer is taking up the needed end play. Most likely I will keep the washer on the inside, to minimize wear on the alloy boss.
2. Is the cam wear on the faces / flats of the cam followers acceptable? Or should I dress them up or replace? Can I replace cam followers individually or must I buy a full set?
3. Does the slot in the timed-breather spindle look okay? Is it orientated correctly?
4. Should I carefully inspect anything else that is significant now that the timing case is open?
Please note that this is how I approach some of these maintenance jobs, so please remember to consult your owners manuals.
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@SLED649 8 месяцев назад

I was a youngster in the mid seventies when I was working for Sydney Biberman “Big Sid” as he was known by & he introduced me to the world of Vincents & a sundry of other British machines. Sid was a very good mentor on & taught me some very valuable lessons on the care & feeding of Vincents. Watching your videos brings back some of those wonderful memories! Thank you!👍

@johnmcclain3887 2 года назад

I can only echo what Scott Cary says. I've been interested in these over fifty years, only just got to see the insides. It's nice to see in metal, what I've studied in prints since my teens. Thanks for showing this off.

@rscaryrsc 6 лет назад

It is very interesting to see how it was designed. There are more parts than I had imagined for the valve train. It is different from anything I’ve worked on. Excellent video.

@thomastraddles1204 3 года назад

very nice video - thank you

@54macdog 6 лет назад

That timing chest is a thing of beauty.

@453421abcdefg12345 6 лет назад

That looks very much better than I thought it would, I notice that the inside of the timing chest has been painted, some crankcases were porous and I think this would have been a cure for that. Very nice to see you have a steel idler, that is a very nice feature, much better than the alloy idler which tends to wear and turn your oil into silver paint, the cams look very good as well, but I think I would consider putting new followers in as they are not that expensive, the cam follower on No1 cylinder has gone through the case hardening and really needs replacing, given that the cams are so good you may as well put in the new cam followers, some rebuilders stellite the faces up, but for the same cost you replace with new. Do check to see where the oil holes are on the cam spindles, if the holes are at the high pressure side it can restrict the oil supply. You are doing a good job there Brian, I can see you are enjoying it. Chris B.

@TheMightyGarage 6 лет назад

Thanks a lot Chris for this advice. I really appreciate it. Cheers, Mike

@453421abcdefg12345 6 лет назад

MiTy: what I neglected to say was that the oil holes should be at the bottom!

@TheMightyGarage 6 лет назад

Thanks Chris, cheers, Mike

@ollimakkonen6481 4 года назад

This reply comes a bit late, but I fully subsribe to the theory of the teeth on alloy idlers wearing and the shavings being later found happily circulating in the oil supply. Initially, I was of the opinion that the alloy shavings were originating from a part of the casings, but after careful consideration of various possibilities, finally concluded the idler teeth were the culprit. After a new idler was obtained all the way from England, the problem did not return. At the time I resided in Australia and were involved with these extremely well built engines for some years. Many thanks for filming this series, and I'm most happy to note that your work is of a high standard indeed.

@tubadude905 4 года назад

Extremely interesting process...

@tadpoles10 6 лет назад

Coffee break over watching this, thanks for sharing Mike. atvb t ..

@TheMightyGarage 6 лет назад

Hehe, thanks Terry. Best wishes, Mike

@clivedavis1622 4 года назад

Built like a big watch

@johncrowley5612 3 года назад

This randomly popped up in my YT feed, subscribed immediately. I noted that the pushrod tubes on the rear cylinder did not extend so far into the cases ss you noted on the front. Please excuse if this is addressed in subsequent videos, I have a lot of catching up to do.

@TheMightyGarage 3 года назад

Thanks a lot John for subscribing. I hope you like the videos. Cheers, Mike

@Wooley689 6 лет назад

Stumbled up on this, very interesting to say the least.

@jennychiltoon7130 6 лет назад

What a beautiful voice.

@threepot5874 3 года назад

Interesting.

@swooshdave 6 лет назад

You need to borrow my dial indicator to check end float. Feeler gauge won't work as well there.

@TheMightyGarage 6 лет назад

swooshdave yes please Dave, that would be great 👍

@bigred8438 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing this. Can I ask, do you know what it is that is painted on the inside of the timing case?

@TheMightyGarage 4 года назад

Hi Big Red, sure, a previous owner painted the inside of the cases with the red 'glytal' enamel paint. It’s used to help seal the porous castings and aid with oil flow ('windage'). It may not have been necessary but it shouldn't hurt. Cheers, Mike