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Retro Rifle--Rock River CAR A2 

Triple F Shooting
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Joining the Retro Rifle bandwagon again with a late 80's/early 90's setup. The CAR A2 from Rock River Arms provided a great deal of quality for the price point.

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@johnw4999
@johnw4999 Год назад
I raised my right hand for the first time on 21 Aug 1991 and hung up my uniform on 04 July 2020. I collected retro style guns I enjoyed during my tenure. Also, collected popular weapons prior to my time.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
Any particular setup stick out as a favorite?
@johnw4999
@johnw4999 Год назад
@@triplefshooting Probably my favorite is the M16A1 with the birdcage flashider and forward assist. Was iconic to me around middle school when I’d look up machine guns in the encyclopedia. Then went on to use one in Army basic, infantry school, and very beginning of my career. The A2 was around in limited numbers. When I went to a military high school, we drilled with demilled 03-A3s. I much prefer the A4 stock, lol. The “coolest” one is the XM177E2. This is the last one I’m looking for. Colt Resissue is an over priced joke. I didn’t care for the Brownell’s line only because of the NDS on the M16’s carry handle under the rear sight. FN Military series are basically the real deal and covers my M16A3/4 and unsuppressed M4 I started using ~’97. The last can I used abroad was a Surefire FA556-212. Dang that carbon lock, lol. Still, that wasn’t as cool as the XM177E2 with FA compatibility. Im liking the PSA H&R line so far w my gray M16A1 slick side (just as Eugene Stoner approved) and black w the forward assist. The history behind the weapons of WWII and the industrial machine to make top quality weapons is unfathomable in today’s society. Nothing like a wood and steel rifle/carbine and the smell of a nice walnut stock. Many in that generation referred to these weapons as a weapon made by a man, for a man, to K.. a man.
@AverageAngler512
@AverageAngler512 9 месяцев назад
Damn u were in for a while lol
@firemedic23-5
@firemedic23-5 7 месяцев назад
TTFYS
@MonMornQB
@MonMornQB 5 месяцев назад
@@johnw4999PSA H&R retro makes a decent xm177e2 copy
@vinceruland9236
@vinceruland9236 7 месяцев назад
Looks just like my pre-ban bushy. Love it.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 7 месяцев назад
Something about the old school simple feel that gets the blood pumping
@joelphipps21
@joelphipps21 Год назад
Love that rifle! The paint job makes it look is amazing. Awesome video.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
Thanks! Much appreciated
@ruddyfields
@ruddyfields 11 месяцев назад
can you tell me about the red dot make, model and what mount etc you used. thanks @@triplefshooting
@SHOT_GUNNER
@SHOT_GUNNER Год назад
Excellent work on that rifle. It's interesting as I used a Carry handle AR in the USMC 2002, ever since I have been out, that's all I have in my collection. Now it's considered Retro which I think is super cool, although it does make me feel old. I subscribed as you have an amazing channel and the information delivery is Top Notch. Thanks
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
Thanks very much for the kind words. I'd be lying if I said it's not a blast to make these goofy videos. Thanks for your service!
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 6 месяцев назад
I actually encountered a photo of a dude who had a red dot mounted on his M16A2 in Iraq and it was pretty cool
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 6 месяцев назад
I found the perfect grip that keeps the retro look. The Griffin A3 grip
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 6 месяцев назад
They are sweet. I have one on the ARPK right now!
@M81_WOODLAND
@M81_WOODLAND 10 месяцев назад
I was issued one of those enhanced LBEs. Sold it off at a garage sale along with a metric ton of other "retro" stuff everybody wants now (stupid, I know).
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 10 месяцев назад
I imagine everyone has let go of stuff that people lust after now. Hell, maybe someday people will even miss the ACU camo!
@earlmorrison8163
@earlmorrison8163 Год назад
Great lookin rifle !! I want one !! LOL Thanks for the video !!
@mahiddyjuanday6325
@mahiddyjuanday6325 11 месяцев назад
Hi there. I'm a Pinoy. I love your videos on RU-vid channel especially this one, to the fact is ill have one rifle like that but not similar in painting, i apply the Multicamouflage were in my rifle baby armalite.. God bless you always
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
Thanks and greetings! I bet the multicam looks good! God bless as well
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 6 месяцев назад
Fixed carry handles are so hot right now
@robertezell1916
@robertezell1916 6 месяцев назад
I have several all original A1’s in my collection. Yeah they cost a pretty penny back in the day. I’ve had these weapons 40 years now. Yes I have also used them in a sworn official capacity starting out in 1980, spanning a career that in one uniform or another that spanned over 30 years , many of those in what is now called something totally different than what we were called as so called "paid professionals ". The 177E2 was heavily used back then and then the Car15A1 and A2 variants. The biggest change that helped all 10.3" to 11.5" guns was the advent of 1/7 twist rate and 62gr through 68gr and then stepping up to 75gr and 77gr. The newish Mark18 is about the epitome of what this AR platform can do. The newest M4 true 14.5" gun is by far the best of the best for me but the M16A2 is hard to beat. It just plain smoked bad actors without the need to double tap.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info! I do imagine getting a 62grn round moving around 3000fps in the A2 was a major difference to whatever a 10.5" barrel puts out
@agent_espo
@agent_espo Год назад
Good video, I too enjoy the carry handle life
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
Thanks. I have a hard time getting past the looks and lightweight feel of the a1 and a2 receivers. It's like addiction once you get going. Now I want a HEAT rifle real bad thanks to admin lol
@rcairnut
@rcairnut 10 месяцев назад
nice gun, and I love the clones too
@Kevo1944
@Kevo1944 Год назад
I snagged a CAR A2 complete upper from gunbroker last year. Rock solid quality for what I paid for it.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
This was actually my first rock river and I'm really impressed for the $$$. Would like to find a full length a2 rifle as well some day.
@Kevo1944
@Kevo1944 Год назад
@triplefshooting same, that would probably be my go to for a 20' as well.
@richardturk7162
@richardturk7162 6 месяцев назад
I have put together quite a few retro style ARs of all iterations. I have always loved the carry handles models That is a nice A2 and very close the BHD era. I still have an ongoing Blood Diamond ish project that uses an older Rock River lower with a flat top Colt upper.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 6 месяцев назад
Nice. Watching shotshow this year, it looks like palmetto is literally just going to make one complete. Theyre even looking into making an LSW. My wallet is all sweaty just thinking about it
@user-so2se1ft4i
@user-so2se1ft4i 6 месяцев назад
That's usually the way it is.
@1001CP
@1001CP 10 месяцев назад
I got my RR LAR 15 at a police shootout training back in early 2000 put on by ex SEAL/Delta guys. Great training AND RR gave us the option of purchasing a flat top LAR with an add on rear sight yet a fixed post front for the price of just 300 bones. We could only get one or it would have been a shootout getting more. Anyway, I still have it and the quality is amazing basic, but super tight-no gaps wobble or silly stuff. I never had any firing issues in all these years. I keep it pretty stock with just a red dot added and a free float hand guard. It is seriously accurate even with a pretty nice single stage trigger. It just works and is a battering ram that hits anything you shoot at. I like my RR much better than my issued Colt LE rifle. The Colt was a good rifle but not near as tight as the RR or as accurate. I have tested weapons and ammo for the companies in arctic conditions in AK and was an armorer for many years as well as an instructor. One of my jobs was to precheck rifles/pistols before they went back to range staff for maintenance or turn in- some ugly stories there. Really good review of a mostly overlooked and underrated rife.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 10 месяцев назад
Much appreciated. When I was younger, my local gun store always made it sound like RR was the only way to go. Now that there are so many different brands of AR, I rarely hear anything or see RR rifles on the shelf. I was a bit hesitant at first with the purchase, but am extremely glad that I did. Thanks for the info!
@vermontvermont9292
@vermontvermont9292 5 месяцев назад
M81 woodland, lbv88e, fixed carry handle. How ive been training for the past 7 years. I use a RRA 20" Hbar. Its funny...the rest of the guys at our private range used to poke fun about my rifle, and gear. Now its all the rage lol. I also am a collector of gear from 1972 to about 2005. Ive literally had to turn the spare room into a huge storage space just for all the alice gear, lbv88's , alice rucks, poncho's, woobies, sleeping bags, bayonets, uniforms, you name it ive probably got it. I grew up with Alice, and m81. Its what I know, its what I like. To be honest my entire " load out " is an exact copy of the soldiers in the movie clear and present danger. Right down to the mini maglite with red lense. I use an m7 bayonet, um84 holster, correct iifs buttpack for the lbv88. The gear is still good quality gear, m81 is perfect for my area. I use a medium alice ruck with usgi m81 pack cover. I could go on and on. Just love seeing young folks getting into the stuff I grew up with. Seeing people finally realizing all you need is a basic set up, basic gear, and to practice. You dont need all that multicam garbage with a $10,000 optic, all kinds of NVGs, helmets etc.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 5 месяцев назад
Nice. I think finding a middle ground between super fancy kit and good training with the basics is the best way to go for most people. That said it's hard not to like the older stuff for its simplicity. Loses a lot of weight when you don't have a bunch of crap on the gun too
@vermontvermont9292
@vermontvermont9292 5 месяцев назад
@@triplefshooting plus the older kit has sustaining ability. Between the IIFS buttpack, and the medium Alice pack you could stay out for days and days. Something a lot of folks forget about. There isn't going to be instant re supply, or this great big bureaucracy behind you. Wait im starting to ramble lol.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 5 месяцев назад
@vermontvermont9292 that's an excellent point. A lot of modern kit relies on a Walmart trip between gunfights for more ding dongs and ho hos lol
@Ac.MillitaryPrepper
@Ac.MillitaryPrepper Год назад
Hello I appreciate your enthusiasm don't fret over the hight it's nothing bad and it's appropriate with that recoil and refactor I hope you enjoy the recoil don't worry about it being a 17 it's a very special projectile very nice wind factor on cases are sturdier that many others primers have a bit of a greater life span for reloading Try out the grbb46 Lar it's a nice one with some particular extras you will notice a bolt detach on the charger it's for using an old ww2 charger fitting
@jmmartin7766
@jmmartin7766 11 месяцев назад
As other's have stated: nice rifle! (I'm partial to M81 since that was my camo when I was in) & so painted my carbine similarly. Re: hight over bore-- it's really not an issue as long as you train enough to know where your holds are. If you're ever trying to shoot a bad guy who's holding a loved one hostage, or if your coming up against an enemy with chest armor, then you're really gonna want to know (with confidence) just where your rounds are impacting. Subbed
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the sub and the info! I agree that the height can be pretty easily worked around. I tend to shoot at the hair line when trying to make a clean t box hit at close range. God help me if I face a bald adversary though lol
@jmmartin7766
@jmmartin7766 11 месяцев назад
@@triplefshooting Lol-- I've thought about the same thing, believe it or not
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
@jmmartin7766 it's either a great minds think alike scenario or we're both stupid lol. Either way, it's good to have company
@jmmartin7766
@jmmartin7766 11 месяцев назад
@@triplefshooting Lol That you do. Keep training hard-- believe it or not, you may be very glad you did, very soon
@possumpatrol45
@possumpatrol45 11 месяцев назад
Based M81 enjoyer.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
Indeed. I need an A2 rifle now real bad
@leo78744
@leo78744 6 месяцев назад
Came for the RRA Rifle, stayed for the M81
@dixiegunnut1812
@dixiegunnut1812 Год назад
Love it!! Now I wanna make a video about my rifle!!
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
You should! Plus it's an excuse to shoot it
@af22raptor23503
@af22raptor23503 11 месяцев назад
Using the Carry Handle is cheaper than getting some of the Unity mounts for Aimpoint are the same Height as the Carry Handle just think about that the Delta Operators of Blackhawk Down were 30 years ahead of their time with carry handle mounted Aimpoint 5000!
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
It is pretty wild to watch everything just cycle around and around lol. A lot of it seems to be just chasing the next best thing to find out we had it pretty good before
@CandelarioSanchez-ji1qq
@CandelarioSanchez-ji1qq 9 месяцев назад
Love your content👊
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 9 месяцев назад
Much appreciated
@Op4Grunt0311
@Op4Grunt0311 6 месяцев назад
Lbv88 for the win bro I love that rig
@jason60chev
@jason60chev Год назад
I assembled a Model 605 Carbine, with upper/lower from Nodak Spud.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
Looks like Nodak is working with PSA now. Hopefully they can keep up with demand!
@JustAverageJeff
@JustAverageJeff Год назад
Would love to get my hands on a fixed carry handle upper. PSA has complete fixed carry handle models for around 1k.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
I hope they can up the production as they move along. Havent got to see one in person yet, but it's awesome that they're bringing out a few different models for different time periods
@stevenkuznar9165
@stevenkuznar9165 11 месяцев назад
Actually 1-9 twist is good for up to 69 grain. ..My brothers 20" A2 1-9 CL Bushmaster (90's) shoots Hrndy 75gr 1" shift of 62gr ball. Also you could have just bought a commercial spec Car15 stock, I have two.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
Well crap I changed the tube out for nothing lol. Good to know the 62 grn does well out of the 1/9
@Only_Trees
@Only_Trees 19 часов назад
The paint job reminds me of Rhodesian brush stroke, based.
@vermontvermont9292
@vermontvermont9292 5 месяцев назад
As for the holster, they do make an extender for it. Im sure you know. Theyre not always the easiest to find these days. They are out there though.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 5 месяцев назад
I finally found an extender and added it to the kit. Works pretty well
@vermontvermont9292
@vermontvermont9292 5 месяцев назад
@@triplefshooting excellent! I still need to get one for mine.
@darkogaurina4778
@darkogaurina4778 Год назад
Get drop leg panel for your um84. Makes more space on the belt and puts pistol lower.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
Definitely need to. Any suggestions on the best place to get one?
@darkogaurina4778
@darkogaurina4778 Год назад
@@triplefshooting pegasus tests maby? I m in Europe so....
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
@darkogaurina4778 you poor thing. Hopefully, you still get to enjoy some form of shooting over there.
@darkogaurina4778
@darkogaurina4778 Год назад
@@triplefshooting ONLY 10rd mags so......
@darkogaurina4778
@darkogaurina4778 Год назад
@@triplefshooting that might change, recently got a letter from military saying what a valuable human resources i am. Especially in current world.😁
@0mcparty145
@0mcparty145 Год назад
I'd like to see the painting video.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
I suppose I'll be painting my "go-to" AR next then 👌
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hwbqv9zDFG4.html Sorry it took so long! Finally got it done
@Ac.MillitaryPrepper
@Ac.MillitaryPrepper Год назад
In ww2 they had .21 and it was favored for accuracy
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
Not sure what you mean by .21?
@drewclifford5969
@drewclifford5969 Год назад
High optic mounts are better for body armor anyways.
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
Indeed
@ruddyfields
@ruddyfields 11 месяцев назад
can you tell me about the red dot make, model and what mount etc you used. thanks
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
The red dot is an inexpensive primary arms slx 30mm. It works pretty well, but I haven't beat on it or anything. It's sitting in a 30mm low mount on a leupold carry handle rail if I remember right.
@user-fb9cq6pq8u
@user-fb9cq6pq8u 10 месяцев назад
🇺🇦🤝🇺🇸 👍❤👍❤👍
@spaydoutdoors
@spaydoutdoors 4 месяца назад
Is height over bore the issue or resting the barrel on the barricade?…
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 4 месяца назад
At short distances (10 yds and in) I'm not sure how much deflection you'd see. For longer shooting I agree that resting on the barrel will change point of impact. I was mostly worried about seeing the target through the barricade slot when your optic sits so high
@ruddyfields
@ruddyfields 11 месяцев назад
I don't think that is an SLX or GLX please tell us exactly what it is and info about vortex mount
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-advanced-30mm-red-dot-sight
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
vortexoptics.com/vortex-tactical-30mm-riflescope-ring+vx_mount_option-Low
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
www.midwayusa.com/product/1009211218
@ruddyfields
@ruddyfields 11 месяцев назад
thanks@@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting 11 месяцев назад
@@ruddyfields no problem
@brazzy1467
@brazzy1467 Год назад
I've been trying to find an A1 upper receiver and it's next to impossible!!!
@triplefshooting
@triplefshooting Год назад
Check Heavy Armor Division on gunbroker every once in a while. They're not terribly cheap, but they make some pretty cool stuff. I think PSA is going to be trying to bring some to market, but I'm sure they'll be out of stock for like 2 years.
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