Actual Jack Pumpkinhead Stop-Motion Puppet used in the movie: www.propbay.com/original/jack-... The Nome King is destroyed when he inadvertently swallows one of Billina's eggs (in Oz, eggs are poisonous to nomes).
@@Dude-1234 He got two eggs in the eyes, courtesy of the Scarecrow, which, when I first read it, led me to suspect that the Nomes' fear of eggs was more superstitious than rooted in actuality. Perhaps at some point in Ev's history a Nome fell ill or died after eating an egg, but the cause was something else; nevertheless, the rest of the Nomes made a false connection.
+runetide Well, he wasn't planning on killing them at first. At first he was making them play a game to find the Scarecrow saying if they touch the ornament the Scarecrow turned into and say "Oz", then the Scarecrow will turn back where the Nome King was assuming they will lose with him having a room full of millions of ornaments never finding the correct one. But since he failed in them winning, he decided to end everything before Dorothy, Scarecrow, and the Gump find Tik Toc since they found everyone and just decided to eat them to finish everything. (Of course, he could have just used the ruby slippers to just turn all of them into ornaments instead of eating them).
one of the things I love about old movies is how they use stuff like stop motion and puppetry and animatronics and models it makes the movie feel more real because you can tell it’s real.
@@AidanSuperStudios Back then when wanting to implement some sort of crazy character like this you only had so many options, it was stop motion, puppets or costumes, usually a combo of the three like they do with Jack in this movie, because every discipline has its limitations. When CGI came along it basically replaced all three, but the problem is when you no longer have the constraints and sacrifices guiding your decisions it makes you less considerate of what youre doing on screen, that's why everything is CGI now, ironically resulting in CGI looking worse because the VFX artists are overworked.
@@paulmacartney8266 Correct, Sir Paul! When she was hatched, nobody could tell if she was a boy or girl, so it was assumed she was a rooster and she was summarily named Bill. When it became obvious that she was a hen, Dorothy put the "ina" on the end of her name to make it a girl's name.
Dorothy's face in those close ups is priceless. It's like her maternal instincts kicked in and she wasn't about lose a dear friend but her own actual child to frightening monster. Those "NOs" sounded real genuine, sincere and frightened.
+ghostdog2041 Well, maybe the reason he put Jack down very gently was either because he was getting weaker and weaker after getting poisoned by the egg or maybe it's like Lucinda Mobley said that he was scared and maybe he was afraid if he dropped Jack down hard, something terrible would happen to him (the Nome King) with Belina the chicken hiding inside Jack's head.
At first I was disappointed at the Nome King being killed by an EGG of all things...until I remembered this was the same franchise where the most iconic villain was defeated by a bucket of water.
Just shows you must never underestimate the simple things, like Sauron underestimated a couple of simple Hobbits. Or how Zorg's empire nearly crumbled over one...little...cherry.
They even have each of their own parallels towards the original: Dorothy - still herself Billina - *Toto* Jack Pumpkinhead - *Scarecrow* Tick-Tock - *Tin Man* Gump (Moose Head) - *Cowardly Lion* Princess Ozma - *Glinda / The Wizard* Mombi/Nome King - *The Wicked Witch of the West/East* Wheelers - *Flying Monkeys* Eggs - *Water*
@@mohamadafifazizizaidi5625 Except that all of those characters are straight from the books. Ozma is not Glinda or the Wizard, she is Ozma, the one and only true ruler of Oz. P.S.: Winged Monkeys.
As frightening as this film is, it does stay more true to the source material of Frank L. Baum. If you read the work this sequel is based on, it is quite nightmarish as well. I think he would've approved of this if he saw it.
The Nome King was hardly the most powerful creature in the world, or even on the Continent of Imagination. And if this Nome King is anything like his literary forebear, he'll be back!
This was always the scariest scene to me back in '88 when I was 5. It always seemed so creepy, and cool, and gross all at the same time. It gave me night terrors. Rock people would chase me.
Same. And I was 13 when I first saw this. Now I'm 14. Being naïve and autistic, I was almost put of the Judy Garland film. If it weren't for Jack Haley, I would have lost Oz as an interest.
@@phillipwalling7470It certainly appears that they're all dying when they say "Poison," but according to the movie storybook they only left the room, it doesn't say what happens to them after that.
I do enjoy Wizard of Oz...but the second one's darkness in tone brought something special to it. I like that they used the obscure characters of the other books, Jack being my favorite.
Any other movie I wouldnt have been able to take the clay animation seriously, but these are knomes, they are supposed to be clay lol. Further, they are basically the keepers of a fantasy world and the detailed, realistic faces also helped.
+Mark Casadevall Actually, that movie was called "Legends Of Oz: Dorothy's Return." If anyone found that movie awful, maybe it's because the ruby slippers were not on that film and the ruby slippers weren't ever mentioned on the film. (Legends Of Oz: Dorothy's Return is an animated film probably picking up after the events of "The Wizard Of Oz" ignoring the events of "Return To Oz.")
My point exactly. Maybe they got in trouble for scaring children and were very careful with TNBC. To be honest, after watching this nightmare fuel, I certainly was not going to watch a stop-motion horror movie. But I guess after bringing me back to the Judy Garland film, Jack Haley encouraged me to give it a go. (Sort of. After I realised I had a crush on him, I felt very connected to the TNBC character Sally).
Saw this as a kid and was traumatised. •The wheelers "Come ere Chicken." •Queen Momby's heads all waking up and screaming when Dorothy is in there. •The deadly desert. •And just something about the way the Gnome King says "Why doesn't the sofa go first" still, even now send shivers down my spine. To do that to a kid, scary but well done 👏
When I was very young, my mom would often fix me an egg for breakfast. Whenever I didn't want an egg, I would throw a fit and say "Eggs. Poison!" Then I would slip out of my chair onto the floor, whining. She didn't like that very much. lol
So it seems that the Wicked Witch of the West was always allergic to water (which caused her demise) and the Nome King was always allergic to eggs (which caused his demise).
Xanatos21 I was thinking that too. The only thing that confused me was that I thought the ruby slippers were also meant to keep whoever wears them protected since they protected Dorothy on the first film preventing the witch from removing them off of Dorothy's feet when the witch tried to take them. If they protect on whoever wears them, I was surprised they didn't protect the Nome King from dying by swallowing an egg along with protecting the Wicked Witch Of The East from getting crushed by Dorothy's house.
***** Actually, in the first film (Though it shouldn't matter because this film is a reboot) the Witch was going to kill Dorothy which she still had the slippers on. They just won't come off, as long as she was alive.
Tyler Michael I might be wrong but, the Witch on the first film probably wasn't planning on killing Dorothy where she was probably making a deal with Dorothy saying that if she (Dorothy) agrees to give the slippers back, she will let Dorothy and Toto stay alive and probably let them go. (Of course, if she did succeed in getting the slippers back, she would probably use the power of the slippers to kill Dorothy and Toto). Also yes, I remember she said that there is no way to remove the slippers off Dorothy's feet if Dorothy was alive and then the witch was probably going to kill Dorothy with an hour glass saying once the sand runs all the way to the bottom, then she would die and then she would get the ruby slippers probably. Luckily for Dorothy, Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Lion saved her just in time.
+Elemental Cheese Are you talking to me? If so, I did mention about the Wicked Witch of the East getting crushed by Dorothy's house when I replied to Xanatos21 comment.
Interesting fact! Both movies' climaxes had a chase by the main threats of the movie with their army only to accidentally reach their demise by their very weakness! (In the Nome King''s case, the egg and the wicked witch, a bucket of water) I'm surprised nobody noticed that!
This movie got panned by the critics for being “to scary” especially compared to the MGM musical, but anyone who’s read the original books, can tell you that it can get pretty dark in the land of Oz. The first book alone features, the tin woodsman, killing several wolves with his axe, the scarecrow breaking the necks of several birds, and the cowardly lion ripping the head off of a giant spider creature.
If I recall correctly (and I'm not sure if this is from the original source material or from the 1986 The Wonderful Wizard of Oz series) the reason that eggs are poisonous to Nomes is because the Nome King has an irrational fear of them (due to a bad experience with a boiled egg). As a result of this experience, he decreed the foodstuff 'persona non grata' and now all Nomekind fear them as well.
Those weaksauce weaknesses (eggs, water, needles and string if you read the children's books) do account to fears in the original writings. The witch certainly was afraid of water, the Nome king certainly was afraid of eggs, etc.
I guess since the Nome King is death, a chicken's egg is life? When you think about the multiple types of symbolism involving a simple egg, it makes you consider why it is that it's the ultimate kryptonite for a giant rock demon...
I grew up watching a slightly edited version taped off the Disney Channel--it cut most of the claymation with the nomes at the end, and it cut the Nome King's eye glazing over and, IIRC, his scream. Still scared the crap out of me. But that's all right--this is still one of the greatest movies of all time.
Egg allergy is an immune hypersensitivity to proteins found in chicken eggs, and possibly goose, duck, or turkey eggs. Symptoms can be either rapid or gradual in onset. The latter can take hours to days to appear. The former may include anaphylaxis, a potentially life-threatening condition which requires treatment with epinephrine. Other presentations may include atopic dermatitis or inflammation of the esophagus.
God, this movie was creepy af. I should've freaked out as a kid but surprisingly I was obsessed with this movie. I had a huge girl crush on Fairuza Balk and I'm not even the least bit gay.
Uh huh, uh huh. I had a HUGE crush on Jack Haley (the OG tin man). He encouraged me to watch the Judy Garland film after this awful experience. Edit: By that, I meant that the Judy film was my favourite at the time (and still is), but I was scared by this. Jack Haley's performance was enough to keep my Oz phase going. :)
Oh my gosh I forgot about this scene. Pretty much every scene in this movie terrified me as a child. BTW, if y'all loved this early stop/clay-motion animation, check out The Adventures of Mark Twain (1985). The one bit with Satan was scary and disturbing as hell for kids haha
I love how the Gnome King, 👑 could transform into a gigantic ferocious monster! 🔥😈👹🔥🔥🔥👺 I also love it that there's red light behind him with fire everywhere!!!! I just love how dramatic a scene in a movie like that can be!!
@spawnslipknot14 The Clay Stop-Motion is made by Academy Award Winner Will Venton creator of The California Rassins, The Domnios Nod, Michael Jackson's Speed Demon video, The PJ's and The Adventures of Mark Twain. His animation is amazing, but it is dark and creepy and we needed it. And more kids need to see that in their films.
Fairuza Balk plays Dorothy in this movie. She also voiced Connie D'Amico in Family Guy. When the character was first introduced. She's voiced by someone else now. Mila Kunis was in Oz The Great And Powerful. She does the voice of Meg Griffin in Family Guy.
