Revealing the Hidden Secrets of Airsoft Hop-Up Setup 

Not that well. Just destroyed my First Strike bottle. Ruined the threads where the fill nipple sits. And the bad part is... It was probably not necessary to remove the fill nipple.

uffffff yiiikes, could be worse... You could have bought a GBB ;D

I'm doing it wrong so bad i guess

@@TheLegendMakaveli [F] 🤷‍♂️🤌🏻

good now ty haha

Hey I am glad you like the video! I got a video coming out next weekend that follows up on this, where I go in-depth with bb weight and how much it actually matters. And regards fact's I think the airsoft community have been lied to and been told "I feel like this is best" for far to long without any data backing up things for a long time and it's dumb, hence why my shooting test videos are normally 1 hour, because I go very in depth with data. But I am glad it made sence, kinda afraid how it come across on video.

Zeroing is such a importen thing but most dont 🤷‍♂️😂

You’re only keep the same joules with an aeg gbbr or hpa joules increase and have to be managed by a regulator or npas in a gbbr

That last one brings out the secret sauce 🤷‍♂️

Thanks, I hope the video helped! ; )

Hey I’m glad you like the video, honestly there are no exact way to translate the hop % from the app to the replica it self, it all depends what kind of hop your using. Example: r-hop / flat-hop / s-hop etc, they all take different degrees/% of hop needed to reach the same goal. My maxx is on 7 with 0.40 at 1.69J with umbrella r-hop, with normal Ml SM 70* I was about the same. So it’s hard to say. But I’m glad people appreciate the scientific approach to it, instead sharing a option 🔥🫶🏻🤌🏻

Ok, so in using on my Mtw Forge 0.32 gr whit a yellow super macaron rubber about 1.95 joule, Maxx are set to 6.2ish. Does it seems right?

Honestly I would not be able to say, also 1.95J for ML SM 60*(yellow) seems kinda low, I would 100% use a (blue) 70* but if it works it works.@@gunnyaction2969

I always zero to the sites I go to they always have targets you can hit at diff ranges.. Edit: glad you liked the video 🥳

@@kaslab so say for your 2.8J MTW would you zero at like 60m or something (the max effective range before the BB starts to drop off?)

@@rdb9936 if I go to a field and find out my most common engagement ranges. let’s say 60m then that’s it.

@@kaslab ahh I see! Interesting! For my snipers, I tend to zero and then forget, then learn slight under and over holds for set distance. Set the hop and forget so to speak. Presumably different if AR/SPR though

Happy to help

Glad you like it, I hope it was clear enought,

@@kaslab it was. Even downloaded the app myselft to check it out.

Impossible with a million diff setup

@@kaslabno it’s not you could easily do one comparing most stock ones to any after market bucking my dude and show that you’ll get more stable and consistent hop most of the people that are going to come to your channel are going to be newer players

I'll think about it for the future ; )@@MidWestJigga

Glad you like the video 👌🏻❤️

Almost all fields in Denmark. Snipers are even 4-5Jules.. ; )

In Poland 3.4-3.9j for snipers @@kaslab Its 70m effective range and 90m "usable"

I do not agree, this is airsoft, laying doing is not smart, most people dont do that at all. So shooting at a target that's "normal person hight" is the recipie for the best result. But yeah measuring from a "high ground" like lets say 3 + meters up is dumb, that wil obivously effect the result and give a unrealistic result... but I get where your coming from with "laying down" so everyone its the same high for a "standard" for a test.

gotta be usefull to the commmmuuunnniiity!

Lucky you. We are locked for full auto capability at 1.2 joule at .30. Max BB weight is also .30

No your not screwed at all for range, but you obivously won't get as long range as someone who can run way higher range, without lobbing the bb's and then it's missing the whole point of "effective range"

hey F(")!)#"!

Hey I truly appricaite your feedback, your one of the few people that seem to understand what the video was actually about, I am not sure if I said it in this video, but in the bb video I say "this is a good baseline to go from" As for how the maths work behind the app, it takes air drag and balistics of the bb + the magnus effect in use, and that's how it's so accurate, i've used the app alot before I started thinking about sharing it, and it seems to hold up very well actually in most cases. in regards to set to 1.7m that's might hight, and then over-hop to 2.7m that's kinda useless since you can't hit anyone at let's say 50m because it's at 2.7m high, so you would have to aim for the feet etc, that's over-hopping and not using a effective range. in regards what hop it's using if it's r/s/flap-hop I don't know and I havent been able to find any data about it, but from my expirence testing a buuunch of buckins/nubs/barrels - when you find something that works they all tend to get around the same range no matter which style of hop your using. I also realised after releasing it, I would have re-done 70% of the video because I share some of the information in a confusing way, and I should litterly just say: "This app is a amazing base line" since it takes the magnus effect and air drag efficiency and the bb balistics in the math calculation, and that would have been the end of that, but instead, since I have been using the app so much, I did not explain everything, and i just kinda tippy toed over it, and I was like "they will use the app and then they understand all I mean so I dont need to explain" but that was a horrible though, obviously when I am trying to explain and teach the airsoft community I need to take into consideration I am teaching a toddler how to drink etc... but I learned from that, The videos I will make for after the bb video, will be more precise, and spoken in a way that everyone can understand with the right "keywords" to explain why it is why it is... and not kinda like it video where it's "it is what it is" the app shows it etc.. Also I am happy that you wrote the comment, in regards to where you wrote " data being presented" I am trying to learn how to explain it, so it makes sence and it's correct, and I dont say stupid shit, I showed the video to my math mate after this and he just cried and said wtf show me the video before you release, so I can teach you the right words, and right setup etc.. but the video and point still stands and I think it got across, just not as elegant as it should have! ;D I hope I answer all your questions, if not pls write again, and will see what I can do.. The plan is to have a team around me one day when i do this kind of stuff, that can help my ADHD ass to get the point across as it should!

@@kaslab ADHD is a bitch :D Feel that! I think you made your point, I think there just needed to be a heavy disclaimer when you personally state 'this is fact' and the comments below state 'DANG I love facts' then the data presented is really just a basis on what is pretty simply calculations in the world of balistics. You are right though, when you get that sweet spot with any set up at certain joules, certain bbs, certain delivery method you really do find that the hopup itself can be tuned to get mostly the same performance with some time and effort. R-hop/s-hop/flat hop/ ML/ VSR or AEG bucking it always pretty much ends the same. Have a set of draws with maybe 100 or so various hop-up rubbers and I feel with the right set up and BB's you can get good results from most with patiences. I even have an 20 year old stock STAR M249 that performs well with just good tuning and GOOD BBS which I feel are just as important I run Geoffs and/or long bows presently in everything. ASG blasters not bad and their premium blaster range is good to. I think they are all rebranded BLS though, but don't quote me on that. I am excited to see you bb weight review. Not sure if it has value to you, but bb surface quality, mold quality and tollerences matter to me personally. Oh and don't forget our old swelly boys! I had a bag of bio bbs that literally turned to slime after a year. Love it :D

@@MaiAkamegami I always say, you don’t need to have some stupid setup like me, you can do just as good for half or less.. and it’s not a (bb weight review) I am explaining why bb weight matters, and that bb weight can make 1000 euro replica shoot like a 100 one, it’s more like a (how to optimise your replicas performance with the right bb weight for your setup) - the plan was to go crazy in-depth with how much force a bb carries with it to let’s say 60 meters etc.. but that will be a video for it self… it’s super nerdy but good information for people to get. - glad you liked the video though! 🫶🏻👌🏻🤌🏻

@@kaslab YEAH you can go cheaper BUT when you have the money to spare and the skill to tech what you buy. Why wouldn't you make a £1500 hpa vsr or an £2000 MTW with all the gucci parts :D My fave build is still my £10 sleeper m249. External looks like a polymer POS. Inside has close to £900 worth of upgrades! Love tech work, Love airsoft. Looking forward to the vid keep doing your thing bud, people are watching and listening :)

Thanks for the heads up 👌🏻👍🏻

Hey bro! I always say when people ask why I can shoot so far, is that we have crazy high jules In Denmark... my CQB is 1.69J with .40's and SPR I run .45's with 2.25J So it makes a LOT of sence why I can shoot so far. Hope the video made some sence though, trying to get a point across so the airsoft community is getting more informed!

@@kaslab yeah the video is logical and easy to understand. I think it will help a lot of new players. I guess most "veterans" already understood the concept of an effective shooting range and how important it is to zero your sights for that effective range. Most outdoor fields here allow 1.5 to 1.6 with assault rifles, dmrs get a little more but have a rof / trigger penalty and snipers cap at 2.5 but have a minimum engagement of 15-20meters :D

Fair enought! @@HappyH4x0r

The German field in Brozek ("Battlegrounds") has a 4J cap for snipers but this means that they have to be AT LEAST 40 meters away from their target (rule: XJoules x10 = minimum range for safety reasons) Thats because the area is crazy large

thanks, I just gotta learn how to do these videos in like 10 minutes instead a whole days video ;D

This video not enough?

np

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Thanks! how could it be better?

It literally uses ballistic air drag and the Magnus effect so I’m very sure it’s very accurate.. so you probably set it up wrong 🤷‍♂️

@@kaslab There is actually documented evidence of airsoft guns at 1.14J having 10/10 effective shots in 20x20cm at 65 meters. really that app must be missing many real factors. not all bbs have the same coefficient of friction, not all hops lose the same energy, the turbulence generated by different shapes is very different.

Your wrong bro. The app litterly uses the magnus effect + projectile ballistics, air efficency drag. And I have tested it a lot before I released it, it lines up with everything, and its very close to real life results. You wont have a effective range at 65meters with 1.14J without a crazy high bb cruve/hop-up curve/ I might not have been the best to explain it in the video, but belive me, the app works. edit: yes you can get hits no 65 meters, but the bb curve will be very high, if your 1.6M tall, your bb wil hit a max hight at 3.01M which is not good for real play ofc. @@alejovega4128

@@kaslab shots are fired at effective range with NO OVER HOP. They are data, there are videos, tests in 100-meter rooms with stationary markers 1.5m from the ground, without over hop or angled shot.

@@kaslab precisely several of those airsoft replicas were used for a final engineering thesis on thermofluids and magno effect. so it's backed up data and the numbers and calculations are there, not like in the app where you can't know what calculations or what parameters they take.

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