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Revealing the TRUE Purpose of the Galaxy Class! Did the Enterprise Miss Out? 

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I've been greatly inspired the Red Letter Media's show proposal called Star Trek: Galaxy, and it got me thinking...Why did Starfleet design such a large, overpowered EXPLORATION cruiser? Through deduction - here is my theory!
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@HistoryNut-1701
@HistoryNut-1701 5 дней назад
The reason the Enterprise was never sent on the mission you describe is very simply because the ship bore the name “Enterprise.” That automatically made her the Federation’s political showpiece and trouble shooter. You don’t send that ship out into nowheres on secret missions, you keep it close to home where it can be sent on “flag waving” missions around the known hotspots.
@Simmons8519
@Simmons8519 5 дней назад
True... but Resurrection Starships does have a point there too... Waving the Flag doesn't necessarily seem like the kind of job that a man like Picard would jump at... Makes sense to me that exploration was going to be the Enterprise's primary mission at first, and while it was on the long journey out to the frontier of Federation space, the mission profiel changed. Not just for the Enterprise, but for most of the Galaxy class line.
@HistoryNut-1701
@HistoryNut-1701 4 дня назад
@@Simmons8519 That could be, but to me, I think it makes more sense that the only two Galaxy Class ships that we saw in or near Federation space during TNG were the Enterprise and the Yamato, that the other ships of the class were indeed sent out on extreme long range missions, and the Enterprise was kept around for the reasons I described. And wants to build up to the Dominion War began, the call was transmitted out to reach the other Galaxy Class vessels that were well out beyond the range of the frontier, to return to Federation space because they were going to be going to war.
@AtlantiansGaming
@AtlantiansGaming 4 дня назад
This is a brilliant explanation as to why Starfleet renamed Titan as Enterprise after retiring the ENT F, a critically flawed variant of the Odyssey Class.
@Revkor
@Revkor 4 дня назад
@@HistoryNut-1701 issue there is by all counts the first batch run of Galaxy's were only 6 hulls with three comissioned three spares. now as the DW started to ramp up they made the second rush batch
@Jeremy-83
@Jeremy-83 4 дня назад
The Federation had many "Flag" ships. A flagship is any ship that leads multiple vessels in either a battle group or other lead role. Flagships are often commanded by some kind of high level political/military leader such as an Admiral. The fact that someone with the rank of "Captain" was permitted to command the Enterprise directly tells me there was a lack of understanding of the specific role a flagship takes. It also shows that Starfleet must have had the utmost confidence in Captain Picard to give him command of this ship. A Flag officer is historically someone of a high rank that can "speak" for their government. On rare occasions we did see the Enterprise under Picard take command of battle groups and situations but this was not the norm. If the Enterprise was in fact "The" Federation flagship it is highly unlikely that Picard would not have been promoted prior to taking on the role. The Galaxy class was an expression of the Federations complacency and belief that their technology was unmatched, which at the time it technically was. I do not believe the Enterprise was "The" Federation flagship but rather "A" Federation flagship.
@vp21ct
@vp21ct 5 дней назад
I have been saying this for years. The Galaxy Class is, in a very literal sense, a mobile starbase. It is 640m of The Federation, sent out to wherever starfleet sees fit. Not merely the long arm of Starfleet power, but a very real, very tangible piece of the FEDERATION itself. A city that can just be sent and parked wherever it's needed.
@chrisdufresne9359
@chrisdufresne9359 5 дней назад
@@vp21ct ah. Something akin to the way the US uses our bigger carriers?
@afterglow-podcast
@afterglow-podcast 5 дней назад
I always liked and thought this as well. She's a mini starbase that's warp capable. But the show treated it as a nice ship instead of a massive mobile base.
@stargazerblue186
@stargazerblue186 5 дней назад
Also it was so chock full of warp capable shuttles to do the most of the charting of systems and relay back to the Galaxy. It has plenty of room. I been on board with it being a genrational ship. The enterprise was mostly to show off what the frederation had accomplished as well as being its flagship. But an Average galaxy class would be mostly the former .
@vp21ct
@vp21ct 5 дней назад
@@afterglow-podcast Not merely warp capable. She was, at the time of her construction, the fastest ship in Starfleet, thanks in large part due to having the largest, most powerful warp core that had ever been built up to that point. In fact, I would argue that this is why the Galaxy class never actually got sent on it's INTENDED missions. She was just so fast, and so powerful, that when starfleet needs to send something, "Send a Galaxy Class" tends to be the best available answer.
@fluffskunk
@fluffskunk 5 дней назад
@@stargazerblue186 It could even be split in two, so the saucer could stay parked in orbit of a friendly planet or station, while the engineering hull was used for scouting or coming to the air of an embattled shuttle, while leaving the civilians and diplomats and science specialists in safety and comfort.
@Psycodiver69
@Psycodiver69 4 дня назад
It was explained by the show runners decades ago (feels like yesterday but I'm old), its a multi-role long term explorer. Starfleet was retiring its aging fleet but they didn't want specialized ships, they wanted a ship that could do it all. It can explore, transport colonist, disaster relief, etc. It was meant to go on multi year missions without having to return for supplies or refit.This ship is the height of Star Fleets arrogance that gets crushed in Wolf 359 and then the Dominion War, thats why after the Federation goes back to smaller and more specialized ships Edit- In reference to the Enterprise, easy answer is she is the big stick and she was placed near Romuln and Klingon space as a show of force. Klingons made fun of her luxury but never her battle capabilities
@matts1166
@matts1166 4 дня назад
Although we never had a good look at the inside of an Ambassador class (other than the bridge), we have seen a good deal of the interior of Excelsior class ships (Star Trek 3-6, Voyager). In the Excelsior class the Captain's room was TINY. All he had was a twin bed and about 10x10 feet to walk around in. Heck, ensigns were crammed at least 6 to a room in bunk beds. Even the Defiant class had more room per person than that. I think the Galaxy class was a flex in making the ship A LOT more livable than previous generations.
@Scitch87
@Scitch87 4 дня назад
The federation never stopped building smaller and more specialized ships, even when the Galaxy Class was planned and built. To say that Galaxy Class ships were crushed in the Dominion War also feels oversimplified. The USS Odyssey was rammed by a Jem Hadar fighter after it took a massive beating because the Federation shields were useless against dominion weaponry. Every other starfleet vessel of the time would've likely fared far worse. After the galaxy class was refitted for the war it was the backbone of the fleet in a lot of engagements. After the dominion war the federation also built large ships like the Odyssey class (which the Enterprise F belonged to).
@Psycodiver69
@Psycodiver69 4 дня назад
@Scitch87 if your referring to the Project Galaxy ships (New Orleans, Challenger, Freedom etc) from everything I read they were small batch ships made more for test beds except for the Nebulas which became important with their mission packs. I didn't mean to suggest the Galaxy were beat down, it's just this was a numbers game and the Dominion were able to build more small ships faster, they kept building Galaxies but they could punch out more Sabres, Akiras, Steamrunners, etc than the Galaxy. In some "canon" and beta Canon stories the Galaxy was something Cardassians avoided when possible
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 дня назад
@@Psycodiver69 Starfleet tends to build a do everything starship every generation. And they are typically marked as a class by having an Enterprise in her number. The concept is consistently proven. Starfleet engineers are nothing if not problem solvers, so when something comes up that the do everything ship is ill suited to, they build something small to fill the gap until the next do everything ship that has that problem solved is ready. So you get a Galaxy, add variable Borg, solution=Defiant, reviews complete, build Sovereign. The Galaxy was designed as a literal generational leap forward, a foundation for everything that came after, and the designers were basically pushing to see just how far they could push on the bleeding edge. So the ship has maxed out everything, MAX engines, MAX power, MAX weapons, MAX shields, MAX space, MAX science labs, MAX sensors, MAX computer power, MAX luxuries, MAX family accommodation, MAX Captain. They probably went a bit overboard, but they were trying to do a ship that would last a century, a new Excelsior caliber ship.
@Psycodiver69
@Psycodiver69 4 дня назад
@@3Rayfire I totally agree, the fact we don't see any in the Picard series really upsets me, even at that time it should STILL be the premier explorer ship, it has plenty of room for upgrades to keep it current.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 5 дней назад
If i remember right, the original writer's bible that David Gerrold, Farpoint was the absolute furthest humanity explored. The rest of the series was going on a "reverse Voyager" where they would explore and come back something like 20 years later. It's also why families were aboard the ship because the mission was going to be too long to separate families. We also weren't going to see any of the original races unless one of those races caught up to the Enterprise.
@yelwinmoisesacostaduarte8915
@yelwinmoisesacostaduarte8915 5 дней назад
and with the original TNG warp scale go to the another 2 cuadrants sems more logical
@floydlooney6837
@floydlooney6837 4 дня назад
I want to watch that show.
@charlesmaurer6214
@charlesmaurer6214 4 дня назад
Was also hinted at when on a return to Earth that it was said to be rare and unexpected for any Galaxy class ship to return to the nest. They were intended to keep going or to seed a new base someplace far away.
@1337penguinman
@1337penguinman 4 дня назад
That actually makes a lot of sense when you look at the plot of the first episode.
@martykarr7058
@martykarr7058 4 дня назад
​@@charlesmaurer6214 The term 5 or in the case of the Galaxy class 20 means that it leaves it's planet of registry and doesn't return for 20 years UNLESS something happens to the planet, like the Borg invasion, or it's too damaged to be repaired by a Starbase facility and has to go back to the "factory", like the "E" at the end of "Nemesis".
@fluffskunk
@fluffskunk 5 дней назад
I was thinking for a moment that that would imply that Starfleet thought the existing Ambassadors, Excelsiors, Constellations Mirandas would be enough to hold the line in the event of war with Klingons or Romulans, but then I realized, that's what the Nebulas are for: Galaxy-class tech in a package optimized for shorter trips and more intense combat, with a Miranda-like modularity of mission pods mounted above the main hull.
@giovannirodriguesdasilva646
@giovannirodriguesdasilva646 4 дня назад
A great point you made, the Galaxy Class is huge and powerful, but the Nebula is dynamic and efficient, especially in combat with its more compact profile and modular Pods, which is why the Phoenix was so effective in its attacks in Cardassian space.
@jpc347
@jpc347 4 дня назад
The Nebula isn't that much smaller than the Galaxy. In fact with the mission pod I'd be willing to bet that the Nebula actually has a larger mass and internal volume. Just like the Miranda is actually larger than the Constitution when looking at volume.
@gregorymcavoy758
@gregorymcavoy758 4 дня назад
​@@jpc347 I believe you are correct about that. Someone has done a volume sheet based on the best models he could find. The Nebula class without the pod is just missing the neck of the Galaxy class. You add the pod and the pylon it sits on, it becomes larger. However based on what we think on how shield tech works, you would think the shield bubble would be more powerful due to if all things being equal between the two classes, the Nebula class would have a smaller shield bubble but equal amount of energy going into it. I guess you could say 15-25% more powerful.
@Th0ughtf0rce
@Th0ughtf0rce 2 дня назад
@@jpc347yet the Nebula is described as being slightly smaller than the Galaxy in most sources. I reconcile these facts by assuming these sources were referring to the stock model without any pod installed.
@dougsmith6262
@dougsmith6262 День назад
The Nebula class is what happens when a Miranda class knocks up a Galaxy class.
@DeaconBlu
@DeaconBlu 5 дней назад
The group of ships you have featured is pretty slick. 2 Miranda… 1 Excelsior… 1 Galaxy…. Pretty capable little unit right there. Nicely done.
@tdrewman
@tdrewman 5 дней назад
Gives me aircraft carrier and it's carrier strike group feel..
@ProphetoftheMachines
@ProphetoftheMachines 5 дней назад
The Mirandas are flying plot devices for the Galaxy crew to find abandoned or destroyed, and the Excelsior shuttles important people to and from the Galaxy, just like on TNG!
@pdbouie
@pdbouie 4 дня назад
Capable but slightly incomplete. The task force needs 4 - 6 destroyer class vessels for picket/scouting duties and possibly a frigate with Starfleet Marines onboard (aka a Northampton), especially if you're heading out on a long-range exploration mission. J/S
@MrAranton
@MrAranton 4 дня назад
For long term missions I wouldn‘t mix design eras for maintenance reasons. To minimize the amount of non-replicable spart parts that might be needed, I‘d only use ship classes born out of the Galaxy program. Not only would that reduce the variety of parts, it would also be easier for engineers to transfer between ships without having to adjust to different machinery everywhere they go.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 дня назад
would have been better with Akira and intrepid class make the whole fleet more modern🤣🤣
@ameliadesertsong
@ameliadesertsong 5 дней назад
It’s awesome that you posted this video because recently I was thinking that the Galaxy class was originally designed for missions that could be generational in nature. I’m not surprised that the original Galaxy class was a potential launch point for a new series either. In my opinion, the Galaxy is best served as a command cruiser, sort of like a mobile star base. I agree that the enterprise likely was meant to serve that role as a true flagship on long term task force missions. It seems you have a lot of the same ideas. :)
@BazT47
@BazT47 5 дней назад
The Enterprise J was universe class lol. Does that mean it visited other galaxies LOL. It was huuuuuuge.
@Simmons8519
@Simmons8519 5 дней назад
​@BazT47 ... If we're going off of the ... Discovery canon... than it would seem no. The Discovery makes an extragalactic jaunt out, and it's mentioned that Starfleet, until the... spore drive... lacked the ability to pierce the galactic barrier without unusual outside alien interference.
@BazT47
@BazT47 5 дней назад
@@Simmons8519 Yes that happemed in Disco. Aliens, you mean like God. Who needs a starship lol.
@Simmons8519
@Simmons8519 5 дней назад
@@BazT47 God, the Kelvins from the Andromeda galaxy... the walking amber alert that was the Traveler... Yeah, things like that.
@Gunnar001
@Gunnar001 4 дня назад
@@BazT47 I mean, the background information from the designer of the Universe-class said it had some new space-folding warp technology and did indeed explore other galaxies. Doubt it's canon but still pretty cool. No, I don't see Discovery or anything from Kurtzman Trek as canon. At least not canon to the prime universe. It's clearly some weird parallel reality.
@SchneeflockeMonsoon
@SchneeflockeMonsoon 5 дней назад
I see the light purple on those satellites. Iconian time, babyyyyy.
@rueceless7580
@rueceless7580 5 дней назад
The Galaxy class being a deep space exploration ship does make sense, it has all the facilities to keep it's crew happy and healthy far from any space dock. The idea of a small fleet of ships supporting one is also a cool idea too.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 5 дней назад
The cut-out on the underside of the hull would be perfect for carrying two smaller ships, similar in size to the Saber, or Defiant. Having such an explorer be a mother ship to a pair of smaller, but very capable ships would be very useful.
@Simmons8519
@Simmons8519 5 дней назад
Yeah, the galaxy class operating in the same capacity as a US aircraft carrier in a naval carrier group, surrounded by escorst and support ships is the impression I always had for the Galaxy class, except for long range, long duration peaceful exploration rather than defense.
@Simmons8519
@Simmons8519 5 дней назад
One minor critique of the video is that you said the "area of interest" that the galaxy class intended for was only a year at warp away from Earth. By the 24th century according to manuals polublished during the airing of the Next Generation, Federation space had become so vast that it would take multiple years to go from one end of its widest border to the other... If you're going forward with the "where no one has gone before" concept here, the area of interest should be months or years beyond THAT instead. And in suggestion, the cruisikg speeds and maximum warp factor of the Galaxy class was notably higher than ships like the Miranda and Excelsior classes, at least until the Borg attack and Dominion war seemed to motivate Starfleet to overhaul these older vessels to add to fleet strength and numbers. So i would suggest that any fleet accompanying a Galaxy class would have to be one of the rarely ever seen "modern" ships of the era that came out of the Galaxy class development program: the Cheyenne, New Orleans, Apollo, Freedom, Challenger and of course the Nebula class, simply in order to keep up. And because most of these ships were still smaller and less advanced than the Galaxy, having the new flagships of the Federation as the fleet command ships still makes sense. With the galaxy class acting as a kind of starbase surrogate in the region from which the rest of the fleet could be deployed from and return to for rest and repairs while the Galaxy itself set up a small ground based starbase of a suitable planet from which long term operations could be hadled, and for subsequent fleets to arrive at and bouild up, should the region prove interesting enough upon analysis to warrant a greater Federtion presence.
@jonsouth1545
@jonsouth1545 5 дней назад
The size of the Galaxy class is largely about showing the flag and diplomacy. It is the same reason why we might send an aircraft carrier and used to send battleships on a port visits especially to places that might not be 100% friendly. It's a way of showing how big and powerful the Federation is. This thing is stuffed to the gills with the latest tech and luxuries it is a flying city and is incredibly expensive It's about impressing but also telling people not to fuck about and find out as it also has big teeth. It's classic naval defence diplomacy in space. This thing is a very big not so subtle statement of intent if one of these rocks up at your door you listen and you listen hard. It's both an iron fist and a velvet glove
@TheRogueX
@TheRogueX 4 дня назад
What always makes me angry about this, though, is the civilians. They put the civilians on the Enterprise in danger CONSTANTLY, and almost never even made mention of it. So much so that I think, if it were real life, they'd have canceled the civilian aspect of the ships almost immediately and crewed them solely with Starfleet personnel. It's just way too dangerous.
@Revkor
@Revkor 4 дня назад
@@TheRogueX that's why she has the saucer seperation move. civies go into the saucer as the stardrive went to fight
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 4 дня назад
@@Revkor Perhaps so, but the saucer operating alone is incredibly vulnerable. With no warp capability it is limited to sub-light speeds, basically immobile with limited power, shielding and weapons. If an opponent detected it either during or after separating from the "Battle Section," it becomes a sitting duck unable to get those same families to safety, a two million ton "clay pigeon."
@Revkor
@Revkor 4 дня назад
@@robertf3479 depends where it was dropped off. not saying there is an issue but again first ship to do this and reattach without a ship yard.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 дня назад
@@TheRogueX Thing is that the realpolitik element is background to Starfleet's primary function. The ship is supposed to go on twenty year deep space exploration missions. Nobody is going to leave their kids for twenty years, this ship removes that as an issue. Also, I'm sorry but staying planet side is not a safe thing in Star Trek. You can never tell when a giant space amoeba, indestructible omnicidal ice cream cone, Earth space probe that has achieved sentience with no corresponding ability to value organic life, telepathic fried egg with an attitude, passing black whole, or hostile alien race might just cruise by a planet. Or something banal like an asteroid, moon, or stellar core fragment might threaten to tear your planet's crust apart. The Klingon's almost wasted themselves with crappy mining safety. Frankly being on a starship in an interstellar society is like flying, despite the occasional plane crash it's still statistically the safest way to travel. That said, you're right, considering the size, I think the very first thing any refit of the Galaxy should have is a few Danube class Runabout warp cores installed in the saucer section so she can have her own warp drive. No saucer warp drive, that was dumb.
@reecewestmoreland6137
@reecewestmoreland6137 5 дней назад
I've always imagine the galaxy in the role of being basically a mobile star base. The thing is big enough enough that it can easily carry not just it's own crew but easily handle the extra load of crews for a couple defiant classes as given how unsuitable that ship is for long range missions so they can rotate on and off. It's hanger easily has the space a lot support craft like worker bees for maintenance of itself and other ships. And it seems like the kind of ship that'd have industrial grade replicatiors as standard or at least the space and extra power for them. Personally i think it's a ship that'll live long behind the lines frontline days are over all big replenishment ship
@danielboatright8887
@danielboatright8887 3 дня назад
Give it a couple dozen runabout sized drone probes capable of high warp speed and maintaining cruising speed for at least a week or more, the ship could then survey far more at once.
@shinigamimiroku3723
@shinigamimiroku3723 5 дней назад
Geeze, you've got my fanfic gears going... One thing that always bothered me about ST is the fact that starships never went out in convoy groups like you'd see in most navies (even nowadays you have multiple ships operating in a single location due to how they are designed). I'd definitely need to study up on the outfit of the Federation in the 2360s, but I'm in complete agreement with the use of the Galaxy-class as a fleet flagship with several smaller ships flying in support for extreme deep-space missions. Now, to be fair to Picard, as he is the ambassador and negotiator for the Federation, it would make sense to give him command of the largest ship in the fleet as a sort of power symbol ("Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far.")
@tillsy1701
@tillsy1701 4 дня назад
In TNG it did happen once (Redemption Pt 2, the Enterprise commanded a convoy of starship classes to the Klingon/Romulan neutral zone) and in DS9 it became common during the Dominion war.
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman 5 дней назад
If Starfleet was more of an actual fleet, they would have sent out their ships in squadrons of some sort or another, like you propose. Imagine if you had squadrons of 1 capital ship, 2 medium cruisers, and 4 scouts. They would explore or patrol and support each other. Say you’ve got 4 Mirandas, just zipping through every star system in their designated area, looking for the anomaly of the week. 2 Excelsiors back them up, doing more thorough investigations of anything peculiar or bailing them out when said anomaly starts causing issues. The Galaxy sits back, coordinates, and acts as a mobile starbase. It is the most well-defended ship in the squadron, but that is *because* it houses the families of the crew on the other 6 ships, along with support facilities. Maybe it hangs out in orbit over some outpost or new colony, assisting the groundside needs in addition to coordinating the squadron’s mission. Almost a colony ship, but not quite. And maybe you go with 2 capital ships. Say 1 Galaxy class and 1 Ambassador class. The second capital ship would be the one sent in to address the really serious issues, where a real bruiser of a ship is required.
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman 5 дней назад
Oh, and also: Starfleet could use this system of organization to cycle through their new designs. With older designs moving down a tier, as appropriate. Maybe in Kirk’s time, its a squadron of 1 Connie w/ 2-3 Saladins or Hermes (later replaced with Mirandas). Then, an Excelsior could lead a squadron of a mix of Connies and Mirandas. When the Excelsiors and Mirandas are the bulk of the fleet, the Ambassador can come into its own. However, the design is not revolutionary enough to set it apart from the Excelsiors, so the Galaxy is designed specifically as a platform for coordinating Excelsiors from.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 5 дней назад
The Galaxy could be a literal mother ship. The cut out on the underside of the secondary hull would be perfect for a pair of Defiant or Saber class ships, or something of similar size. Imagine being able to transport the two smaller ships to a given region, and then dispatch them to explore/patrol the area, with the Galaxy acting as home base.
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 5 дней назад
by TNG as well Starfleet became very egotistical, believeing they had no real threat at the time so it was mostly a flex and was a sign of major stagnation though the theories being shared is always great
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 5 дней назад
@@CMVBrielman by the time they got their act together I felt like the sovereign became the backbone with intrepids, akiras and defiants feeling in those roles honestly.
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman 5 дней назад
@@SuperGamefreak18 Nothing says these squadrons have to be identical, of course. Or even have identical purposes. You could have tactical, short-range exploration, and long-range exploration, along with plenty others. And since so many starfleet ships are multi-purpose, this would make it easier to build squadrons for a given purpose. One squadron could be repurposed just by switching out one ship. You’ve got an Excelsior with 2 Mirandas, charting a nebula well within Federation space. Replace the Excelsior with a Sovereign, and now they can patrol the Neutral Zone.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 5 дней назад
The cut-out on the underside of the secondary hull, would have been perfect for carrying two Defiant class ships.
@D-GM-Snyper2
@D-GM-Snyper2 4 дня назад
Or an Intrepid class
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 4 дня назад
@@D-GM-Snyper2 Now that I think about it, they could probably ferry around 4 Oberth science ships in that spot. What a true explorer that would be, ferrying the Oberths to a key sector, and sending them off to map out the area. They would be able to cover so much more space.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 дня назад
@@nunya3163 As long as nothing ever hits the Oberths.
@HuntingTarg
@HuntingTarg 4 дня назад
If you're talking about the concave arc at the bottom of the hull, that's where the most critical and sensitive systems of the ship are; the antimatter end of the warp core, the antimatter storage pods, and the emergency antimatter generator. That's not a place I'd want to have ships externally docked while at warp. A redesign might be able to accomodate that idea though... Ever heard of the Captain's Yacht?
@goolash1000
@goolash1000 3 дня назад
Something mentioned in the TNG technical manual CA 1995, is that about two-thirds of the secondary hull is empty space just waiting to be configured for future mission needs.
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 5 дней назад
Ive always seen the later Odyssey class as a true second attempt at what they wanted the galaxy class to do while having it prepared to take up the roles that the galaxy class had to take up during its years of service.
@HuntingTarg
@HuntingTarg 4 дня назад
At that, it is a fitting name to the class, since the USS Odyssey (NCC-71832) was possibly meant to fill that role, but was cut down by a force of ships specialized in combat and conquest. Naming an entire class of ships after a ship of exploration lost in combat, which itself was named after the poetic epic of Homer, about Odysseus who seeks to overcome the curse of the gods and return home, is its own type of poetic justice.
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 4 дня назад
@@HuntingTarg yup sure is, now if canon treated the class with the respect it deserved....
@gingedss
@gingedss 3 дня назад
I've been enjoying SNW. But I don't like prequels. I have thought for ages now that instead of a TOS prequal that crew would have better suited for a post Picard Odessey based series. Same actors, different characters. The Federation desperate to show that it's dark days are behind it putting out an Odessey Class Enterprise with a idealistic Captain to show the Galaxy that Starfleet is back in the exploration game. If you throw in Disco' season 2 Anson Mount has shown he would have been the perfect great haired poster boy Captain for the Federation to roll out after Picard. Post DS9 there would still be enough tension with the Klingons to have that conflict, and it's easy to do a whole: Vulcan dealing with some issues storyline with any Vulcan so it didn't need to be Spock. I think they missed a chance to move the universe on in a fun and meaningful way.
@jefferygeter4998
@jefferygeter4998 День назад
The Borg is the main reason Starfleet basically ended the 5 years mission program because Starfleet didn't want to send ships into the uncharted space from federation space because they vessel would probably run into a Borg cube and get assimilated and the growing treat from the Romulan star empire so yeah Starfleet stoped exploring for a while.
@RamielNagisa
@RamielNagisa 5 дней назад
The Galaxy-class is a command exploration battlecruiser, capable of acting as a mobile base when needed. The class was used extensively in all these roles in various combinations before, during, and after the Dominion War. Very good video.
@ScienceRules118
@ScienceRules118 5 дней назад
Surprised you didn’t bring up the Ambassador-class, because sizing wise it’s also quite a bit smaller than the Galaxy-class.
@virag1132
@virag1132 5 дней назад
the ambassador is huge. it's like between 60% and 2/3 as large as the galaxy by habitable volume, depending on what sources you use, so the ambassador could easily do years-long missions, too. but the writing on star trek is often dumb af.
@jimdigitalvideo
@jimdigitalvideo 3 дня назад
Realistically, they would have made a lot more of the Ambassador-class because being smaller than the Galaxy-class, it would have been easier to build.
@redwren4182
@redwren4182 День назад
Forget your head canon. Roddenberry wanted a ship far larger and luxurious than the constitution and there we have it.
@dapple33
@dapple33 4 дня назад
I remember reading somewhere that the Galaxy class was originally going to be a twin warp core design, but later in its development phase, it was downsized to a single warp core.
@DeaconBlu
@DeaconBlu 5 дней назад
Love the vids… Love the format… Love all of it as it relates to Trek. I appreciate what you and am thankful for your efforts! No. Damned. Doubt! Keep it up! Please!
@ShinyaKogamiawesome
@ShinyaKogamiawesome 4 дня назад
I completely agree with you on this concept, there is something that always bothered me about the Galaxy class and the Enterprise in particular in that we rarely see it being the Flagship of a task force or the like like how we typically think of flagships in modern navies. Not until DS9 with the Galaxy Wings do we see this play out so would have been amazing to see the Enterprise and its task force of recurring characters and ships
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 дня назад
Thinking of it as a flagship in a modern navy was the first error. It's much more pioneering age of sail type stuff than Modern Navy. Hence the old trope that the Enterprise is "the only ship within range". As opposed to Star Wars which is all about the World War II aesthetic.
@darkguardian1314
@darkguardian1314 4 дня назад
I was really hoping that we would see the Galaxy class in Star Trek Discovery's final season as Burnham looks for clues on their treasure hunt. Instead we get a Romulan scout ship not seen since ST:TNG "The Defector" (1990) We got the ISS Enterprise but it's a messy canon suggesting it was an Alternate Universe of Alex "ManDark" Kurtzman. We can't have nice things anymore...
@Revkor
@Revkor 4 дня назад
that show was alternate from the start, they bait and switched
@seansteinbacher6449
@seansteinbacher6449 5 дней назад
It’s a good idea however there is an issue I believe that the USS Galaxy was shown in DS9 during the dominion war battle scenes so it probably will have to be a different Galaxy class potentially one not seen on any of the trek series.
@resurrectedstarships
@resurrectedstarships 5 дней назад
You're talking baout the Odyssey is that right? You might be right, Of course this seems like a minor thign we could uncanon if it must be the Galaxy.
@IanBurns
@IanBurns 5 дней назад
@@resurrectedstarships apologizes for barging into this discussion, but USS Galaxy was seen twice in DS9(the first time at Chin'Toka, and the second time over Cardassia). She was also part of the Battle Group that was on-route to Enterprise-E in Nemesis. Maybe Galaxy was sent out AFTER the Dominion War, maybe as part of Starfleet's attempt to pivot back to Exploration?
@magical_catgirl
@magical_catgirl 4 дня назад
@@resurrectedstarships The USS Galaxy was at the 1st battle of Chin'Toka. It is seen on screen (in Tears of the Prophets) exchanging fire with a Cardassian weapons platform.
@tillsy1701
@tillsy1701 4 дня назад
@@resurrectedstarships a lot of Galaxy class appeared during the Dominion war - in some shots so many of them that Starfleet must have restarted construction of them as after the loss of Yamato, Enterprise, and Odyssey there were only three left (plus frame stage only for a few provisional more).
@christopherlong9493
@christopherlong9493 День назад
@@resurrectedstarships the USS Galaxy was also a part of Task Force Omega in Nemisis
@chrisdufresne9359
@chrisdufresne9359 5 дней назад
I'm of the belief that Section 31 had a hand in designing the Galaxy Class. They could easily have laid the groundwork for a militarized fleet while keeping the larger Federation in the dark. Just look at how effective the class was in the Dominion War when Starfleet got off their butts and actually kitted them up correctly. More space for shields/weapons and possibly fighters/drone-craft. Heck, you could even use the ship as a mobile barracks given the sheer number of people the class can hold.
@Tuning3434
@Tuning3434 5 дней назад
I wish Section 31 was never invented. Yes, it resulted in a few enjoyable episodes in DS9, but at what cost? In hindsight, not worth it!
@chrisdufresne9359
@chrisdufresne9359 5 дней назад
@Tuning3434 It made sense to leave the shady nature of government agencies in the universe. It also helped to show that the "perfect" humanity was just a veneer. It helped me accept the humanity of humans in Star Trek.
@Simmons8519
@Simmons8519 5 дней назад
Eh... not a fan of that idea. Rather perfer the idea to this day that the Galaxy class was an outward sign of Starfleet's hubris... They thought at the time, according to both Picard and Q in the episode "Q who?" that they were so ahead of the game, that their technolgy, defensive systems and tactics and diplomatic abilities had progressed so far that their was no problem too big for ghem to safely solve, so why not fly a small starbase with kids, schools and all the comforts of home out into the unknown? After all, even Riker im "Peak performance" bragged about how he felt that training in ship-to-ship battle was such a "minor provence" as to be almost unworthy of taking the time to do so. The Federation of this era WOULD build something Like the Galaxy, just because they COULD.
@smartalec2001
@smartalec2001 4 дня назад
@@chrisdufresne9359 i always took Section 31 - at least in DS9 - to not be the reality of the Federation, but rather the devil on its' shoulder, taking advantage of moments of weakness.
@jpc347
@jpc347 4 дня назад
​@@Simmons8519 Not only is it the most fitting answer but it's also the canonical one. Given the fact that Q himself introduced the Enterprise to the Borg precisely because he found humanity to be too arrogant yet conversely woefully unprepared for the true horrors that lurked in deep space.
@zomfragger
@zomfragger 4 дня назад
The galaxy class was meant for extreme deep space exploration. Like 30 to 40 year missions. However romulans the borg and Dominion threw that out the window but the galaxy did have a perfect role on the battlefield as a commamd, control and carrier ship since its sensor and communication systems were the best in the fleet. In star trek online the galaxy found a new purpose as a colony set up ship. It would provide new colonies the resources and protection they needed until a starbase was built or the colony grew enough to defend itself.
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 4 дня назад
I tend to look at shows like Star Trek in comparison to actual history. Instead of classifying ships in type groups like we had in WWII, I would look back further to around 1800 and the Napoleonic era. C.S. Forrester's "Captain Hornblower" is credited with being one of Gene Roddenberry's inspirations. The original Constitution class NCC-1700 parallels the USN's Constitution class heavy frigate with smaller ships like the Miranda class or Klingon D-7 becoming lighter frigates (i.e. HMS Java or Guerriere,) themselves fast and capable ships. Larger and heavier ships (Excelsior) parallel the heavier Ships of the Line (60 to 80 gun two gundeck battleships) with the largest (Ambassador & Galaxy) equivalent to the largest and most powerful (as well as incredibly expensive) three and four deck ships like HMS Victory of 103 guns, USS Pennsylvania of 120 to 130 guns (1837 - look her up) and Santisima Trinidad of 120 guns. Even the heaviest and most powerful ships of the earlier times could and were deployed independently but were at their best as Flagships of battle fleets.
@Kelorel
@Kelorel 5 дней назад
From my understanding and the research I've done in the past, the Galaxy class was the final stage of Starfleet's plan of creating a ship to properly replace the Constitution class as the heart of the Federation fleet. The Excelsior class was initially supposed to do this, but after the failure of the transwarp drive it never quite recovered. Despite the Excelsior being a very reliable ship, it never quite lived up to the performance of the Constitution class. The Ambassador Class was the first step and was a test bed for a lot of new and innovative technological advancements. Once these were proven to be a resounding success the long process of designing the Galaxy Class begun. The idea, as I see it, is the Galaxy Class is supposed to be Starfleet's Golden Goose. A powerhouse that could form the heart of the Federation's defense in wartime, or perform long range exploration missions like the Constitution had. There were plenty of multipurpose vessels in Starfleet but the Galaxy was intended to be the ultimate form of this type of ship. Sure it would have to be replaced but it would serve quite a long time like the Constitution had back in its day. There were few ships that were as powerful or as efficient as the Constitution class was. Now as for the story idea you discussed, I do quite like it. I don't think it makes sense to design a ship like the Galaxy class specifically for this, but it would easily fit this kind of role. It would make sense that after the Galaxy Class was launched, a smaller vessel found a cluster of stars quite a ways from Federation space that seemed to contain the remnants of an ancient space faring civilization. Maybe it could be that what they did find from smaller ships that explored the outskirts of this region is that the civilization was very old, older than anything they've seen to date but the region is too dangerous for these smaller ships to explore too deeply on their own. There could be wild speculation that maybe this is an untouched region of space that once belonged to the Progenitors given how old some of what they found was. This would make the idea of exploring this region of space a top priority only interrupted by other concerns that threaten the Federation, something that would require the Galaxy Class to perform one of the roles it was designed for, to be the front line of Starfleet's defense of the Federation. It would make the Galaxy both the idea choice for this mission, but also make Starfleet hard pressed to spare one when it could be used to protect Starfleet should the Romulans or the Borg become a problem.
@Aleiza_49
@Aleiza_49 4 дня назад
I like the idea that's been hypothesized here, I never thought about that possibility of the Galaxy Class' purpose, but it does make a lot of sense.
@nuclearpreacher7680
@nuclearpreacher7680 2 дня назад
As a life long Star trek fan, I do find your idea for the reason why the Galaxy class ship was built is quite interesting. I too have felt that this class of ship was never really used to its full potential!! That being said, It was one hell of a ship!!
@KatsuRyu
@KatsuRyu 3 дня назад
I love your idea for the Galaxy Class. One of my thoughts, is what the Odyssey Class was designed for. As it was meant to be the replacement for the Galaxy (The Sovereign was not meant to replace the Galaxy) and be a mobile command center in the center of a large fleet. So if that's what the Odyssey was for and replaced the Galaxy, I figure that bolsters your theory on the Galaxy Class.
@Simmons8519
@Simmons8519 5 дней назад
One minor critique of the video is that you said the "area of interest" that the galaxy class intended for was only a year at warp away from Earth. By the 24th century according to manuals polublished during the airing of the Next Generation, Federation space had become so vast that it would take multiple years to go from one end of its widest border to the other... If you're going forward with the "where no one has gone before" concept here, the area of interest should be months or years beyond THAT instead. And in suggestion, the cruisikg speeds and maximum warp factor of the Galaxy class was notably higher than ships like the Miranda and Excelsior classes, at least until the Borg attack and Dominion war seemed to motivate Starfleet to overhaul these older vessels to add to fleet strength and numbers. So i would suggest that any fleet accompanying a Galaxy class would have to be one of the rarely ever seen "modern" ships of the era that came out of the Galaxy class development program: the Cheyenne, New Orleans, Apollo, Freedom, Challenger and of course the Nebula class, simply in order to keep up. And because most of these ships were still smaller and less advanced than the Galaxy, having the new flagships of the Federation as the fleet command ships still makes sense. With the galaxy class acting as a kind of starbase surrogate in the region from which the rest of the fleet could be deployed from and return to for rest and repairs while the Galaxy itself set up a small ground based starbase of a suitable planet from which long term operations could be hadled, and for subsequent fleets to arrive at and bouild up, should the region prove interesting enough upon analysis to warrant a greater Federtion presence.
@rochedl
@rochedl 5 дней назад
Very cool video, it makes sense that the Enterprise was always kept deep within Federation space, Since Kirks "Historic" 5-year mission, all ships named Enterprise are Flagships of Starfleet. The ship is more of a symbol of the Federation than an actual Starfleet ship. It may be that other Galaxy classes were scheduled for long term missions outside of federation space but the various threats that started to appear so soon after Enterprise was launched made Starfleet change its mission requirements for the class, and once the threats became more Immedient Starfleet accelerated the buildup of the class. If one of the roles of the class was as a command-and-control ship, there would only be a couple of the class assigned to various fleets during the Dominion war, and not the entire wings of dedicated galaxy class ships as seen on screen. The environment of the world that the various writers of Star Trek had grown had everyone see the Galaxy class change from an exploration ship to a front-line warship. and that line of thought continued with the Sovereign class. Continuing with what the writers of Star Trek have shown we will not see a Enterprise explorer till Enterprise J.
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 4 дня назад
I actually wrote a fanfic, years ago, where the USS Galaxy was modified for the Galaxy Project, intended to send lone starships out on long range, long term exploration missions with minimal support and resupply. Part of the modification was adding a third warp nacelle for greater warp speed and duration, a big phaser cannon in case they ran into a threat like the Borg, etc, basically resulting in the refit we see in All Good Things.
@patrickradcliffe3837
@patrickradcliffe3837 5 дней назад
Extreme range explorer was Galaxies mission, but the Enterprise D was flagship and used as a deplomatic vehicle Picard was chosen as his strong diplomatic acumen. The sub mission was a colony transport ship. A possible variant I would have liked to see was a Galaxy with drop bays for Defiant sized ships. I would think that the USS Galaxy while on the exploratory mission ran into a maguffin that either prevented them going to warp and scrambled subspace or damaged the warp coils and subspace communication coils and left them stranded.
@sergioaccioly5219
@sergioaccioly5219 4 дня назад
Since TNG was announced (I'm that old), I've been playing with the concept of a ST: Generation three, dealing with the adventures of the Enterprise J in the XXV century. Remember, Picard hadnd't made his debut yet, and Archer was in a distant, undreamed of, future. Two concepts I came up were exactly this. One was the Ent J being sent for the initial mapping of a new sector behind a distant nebula, so there wouldn't be even star maps. The ship would be responsible for contacting all the spacefaring civilizations, build an outpost etc., completely cut off Federation contact for a year - or a season. The other concept was that a generation before a small fleet was sent to a wormhole to a place decades away from the Federation border, and they were tasked to return home, founding colonies along the way. The Ent J would be sent to greet them, and evaluate how the returning pilgrims had evolved away from Federation, to define how to integrate those people into the current version of the Federation, while dealing with whatever baggage they accumulated - as in, allies and enemies they'd acquired, treaties they'd signed etc..
@stcredzero
@stcredzero 5 дней назад
Perhaps the Galaxy was dual use? I think you've pointed out how >Vast< the Galaxy class is compared with its crew complement of 1000. (Either you or EC Henry) Perhaps the Galaxy class was also used by Section 31 as a secret mobile base? Those ships are so huge, entire departments could be hidden onboard. Especially if the technology used for observing less advanced planets without violating the Prime Directive is utilized to aid this purpose.
@Obiwan7100
@Obiwan7100 5 дней назад
The Galaxy-class could carry up to 6,000 people, I imagine as a military ship it could serve very well, with Section 31 having a modified version of it similar to the alternate timeline's Galaxy-X.
@stcredzero
@stcredzero 5 дней назад
@@Obiwan7100 Section 31 could have had its own ships. But in particular, I was thinking that Section 31 could also have hidden onboard the Enterprise-D or other Galaxy class ships.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 дня назад
Just no. No Section 31 please. @@Obiwan7100 Yeah Probert designed her with a 6000 crew compliment. She has an emergency evacuation capacity of 15,000 which is, that's a lotta people.
@HuntingTarg
@HuntingTarg 4 дня назад
Nobody successfully 'hides' or stows away on a space vessel for very long, esp. one with internal sensors. The risks of being discovered by a crew and a potentially righteously angry captain are enormous. Dummy mission specialties, aliases, and cover stories are probably a better strategy.
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 дня назад
I have heard this theory, or at least a variation on it. That, the Galaxy Class, was designed and built for long-duration exploration into Darkest Space, going off the edge of the map to explore far off into completely uncharted space. However, they never got to do this, since Starfleet decided they didn't want to risk these very big, powerful ships and so kept them in Federation space or close to it, having them troop the flag, perform diplomatic missions to impress new potential member states and of course, to show potential enemies the scale and power of Starfleet to dissuade conflict with them.
@rollexpv1701
@rollexpv1701 3 дня назад
The coolest theory I've ever heard. This is the type of idea that I love so much that I want to consider it cannon. It just gives the Galaxy class so much purpuse and it feels like that special mission would be the type of event that carries out simmilar importance to the Wolf 359 battle or the Mars attack. I love the 3D models you make. They give me a very inspiring feeling to everything you say.
@critter30002001
@critter30002001 4 дня назад
I think Picard’s old professor said it best when he called Picard a Centurion on the Frontier of the Empire. The Galaxy is like a mobile colony or star base, capable of meeting any need, repairing or supporting anything in a limited fashion, and project support or power at need. It is a rescue ship, a massive survey and exploration vessel at need. A generational ship for long term exploration if required, etc. I think if a Galaxy was caught in a trap was said in the video, I think the defenses would have treated the crew like a disobedient child, strand them on a planet, reducing them to primitive levels out of a sense of stewardship for the upstart lesser species that came to their doorstep. I could then see a derelict USS Galaxy left to go its way abandoned, and waiting to be found.
@DavidButler-w7c
@DavidButler-w7c 4 дня назад
I would love to see a series like this. The idea is similar to a fan pitch about a series that jumped to a nearby galaxy with a small fleet of ships
@moseschan3915
@moseschan3915 День назад
This is such an awesome idea for a series. The USS Galaxy and it's task force could be sent to a globular cluster, which is on the edge of the galaxy and whose stars are much older than the rest of the galaxy. This is actual characteristics of real globular clusters. The ancientness of the star systems is fertile ground for mysteries and story telling. Its distant location would make it a many-year mission. The task force would include supply ships, several Defiant class ships, Runabout class ships, and even a new shipyard ship. That's right, the taskforce can repair, upgrade, and even build new ships; and do it while at warp. This would be similar to a starship towing another starship using tractor beam, which was depicted several times in TNG and DS9 episodes. The shipyard ship can even tow an asteroid for resource gathering. Ships acquiring new capabilities would be the subject matter of various episodes and character developments, the ships themselves being characters. Politics within and outside the fleet will be a major feature of the show.
@nicholasmorsovillo2752
@nicholasmorsovillo2752 4 дня назад
There are several problems with that theory in particular what happened to the U.S.S. Galaxy: Number 1:What you are describing sounds like a prelude to invasion as Starfleet doesn't do that sort of thing Number 2:The Galaxy was involved in the Dominion War Number 3:I highly doubt Starfleet Command would send civilians into dangerous areas Number 4:Captain Jean-Luc Picard may love archeology but one thing he would never do is put innocent civilians in the line of danger Number 5:The way you are describing the Galaxy Class as a warship because of all of it's weapons is all wrong with how the class was designed it was designed to be an explorer and with a majority of Starfleet officers being married the Galaxy Class was designed with families in mind so those officers can have their families on the same ship Number 6:The Galaxy Class went from being explorers to military style command ships when the Dominion war started after the destruction of the U.S.S. Odyssey a Galaxy Class Starship that was destroyed by a Dominion Kamikaze attack Number 7:If the supposed galaxy with a large number of M Class Planets did exist and Starfleet knew of it the Federation council would have been told about it
@mrfly8133
@mrfly8133 2 дня назад
In addition to what @HistoryNut-1701 said. I'd like to point out that even if your hopping from one federation system to the next. The vast amount of the year is spent onboard. So even if the Enterprise is only a few hundred light years from home. The crew still needs to _LIVE_ onboard most of the year, year to year. In this case that would include children, who have their own needs apart from the adults. So you'll need accommodations necessary to stave of cabin fever for a large diverse group of people over a long period of time. Hence it's huge size.
@DisFantasy
@DisFantasy 4 дня назад
One of the underrated features of the Galaxy-class is it's main computer. It's gigantic with enormous storage and processing. Sensors and communications are useless without a computer system to cope with the information load. Whether it's exploring or clearing interference from an enemy's jammers or cloaking device, the Galaxy-class is probably the best equipped to handle it in Starfleet, even with the introduction of newer ships and technologies. The sheer size and complexity of it would be difficult to outmatch. This lends to the idea that it's a ship of the line, able to scan and dictate the field of battle with long range bombardments, both with phasers and torpedoes.
@firestuka8850
@firestuka8850 4 дня назад
The Galaxy Class was the command ship for Wolf 359 for a reason. We know.
@Revkor
@Revkor 4 дня назад
except there was no galxy there. those could be neublas
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 дня назад
@@Revkor Admiral Hanson's communique from Wolf 359 was from a Galaxy class battle bridge. His ship was completely destroyed in the battle which is why there's no wreckage of her. But the script indicated it was a Galaxy class. There were several Nebulas though.
@tillsy1701
@tillsy1701 4 дня назад
​@@3Rayfire the part that threw me, from the first time I watched BOBW through to the mind boggling number of times I have watched since, is one of the LCARS panels behind Hanson is a TOS era display which suggested he was still on the same Excelsior he rendezvous with the Enterprise in earlier even though it also seemed he was on a Galaxy battle bridge. It was also said it was intended that Hanson commanded a Galaxy. My brain has never being able to reconcile the differences as no Galaxy would have been running such an old version of the OS and the producers didn't intentionally install it for no reason... it's like there were conflicting ideas between the production staff.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 3 дня назад
@@tillsy1701 The Red Alert? I mean I guess. It never fazed me as I like that old graphic.
@Revkor
@Revkor 3 дня назад
@@3Rayfire no it was not. for it it was why was he not using thew battle bridge or the main bridge? Note we see both in the episode and Hanson is clearly not using either. at this time there would be 5 galaxys remotely operational and 2 were reserved as spares. and SINCE hanson arrived to the Enterprise in an Excelsior it was likely he was still using it. a script draft may point to a galaxy but scripts can be ignored or changed.
@maciek_k.cichon
@maciek_k.cichon 5 дней назад
I've never developed a taste for RLM, but the concept for that series sounds smooth. B5 Crusade had something similar, but done not very good. I don't have any ideas right now, but I expect wonders!
@jon9550
@jon9550 2 дня назад
The Galaxy Class was meant to be like a mobile starbase. That is why it has several shuttle bays, including the massive main shuttle bay in the saucer. It canonically has dozens of shuttles and smaller craft, many of which are warp capable. The idea was that the Enterprise would warp to an unexplored system and shuttles would be sent to survey and explore the planets of that system. This makes the Saucer separation make more sense as well as sometimes you'd need more than a shuttle to "get the job done" so you'd leave the saucer with its huge shuttle bay behind to act as the "star base" while the drive section did some heavy lifting. The size of the ship was also because an early idea was that some client races would join the mission as they were discovered, kinda like Neelix did in Voyager but more varied. So the ship would need the space as the crew expanded. We never saw the show shape up this way mainly because it was too different from previous Trek shows, where the ship was a hero and not just a setting, and because budget meant that they couldn't afford to build shuttles for part of the first season.
@SenorGato237
@SenorGato237 4 дня назад
The Galaxy class is a projection of presence, and power. It can be sent anywhere, on any mission, and make the Federation look powerful doing it. It shows the other powers that the Federation can still be a super power, even without dedicated "warships" in production. It was a massive flex, and arguably an edifice of hubris.
@ToonamiT0M
@ToonamiT0M 4 дня назад
I absolutely love RLM's Star Trek Galaxy video. It's my happy thought when the topic of the abysmal modern Trek comes up. This idea of yours about what the Galaxy class could have been designed for is brilliant and a perfect companion to that RLM video. If only the people making the actual shows were this creature with the IP.
@jvstice56
@jvstice56 5 дней назад
The true depths of the Galaxy-Class, as others surmised, was for extremely long, possible decades-spanning, missions, given what they offered. Essentially, a luxury cruise ship with a punch. Scotty comments how big the quarters he was given, and how even an Admiral wouldn't have had such quarters on the Constitution-class. Probably no different for someone who is being transferred from a more strictly militaristic ship to the Galaxy; it could be awe-inspiring.
@MMOPC78
@MMOPC78 3 дня назад
One thing that most fans overlook is that the Enterprise herself was a "character" in TNG: just as DS9 was a "character" in that series. That being said: given what was revealed throughout TNG about the capabilities of the Galaxy clads: the plot of TNG often "down played" the actual power of a Galaxy Class. I draw this hypothesis from a few sources. In one episode: the power systems of the Enterprise were capable of generating power in the terawatt range. Two, the shield power of the Galaxy Class was twice that of the predecessor Ambassador class. Three, the phasers on the Galaxy Class were not limited to the signal sustained beam or quick burst shots seen in the series. Four, while the Galaxy Class was a large ship: the series often portrayed the Galaxy Class as slow maneuvering ship: yet ST:Picard revealed that the Galaxy Class is a very nimble ship for its size. Therefore, the Galaxy Class should have been able to out run, out gun, and out maneuver anything the Alpha, Beta, and Gamma quadrants had to offer. As such: the Glass Class was meant to be the formidable face of the Federation and Starfleet. Then again: that's just my hypothesis.
@GregNixon
@GregNixon 2 дня назад
Brings up a great point and a whole new direction for the show. Unless it's a particular circumstance, federation ships travel alone. Seeing more task force-type missions with several ships traveling together would be interesting.
@corollaguy6740
@corollaguy6740 4 дня назад
I'd love to think that the Galaxy was outfitted as you commented on a as a mobile command station but imagine its also equipped with its huge shuttle bay and expansive multiuse labs as a portable ship repair station. Then with the Romulans, Borg and eventually dominion threat, the Galaxy is deployed with some retrofitted Refit constitution class, Miranda class and Excelsior class ships. We already saw a very retrofitted Excelsior vs the Defiant in DS9 (Defiant vs Lakota) - it wouldn't be unreasonable to imagine Starfleet valuing this uncharted section of space enough to pull some ships out of mothballs, upscale them, and deploy them with a Galaxy as the center piece to be able to maintain and dispatch them within this long-term mission. I love the Trek universe!
@bobagorof
@bobagorof 3 дня назад
I think this might be a better idea for a computer game rather than a series. Allowing the audience to investigate the mystery would be more engaging than watching the cast investigate some old ruins for several episodes.
@JoseGomez721
@JoseGomez721 2 дня назад
The Galaxy Class starship can be many things. It’s so modular in its design that it can be whatever Starfleet needs it to be. An ultra long range explorer, a scientific discovery platform, a mass rescue ship, a diplomatic platform, a mobile starbase with warp engines, and lastly a “F@&$ around and find out battle cruiser.” Here is the crazy part. With the Dominion War upgrades of better phasers, better shields, improved combat structural upgrades, and imagine if any of them were ever upgraded to use Quantum Torpedoes. If they could upgrade an Excelsior class ship with those launchers, it shouldn’t be too hard to upgrade a Galaxy. That leads directly to the Galaxy Class successor design known as the Ross Class, a Galaxy/Sovereign hybrid that can be mass produced, while leaving room for more advanced designs.
@Kira-zy2ro
@Kira-zy2ro 3 дня назад
If i was leading the starfleet design office i would have made use of this modular design by having mission specific saucer sections that could be swapped. The standard one is a good long term exploration module where families can be on board making the crew's years long tours away from home more bearable (the seperation feature being handy exactly as we see it used) But it could also be outfitted with "saucer" modules (they could ofc be totally different shapes) - a battle module, a saucer with its own power system, extra shield generators, more photon launchers and phasors, maybe fighter bays or drone launchers, electronic warfare systems etc -a colony base module, which is in essence a starter town including population, that can be detached upon arrival at the designated planet and then land with "one off" engines or some engine module that comes back up, or is capable of being remodeled into some small runabout like craft for the colonists. -a troop transport saucer that can carry 8000 troops or a smaller number plus vehicles. Maybe such a saucer can detach and split into several landing craft. Troop version could also be used for colonist transport. -speed saucer, one with extra warp engines and impulse engines for high speed missions or maybe "range saucer" with large amounts of fuel either for a tanker mission or for hyper long range missions. -scan saucer Basically a huge scanning array for investigating areas where a stationary array is impractical. -cargo/equipment saucer. for hauling large equipment, bulk cargo or even smaller vehicles and craft or space station parts -base saucer, basically the central portion of a space station or starbase that can be delivered fully operational to the desired location and then expanded upon by the crew (using the above Cargo saucered galaxy classes for modules and materials) -warhead saucer. Yup a huge photon torpedo that is brought to speed by a galaxy class stardrive section and then released. For when you need that biiig badaboom. -Whale transport saucer (cause you never know when that crazy probe turns up again, and you dont want a repeat of last time, so there be whales everywhere!) - a plethora of other types or mixed types i didnt think of. Like this you could build a bunch of standard "workhorse" stardrive sections and just plop a mission specific "saucer" on, determining the "ship" purpose
@commanderpower79
@commanderpower79 4 дня назад
5:30 Oh my god I had that exact same Idea. Wow fantastic. Good to see a nice idea prove itself on youtube. Nice video man! I thought the Galaxy class was suppose to be a carrier?
@PicklesTheOtt
@PicklesTheOtt 2 дня назад
During TNG, the Enterprise was the flagship of the Federation. You keep your flagship close to home for all of diplomatic nonsense or for a show of strength. Also, the "lost starship" thing has been done. Twice. That "Calypso" episode of Discovery and Prodigy.
@BelRexy
@BelRexy 5 дней назад
I like this idea. Especially with a squad of the other galaxy lineage; New Orleans, freedom, nebula, etc
@Dan__S
@Dan__S День назад
I've mentioned on other channels that it is incredibly weird that they didn't use the star drive to drop off the saucer for long term studies/ space station duty and then send the star drive to go pick up a new saucer, explore, or act as a defense ship. The galaxy class is by design modular; it should've had other options besides a saucer section at its disposal. The nebula has a sensor pod / weapons pod that should've been able to dock with a galaxy star drive to turn it into a giant version of the defiant.
@lazylime8046
@lazylime8046 2 дня назад
The Galaxy-Class was literally designed to be a return to those deep space multi-year missions that made so many allies and discoveries. It can fabricate entire pieces of its hull and even nacelles in case of damage, has extensive hangar bays and repair bays, and everything else needed for prolongued survival without any shipyards to accomodate it. That was literally its role - the Enterprise, however, was the flagship of the federation and disregards the orignal role of a ship to instead focus on the most high-risk missions available. Whether that be combat, recon, hauling, or even just diplomacy. The Enterprise being the Federation's flagship simply means that it's the best of the best crew, and they have to be the best at everything in the roles they fill in order to be a policial and moral boost. However, it was made a point that Galaxy-Classes generally did menial work due to the breaking-down of logistics chains due to accepting so many new allies and expanding territory so quickly. The Intrepid was also made to take over the diplomatic role the Galaxy filled, as it's a lot smaller, sleeker, and most importantly not as intimidating as a giant dreadnought with those features combined. These were all explained in interviews, comics, and behind the scenes chats with the creators.
@nunyabeeswax303
@nunyabeeswax303 4 дня назад
The Galaxy class design was basically 4 ships in one. 1. Long range explorer (they could stay out of range of starbases for years without having to return) 2. Long range search and rescue. ( They shops could hold hundreds of thousands of people) 3. Flag wavers ( get to a potential hot zone before it turns hot) 4. Battle cruisers. (Not battleship) The ships are not battleships too lightly armored, they could do some damage but cant take too many hits)
@kdisley
@kdisley 4 дня назад
To be honest, the first thought I remember having when I heard that the Enterprise-D was going to be this huge "city in space" (as the media referred to it at the time) with families and a huge capacity was that it was a colony ship rather than a TOS-style spearhead hero-ship like its predecesssor. And to be honest, even as I grow older and start taking into account more logistical factors, that still feels like the most likely puropse - a smaller long-range scout-explorer vessel (like the forerunners of the USS Voyager) checks out some far-off system and finds a near-M-class world which (with maybe a little light terraforming) would make a great foothold in the new area, and once they report back a Galaxy-class ship is dispatched full of families, science labs and industrial replicators and equipped with many shuttles of various classes for a variety of roles (transport, reconnaissance, aerial cartography and surveying, etc). With seemingly-overpowered combat capabilities, the Galaxy class vessel can not only act as a staging area for the initial forays to the surface but, once the first ground bases are established, can remain in orbit as a defensive presence until a more permanent solution can be built, just in case the system turns out to be more hostile than the scout-ship had experienced... after all, maybe the smaller craft just didn't catch the attention of the local xenophobic star empire on its fleeting visit, but a whole planet being colonised by unknown aliens in their backyard would likely make more waves. And once you've sent a Galaxy-class ship halfway across the quadrant loaded up with enough resources to basically build a civilization it's a bit more difficult to turn round and come home again, so once you've committed to the colony you're going to want to protect your investment. And once you have some habitable homesteads you then have whole families on board ready to go who can populate the new world rather than starting from scratch. Depending on how long the journey was, they might have already started by the time they arrive! All in all, it seems more straightforward and sensible that this was the intended purpose for the Galaxy-class. It still doesn't make much sense why the Enterprise-D is used in a first-response or force-projection role or as a diplomatic vessel, except for the obvious fact that while it's not _designed_ for any of these roles it _can do_ them all well. After all, if you're sending a single ship to build an entire colony, you want it to have the versatility to overcome any unforseen problems - especially if you''re a year-long warp journey from reinforcements.
@tillsy1701
@tillsy1701 4 дня назад
Yes I do recall Roddenberry explaining in an interview once that the Enterprise-D was a "city in space" including families because it would be on a very long mission (the original premise being that the Enterprise wouldn't return to Earth until the end of its first 20 year mission, be refitted, and head out on another 20 year mission... rinse and repeat until decommission at 100 years). Like so many things about TNG the show evolved a LOT during its first few seasons while it found its feet.
@devinflint5554
@devinflint5554 3 часа назад
I've always guessed from the context of the show (or maybe I just remember people talking about it in the lead up to TNG coming out), that the Galaxy Class was designed for much longer (longer than 5-year) missions into very deep space, so would logically carry people's families, but also the ability to defend itself and more or less operate as a traveling city. I know the concepts of the different galactic quadrants like Delta and Gamma hadn't been come up with, but I could have sworn that's how the "new" Enterprise was described from marketing stuff back in the day.
@Shadow200001
@Shadow200001 2 дня назад
I personally saw the Galaxy Class as a sort of Generational Exploration/Colony ship. The generational aspect is self explanatory all that room allows for the crew to grow, reproduce and expand. As for colony prep. A location for a colony is discovered. The Galaxy has the job of investigating the area, or region for possible hazards, dangers, hostiles, etc. When a suitable location is decided on, the Galaxy will clear an area in a depression, with holes drilled down to magma chambers to provide thermal energy for power generation. And the saucer is detached, and with the Star drive section using a tractor beam, along with the saucer's own thrusters, engines. And the saucer is then settled into the depression and becomes an INSTANT City. Which contains EVERYTHING a City would need. Connections are then placed into the geothermal areas etc, and the initial thousand crew start and continue the Set up for the colonists, some of who will remain behind. While the Star Drive serves as a protector of the new colony until proper support arrives. Star fleet then will dispatch supply ships which include a few warp tugs hauling a new saucer section which will currently hold at least 1/4 to 1/3rd of the maximum occupancy of the saucer section. During this trip the Colonists learn the lay out of the saucer section and when they arrive they transport and start to live on their new home. At that point the now vacated saucer section becomes the NEW saucer of the star drive section and replacement crew for those staying behind. As @Historynut-1701 said, "You don’t send that ship out into nowheres on secret missions, you keep it close to home where it can be sent on “flag waving” missions around the known hotspots."
@thanqualthehighseer
@thanqualthehighseer 4 дня назад
Makes sense to have the Galaxy class as a command ship of a small fleet, Much like a modern Carrier battle group. Although on a mission like this there would still be less civilians on board due to mission risk and room made for specialist staff. A Ambassador class as a heavy cruiser, two Excelsiors as destroyers, two Mirandas as frigates/scouts and a Nebula with a cargo pod as a logistic support with a New Orleans as a supply ship.
@autocon2002
@autocon2002 21 час назад
My money's on an expedition to the Large Magellanic Cloud as a generation ship. The sheer internal volume of the ship compared with the relatively tiny crew needed to run it means it could be packed to the brim with supplies, auxiliary craft, prefabricated colony structures, etc for the Federation to set up shop in one (or both) of our satellite galaxies. Get a small fleet of them out there and they could undock and link their saucer sections into a starbase, freeing up the stardrive sections to act as explorer/defense craft. Maybe even replace the normal saucers with ones designed to land and act as ready-made colonies in their own right.
@chrisbritt4266
@chrisbritt4266 5 дней назад
Maybe they'll find out. That's the location where the doomsday machine from the original star. Trek actually came from. Perhaps they'll be several. They're waiting around and one just simply wandered off on its own, possibly from some other effect. Maybe a rogue planet or something similar? That caused it to fall out of its normal Position, and that would be interesting because so far we have not. Proud out anything else about the dim's day machine.
@stevenewman1393
@stevenewman1393 4 дня назад
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@Kendro311
@Kendro311 2 дня назад
That concept is indeed an interesting one. If I ever get around to building my own personal galaxy class intergalactic FTL exploration vessel, I'll let you guys know and we'll go for a spin.
@John.S92
@John.S92 2 дня назад
Another way is simply watching the videos from start to end, that boost a channel's rating in the "algorithm"
@chriskarnes3410
@chriskarnes3410 4 дня назад
I would really love to see a series based on a Galaxy class again.
@doct0rnic
@doct0rnic 2 дня назад
I love the idea of the galaxy class being a base for other smaller ships, would make the most sense for all the living space, the saucer can be separated to protect them while the other half goes in battle if needed using the battle bridge. Because honestly the excess crew space on board is over kill for what missions the enterprise did in the show.
@colmcoakley3916
@colmcoakley3916 2 дня назад
The USS Galaxy is seen on screen during the Dominion War in DS9. And in extended canon / beta canon, it is mentioned that the Galaxy spent much of its early career in or around the Sol system as a kind of technology test bed ship. So she was never actually lost. I've read different sources on this over the years that state different numbers but essentially the Galaxy class was only ever built in small numbers (I'm talking on screen canon now). The USS Galaxy and USS Enterprise were part of the initial first four Galaxy classes built with a further 4 Galaxy class space frames built and put into storage for later construction,. But some other sources state that there were six initial Galaxy's built with a further 6 space frames put into storage. These space frames were later built for the Dominion war but with a lot of crew amenities and science facilities omitted and missing to rush production. Additional cargo bays were added to carry the single seater star fighters Starfleet used in the war. These later ships also did not carry families or civilians. Its only really in the books, comics etc where you see a lot more Galaxy class ships operating.
@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh
@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh 2 дня назад
The series began at a place "beyond which lies the vast unexplored area of the galaxy" they pretty quickly abandoned deep space long term missions for putting around federation space charting anomalies and studying pulsars. Doing diplomatic missions, then cardasdians, romulans and kilngom civil wars.
@johnchristopherrobert1839
@johnchristopherrobert1839 День назад
They said, either in the series or in one of the novels that the galaxy class was meant to be a generation ship, where they did these long-term missions into deep space
@StormsparkPegasus
@StormsparkPegasus 4 дня назад
I like this. The Galaxy class was designed in a golden age of exploration when peace for the forseeable future was expected. After the Romulans, the Borg, and then the Dominion, Starfleet had to completely rethink their role and the Galaxy got kind of left by the wayside. The original mission in TNG was supposed to be exploratory. Beyond Farpoint Station was "the great unexplored mass of the galaxy", said early in the first episode. That's what they were supposed to be doing. But then Star Trek stuff happened, haha.
@Richy0326
@Richy0326 4 дня назад
The other function the Galaxy class serves is as a demonstration of the of the benefits of joining the federation - "come joins us, look what we can build by working together".
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab 4 дня назад
I like the plot idea a lot. I do think the general idea of the Galaxy class was for the Federation to be a truly spacefaring civilization with people really living 'out there' and not just on planets and stations, ...and basically puting whole college towns/navy bases out there families and all meant of course they had to be some of the best-protected assets out there.
@nuzzyfutzz
@nuzzyfutzz 2 дня назад
The Dyson Sphere builders! That's a storyline that would fit perfectly into this scenario. And also an excuse to return to the sphere. Say The Federation found tech/relay on the Dyson sphere pointing to the space just outside the Milky Way, or even crib from Star Wars and call it a mini galaxy. You'd thus have two anchor points for the series narrative. One on the original sphere within known federation space, and the task force sent to explore.
@BigTylt
@BigTylt 5 дней назад
Wow, the Federation did it, they found the Forerunners
@kbamamoto
@kbamamoto 3 дня назад
imagine having a squadron of galaxy class ships go wherever. each deploys their saucer sections to form a mini or starter star base. the ships then, sans saucer section, go on to do what ever it is they are supposed to do, coming back to the star base whenever they need to.
@73bbl38
@73bbl38 4 дня назад
Galaxy Class was designed as multi purpose ship to handle alone every type of mission Starfleet would throw water them. According to the technical manual, it was designed to operate up to seven years without resupply for long term exploration but also to show force like a ship of the line.
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 5 дней назад
Honestly part of me feels like it would be an iconian outpost, or if we dont want to reuse THAT ONE, could be some ancient civilization that died out that were in a dangerous area for one reason or another. Also theres an OLD thought I always had Ive always seen the intrpid class as being comparable to a pocket galaxy class. So when it was in a combat fleet it acted like a frigate, I think dont remember which ship classification was what. Though when doing its primary job as a scientific ship it acted as a mini command ship with ships like the nova class under its command with a titan or titan to act as basically body guards. Basically a small taskforce meant to explore an area of space right outside of federation territory but not in an extremely dangerous area, like I feel like what happened to the voyager is what the galaxy class was actually designed to handle. It getting lost in the delta quadrant i mean and having to come back.
@Draw2quit
@Draw2quit 3 дня назад
In Discovery season 2, it's revealed that the Enterprise never fought in the Klingon war. It was sent to deep space. The reason, Captain Pike was the opitome of the ideals of Starfleet and the Federation. He was to be the future of humanity if the Klingons won. Captain Picard also fits this description, possibly even more so. I think the Enterprise is so big and with the addition of families, it could easily be used as an ark for humanity.
@Tulik2
@Tulik2 4 дня назад
I was always under the impression that the name "galaxy " was the mission profile. Build some galaxy class ships, test them for a reasonable amount of time, put a crew of very long living species on them and let the ships fly to the next galaxy.
@MrSeriousGuy
@MrSeriousGuy 4 дня назад
The Dominion War is the second reason why the Galaxy class's original mission was subverted years later. The Intrepid class was developed to fill the long-range explorer role. This shift also capped the size of these massive capital ships. The new design philosophy favored vessels with smaller crews that were compact and fast to build, like the Defiant class. During the war, all Galaxy class ships were converted for combat operations and stripped of their luxury amenities. This is also becomes a Staffing issue too. While it took 5-10 years to construct and fully staff a Galaxy class vessel, an Intrepid class ship could be built and crewed in about one-third of that time. Post-war, one can imagine the chaos if a Galaxy class ship lost half its crew, as it would struggle to remain functional, conduct repairs, and train new cadets simultaneously.
@theodoremccarthy4438
@theodoremccarthy4438 3 дня назад
I’ve always seen the Galaxy class as more of a mobile star base than a simple starship. It was likely intended for fleet support duties on the farthest frontiers of the Federation. The Federation likely had multiple areas of interest, similar to what you described, that the Galaxy class was ideal for deployment to.
@hutt359
@hutt359 5 дней назад
The USS Galaxy herself was seen in combat operations in at least two episodes of DS9 during the dominion war. The FX crew labeled the cgi model with the name and registration number for a couple of galaxy close up shots. Other than that, I like the idea as it was always the intended purpose of the class to be extended range deep space exploration.
@boneyold
@boneyold 3 дня назад
Makes sense when you think of the writing for Encounter at Farpoint being about how it was the edge of known space etc. shows how when coming up with the pilot they had in their minds that it would be going out beyond federation space into the unknown
@bladeofakira
@bladeofakira 5 дней назад
Amazing video!
@RemyMenari
@RemyMenari 4 дня назад
I always had a similar headcanon of the Galaxy project being a new design for far-out colony ships during that peak era of Starfleet's golden age setting their eyes on the far horizons of space and designing a ship that could be self-sufficient for long periods of time, if not almost indefinitely in regions far off the beaten path. If you think about it, you could use the saucer as a space station of sorts in orbit of a planet with its dozens of support crafts (we never saw the main flight deck on the show, but it's there in concept) and have the engine section still function as an independent starship around any nearby system. The saucer alone could provide a staging point for constructing a starbase on an M class planet by remaining for months or even years, while at the same time still capable of functioning as a capital starship in the sector. While I think the idea was still for this ship to be on a decade or longer long mission on the far reaches of Federation space without "returning to the nest" ever during that time frame, I can imagine this sort of secondary function as command cruisers or colony support structures would make sense once a Galaxy ship gets left behind by the cutting edge of federation starship design - since it was never specialized for a single function, it would likely still remain a "comfortable place to live in" even 50 years after it being put into service. As for why within the fiction the Enterprise was not on such a mission, I do believe that as the flagship it was tasked with *all* tasks the Federation would ideally associate itself with - missions of mercy, aid, diplomatic, trade, exploration, show of force, and of course you would chose the most advanced impressive ship class in your fleet for that function. But if not for the other reasons mentioned in the video (the Romulans, the Borg, the Dominion war etc) and the unfortunate loss of the Enterprise D in Generations, I would assume that after a decade or two in service as the flagship, it could have likely been assigned such a long-term exploration/colonization mission.
@dragonbait1
@dragonbait1 4 дня назад
I like the idea of a Long range flagship, but I think there's a bigger missed opportunity. In addition to the scenario you mention, saucer separation makes sense for long term missions in friendlier space, like establishing relations with new planets, or extended negotiations. The saucer section detaches and orbits the planet, and the drive section can gallivant around the local area shuttling diplomats, exploring stuff etc. The Galaxy-class should really be flagships for the most important missions. But even more then that, the Drive section could be the basis of a whole fleet. With the Galaxy saucer, you have the long term flagship missions. With no saucer, you have a corvette fast reaction ship, all engine, no bulk. Bulk cargo saucers offer a range of ways to do asteroid mining or disaster relief on a planetary basis or set up an outpost in a single go. A midsized saucer with a mix of weapons and exploration amenities replaces the generalist ships like the Excelsior class. Science saucers for specialized exploratory missions. and a heavily armed saucer for a battleship role. The saucers are interchangeable, so a ship could be equipped with the right saucer (and auxiliary crew) for the job, but eventually, most ships and crews would specialize. Even so the economies of scale of building 1 drive system/engineering area for every role is way more efficient then the ships that are canon. Only ships that are truly specialized (like Voyager with it's landing capabilities) would need to be built outside this paradigm. I know the show didn't do this because they built a model, and when they need more ships, they just reshoot the model they have, and if it has to be a different ship, they kitbash one together from spares of the model they have. But it makes more sense to me then a Galaxy saucer with practically no engineering section to have a smaller saucer on a Galaxy drive section.
@paristeta5483
@paristeta5483 5 дней назад
Make one wonder why the saucer section wasn´t more developed like the prometheus were each part were more autonomous. Or a Drive Section which was more a Carrier for several Saucers or a Drive Section Train, connecting several Saucers like Train Wagons with smaller Drive Section inbetween. They also always talked about modularity for mission specific specs, but with that size, imagine a saucer build for manufcatoring mostly for that very long and deep range exploration mission, where you need set up a base. If one is able to add the ability to also start from a planetary surface, those bases couold be planted on far away planets, and a more genereal purpose Saucer with a Drive Section which now only needs to support one saucer as traveling/exploration around the system or combat if needed.
@Revkor
@Revkor 4 дня назад
likely tech. Prommie was made years later
@Culexus101
@Culexus101 День назад
Your idea is interesting, and I think early concepts of the Galaxy class did conceive of it as a very long-range explorer that wouldn't return to UFP space for a generation or more, but that idea ultimately didn't materialise in the shows. My own head canon is that the Galaxy in its Enterprise configuration was basically the luxury passenger transport version of a Galaxy Class. It still had weapons to defend itself because people are precious cargo in the UFP, and it still had science labs because Sf would put a science lab in a Type 6 Shuttle if they could, but its ideal role was transporting thousands of passengers to new colonies or evacuating people in an emergency. Other patterns of Galaxy Class could've been fitted with fewer passenger quarters and more cargo space, or science labs, or medical facilities (think hospital ship), or even combat systems like shields and phaser arrays. The saucer sections of Sf ships are generally seen as having been designed for modularity, a ship might get refitted to do it's current job better every few years but it could also be refitted to do a different job within the fleet.
@lordmortarius538
@lordmortarius538 2 дня назад
The reasoning behind the Galaxy-class project has already been explained in canon: The Galaxy was commissioned during the Federation's "Golden Age", that time right after the Klingons had signed the Khitomer Accords and become allies, right up until TNG. The Federation had no major threats at this time; the Klingons were allies, the Romulans had retreated behind the Neutral Zone and isolated themselves again, the Cardassian "war" was a very minor conflict with a minor power, and the Borg weren't even a twinkle in Picard's eye at the time. Federation membership had expanded greatly, new technologies were being developed at a rapid scale, and the known galaxy was, for the most part, at peace. The Galaxy was commissioned to be the symbol of the Federation's prosperity and power in the Alpha/Beta quadrants. It was meant to be an all-in-one ship, a grand design that could do it all: diplomacy, science and exploration, defense, engineering, medical missions, and more. It was really meant to be a sort of mobile starbase, able to provide aid and show the flag where needed, as well as acting as the C&C vessel for fleet operations. Officers were allowed to have family on board to show that the Federation was so powerful and safe that this could be allowed. It had an arboretum, classrooms, numerous holodecks for civilian, crew, and diplomat's comfort. It's power was also meant to intimidate those minor powers into thinking twice before picking a fight with the Federation (obviously the Cardassians didn't get the memo, but they're not very good at getting those kind of messages). It had twelve Type-X phaser arrays providing 360 degree coverage, and fore and aft torpedo launchers with a 250 round capacity each, with programmable warheads that could be fired in patterns and configured for various purposes. It was the most advanced tactical platform the Federation had, bigger than anything the Klingons or Romulans had built up to that point. (The D'Deridex was not revealed to the Federation until after the Enterprise's launch). One of these ships was always going to be named Enterprise, and was meant to be the flagship, so they'd do even more flag-waving missions and showing the rest of the galaxy why it's a good idea to join the Federation or to stay out of their way if you had hostile intentions. Loaded with the most advanced technology known, the biggest guns, the most comfortable living and working spaces, it was the most advanced ship anyone known had ever built. It was also equipped to go on any long-range exploration mission that was needed, as it was better equipped than any other ship for science, but also for crew morale and recreation, so a long term exploration mission wouldn't be as burdensome as prior ones had. There was no secret or unknown mission for the class; this was it. During the Dominion War their role as a command and control hub for the various combat fleets showed what they were capable of in large-scale conflict, especially with even more upgrades and refits as production of these spaceframes ramped up. So needed was the firepower they could bring to bear they were rolled out of the fleetyards with minimal crew quarters and life support, a barebones ship bristling with weapons and shielding. Starfleet could have chosen to use those resources on constructing other vessels, but the Galaxy was so powerful that it couldn't be ignored. So there you have it, the true purpose of, and the real reason the Galaxy-class was created. The GCDP was also used as a testbed for new technologies on other, more specialized classes derived from the Galaxy, such as the Challenger, Cheyenne, and Niagara classes.
@JimPlaysGames
@JimPlaysGames День назад
A fascinating idea! And it makes a lot of sense. I think a ship with the same kind of design philosophy, but much later and more advanced, would be used to explore another galaxy. It would take years to reach another galaxy, and so it would need a ship that can be a home for the crew and people aboard. It would be a decades long mission to make contact and explore one of the nearby galaxies and then return.
@Direwolf216
@Direwolf216 2 дня назад
I always thought the Galaxy class would make an excellent long range colony ship. It had the facilities for exploration, defense and research, but also had the capacity for large numbers of colonists.
@speedcreep2605
@speedcreep2605 3 дня назад
I read years ago (I THINK it was cannon) that the Galaxy is designed to operate as a FOB / starbase (FOB = Forward Operating Base) in wartime. Heavily armed for its own defense, advanced sensors to monitor fleet movements and act as fleet CIC, medical facilities for the wounded, engineering facilities for repairing ships, vast cargo spaces for resupply, holodecks and 10-Forward for shore leave... all supported by 3 shuttle bays and lots of transporters.
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