Revel Rail29 Test Ride & Review

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@bergbergphotography 10 месяцев назад

The rail 29 is uniquely "damp" like he says and it makes the bike extra fun. I've owned Yeti, Ibis and Pivot and they are all great but this bike can find flow and speed where others just don't. As for the balance issue he mentioned, I have not found that to be a problem at all for me. The bike is easy to get along with, so maybe it's just a sizing issue? I'm 6'2" on an XL for reference. So maybe if you're on the edge, go for the larger size and you'll get the benefit of a longer wheelbase and the stability that goes with it. Also he's got a Lyric while Revel builds them with a Zeb that makes the HTA an actual 65 degrees instead of steepening it by .25 or so.

@MountainDeweyMTB 9 месяцев назад

I think the type of trails you ride make a big difference when it comes to the Rail 29. I ride mine in New England where there is a lot of tech, the pedaling efficiency is amazing for the amount of travel. It looks like the trails here are more flowy that what I ride so maybe that's why we have different opinions. I have a full Rail 29 vs the Rascal on my channel if anyone is interested, I also show some riding clips on the Rail 29 so you can see the type of terrain I am talking about. I am a big fan of yumyum's reviews, just not aligned on this one.

@GravelMountainRoad Год назад

Your spot on with the balance point comment. That's exactly how I feel on my Rail29. I replaced it with the SB140LR and don't regret that decision. The one thing I can say with the Rail 29 is that it corners like nothing else I have ever ridden (which I did not expect). I had the Push 11-6 on mine with TRP brakes and those upgrades did make a significant difference on how the bike handled. However, the SB140LR with the same upgrades blew it away. Revel has great customer service and I think this platform is something they are going to build off of. I see this bike getting better moving forward. Excited to see what Revel does with this platform. Thanks for doing this review! Excellent work!!

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Thanks! So to be clear, you’re running a push coil on your sb140 lr?

@GravelMountainRoad Год назад

Yep

@thetravelingmtber311 Год назад

I recently got a Rail 29 frame and swapped my parts on to it. I have the SD shock currently as i am waiting for my 11.6 to get reconfigured for it. I have not had the unbalanced feel at all. I was actually really surprised to hear him say that and for people to agree. Maybe this frame likes a softer fork? I have a Zeb with a Push HC97 and a Secus. The fork it incredibly plush and supportive at the same time. So much so that i am excited to get the 11.6 on there to balance out the bike.

@adriandmd 11 месяцев назад

Loving the Revel Ranger! Did Alyeska DH 3x and had a blast! Closing in on 700 miles for the season. Mix of road and trail riding in the Anchorage area. I love the carbon frame and now I have an adult plastic Big Wheel!

@William.N Год назад

Been waiting for your thoughts on this one for a while. Glad you were finally a le to get your hands on one. Great vid!

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Thanks! 👍

@youarethetube6180 Год назад

How would you say this compares to the rascal? I’ve been riding the rascal for the past couple years all along the front range in CO. Only a few extra gnarly trails where I felt like I wanted a longer travel bike. The rascal is still the funnest bike I’ve owned. CBF is definitely unique. Plenty poppy and soaks up enough of the downhill chunk for me. Climbs very well on technical stuff too.

@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae Год назад

The Rail29 genuinely pedals better than the Rascal. There aren't many trails I would feel over/under biked on the Rail29 on the front range. Betasso-Leftahand (aside from maybe the steepest chutes at lefthand) the Rail29 is pretty killer.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Rascal feels more well rounded and balanced. I got along with the size M Rascal really well. Still had a soft rear end but the bike was more usable to push into and pump…

@furion.. Год назад

Their paint is soooooo sweeeeeet! It would be tough to choose between this German Military green and their electric orange - guess I'll have to buy 2 😁😁

@blakesmith9844 Год назад

Been watching for a long time subscribed and have gained some of the best bike advice from your platform… would like to see you ride the Giant trance again. Maybe to a back to back with the 2017 down Jacobs ladder. Just could be nostalgic for your long time viewers. I bought my RM altitude and BC instinct on your advice… thanks for the good times mate!

@chriswood9693 Год назад

Great paint on the bike. Nice stain on the fence. Good review, as always. I loved the Rascal, and was curious about the Rail.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Thanks for noticing the fresh paint on the fence😆✌️

@TheWrigle Год назад

Got a chance to ride this bike at the fruita big tire fest. I liked it quite a lot. I still feel like my rascal is just a bit better in most of what i ride. Waiting for revel to put out a v2 rascal. The bike is looking pretty old at this point being the first bike they released. I love it, but coupd do with a bit lighter weight, steeper seat tube angle, and udh compativility.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

I’m sure Revel will update the Rascal soon… doubt it will get any lighter weight… most bikes are getting heavier

@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae Год назад

Sizing up and adding a 170mm fork is the way to go!

@gregoryjhickman Год назад

Agreed.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Interesting! The bike didn’t feel to small… just different than what I was as expecting.

@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae Год назад

@@mtbyumyum With the lyrik, the HTA goes up about .25 degrees as well, so you're at a 65+ HTA at that point, I'm 5'10" and my Large's reach is at about 461 ish with my modifications

@hanswalser6831 Год назад

I agree I put a 170 zeb and man.

@xav_1029 Год назад

That CBF just hummmms over terrain. Got a Canfield Lithium I’m about to build up. No identity crisis there

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Yeah, well said. I haven’t ridden one yet but I hear they’re pretty incredible

@travelthenarrowtrail8660 Год назад

Great insight on this one. Surprised to see you running transmission. I would agree, it shifts slower so it gets that finesse shifting and it does shift great under load. But to be fair, XTR is lighter and cheaper in price, can't believe I said it was cheaper, but it is... See you on the next one.

@benjamingarrison4362 Год назад

I have a Racal and I'd say the suspension is most like the Ibis DW-Link. If you look at them side-by-side they are very similar. Very energetic pedaling

@furion.. Год назад

...yet 2 different designs & patents. If it rides anything like an IBIS, it's a winner!

@Slinkylinky179 Год назад

Thanks so much for this review. Im a rascal rider and have been this close to pulling the trigger on a rail29 every day since it was announced. I love my rascal but I have a few issues and it seemed like the rail29 was just my rascal with the issues fixed. I really want a bike with the same ride character as my rascal but with a little extra travel and a little more confidence on bigger stuff. I just want to be able to also have fun on my local New England trails which are more about tight technical stuff and punchy climbs than big bombing descents. (Yes, there are big sketchy rock features everywhere but that just isnt the riding I do). The rascal is almost perfectly suited, but when I go to the bike park or travel I feel like I want just a little more confidence. I made the mistake of demoing a transition sentinel at the bike park last season and while I absolutely loved it there, I could tell it would be way too much to handle on 99% of my rides. Im also 5'9 on a size L rascal which is almost spot on. I feel like I want it maybe 10mm smaller in the wheelbase and reach, but the medium felt just a little small. Also the seat tube angle is a bit annoying esp with a 150mm fork. I end up doing a lot of hunching over and a lot of out of the saddle climbing. All of this made the medium rail29 feel right on paper but youre almost my height and still describing a lot of what i thought was my rascal being too big (the balance)

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Maybe consider looking at a size medium Pivot Firebird. Climbs really well for such a big bike but doesn’t feel too “enduro”

@Slinkylinky179 Год назад

@@mtbyumyum interesting! I honestly discounted it assuming it was way too much of an enduro race bike for me, someone who is unskilled and just wants to use long travel to compensate for lack of skill lol. Will def look into that though. Tbh maybe ill just throw a coil and/or burlier fork than the pike on the rascal and call it a day. Just waiting for a used push 11-6 or for a sale.

@Slinkylinky179 9 месяцев назад

So after much deliberation and taking your comments on balance into consideration I ended up just pulling the trigger on a canfield lithium. It seems like its geo and travel numbers are a little more appropriate for its category but still approachable like revel goes for. Medium has a 20mm longer wheelbase with same reach compared to a rail29 and it has a 64.5 hta. That being said its 160/170 travel which sounds huge to me on paper but im willing to give it a shot. Have you ridden any canfields? I know youre a big cbf fan but I know you also seem to prefer the carbon everything Gucci builds which isnt totally the canfield vibe though their frames really arent bad weight wise for alloy.

@rekamniar Год назад

That was brutally honest. Really good review. What if you slap a Zeb 170 and different tires?

@DavidFoundCo Год назад

Hey yum yum, I think you really should try the mayhem 130 or 150 from spot bikes. I demoed one and really liked the climbing and descending on it

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Several people have recommended this brand to me. Maybe I’ll reach out to them. Thx!

@Austi-xt7tu Год назад

I personally thought my rascal and switchblade were just a way better bike. Having trouble loving my rail29. Even bought a custom ohlins ttx2 for it. It helped but it’s just not a rascal or switchblade to me.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Bingo. I think this comment hit the nail on the head. There are just other bikes out there that are so good. It makes bikes that are average or pretty good not seem up to snuff. Great comment!

@charlesycoker 11 месяцев назад

I have been on mine for about 2 months Have a Fox 38 and X2 Killer for technical rocky singletrack Very stiff frame and with the 38 is more solid feeling than the Orbea OccAm 150160 (36) I had Wes at Velorangutan in Austin is my dealer

@JT-MTB Год назад

Great review. Also, Revel does do XT build kits as well.

@skinny8019 Год назад

still waiting for the ranger review on your blue trails. lol

@havenoutdoors584 8 месяцев назад

Loved my Revel Ranger! I'm sure the Rail is just as neat.

@mattmiller7650 Год назад

I own the Rail 29. Agree with the balance point. A little more reach and wheelbase would likely solve that issue. Amazing bike overall

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Yeah. It really is an amazing bike… just wish I could have jelled with it better. The other thing is, manufacturers are making really great bikes now. Basically everyone makes incredible bikes, so you really have to make the best product possible if you want people to buy it. You can’t just have this incredible suspension. it Hass to be the complete package.

@mattmiller7650 Год назад

@@mtbyumyum if you had a choice to trade it in for a Ripmo, especially at 25% off, would you?

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Yeah, I like the ripmo better but I wouldn't run the x2/fox38 combo... I would swap it for the float x / fox 367 on the Ripmo!

@mattmiller7650 Год назад

@@mtbyumyum lyric and maybe a cane creek Kitsuma coil 😉

@steventom892 Год назад

I have a friend with the Rascal and love how light it is under foot. It pedals light and quick. Much different than my SB130LR which pedals heavier. Did they lose that feeling in the Rail? Great review as always!

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Yeah, I loved my rascal. I could highly recommend that bike to just about anyone. And it’s capable enough to take anywhere. Between the two, I would go with the rascal over the rail.

@user-rj9ui3sz8u Год назад

Dat paint job! Looks awesome.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

It does!

@user-dr4vw9kj6e Год назад

I am really interested in the Rail 29 and how it compares to the Pivot Switchblade. I ride east coast trails where there are a lot of chunky rock gardens that require you to pedal through - low bottom brackets are a problem. A friend rides the Yeti SB130 and he just went to 165mm cranks to reduce pedal strikes. My current bike is a 2018 SC Hightower (29). I find this bike to be very efficient and am not planning to get rid of it. I’m looking for something a bit bigger and with a bit more DH capability that is still a good climber and good for technical riding. The Switchblade always seemed perfect because of the high BB, but I’m afraid it wouldn’t be much of a difference from my current Hightower. I’m hoping to do some demos but that would involve doing a trip to somewhere that has demo bikes. I’d appreciate any inout/thoughts.

@Austi-xt7tu Год назад

I wish you would of did this 3 months ago. I wouldn’t of bought mine 😂 love you yum yum !

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Ah, sorry bud. Like I said, I don’t think anyone’s really making bad bikes now it’s just the standard is so high because everyone’s making good bikes. You just have to produce an incredible product to stand out.

@taylordarion3477 Год назад

What’s wrong to the point that you wouldn’t have bought it? I wanted to buy one next spring

@pan0rama546 10 месяцев назад

Interesting perspective, I very much appreciate the insight in all of your bike reviews. I've actually picked up a Revel Rail 29 frame recently. I chose it over Ibis Ripmo. Do you think putting 1degree angle headset on it would benefit the bike or not really. I've had used Wolf's tooth headset on few other frames with no issues and figured 64 degree HTA would fit the Rail 29 pretty good. I guess only way to find out is to throw it on there and see how it feels 😂

@mtbyumyum 10 месяцев назад

Never used and angle headset. Good luck!

@pan0rama546 10 месяцев назад

Called Revel to check with them first, no angle headsets approved so I gotta stick with regular headset, no biggie. Few guys at Revel run 179mm forks on their Rail29 and since that doesn't void the warranty, I may do that at some point.

@dennyhockenberry9117 Год назад

I had similar issues with Revel. My Rascal CBF plushness was amazing but the short wheelbase, slack seat tube, and short reach made the bike very odd and conflicted with the rear wanting to go fast and eat everything. I wonder to this day if I should have upsized and would have enjoyed it more but the geo was really discouraging and was not a confident ride at all on fast and/or steep terrain.... It's like an XC bike geo with a enduro feeling suspension. Some people may love that though, but it was not for me.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Yep. The cbf is so unique and so fun to ride… I really wanted to love this bike. Spent a month on it.

@cliffordrichardc 4 месяца назад

yumyum also very fast

@lanetaglio Год назад

...that hub sound!!😊

@mtbyumyum Год назад

🤘

@scotthenry3904 Год назад

Is the balance issue because of the Lyrik instead of the spec'd Zeb?

@mtbyumyum Год назад

I don’t think so. At 140 lbs, the Zeb is no fun for me to ride… if anything it would’ve exacerbated the issue and felt even more stiff than it already felt upfront.

@skinny8019 Год назад

@@mtbyumyum needs a pike up front @ 150mm...

@garysbraccia4980 5 месяцев назад

great review. where are you riding?? have you ridden the rascal V2

@mtbyumyum 5 месяцев назад

Riding in Draper Utah. Corner Canyon trail system. Haven’t ridden the new Rascal yet

@Tom-fn8xc Год назад

Great review! Would you get the rail 29 or rascal for someone who rides park about 5 days a year, and otherwise does northeast tech riding? I test rode a rascal and it was awesome! Unfortunately the shop by me doesn't have a rail 29 for demo

@daytch9485 Год назад

Sounds like they just have to get with the shock manufacturer and do some valve tuning

@gc2dedge Год назад

Can you try to compare the Firebird to the Rail 29 and the Rocky Mountain instinct?

@venronux Год назад

Eagerly awaiting your Mach 4 SL review Jason!

@mtbyumyum Год назад

2023 Pivot Mach 4 SL Test Ride & Review ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0t9ZSMPRwGo.html

@jonathanzumwalt4392 Год назад

Two things: I would be curious to see how you would compare it to the Rascal (better balance?) and which one is the quiver killer? Also you need to try the PUSH 11.6 on some of your bikes, on the Rascal it makes it even better than a magic carpet, angel wings???

@mtbyumyum Год назад

I owned the Rascal after it first came out. I liked it better than the Rail29. For sure more balanced

@LastAphelion Год назад

I'm getting Transmission soon on an Arrival 152, I'd always prefer to have mechanical and never worry about batteries which I loathe, but I was wondering. I probably have something like tendonitis/carpal/etc and was curious if the transmission buttons were super easy to press, as mechanical levers strain my hands pretty badly. Stiff buttons like on a tv remote still hurt. And if anyone has the new stealth code ultimates, are they a less hand fatiguing brake to operate? My dream brakes are hayes dominions so I was considering swapping over as I've heard they're very light and awesome to bleed Super hyped to see how the bike will compare, the geo seems to be between the Rail/Ripmo and a Sentinel. I hope it won't feel too slack, I heard it is extremely good on the climbs! When people describe a bike as liking to be pushed hard, I hope that doesn't mean it always feels boring pedaling along unless you're going super fast?

@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae Год назад

I think the old axs controller is easier to press, they are compatible with transmission too. Hayes will be much easier on the fingers than the codes.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

The code brakes caused more hand/finger fatigue than my shimano brakes. As for the transmission buttons, they felt easy to press…

@roshandissanayake8053 Год назад

Thanks for the video, Will you be comparing the Revel Rail 29 with the Yeti SB160? It would be great if you do.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

I plan to ride the 160 soon

@djean53 Год назад

In terms of balance did you find the rascal was more balanced than the rail?

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Absolutely! The Rascal was excellent and very approachable… easy to ride.

@trentvlak 11 месяцев назад

It rides like any Horst link bike except it's more expensive and heavier.

@charliefoxtrotter 16 дней назад

these are good reviews for lightweight girly men...real men ride real bikes: Revel bikes!

@christullmann7666 Год назад

Bike looks amazing . I'm in the market for a trail / all mountain bike . Want to spent around 4-6 k . Midwest terrain ..Hilly ,flowing, river rocky terrain .. Name a few bikes you would recommend ..Thanks

@mtbyumyum Год назад

If your down hill speed is on the slow side, go with the Ibis Ripley. If you like higher speeds go Yeti SB140 LR all day🤘 and I think Chris at Salt Cycles has both on sale now… give him a call. 801-943-8502

@andydinger7339 Год назад

Nice video! Where you guys riding, Prince Creek?

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Corner canyon, Utah

@wtfdoicare Год назад

been waiting for some revel reviews from you. Rascal next?

@djean53 Год назад

He already has a rascal review he owned one for a while.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Check my library of videos… handful of videos on the Rascal

@wtfdoicare Год назад

@@mtbyumyum sweet, sorry i didn't check. can you please review an ibis hd6? None of my fav youtube revieweres have done that yet, really need to know.

@scotsemmens596 Год назад

The 76 degree seat tube angle kills or for me.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Interesting. I love the sta

@scotsemmens596 Год назад

@@mtbyumyum I'm 6'4" so it gets fairly slack on a XL.

@jimm244 8 месяцев назад

Sounds like it needs to loose 1/2° of HTA.

@jack91522 Год назад

9 rides in and you say the yeti is better. Not a good comparison given such a short time.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Not sure what I might learn after 4 or 5 hours on the bike… I’ve probably got close to 15 hours on this thing…

@youbikewithatube Год назад

Looks very similar to a Rocky Mountain Instinct

@mtbyumyum Год назад

The Instinct was a more well rounded bike in my experience!

@user-rj9ui3sz8u Год назад

No wonder I cant sell my bike everything is on sale now.

@mtbyumyum Год назад

Haha yep. The used bike market is difficult right now.

@michaeldiamond7063 Год назад

Wonder if the identity crisis would be less with a 170mm fork?

@leomman0913 Год назад

That would decrease the reach a little. Might need a 150 fork, it would increase the reach and balance the rear and front travel

@gregoryjhickman Год назад

I have 170 on mine and it’s epic.

@djean53 Год назад

@@leomman0913 but it would lengthen the wheelbase, which would make it more stable, also the additional travel might match the rear end plushness. The reach difference would be pretty minimal.