@@raiha3266 That he THOUGHT they didn't have enough knowledge of. But he had to stop them halfway, for fear that they'll beat him and expose his lies...😂
How is he wrong? When Allah of Islam sounds like Satan, the Qur'an may say the Jesus was made to be crucified but then why did the deciples see him with his pierced hands and side after he rose If he wasn't crucified?
@@thetornadocrusader968 Allah SWT sounds like satan? So telling you to not drink or eat pork or worship dirty and idols and don't kill, insult, lie, do adultery sounds like Satan? Idk sounds a bit too far off what Satan would preach. 😓
@@SasaDapabruh so real, the way they say "Allah is satan" is just so stupid, because if Allah was "satan" nothing would be forbidden, like every evil would be encouraged 🤣😂
@@StudyIslamOfficial they want to feed off their ego and enhance their claim: Islam is bad. So they have to use illogical ways since Islam is the furthest from being false.
Truly we are blessed that Allah granted us the gift of guidance and islam. May He keep us in this state to the very end and may He guide us all before it is too late. Ameen.
It doesn't make sense to say "mashallah to those brothers" Don't say MashaAllah, it's for yourself. Say Allahuma Barik for other people ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2zsx41RBdPw.htmlsi=GTmT9BZTUFo5Xwcp
@user-wq7mf2pd7lThis point has been debunked because it’s built on false assumptions. Please provide the evidence that no one can provide for your claim 😂
also good thing to say the gospels werent actually eyewitnesses gospel of john WAS NOT written by john it was written decades later by someone in greek he WAS NOT a eyewitness
He lost. He no longer able to respond, so he shut them down. I have high respect towards that revert. Reverts tend to have a better understanding of Islam, and that's something I've noticed. To take a leap of faith is a significant decision, so most people conducted extensive research to gain a better understanding of Islam. Hats off to them!
Usually when people revert back to Islam is because they’re influenced to or forced to. Because anyone who really does understand the Bible wouldn’t want to leave it. There is no truth in Islam especially the part when Muhammed did so much wrong and Jesus did nothing wrong.
@_sierraluna_ FYI, We use the word "revert" instead of "convert". Because we believe that every human being is born on the nature of Islam, but his parents, relatives, or environment make him something else, taking him away from nature.
@@mrmuhammad11 that makes zero sense. How about the child born of say, atheist parents, Christian parents, Catholic parents, Hindu parents, etc.? And what if the person who used to be Muslim converted to another religion and never return to Islam? Were they never Muslim in the first place? Again this makes zero sense. Nobody is born anything. They have to want to follow a religion in order to be considered a part of the religion. You have to confess it yourself. You can’t be born in a religion. That’s impossible.
Funny thing is, when he was spewing so many lies in his speech, they boys never interrupted. When it was their turn, he wouldn't shut up! & interrupted every sentence! Man got cooked!!
yup. it just basically mean "dont call me good i am not God, only God is good". theres nothing about humbling himself there. saying God humbling Himself is blasphemous. humbling himself to WHO? human? another God? the fact that he have someone or something to lower down to is clear enough that he is not God.
But that is literally christian doctrine, God loved humans so much that He humbled Himself to die for their sins, but then He got resurrected anyways so its like a show and not real death, and now christians have to keep glorifying and believing this act was the only means to forgive their sins
@@priomquraishi1164 well yeah, because what do they have to go on? A book compiled by 40 different authors over 1000 years , with so many incoherencies and contradicitions that most christians that study it seriously become atheist or agnostic. Preachers have to keep them in the dark about the real history of the church, and they repeat adnoseum these slogans and catch phrases about original sin, damnation, salvation, Triune God etc etc, to shut down rational discourse, and when it gets challenged, they say mystery, or no way to prove it, you just have to believe. I feel sorry for them actually, especially since Islam is so negatively portrayed in the media, they have to overcome a huge societal bias to even bring themselves to consider that it is worth looking into. GOD GUIDES WHO HE WILLS, AND HE GUIDES EVERY SINCERE SEEKER.
@@Unworthy_Servant7 he did not claim that he was the One True God, he claimed only the Father was the One True God, the God of Israel and the other past prophets, he did not say other prophets believed he was God, he taught how to pray to the Father, he showed how to worship the Father, he glorified the Father while on earth, claiming all his works and miracles r done by the Father who worked through him, he also claimed by himself he was nothing, that it was the Father in Heaven, who did everything, he also explicitly states the Father is his God when he tells to Marry that he is about to ascend to the Father
The last part is the most important, He said "the same I cannot show the new testament is the word of God" He himself dont believe whether the bible is the word of god or not, yet he keep talking abt christianity, asking people to christianity, jesus is god die for my sin and bla, bla, bla.. This is what we call BLIND FAITH!
He said there's no way Muslims can definitively prove that the Quran is the word of God and the same goes for Christians with the Bible. There was no explanation of proof for the Quran, other than his friend memorizing the Quran in Arabic, which is not proof that it's God's word. Also, the student brought up the different languages in the Bible but spoke as if Aramaic and Arabic are linked together. Which they are not the same. The likely reason for the Bible being written in Greek , Hebrew and Aramaic is because those were the most common languages in the areas at that time. I'm saying this not to bash Muslims it's just a matter of fact, neither of us can PROVE the Bible or Quran is the word of God. One or both can be disproven if they lack consistency or contradict themselves. Jesus is Lord I pray you find him.
The last part where he forcefully shook hands with the students says much about how miserably the pastor failed and tried to abruptly stop the students to continue the conversation to save further embarrassment.
@@MR2105 يعني تقصد ان النصراني احد الظالمين ومن الظالم الثاني المسلم !؟؟ وبخصوص مافية دعاء في غير محله المقصد مثلا لو كنت في عزاء وانت تقولهم الله يديم عليكم الافراح هل هذا الدعاء في محلة ؟ ويعطيك العافية
أراك رافضي. والله ان الكفر ملة واحد. كلكم تشركون بالله و تعبدون بشر، دون الله. وهذا الدين (اهل السنة والجماعة)، رغما عن انوف عبدة المسيح و النار المجوسية.
How do we know that Jesus is Lord😆? - Pastor: Of course, the Gospels did not say that He is God or that God was incarnated in Him, but we invented this because we did not want to abide by the laws and taboos.😂😂. and we found the easiest thing to pin our mistakes and transgressions on poor Jesus because....................................... We relax, it's okay, what's the problem? 🤭🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
The pastor gave up, he had no chance against the truth that hit him sooo hard…he felt that he has embarrassed himself and wanted to stop the conversation fast
By who or what, actually. The who might just be the Roman authorities. Maybe, possibly, aided by some elements from within the compromised Jewish community. But to me it seems obvious that the Romans could've staged a faux crucifixion, playing it off as if they executed Isa(as). This makes a lot of sense when you think about it. The what might refer to the four Gospels. After all, it's the Gospels that made the masses believe in it. So "it was made to appear so to them" could refer to a Roman plot (that eventually backfired for them), and to these unreliable biographies that were being produced and spread. Allahu a'alam.
..humbles himself.. ofcourse all the prophets were humble..never claimed to be more than a messenger .. God is greater than all the creation, when all the prophets performed miracles with the permission and blessings of the Almighty God who sent them, how could they claim some thing else..
thank you brother. all the chistian preacher knew the true, but because that is the main way of thier income and how they growing up with close minded.
The demonstration only makes sense if it is scientific, otherwise it is just a more or less clever game of words, a sterile philosophizing that is of no interest
@@maulinux1 It's scientifically proven though. You want a real life experience? Then go to a muslim. Or better yet, go find the earliest manuscripts you can find of the Quran itself. Go, and then ask a muslim scholar or someone who memorizes or any muslim the full Quran to recite it in front of you. Fact check it back with the manuscripts in your hand.
@@maulinux1 you want a scientific proof? On what the Quran is authentic? Or is the Quran true? I am giving a very simple solution, which even young kids do this fact check. You want a scientific proof? Aren't you breathing right now? What are you standing at? A hologram world? No. It's a real world. So there's proof no1. Any creation must have its creator. And Allah is almighty that he created everything in the world. Nature, the air, oxygen, gravity, everything. People just discovered it later on. What? You think before Newton discovered gravity the people around are floating?
@@electric1150 I know most of the debates are rubbish If he genuinely wants to talk about Christianity He wouldn't make our religion loo Bad I am Muslim
God is not a man, that he should lie; Neither the son of man, that he should repent: Hath he said, and shall he not do it? Or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? - Numbers , 23 : 19
"Sorry guys you are not listening to me " lol he is refusing to listen to them and he has nothing solid to offer in the conversation then bails like a coward.
I like Cliffe as a person, but his beliefs could use some work. I know deep down inside he knows Islam is the truth, he's a very smart man, but unfortunately for Christians, it doesn't matter how smart somebody is, you still can't explain it logically.
Allahumdullah these 2 brothers broke it down so well and thabkyou brktger for giving your opinion on this vid also bro. May Allah bless you and your family and forgive us all . Ameen 🤲🤲🤲🤲
American Christian priest, biblical scholar, theologian and exegete Raymond E. Brown [1928-1998 G] said: "Approximately three thousand manuscripts of the Greek New Testament, copied between the 2nd and 17th centuries, have been preserved (in whole or in part), to which must be added more than two thousand handwritten lectionaries containing sections (pericopes) of the New Testament arranged for liturgical reading since the 7th century. These witnesses to the NT text do not agree with each other on many points, but few of these differences are significant. No autograph or original manuscript of a New Testament book has been preserved; the differences occurred during the copying of the original. *Not all are the result of copyists' errors; some are the result of deliberate changes.* Copyists sometimes felt obliged to *improve* the Greek of the received text, to *modernize* spelling, *add* explanatory phrases, *harmonize* the Gospels, and even *omit* a point they considered doubtful. One might think that the oldest preserved copies (in whole or in part) of the Greek NT are the best guide back to the originals; but this is not necessarily so." What do we know about the New Testament? page 86, Bayard French editions, 2011.
for me this cliffe guy is just coward 😂 he just targeting college student that dont have many knowledge yet and never debate with people in dawah team what a joke and also every clip that these cliffe guy got in internet is full of misinformation of islam and just him yelling preaching mode.
The Quran's exceptional attribute of being memorizable from cover to cover, coupled with its claim to be the word of God, presents it as a profound source of guidance. This underscores the importance of delving into its teachings and contemplating its message seriously. With such unique characteristics, the Quran emerges as a compelling resource that warrants careful study and consideration for those seeking guidance in their lives.
There is no where in the Bible that Jesus AS specifically said he was God. It was in the Council of Nicea where they placed the Trinitarian belief in place. Without that the Christianity as it holds today does not hold. Only Unitarian Christians who follow Jesus's teachings, which then comes down to Islam.
Even the pastor says Mary living in Palestine,,,that mean there's Palestine,,not and no ISRAEL,,,and Palestine is in the world map and not ISRAEL 🌍♥️🇵🇸🤜🤛
Cliffe knew he couldn't defeat the boy because the boy had good knowledge of both the bible and the quran while cliffe only defended the corrupted bible.
"We see clearly but our eyes are only half open..." -Ubayed ibn allah jahsh (muhammad's former cousin) Also the verse Quaran 6:103... Without the lies, islam does die...
Mass transmisson refers to the beggining of the transmission, essentially we have mass transmission since the time of muhammed while we dont have that with the bible because its line of transmission doesnt go all the way back to jesus because we dont know who wrote the gospels.
That’s crazy, bro couldn’t take it anymore. Losing his followers to the truth because he’s unable to deceive these 2 brothers is too funny😂, he couldn’t take any logical answers hence why he had to ask them to leave
One time he said Gospels written by mark, Luke,John as an eye witness accounts,,,etc they are all humans,,, and other time he said bible is the word of God,,,, he contradicted himself
Oh they made some headway! That he destroyed you and him getting loud didn't intimidate the brother! May Allah reward him! His tactic is that he gets loud and confrontational and it intimidates people. That brother stood 10 toes down!
These two guys really did a great job Alhamdulillah. Cliff is a good speaker but he couldn't outsmart these two guys so he had to get rid of them real quick
I’m a Muslim and I believe that Jesus Christ was crucified. The Quran doesn’t actually refute Christ’s crucifixion. The only verse that speaks about it simply posits that it was predetermined by God (part of Allah’s qadar).
His "Process of mass transmission" point works Christianity as well, what is more likely is that they are both wrong. Just as Christians changed and wrote religious texts according to their own needs so did Muslims.
The historical documents of pertaining to jesus are very weak when compared to the documents we have on muhammed and the fact that we have multiple reliable lines of transmissions without holes between narrators that go directly to muhammed. The quran was memorized by many of the sahaba and every sahaba knew at least a portion of the quran.
You can’t be by definition god if your no longer Omni potent. Similarly if your Omni potent and no longer Omni potent that means there’s no going back. Let’s assume Jesus was somehow god and “died for our sins on a cross”. Are you saying we killed god? Are you saying an innocent party can justly take the punishment of the sinner and leave said sinner free to do the same thing again? Not to mention That means god is dead and no longer exists. And since everything derives from god eventually. The universe will collapse and cease to exist
