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Review of a Family Heirloom Cornet - Silbron NVA Boosey and Co from 1920 

Trent Hamilton
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@boazryan-palmer5186
@boazryan-palmer5186 6 лет назад
I am a grade 4 trombone player who has played for two years, I recently stumbled upon the triple tonging video and thought it was the most helpful yet. Thank you, keep up the great work.
@BMAN94
@BMAN94 6 лет назад
Do you have a new audio recording set-up? The audio sounds fantastic at the end.
@izhaanahmed3038
@izhaanahmed3038 6 лет назад
Trent adds reverb to the audio to gain the effect of a concert hall.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 6 лет назад
I would certainly never recommend to do this to a historically or sentimentally important instrument, but the excessive valve clearance can be reduced (somewhat) by soaking the pistons in engine additive containing PTFE, such as Slick 50. You will want to (1) fill up the air paths in the pistons with clay because you don't want them getting narrowed, and (2) soak only the metal piston itself (which may mean hanging them at an appropriate height), and (3) keep the liquid at about coffee-drinking temperature. The last makes the process take hours or a day, rather than forever and a week as it would at room temperature.
@douglasfur3808
@douglasfur3808 6 лет назад
Could the red stuff be sealing wax to a fix the corks in the water keys? Could silver bronze be a nickel copper alloy?
@cubephonium4501
@cubephonium4501 5 лет назад
ITS PIZZA TIME
@Antwort2und40
@Antwort2und40 6 лет назад
Beautiful playing, Trent! I recently picked up a Boston 3* from the late 1800’s, it’s a wonderful instrument to play, and has such a pretty sound. A few notes: these old instruments are extremely mouthpiece sensitive. You’ll want to use the mouthpiece designed for it, to get the best playability and intonation. Also, cornets/trumpets didn’t start having finger hooks until mutes became popular in Jazz... it’s pretty easy to get used to playing without a hook if you play your normal trumpet/cornet with your finger on TOP of the hook for a month or so. I now find it more comfortable that way, it naturally relaxes your hand and also prevents excess mouthpiece pressure. Final thought: I have used Monster oils since finding out they have a copper passivator; I think that’s a big benefit for antique instruments, and I run an oil-soaked spitball through my antique horns to spread that passivator love :) I like their oils a lot, especially the “smoother” (or original) for vintage horns, and the Adams for modern horns. A little goes a long way. Their slide oil is nice and handy, and the slide grease is very thick which is also a benefit for vintage horns which may have loosened up a bit.
@3foothurricane
@3foothurricane 5 лет назад
Pizza time
@shosho_hrubblefongers9311
@shosho_hrubblefongers9311 5 лет назад
Indeed
@issuesexplained681
@issuesexplained681 6 лет назад
I actually own an old 1940’s cornet similar to this made by Gretsch, and it was also passed down through my family. Great review, keep up the good work!
@billbilly1999
@billbilly1999 6 лет назад
Issues Explained cool
@CrazyCrapDotCom
@CrazyCrapDotCom 6 лет назад
love your vintage instrument videos
@georgetpiano
@georgetpiano 5 месяцев назад
Hi. I have a 1899-1900 Boosey and Hawks Imperial cornet with the same tension spring system. One of the valves would not return properly so I have replaced the tension system by taking out the tension mechanism and spring and simply putting in compression springs. Works faster and more sensitive. Cheers George, NSW Australia.
@jamessievert9813
@jamessievert9813 Год назад
I have a Cleveland Cornet from the 1920s missing its second valve piston. I'm dreaming of the day when I find a replacement and can get that beauty playing again. If anyone has one lying around, give me a shout. I'm in Northeast Ohio, USA.
@logotrikes
@logotrikes 2 года назад
Notwithstanding that this cornet is harder to play, to me it sounded crisp and creamy. Clearly an instrument of great quality when new....
@joshM__
@joshM__ 6 лет назад
so there's a "distin" london cornet sitting on ebay for a heavy $5999, anyone know anything about distin, or london cornets dating back to 1880s, 90s? the description doesn't give much context. just curious
@jeremypeplinski5098
@jeremypeplinski5098 6 лет назад
Could you provide a link to that listing? It sounds interesting (and overpriced, most likely). Robb Stewart has some good articles on Distin, this one on a London-era cornet might be most useful: www.robbstewart.com/distin-london-cornet and there are more articles on them here: www.robbstewart.com/distin-instruments
@joshM__
@joshM__ 6 лет назад
Jeremy Peplinski unfortunately, as soon as I went to check the listing, as I had it as a watched item, it was removed. It had been up for quite a while, so i'm suprised to see it gone, but thank you for the article!
@nickfuscaldo3933
@nickfuscaldo3933 6 лет назад
how do you do your audio for when you play because mine always sounds good in person and horrible in camera audio. do you have any tips for me on how to fix this and if so, what are they? thank you :)
@hauke3644
@hauke3644 2 года назад
Resistance and low projection are not necessarily bad. It may not be the right cornet for a brass band, but maybe for a quintet?
@michaeltroster9059
@michaeltroster9059 2 года назад
The instrument seems to have so many problem areas, one wonders why anyone would want to purchase one. Interesting as a curiosity, however.
@torvickiii
@torvickiii 6 лет назад
Trent any suggestions for an inexpensive trumpet because I currently play Tuba in my high school and I’m interested in playing Trumpet for Jazz band and tips and keep up the great videos 👍
@patoni860
@patoni860 4 года назад
Those could be the pieces out of a kazoo... That horn players used to put in the 3rd valve slide or down at the bottom of the tuning slide... You might want to see is that what they are for
@garyjackson2890
@garyjackson2890 6 лет назад
Hey Trent. I find with my flugel that has leaky valves that I can get a longer lasting seal by using 4 to 5 drops of monster smoother and I also add 2 to 3 drops of their slide oil. Cheers
@blanchae
@blanchae 6 лет назад
Everytime I hear the Naples piece, I picture Bugs Bunny
@panzerbuchse1828
@panzerbuchse1828 5 лет назад
blanchae But I thought even more about bugs bunny, because he said it was made by acme
@ericpisieczko1585
@ericpisieczko1585 6 лет назад
Hey Trent, I wanted to ask you about a euphonium. I am a euphonium player and I’m looking for a good sounding horn that isn’t to expensive. What model would you recommend for going into a professional horn? And I also wanted to ask are you selling any of these euphoniums yourself? Keep up the good work
@thegingergamer476
@thegingergamer476 2 года назад
Anything to be honest mate, Euphonium players do what they want and make up their own tuning and sound so if recommend get a Boosey & Hawkes (round stamp) frosted instrument, it has excellent valves and almost never goes wrong
@yanbros
@yanbros 6 лет назад
It sounds fantastic! Is it hard to play? As in is there alot of back pressure or free blowing?
@veiledzorba
@veiledzorba Год назад
I thought NVA was the North Vietnamese Army!
@GioMusicProductions
@GioMusicProductions 6 лет назад
Since when ACME made instruments?
@adamschmidt546
@adamschmidt546 6 лет назад
Luis G. Ortiz since their stuff failed with the coyote 😂
@hartleymartin
@hartleymartin 5 лет назад
"ACME" was a branding Boosey & Co used for their export models. It appears that they mostly went to North America, but I have seen at least one example in Australia. I've done a light refurbishment on a 1911 Solbron example. The Acme branded ones often had a rising sun motif engraved.
@Jayme501
@Jayme501 6 лет назад
That is one damn cool cornet
@timothytikker1147
@timothytikker1147 5 лет назад
International Pitch in the 1920s could be a' = 435 Herz. Could the unmarked shank be for 440, and the "sharp" one for High Pitch (452 or so)?
@TuanBasikal
@TuanBasikal 4 года назад
My first cornet was a Boosey and Hawkes found in a kind of musical junk shop. I think I paid $25 for it in 1979. It was rather pretty, rose brass with some nickel plating. The valves were so worn that I used 3-in-1 oil in it instead of normal valve oil. Boy could I bend notes with that thing. I sold it after I got a better instrument. A few years ago, having not played cornet in about 30 years, and no longer owning one, I found a similar instrument in a charity shop, which, however, may be an India-made copy of the British original.
@TheKeithchinn
@TheKeithchinn Год назад
I have just picked up one of these!
@No_Name_Lucas
@No_Name_Lucas 3 года назад
I recently bought a Hawkes and Son Cornet off of EBay for a bargain and it is a beautiful instrument at 125 years old and nickel plate.
@Dizzyphan
@Dizzyphan 4 года назад
Another remedy of leaking valves is having the pistons nickel plated making them oversize then lapping them back in. Kanstul in Anaheim used to do that often. If I had a leaking Kanstul horn I had a choice of whether to plate the pistons or for the same price they'd just rebuild me new oversize pistons. Worked very well.
@hartleymartin
@hartleymartin 5 лет назад
You may find that the double water-key works better if you use a rather soft natural cork, not the typical synthetic cork you find these days. The softer natural cork will "bed-in" and form a better seal. It often works better if you keep the corks slightly moist or put some lanolin-based valve oil onto them. This ensures that they get a better seal. They actually work quite well, but they won't work if you try to use modern synthetic cork.
@TheCommentator353
@TheCommentator353 6 лет назад
I have a question but it might have been asked before. Trent, have you ever played any jazz music in bands or played any jazz ever in your career in brass instruments, or are you purely a marching band/classical player? Thanks
@xanderking1926
@xanderking1926 5 лет назад
HOLY SHIT ITS PIZZA TIME!!!!
@chickensnipz
@chickensnipz 4 года назад
One my family members handed down a Conn cornet. I’d been researching a few sites to find out more about this model and is good model to start with. The serial numbers is L21017
@Metal-Possum
@Metal-Possum 5 лет назад
I never used a pinky ring, I only rest my pinky on top of it. I was never taught or encouraged to use one, and was only ever told it was for conducting and playing at the same time, ie. playing one handed. Looking back, they are definitely there to be used, but they can be a cause for bad habits such as mashing the mouthpiece into your spinal cord trying to reach the high notes. No big loss that this doesn't have one I guess.
@charlesgajeway2861
@charlesgajeway2861 6 лет назад
Trent, apropos of absolutely nothing, you look amazingly like my cousin did at your age! He and I both played tuba, though I switched to trumpet when he moved up to high school. I like your videos, so keep up the good work.
@willemoosterom2438
@willemoosterom2438 6 месяцев назад
Good resonance!
@oldtimedrumcorps
@oldtimedrumcorps 5 лет назад
Seems to project to me although it may be the acoustics of a small room. Do you feel you had to work hard to get the volume of sound . ? Does the sounf get brittle or out of tune if you put in more air? How about a larger mouthpiece cup diameter .?
@mattwedd2511
@mattwedd2511 6 лет назад
Hi Trent. I woundered if you could possibly do a video on standard and reversed leadpipes on Trumpets. It would be nice to have an idea of what the differences are and the pros and cons of each.😊
@halzore7734
@halzore7734 6 лет назад
I play on a Silbron Eb Tuba and this video was awesome and I learned lots about my own instrument! Thankyou :)
@Thecornetmaster
@Thecornetmaster 6 лет назад
Do you happen to know Steven Burn? Hes a salvationist and you guys live around the same area
@artao5
@artao5 5 лет назад
So, you seem to know your shit pretty damn well. So I've got a question for you. I've tried to research this myself, with very little luck .... A friend, many years ago, gave me a trumpet that she said was her dad's. She doesn't play brass. I have no idea how old it is. It is a Bb/C trumpet (changeable first bend) that is silver in color, but as it doesn't tarnish, I'm guessing it's nickel plated, not silver. It is etched (pretty sure not stamped, it looks hand etched to my eye) "A. Csurcsia, Mannheim." Build quality seems pretty darn decent to me, tho it has some intonation problems (as most dual-key instruments do) It is a straight valve trumpet. I mention this because most of what I'm finding re: "A. Csurcsia" involves rotary valve horns. I've found "A. Csurcsia" as a manufacturer, but nothing actually ABOUT them. Have you got any info? Thanks.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 5 лет назад
Could you send me some photos, please?
@cameronreed8125
@cameronreed8125 6 лет назад
Lmao when i heard you play the cadenza from Napoli, i grinned.
@derpyfish281
@derpyfish281 6 лет назад
Hey trent, just a thought but could you play last post on ANZAC day
@pharmdiddy5120
@pharmdiddy5120 6 лет назад
I like just a little slide grease under cheap valve oil for my old stuff
@michaelshelley1289
@michaelshelley1289 6 лет назад
not sure what your "natural" instrument is but you play them all very well....
@brokenwrench1
@brokenwrench1 6 лет назад
some of the old horns had weights that fit in the valves and the extra springs are a different tension so the valve response can be changed from light to firm
@rspn
@rspn 6 лет назад
Trent you are a great musician you have a great sound keep up the great work.
@lividphysics1237
@lividphysics1237 5 лет назад
I'm disappointed in the one person who disliked this
@nathancarpenter8267
@nathancarpenter8267 6 лет назад
Those things are for throwing at saxophonists
@Thadva
@Thadva 6 лет назад
Can we get a flugabone review?
@beecebrashley1467
@beecebrashley1467 6 лет назад
Thanks Nick!
@skrame01
@skrame01 6 лет назад
13:07 yep he's a master
@knut7351
@knut7351 6 лет назад
First of all I want to say that I really like and appreciate the content on this channel, as well as stating that you are a good player Mark. But I want to comment your use of vibrato. Vibrato is a very important technique on a brass instrument, but I find your vibrato to be quite slow and a bit misused. It sounds a bit "jazzy" on songs that aren't really meant to be played like that. Players like Philip McCann use the vibrato to enlarge their sound, which is done by a much quicker, maybe subtler vibrato. But this is just a comment. Love your videos! Have a nice day.
@terryobrien9846
@terryobrien9846 6 лет назад
Best of luck changing those springs.
@tubapix
@tubapix 6 лет назад
Hi Trent. For REALLY bad valves I have used a product called 3n1 oil. It is thick but viscous and allows instruments with very poor valves to be evaluated. FWIW
@rogermwilcox
@rogermwilcox 6 лет назад
Is that the same 3-in-1 oil they sell in hardware stores?
@tubapix
@tubapix 6 лет назад
rogermwilcox Yes same stuff. People also use an ounce or 2 of lamp oil mixed with a drop or 2 or ? of mineral oil.
@andymayeuxproductions
@andymayeuxproductions 6 лет назад
Is this a reupload??
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 6 лет назад
No. But I did show this cornet on one of my live streams.
@andymayeuxproductions
@andymayeuxproductions 6 лет назад
Trent Hamilton oh okay, I just remember seeing the Y shaped water keys
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 6 лет назад
This isn't the first cornet that I've reviewed with that feature.
@sharkmanyt4431
@sharkmanyt4431 6 лет назад
6:46 I died of laughter. Did he even realize?
@Joseph-bb8dl
@Joseph-bb8dl 6 лет назад
I think he did
@sharkmanyt4431
@sharkmanyt4431 6 лет назад
Lol
@efgigamer1933
@efgigamer1933 6 лет назад
7th (good enough)
@pukalo
@pukalo 6 лет назад
I like cornets. They're better than trumpets.
@jonathanj.4800
@jonathanj.4800 6 лет назад
pukalo [CDN] I think each has its place.
@vroomoon
@vroomoon 6 лет назад
Considering your profile picture is with a bass clarinet... No. (Though they do have different uses)
@nicholastrombone9899
@nicholastrombone9899 6 лет назад
They sound different but both have uses
@aaronwhite02
@aaronwhite02 6 лет назад
pukalo [CDN] Nope
@FishingForLife28
@FishingForLife28 6 лет назад
I play both, depends on where and what im playing. But yes I prefer cornet for its soft and mellow tone
@mlgssj763
@mlgssj763 6 лет назад
I had my grade 4 exam earlier today and I sure I failed it I played utter nonsense. I had the wrong scales, messed up every time I played and failed the aural test.
@Simon-sm1wm
@Simon-sm1wm 6 лет назад
MLGSSJ atleast you didn't fail your drivers test twice this winter
@mlgssj763
@mlgssj763 6 лет назад
Simon yes but at least you probably don't live with a Mary Sue
@Simon-sm1wm
@Simon-sm1wm 6 лет назад
MLGSSJ No i don't, however my girlfriend is like that
@bradleyoldham6723
@bradleyoldham6723 6 лет назад
First
@hguantrombone
@hguantrombone 6 лет назад
Bradley Oldham I was first
@tubaboydany5020
@tubaboydany5020 6 лет назад
First
@hguantrombone
@hguantrombone 6 лет назад
First
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