Review of the 2022 Indian Chief Dark Horse and Chief Bobber

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*Torque figures I quoted are from the Chieftain line using the same engines. The actual torque specs of the Chief is a smidge lower. The 116 is actually 120Ft-Lb and the 111 is 109Ft-Lb vs the engines in the touring line at 126 and 119. I did not catch this until after the video was made.*
A back to back ride on Indian's newest platform. Yes it is long, but two bikes back to back make it worth it.
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Detailed Specs of the Indian Chief Dark Horse
Engine & Drivetrain
Bore x Stroke 4.063" x 4.449" (103.2mm x113mm)
Compression Ratio
11.0:1
Displacement
116 cu in (1,890 cc)
Drive/Driven
Clutch Wet, Multi-Plate
Electronic Fuel Injection System
Closed loop fuel injection / 54 mm bore
Engine Type
Thunderstroke 116
Exhaust
Dual Exhaust w/ Crossover
Gear Ratio (1st) 9.403 : 1
Gear Ratio (2nd) 6.411 : 1
Gear Ratio (3rd) 4.763 : 1
Gear Ratio (4th) 3.796 : 1
Gear Ratio (5th) 3.243 : 1
Gear Ratio (6th) 2.789 : 1
Peak Torque
120 ft-lbs (162 Nm)
Peak Torque RPM
2,900 RPM
Transmission/Final Drive
2.2 : 1
Transmission/Primary Drive
Gear Drive Wet Clutch
Dimensions
Fuel Capacity 4.0 gal (15.1 L)
Ground Clearance 4.9 in (125 mm)
GVWR 1,160 lb (522 kg)
Lean Angle 28.5°
Overall Height 49.3 in (1,253 cm)
Overall Length 90 in (2,286 mm)
Overall Width 36.3 in (922 mm)
Rake/Trail 29° / 5.2 in (131.5 mm)
Seat Height 26.0 in (662 mm)
Weight (Empty Tank / Full of Fuel)
647 lbs / 670 lbs (294 kg / 304 kg)
Wheelbase
64.0 in (1,626 mm)
Brakes
Front Brakes
Single / 300mm Semi-Floating Rotor / 4 Piston Caliper
Rear Brakes
Single / 300mm Floating Rotor / 2 Piston Caliper
Tires / Wheels
Front Tires
Pirelli® Night Dragon 130/60B19 61H
Front Wheel
Machine Highlighted Cast Black 19 in x 3.5 in
Rear Tires
Pirelli® Night Dragon 180/65 B16 81H
Rear Wheel
Machine Highlighted Cast Black 16 in x 5 in
Suspension
Front Fork Tube Diameter 46 mm
Front Suspension Telescopic Fork
Front Travel 5.2 in (132 mm)
Rear Suspension Dual Shocks w/adjustable preload
Rear Travel 3.0 in (75 mm)
Detailed Specs of the Chief Bobber
Engine & Drivetrain
Bore x Stroke
3.976 in x 4.449 in (101 mm x 113 mm)
Compression Ratio
9.5:1
Displacement
111 cu in (1,811 cc)
Drive/Driven
Clutch Wet, Multi-Plate
Electronic Fuel Injection System
Closed loop fuel injection / 54 mm bore
Engine Type
Thunderstroke 111
Exhaust
Dual Exhaust w/ Crossover
Gear Ratio (1st) 9.403 : 1
Gear Ratio (2nd) 6.411 : 1
Gear Ratio (3rd) 4.763 : 1
Gear Ratio (4th) 3.796 : 1
Gear Ratio (5th) 3.243 : 1
Gear Ratio (6th) 2.789 : 1
Peak Torque
108 ft-lbs (146 Nm)
Peak Torque
RPM 3,200 rpm
Transmission/Final Drive
2.2 : 1
Transmission/Primary Drive
Gear Drive Wet Clutch
Dimensions
Fuel Capacity 4.0 gal (15.1 L)
Ground Clearance 4.9 in (125 mm)
GVWR 1,160 lb (522 kg)
Lean Angle 28.5°
Overall Height 53.1 in (1,349 mm)
Overall Length 90 in (2,286 mm)
Overall Width 36 in (915 mm)
Rake/Trail 29° / 5.2 in (131.5 mm)
Seat Height 26.0 in (662 mm)
Weight (Empty Tank / Full of Fuel)
670 lbs / 694 lbs (304 kg / 315 kg)
Wheelbase 64.0 in (1,626 mm)
Brakes
Front Brakes
Single / 300mm Semi-Floating Rotor / 4 Piston Caliper
Rear Brakes
Single / 300mm Floating Rotor / 2 Piston Caliper
Tires / Wheels
Front Tires
Pirelli® Night Dragon 130/90B16 67H
Front Wheel
Wire Spoke 16 in x 3 in
Rear Tires
Pirelli® Night Dragon 180/65 B16 81H
Rear Wheel
Wire Spoke 16 in x 5 in
Suspension
Front Fork Tube Diameter 46 mm
Front Suspension Telescopic Fork
Front Travel 5.2 in (132 mm)
Rear Suspension Dual Shocks w/adjustable preload
Rear Travel 3.0 in (75 mm)

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@keystonebbq6255 3 года назад

Indian is gonna start running away from Harley, I feel they already have been, I've owned a bunch of Harleys but these new Indians are really sweet, the technology, the price, it's all great

@jayteesgear 2 года назад

Harley kills itself more every day

@jamessouthworth1699 2 года назад

As a Harley Rider I can't help but agree with you, especially when you're comparing it to the brand new Harleys that have been coming out.

@badchad911 2 года назад

Harley and their Transport Mode. What a joke i mean battery killer.

@johnhart2861 Год назад

Switched from HD to Indian in 2020. Love this bike and haven’t had to dump $Ks and $Ks into it

@mithrandirthegrey7644 2 месяца назад

Even the names are cooler than Harley! “Dark Horse” is an awesome name. That’s exactly what I think of motorcycles - steel horses that breathe fire.

@shooter-vx7xy 3 года назад

They look good. I think Indian knocked it out of the park.

@scottiescott9297 3 года назад

🎯

@scottiescott9297 3 года назад

100% Agreed. I'm looking forward to test-riding this potential future purchase. The 4G tank is a little disappointing, but it's definitely not a deal-breaker for me. I really like this cruiser.

@rhysgiles1620 3 года назад

Great review. Personally as a Victory owner its great to see the Indian brand FINALLY implement some of the Victory styling into their range. Looks like the Victory Gunner. Its the first time I'd consider purchasing an Indian. The styling is competing more with the HD Softail Slim and Street Bob without the usual Indian "bells and tassels" look they usually go for. Great job Indian keep making bikes like this one.

@djmadwax Год назад

Yes it’s the gunner

@davidbeauchamp9663 3 года назад

This was a great review. I like the fact that you touched on the suspension and the single disc braking. Really like the dark horse. Great job on the review.

@dylanw890 3 года назад

Is it me or does anyone else have a strange lust for this bike? 😂 Since the refresh, I can’t stop looking at it…

@NinjaCat91 3 года назад

Its so sexy😭😭

@MrJuan4225 3 года назад

This review spent a good amount of time showing off the new speedometer display. I appreciate it.

@mikep760 3 года назад

Can't wait to take one out on a test ride. Thanks for your reviews.

@hawk8966 2 года назад

Thank you for a fantastic review of such a beautiful motorcycle.

@axelpteeg 3 года назад

Aside from the huge pipes sticking out of the back end . Gorgeous bike . On board software pretty cool too.

@DMVSoloRider 3 года назад

Great video! I was able to touch a pre-production Chief at my dealer. I could sit on it. I could play around with the 4” Ride Command. They laughed when I asked if I could ride it! 😂 I’m so jealous! 👍

@johnnydangerously7186 3 года назад

Good in depth review. I like dealing with Okc Indian and the owner Scott. I was very happy to see Indian stayed with the Thunderstroke Engine for this model instead of going with the PP108.

@turtle19dad 2 года назад

Ok. I love the weather screen. Cool. Helps on those possible bad weather rides.

@hubka6956 3 года назад

Thank you for this very complete test drive. What a f..... bike. I am waiting it ! We receive it in France in 30 days so let's test it first. I am 6 feet tall so let's see for the mid or foward foot control to be comfortable. And for the windshield the 17.8 inch or the 23.8 inch to be well protected.... Have a nice day. Hello from France.

@VikingBagsYT 3 года назад

Great video! Loved the review! Keep up the great content!

@slim56 3 года назад

I can just see the 116 with some Lloyd’s 585 cams, nice exhaust and dyno tune😊

@scottiescott9297 3 года назад

Until this video, I was seriously dead-set on buying a StreetBob (3.5 G tank 😞), ST Slim or a Sportglide. Now... sheesh, I really have to look at the Chief Darkhorse; for realsies. The looks, the torque, the tech... wow!!! The only con for me is the 4G tank, which should’ve been 5 but it’s not a dealbreaker- at all. That Chief Darkhorse is a future purchase.

@dirkpackwood6409 3 года назад

I felt the same way, 3.5tank on the street bob killed it for me. I decided to wait a bit longer and save for the low rider S. There also might be a cost effective upgrade for the StBob down the road.

@anthonyr587 3 года назад

@@dirkpackwood6409 Did you get a Low Rider S? I am weighing up that or the Dark horse, cant decide.

@SlorideI20 3 года назад

Great review brother. Very well done.

@grominwithrob1339 Год назад

That bike is ridiculously Beautiful. Couple mods to personalize it and you have a pure object of beauty.

@jayteesgear 2 года назад

Beautiful bike. Gorgeous downtown there in OK too

@Ihateliberals901 3 года назад

Damn dude, I'm waking up at 3 am just to study biology and you are uploading spicy content too early.

@allanrogerson4585 3 года назад

I think the bars denote where on the bike lies the c of G taking into account the riders weight and how it is displaced.

@satudave 3 года назад

Once again you did an awesome job with the reviews. 👍👍

@tacosan9256 Год назад

Awesome review- there is not as much on the 111 bobber, everything is on the dark horse variant- I have a 2023 Chief bobber 111, black metallic. I love the bike. I came from a scout 60. The power is more than adequate and it gets up and goes very stealthy. I’m at 60mph without any effort. The scout was more visceral but the Chief is so much more. I love the stock sound even too- it’s subdued in the neighborhood and the sound comes alive at the time I like. Only upgrade is a performance air intake filter, the bike is perfect from the factory and I plan on riding it everywhere- I never thought I’d own an 1811cc bike like the bobber- Indian knocked it out in my opinion.

@sasca854 3 года назад

This review convinced me to get a Chief Dark Horse. Put down my deposit today.

@goingfatherhood2420 3 года назад

This bike is definitely on my top list, I’ll be getting a bobber though. Just cause It’ll be my first bike and not sure if I’d be able to handle all that power yet.

@sasca854 3 года назад

@@goingfatherhood2420 I've had mine for a couple weeks now (I ended up getting one almost immediately after I left my original comment because the guy who originally ordered it backed out, so I got dibs). The cool thing about this bike that you just don't get with the Harleys is that you have ride modes. While the power delivery in Sport mode is very aggressive, it's very manageable in Standard mode and downright docile in Touring mode. I wouldn't worry about the power because Indian gives you the tools to tailor it to your experience level and/or riding preferences.

@bikesandchikn 3 года назад

@@sasca854 Just put my down deposit yesterday, I wasn't able to test ride or even see a dark horse as my dealer said they weren't getting any for long enough to hold on the showroom. All I was able to see was a super chief (non dark horse). What are some things you would say are important to note? Also, what kind of mods are you looking forward to now that you're used to the bike and its power delivery? What's it lacking? I ordered the chief dark horse and thinking of doing the rogue upgrade which includes a stage 2 kit, air intake, and exhaust

@sasca854 3 года назад

@@bikesandchikn I'm actually planning to sell mine now and get a Harley. I wanted to get stage 1 done (pipes and heavy breather air cleaner) and long story short, the Indian dealer and Indian corporate tag teamed their way into convincing me they had no idea what they are doing. What they promised me was a 2-hour in and out job turned out to my bike being in the shop for a week before I finally managed to get them to get the bike back to stock so I could take I home (it's my main mode of transportation right now). They were never able to complete the job because they couldn't figure out how to flash the stage 1 tune, and Indian corporate's engineers were totally incompetent at getting it figured out (they never did). Nobody seemed to be in a rush to get it figured out despite my repeated pleas to get it done quickly because, as I mentioned, it's my main form of transportation. Almost no third party companies make anything for Indian and even fewer make anything for the '22 chiefs yet. Indian has barely been able to roll out even first party accessories. I wanted to get mini apes and they're backordered until August. Long story short, I'm just going to get a Harley because they seem to have their shit together.

@bikesandchikn 3 года назад

@@sasca854 I decided to go back to Harley too after just riding the base chief and realizing that there would be little to be done about adding power with limited aftermarket parts, like you mentioned. Luckily, I had no issues getting my money back. Thanks for the update and ride safe man!

@bertsbike 2 года назад

Great review man! I’ll probably end up with the 111 with mids and the standard bar.

@yoshit9819 3 года назад

Rode the Darkhorse yesterday. They nailed it.

@remingtonsiefkas2458 3 года назад

I'm thinking bout the springfield dark horse

@yoshit9819 3 года назад

@@remingtonsiefkas2458 me too. But I'm gonna have a hard time parting with my Springfield

@larryweaver2008 3 года назад

Is it just me, or does Hedgehog sound like Wayne from Letterkenny? Haha! Nice vid. Beautiful bike!

@usmcmsgt5487 2 года назад

I want this in the drag bars, stage 2 intake with my own aftermarket exhaust and with a passenger seat….. hopefully by April….

@automandan 3 года назад

That bike looks epic

@StateOfMind63 3 года назад

Nice looking bike. WIsh it had duel disk brakes up front though. Would be interested it comparing it to my 2018 Fat Bob 114.

@scottmitchell3856 3 года назад

Have a chief dark horse on reserve can't wait thinking about adding the rouge package with it

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Lucky man! I don't know which kidney to sell to get one that's where I am.

@mattozburn3259 3 года назад

Chief bars and Lloyds 121 inch kit for 111. And mid controls. Then D&D pipes, when they come out. This setup would fit me . 5'4" 28 inch inseam. Will have mine in 3 months.

@jdisgood00 3 года назад

Agree. My RC died within a year

@Dertysoul 3 года назад

Been waiting on you with this!!!!!!!

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Well someone had to help pull some strings lol.

@Dertysoul 3 года назад

Love that dealership, will buy my next bike no place else!!!!

@Lonewolf23-26 3 года назад

My only gripe I guess is how quiet they are stock my scout sounded like a vacuum cleaner until I put some slip on, doing my best to talk myself out of one of these but so far that’s all I’ve got! Pretty sure Indian or a nice aftermarket option will fix it quick too

@nelsonbolduc7751 2 года назад

Thank you for the review you helped me between harley or the the indians im gona go indians and try the bark hosre 116 i will receive mine in august :)

@brianminkc Год назад

That Dark Horse is very nice.

@joedunne9492 3 года назад

Great review! Need one next to my Chieftain! Just can’t decide which one! Do I need all the power and technology or just the base model? Leaning to not spend the extra 3-4 grand go with base!

@Wolfenit415 3 года назад

Geez lucky you

@Aaron-kw2kq 3 года назад

Well done, another better review than other motovloggers

@mechcavandy986 3 года назад

I’ve owned two Indians - a Vintage and a Chieftain. I ride a Street Bob now. Maybe a trade is in the future.

@MoneyShotSolo 3 года назад

Just today wondered where you were...getting a bit nervous about Google. I'll be back in town early June, breakfast at Cattlemen's and ride on a 2016 Ducati Pikes Peak if you're into the idea is on the table.

@MatthewAugustine 3 года назад

I am looking at getting the dark horse with the reduced reach bars (like on the scout), and forward controls direct from Indian.

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Nice!

@steveh7108 3 года назад

After watching your video and one other actual riding review, I'm convinced that this is an absolute must demo ride to consider for my next purchase. I have been a long time Harley hater and now I find myself a little bit worried for Harley and their future. Even though Harley finally has something fresh releasing soon ( Pan American) it feels like they are still just lost when it comes to a connection with the consumer. Indian teases just enough and then gets a bike out there for reviews and Hands-On demos before you can lose interest. And then before you know it they are teasing you with something else new. The Scout bobber, new touch-screen, FTR, Challenger and now the new chief. It's like I have a backlog of things at Indian I want to test ride and take a closer look at. Indian is just killing it.👍

@IndianMC-jf3cp 3 года назад

Polaris did the same thing with Victory. Its a good formula. And Harley should be feeling the heat.

@alexnevarez1554 Год назад

Hey Heg, I enjoyed your review. A lot of enthusiasm was put into it . I’m looking to buy the chief dark horse, would you recommend it for a new rider??

@ryant5652 3 года назад

Love that shop

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

We do as well!

@My101092 3 года назад

Hey Look a Victory Vegas with a Thunder stroke Chief engine. Polaris is make Indian look more & more like the privious Victory Vegas / Judge look.

@me-xz2xn 3 года назад

Thats a great thing

@mariuss.6607 3 года назад

I thought it looked more like the gunner

@gunken8870 2 года назад

was für ein geiles Bike!

@desmiller4764 3 года назад

Thanks for the great vlogs. I’m thinking of getting a chief but curious how you would have liked the super chief with the low bars forward pegs and floorboards. Having never owned a cruiser in very interested in this bike. Will you get the chance to review the superchief ? Soon . We dont have the chance to do any riding here in 🇬🇧 uk at the moment still in lockdown until May. Great fan of your reviews 👍🏿🇬🇧

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

The regular release of the machines are going to be around April from what we are being told. So I am hoping to get on one of the those around then, but of course if the initial stock are pre-ordered it might take a moment. I had a bike similar in setup in the Triumph America and I enjoyed that position and comfort.

@travelinman482 3 года назад

@@RabidHedgehog That was a bit rude and dangerous of you to ride right next to that employee by the garage door. And are they ever going to paint that rusted out rail bridge on I-235?

@1satisfiedmind 3 года назад

YES!

@Spriterom 3 года назад

Very nice bikes. I really like the bobber. The looks are growing on me but I still prefer the look of the street bob from HD. Not trying to sound like a Harley fan just what it is. They look like nice bikes. Glad that you had a chance to take them out, man!

@dirkpackwood6409 3 года назад

Problem with the Street Bob is the 3.5g Tank. Once you modify the exhaust, air intake you will be filling up every 90mile’s which sucks in a big way. Or spend 4K to upgrade to a bigger tank. Then might as well get the Lowrider S

@Spriterom 3 года назад

@@dirkpackwood6409 yeah it's a good point but the tank looks sooo good :-) I currently own a sportster 883 and I fill up every 100 miles or so which is annoying sometimes.

@albertosotelo9969 Год назад

I wanted the scout... but maaaaan!!!! this review made me aim much higher, there's a dealership in my hometown (SLP, Mexico), I don't know how I am gonna pay for it, but man it is a beauty.

@RabidHedgehog Год назад

It's a hard choice, but the Scout is a good one!

@JoNiOkk66 2 года назад

Absolutely love my '21 Scout Sixty, but man, might have to consider trading up to that Chief Dark Horse. Gorgeous! Funny how the Scout Bobber has low bars and mid controls, and the Chief Bobber has mini apes and forward controls?

@antoniocanes2221 Год назад

well, that's exactly what i did last friday lol

@Penstarkid08 Год назад

Would you have preferred the forward foot controls after riding this bike?

@TheRampage20 3 года назад

Great video....I had a question....for a newer rider...would you recommend this bike over say the Vintage? I love the Vintage Dark Horse but I'm curious as to your opinion. Thank you.

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

They would both work nicely. Vintage being a bit heavier and wider. But both are low seats and easily flat footed by most riders. If you have your endorsement ride both and see which you prefer.

@gomer52 Год назад

Easy bike to ride. I took demo ride and this is a bike you become one with. Handle like lighter bike.

@zakkor50 3 года назад

U mentioned the Chief bobber with traditional gage has TPMS, how about other models that have the electronic one? Please confirm if all models have TPMS

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Not 100% sure with the software that was in the bikes as they were in "engineering demo" mode. Looking at the gauge clusters give us hints it should be there, or for some reason it was outfitted to the Bobber for testing or something and might be added to future vehicles. These were very early models.

@steveh7108 3 года назад

It looks to me like if you tilt those mini apes a little bit further back it would be about perfect for you and most of us.

@locoocho2415 3 года назад

Totally awesome bikes and review. Dark Horse whats the mpg, 4.0 tank.

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

If it is like other Thunderstrokes in its class looking at 42-46 MPG.

@locoocho2415 3 года назад

I'm surprise this bike doesn't have a 5 gal tank. (Chief Dark Horse)

@Skuglyft 3 года назад

I went to the dealer yesterday and checked out the bobber. Looks awesome but I hate forwards and do think the standard DH looks better especially in Stealth Gray. Can't decide between that or the Street Bob 114 though. Damn.

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Ride them back to back. I did a ride on the Street Bob 114, that video is not posted due to A) a train that stopped our ride so long that batteries could not make it and B) I was not a fan of the hip cramp from sitting on it for 45 minutes and the hate was pouring out like my Bolt video. But not everyone is shaped like me. So if it fits it would be worth the comparison for what is right for you.

@Skuglyft 3 года назад

@@RabidHedgehog Will do for sure. But the more I think about it Indian seem like the better choice. I'm not a big fan of the graphics on the Street Bob 114, would love a plain simple colour. Also my Indian dealer is only 20 mins away compared to H-D which is 2hrs or so.

@DrDiff952 3 года назад

I wish that they had not used the bobber fenders on the Chief and Chief Limited

@kyrptonic420 3 года назад

I wonder if I can take that screen and replace my 2020 Springfield dark horse gauge with it

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

I do not see why this will not trickle to other models in the future. It's such a unique idea that it will probably find its way over there and maybe into the aftermarket.

@vernegibb621 3 года назад

That bike was made to go against the H.D. low rider S.

@BlackbirdSSR 3 года назад

Patiently waiting for a head-to-head article or video between the Chief DH vs. Lowrider S

@anthonyr587 3 года назад

Yep, I am trying to decide between the both. Need a head to head.

@vernegibb621 3 года назад

@@anthonyr587 lr has duel disc brakes and inverted forks for the money. But i would not kick eather one out of my garage.

@anthonyr587 3 года назад

@@vernegibb621 Thats what I am thinking, how the HELL did they not put duel disc brakes on this? Just seems such a sloppy decision.

@MotoTvWoodsFarm Год назад

Nice 👍👍

@BryanGilig 19 дней назад

Very nice ingine long drive test black horse bobber

@rantANDrave1987 3 года назад

Keep up with traffic man got damn

@timohansson3674 3 года назад

How is the suspension compared to the Chieftain?

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

The suspension is dead on between the Scout and Chieftain. It is not as plush a ride as its bigger stablemate, but the setup is miles ahead of the Scout on this one.

@joelw2409 3 года назад

How did the power of the 111 feel vs the scout ? People the ride the scout compare it to the vrod and you say the 111 is easy going compared to the dark horse

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

The 111 is like the cruising plant for this machine as it's more tame. I'd say it hits like the Scout as the torque numbers make up for the weight numbers. Where as that 116 is wow. Lol

@billyawesome8008 3 года назад

Which do you think is worth buying more the regular chief or the dark horse chief

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

The original Chief line was the same frame as the current touring bikes basically. I have no issues with the older Chief line, but they were discontinued last year and essentially the Vintage Dark Horse took over there allowing this frame to come into play. I think they are still good motorcycles, but this one is like Pontiac sticking a V8 into a Le Mans all over again. It's a lot more fun.

@billyawesome8008 3 года назад

@@RabidHedgehog thanks

@CraigSmith568 3 года назад

I like the larger engine with the mid controls and cast wheels, but I prefer the mini-apes and the speedometer of the bobber. The first gauge looked hard to see at times. It may have just been the camera making it seem that way. The cruise control should be mounted on the left side so you aren't trying to turn it on with the same hand that you are using to control your speed. Not a major issue, but I just think it would be better. For me personally I would have no use for the different modes, the GPS, or connecting with my phone. As far as seats go I have never seen a good seat from the factory, so it is just a given that it would be replaced. I would also replace the exhaust with something that didn't stick out so far. The length of the pipes just looks odd.

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

That was a camera issue. The gauge was perfectly readable at all times.

@CraigSmith568 3 года назад

Thanks, I figured it was. Not big on Indians, but these are nice looking bikes.

@jasonyoung7873 3 года назад

In your opinion would this be a good bike for a beginner. I'm 6 1 and close to 400.

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

It'll work especially with the 111

@jasonyoung7873 3 года назад

Thanks

@Limatola11 2 года назад

New to looking up bikes, but would you be able to add a backseat to the chief dark horse ?

@RabidHedgehog 2 года назад

Yes! Chief models of this era use the same platform as the touring machines like Chieftains and such so much of the seats cross over.

@Limatola11 2 года назад

@@RabidHedgehog awesome man thank you so much for the reply! Will sub 👍🏼

@hilarysilvertnewell9210 Год назад

Yes, BUT you have to choose between the stock seat plus a pillion, or a comfort solo seat. The pillion won't fit behind the upgraded seat.

@Limatola11 Год назад

@@hilarysilvertnewell9210 ok cool thanks for the info!

@dasani383 3 года назад

Love the bike but what about the price I’m not sure many people are going to spend $17000usd or $20000cad for the Indian chief dark horse

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

They do have a lower end 14499USD version as well. So it's got a range.

@BigJMart1n 3 года назад

Out of the 2 you rode, which one did you like better on the highway?

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

The Bobber. The position is superior for long haul due to the forward mounted controls.

@BigJMart1n 3 года назад

@@RabidHedgehog that's the bike I'm leaning towards thanks for the info, I appreciate it!

@c-zen890 3 года назад

@@RabidHedgehog didn't you say the handlebars for the Bobber we're making you slide off your seat? (or was that someone else 🤔). I'm definitely considering one of these. But I don't wanna test ride them in a group line.

@BlackbirdSSR 3 года назад

Was able to see and sit on the 2022 Chief Dark Horse yesterday, it looks and feels about the same size as a Scout Bobber. It's so dang cool, but not enough to tempt me to trade my Scout Bobber for.

@cherylmoller4766 3 года назад

Wwdeeeee

@shinobi_ryder 3 года назад

What are the service intervals like on these bikes?

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Not released yet. But if they match their engine family it's 5000 miles. First service at like 500. But it's like major interval, oil change, major interval is how it rotates.

@shinobi_ryder 3 года назад

@@RabidHedgehog that's pretty reasonable not bad. Hopefully they have better reliability than harleys

@Skuglyft 3 года назад

@@shinobi_ryder 80 miles first service, then a mid service at 400m. The it's every 800m or 12 months whatever hits first. European metric that is 😅

@mandizzle0517 3 года назад

Awesome motor, I prefer the older one with the full fenders

@1luiluilui Год назад

Which handlebars do you prefer?

@RabidHedgehog Год назад

I like more of a low standard almost beach bar style.

@KeystoneTexan Год назад

How do those Indian motors compare to the Victory 106’s

@RabidHedgehog Год назад

To me they have better response especially in the low ranges of the rev band and are smoother. Fueling is better and power delivery is also more linear.

@KeystoneTexan Год назад

@@RabidHedgehog those 106’s are real hot rods and put a smile on your face. Maybe I’ll consider one? Thanks for replying back to me.

@aaronmorgan519 3 года назад

Belt or shaft drive?

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Belt

@bikerbeliever8169 3 года назад

Long time no see

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Been so busy.

@nikhilsinha7730 3 года назад

Would this make a good first bike?

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Stick it in rain mode, get used to the power, check the weight and how it feels and it should be good to go.

@nikhilsinha7730 3 года назад

@@RabidHedgehog wow. Thank you

@_S.E.J_ 3 года назад

Bobber doesn’t have touch/nav screen ?

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Dark horse models do and it was just a Bobber standard.

@detonator2x 3 года назад

Went Saturday and the roads were too wet for us to demo anything.

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Well that is a shame. I know that they try to get a second truck in later in the year as well so hopefully there is another shot.

@badgerostripey-one6734 3 года назад

Is this a bike for careful beginners?

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Yes. 111 more so

@btte854 3 года назад

Nice bike but there something wrong with the headlight, it's way too small and make the bike look like people will not be interested especially for a price tag close to 20k, a bigger headlight will make it a nicer bike worth the price.

@alanjoseph772 3 года назад

Does the truck come free with the bike?

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Sadly no

@nrliddle595 3 года назад

Frame looks strangely like a Victory steel frame.

@BlackbirdSSR 3 года назад

It's not "strange", Victory is in their DNA

@nrliddle595 3 года назад

@@BlackbirdSSR I know chad, just a little sour grapes. I'm a Victory owner and would like to see the name come back.

@BlackbirdSSR 3 года назад

@@nrliddle595 I get it, but Im glad to see Victory influence in the Indian line.

@rhysgiles1620 3 года назад

@nrliddle couldn't agree with you more. I own a 2016 Vegas 8 Ball, will not part with it for any money. Victory made their bikes look like how people wanted to customize their Harleys to look like stock. Criminal Polaris axed the brand would love to see it come back. However I'm convinced Victories will be come modern classics.

@christopherpaige406 3 года назад

Get rid of the digital crap, stick with analog with a key, junk cylinder deactivation, and liquid cool the thunderstroke... Game changer!

@DrDiff952 3 года назад

I wish that they had put the Challenger motor in the Chief!

@vernegibb621 3 года назад

He says it gets up to speed while cars keep passing him. Come on man open that thing up.

@MoneyShotSolo 3 года назад

Not sure you understand OKC driving norms, lotta traffic pushing triple digits where he's at. Just sayin'.

@garygullikson6349 3 года назад

Indian should continue to sell one model with skirted fenders, but less fairings and overall bulkiness.

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

They do, it's the Vintage and Vintage dark horse

@garygullikson6349 3 года назад

@@RabidHedgehog No, you are looking at 2021 models.

@djmadwax Год назад

This will never be a chief dark horse to me lol

@bikerbeliever8169 3 года назад

It looks like a better version of the harley 114 breakout

@dirkpackwood6409 3 года назад

I hear you, but if you compare it to the Lowrider S, 5 gal tank, dual Disc brakes in the front. Option to upgrade to the SS 131.....

@serbanlucian419 3 года назад

@@dirkpackwood6409 ...and oil cooler!😁

@JC-oc7um 2 года назад

Polaris makes a good motorcycle and snowmobile. Indian closed their doors in the fifties.

@gerardmontgomery280 3 года назад

I love the standard but the bobber just seems lazy. It's got the same tail as the standard bike but with bigger and heavier tyres. A bobjob that weight more than the base bike sits wrong with me.

@frednouvertne4216 2 года назад

No comparison to the Night Rod Special 2016.

@tommybrown4191 2 года назад

Just my opinion but Indians are supposed to have the big sweeping fenders, I don't like these new designs with small fenders. I'm glad to see that there are still at least a few big fender designs in the 2022 lineup but if they ever stop making the big fender bikes then I'll be very disappointed.

@Kolbjorn24 3 года назад

Was not very fond with Indians and there super low look. I like the tank being higher up with the bars. Like the HDs, definitely don’t think Harley-Davidson are the best cruisers around but they nail the look, this Indian is a step in the right direction to me

@750rocketman5 3 года назад

Eh you can raise them up, thats kinda my draw back too coming from sport bikes but I figure some longer shocks should give more clearance

@vincenthamilton9042 Год назад

Ill be buying this bike as soon as I can might have to get rid of my gf😅 she cost alot!

@Axl_colts 3 года назад

Nice bike but if Indian really wanted to compete with Harley they should have priced thier bikes better.

@mechcavandy986 3 года назад

I got a ticket for $150 for only putting 1 foot down at a stop sign in Sturgis. They call that, not coming to a complete stop! 🤬😡

@smy5607 3 года назад

That cop must hate bikers 😂😂😂

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Yeah that's communist level

@djmysticalone321 3 года назад

I love how they copy Harley Davison

@97irishflyer 3 года назад

First Indian V-twin--1906. Harley--1909.

@RabidHedgehog 3 года назад

Indian comes back out in 2013 as 2014 model years. All touring bikes come out with monoshock design, stressed member engines, and aluminum frames. Harley in 2018 finally goes monoshock on cruisers and ends the Dyna. Indian comes back with steel for the first time, and dual exposed shock design ala Dyna, only instead of standing up they are lade down into line with the seat line.... Soooo no?