I have wanted a 22/410 over under for a long time. After seeing this, I bought the .22 and 44 magnum 7" rifled adapters. I have a stevens side by side 12ga I paid $90 for. Now instead of having to buy another gun, I can use one I already have. I may not have the storage options in the gun..... but I have pockets! LOL It might be more heavy than the single shot, but I like being old school.
Dave, you've made me rethink my adaptability weapon selections... i will be building this system soon. It Solves many of my issues, (into one firearm no less) and I was not aware of the shotgun adapters prior to your vids. Thanks Dave
I am really diggin the current set of vedios from Dave. I enjoy the primitive camping/lifestyle type kit -vs- the tactical/survival stuff that we see most often. Pkease do more.
Love the stock!! First thing I would store in it is gun related stuff. Springs, firing pins, tools etc. If this weapon is to be a survival weapon when times get hard, it would be nice to have the things to repair the gun if needed and getting the parts now is easy.
Like the music over the titles. When I first saw one of your videos I sat and watched the man stalk through woods, kneel, take aim, and then "pop"; it was a bit of anti-climax. The "gun noise" never did the build up justice. But the music is super.
I had that same stock set on my H&R 20 gauge. Recently I pulled the stock off the shotgun and put it on my H&R .22 sportster rifle. The stock worked great on the rifle provides more utility for me. The stock is awesome.
You my friend are a great man and one of the hardest working men on the internet. Thank you for sharing your knowledge to help everyone that will watch and listen. Can't wait for Dual Survival to come back on. Keep the incredible videos coming.
That is a "must have" weapon systems. That kind of flexibility would be perfect for survival, much more so than a 12ga alone. Thanks for all you do Dave.
Shotgun wise we have a mossberg 870 pump and a winchester 1953 410A youth model. They both work great. The 410 is amazing it is light it breaks down so it is easy to pack in a bug out bag and works great for small game.
The H & R Survivor stock has a 3 1/2 x 7 x 1 inch storage compartment that lets you store ammunition or survival gear. The butt pad has a thumb screw that lets you swivel the pad to the side for easy access to the storage. Our Store-Arm fore end sold separately has two storage compartments one 1 x 1 1/2 x 5 1/2 inches and one 1 x 1 1/2 x 3 inches. It has a thumb screw that lets you remove the fore end to get to the storage and allows for quick dis-assembly of the gun. $36.75
Try any local gun shows, flea markets, or pawn shops. I don't know where you are located, but here in TN those guns are very easy to find in the places I just mentioned. It doesn't take much to get a gun here in TN.
Thanks for all you do Dave. I appreciate all you do for us. I can't wait until the fall gathering. Our family missed this last time because of my wife's surgery. Love you guys and you and your family is always in our prayers. CURRAHEE!
I live in Australia. I love your videos and find it very interesting the firearm videos. I am amazed the prices for the gun and add ons are so low but. Would have thought the gun cost would of had to be $500-1000 cost, crazy. Such different worlds we live in. Im attempting to make a bow self reliant type of set up.
Dave, I was in the process of buying a beater shotgun to carry in my truck. Due to this video, I'm gonna make sure I get my moneys worth and buy a shotgun that I can use this choate stock system to contain a survival kit, ammo & first aid set up in the weapon. Thank You!
I recently became the owner of a H&R survivor in .308 Winchester, it came with the survivor stock but chose to remove it for a youth conventional. My thinking is to get the 12 gauge barrel with a glow sight (take both barrels to be machined to 18.5 / 20 inches to fit in my pack) and have a handy rifle for both hunting all the game in my area and protection in an urban environment WROL setting. The adapters are another component to the kit aswell.
Mr. Canterbury. Thank you Sir, very much, for your hard work, informative videos and information presented on this weapon (H&R 12g B/Action Shotgun). Your presentation helped me decide on this weapon, and the caliber-reducing converters kit(s). Again, thank you Sir. Oscar
hey man! i don't know if you are going to see this but i'll write anyway! THANK YOU, why? bacause you sir, have saved my life. without you hunting tips in Dual survival i would SERIOUSLY be dead now. i live in sweden (you can tell from the crappy English), and me and one of my friends where up in the mountains, and my friend tripped on something and broke his leg just about an inch above the kneepad, no phones, no nothing, but the knowledge i got from you! im not kidding you, you are a hero.
I am wondering if those adapters would fit the Rossi single shot 12 Guage? I am presuming since you said any 3 inch chamber, they would. Fantastic idea. Thanks.
Dave , I remember you on Dual Survival, loved that show, commen sense information for Survival in many different environments . I have a H&R 20 guage and a Handi Rifle in 45-70. Im going to turn that 20 guage into a Survival machine like you did
Dave I've been watching your videos for awhile now and this is the first time i've seen this. My shotgun is my go to gun because it breaks down into my pack and its just a good gun but it's beat up. im gonna look into that stalk setup. Thank you
I have a lot of spinal damage and can only carry so much, about 20 to 30 pounds maximum and only have one arm available (I have to use a walking stick). My current rifle is about 8 or 9 pounds. Then a water bottle, panic beacon (wife, daughters, and son-in-laws won't let me go out without it), trail mix, a clip of ammo, and my heavy coat. I like the idea of the hollow stock because it'll allow me to put everything in one place (except the water bottle) and it'll stay dry.
I guess you learn something everyday. I didn't know they had adapters that allowed shooter to fire different calibers from the same weapon. Thank you for the video.
Thanx Dave for a great review on a survival shotgun, I too think it's the best way to go, but for me, sometime with all that we carry, it is a bit bulky, but I still consider it to be the best survival protection, and to get meat for the table, but when we go out, it's more for survival protection, and not hunting, for the longest time, where I go, I compromised size, for convenience, so I carried my Super Comanche Single Shot Pistol, I carry it in a 30 cal. M-1 carbine canvas military sheath, that fits it like a glove, it's a .410, and a .45LC pistol, its the 10" S.S. barrel, I find I can shoot both the .410, and the .45LC's out of the shotgun choke, and sometimes I get lucky, and nailed a Grouse, with the help of Brandy, the German Shorthair, but believe me, I think it was more luck, because the bird was still alive, but down, what's your take on doing what I did to substitute for a full size shotgun, I watch most all of your videos, and highly regard your opinion.
I had a "Snakecharmer" .410 shotgun that looks exactly like that shotgun. Same type of stock and grip in a smaller package. I passed it on to my dad and upgraded to the 12 guage.
Their is a whole series about the 20th century long hunter. Watch it from the very beginning since his comments about the 12 gauge single shot are scattered through out that series. The gun is at the core of the Modern long hunter concept. It's also a good series if you haven't seen it do yourself a favour and check it out.
Watching you on discovery, they mention sniper, but there is no mention of you being the best friggin survival teacher ever to walk the planet! Rock on Dave! Hope you will start posting videos again soon.......
I have been wanting to buy a new single shot 12 gauge for awhile now. This gives me more options for it. I am going to cut down the barrel to the bare legal length and keep hot glue slugs with it for defense. I've said it before but you are definitely the man I trust when it comes to survival.
I watched a video of shot shells fired through a rifled shotgun barrel. The pattern spread wider from the rifled barrel then from a smooth bore probably because it put a spin on the pellets. So it is a trade off. Better pattern for the .410 or better accuracy for the .45. At the average distance they both would be used I suspect the difference would be minimal.
Dave, I have to totally agree with Johnnyb357 and will definitely be adding this whole configuration to my arsenal!! Thanks again for all that you and your family do to continue educating and passing on the Tribal knowledge!! God bless you my Friend!!
Sure wish they made that stock for the old Savage 24's I have one of the 24c take down backpack guns, but wouldn't mind being able to hold more ammo in the stock forearm.
Dave, another excellent informative video. That set up looks to have all bases covered. I placed an order with your store last night. Thank you for the well made, common man gear !
Nice! I have a .410 version that my dad gave me a few years ago. But your video has made me think of getting a 12ga and set it up like yours. Now that H&R came to Remington Arms in Ilion NY and yes I work there for the last 10 years lol but great video keep up the good work
Talk about memories. Those shotguns have been around forever. It was the one shotgun WalMart always had. Just about everyone I know had one of these at one time or another as they're so cheap. Great for sawing off and making into a jacket pocket shotgun. Theres no forgiveness with these as they kick like a mule. I would imagine the stock cover here might soak up some recoil.?.?. That 3inch conversion kit is genius but I wonder if works well with side by sides or over unders ??? Great video and nice info. Thanks Dave,N8knox
Dave your right this is the way to go ...in a "real shtf" (on zombes) this is what will happen you will find ammo of all odd sizes . my only thought is "why not longer" for more rifling? this is up there with your tin bottle s and cup you sell!! Randy in Ohio
What song is that at the start of you videos please sir. I would like to get it. Outstanding videos as well sir,. I will be moving near Ohio and if finances allow, I think my son and I will be going thru your training programs. God Bless
it will not, because the storage compartment is 3,5x7 inches, so diagonally the distance is 7,8 inches from corner to corner. Bare in mind that the adaptor is not placed exactly at the corners, so the diagonal storing length is even shorter for the adaptor. Is it an option to saw off about half an inch? Though i think the adaptor could fit inside the traditional, wooden stock
Single shot shotguns are extremely simple and as such, are some of the cheapest and most reliable firearms available. Also the most versatile like Dave said, with use of adapters.
Old training dies hard. Everyone around laughs when they hear that "pop, pop" and it has become a trade mark of mine. Besides, sometimes one shot dosn't drop the deer and I'd like to get the second one as close to the first shot before the deer moves. Most of the time the double tap method works without a hitch.
Hey Dave, love the setup and ideas you have going on there. I would like to see a review video for the adapters in action though. That is to say, I would enjoy it if you could do a video shooting with the adapters in the gun to show range and accuracy. Thanks.
Excellent presentation of what could be a very viable survival weapon. I enjoyed the 'how-to' on the shell making for the 12 ga. Like you said, the adapter make this even more of a survival situation gun. Just how good do the rifled adapters do as far as accuracy, distance?? Thanks...keep up the great work!
they have one that is smooth in 357/38. i got a 1.5" 3 shot group with it out of my NEF modified single shot, and a 5" group in a sxs. i emailed them a while back and they are working on a rifled .357/38 adapter
Dave, kudos to you for opening eyes around the world. This is infinitely more capable than a AR-7 or a M6 (coupled with a pathfinder kit), assuming the quality of the stock. In the interest of bombproofedness (yes, I made that word up just now), I would respectfully ask you that you REALLY abuse that stock that way that a true survival situation might just. In other words, I would love to see a ballistic gel beat-down or a dead pig get hammered in various ways with it.
I'd like to see a video of you shooting the adapters so we might see how they perform. I like the idea of having one gun with multiple calibers available, but I want to see how the adapters perform before I buy.
my grandfathers leaves something to be desired in accuracy (30+ years old and damaged stock), and some pellet guns have more recoil, I can handle it fine with a broken rib, not sure what you mean about weight
@TheChubbyKid try impact guns buds discount guns cheaper than dirt. or just go to walmart or your local gun shop you will have to have it shipped to a ffl any way.
I think that would look really nice with a camo paint job , something like your rifle from a video a while back . Also I have not seen the pack goat in a while I was hoping to see him make a trip to the tepee .
I went a little different on my NEF I cut barrel to 20" had a poly choke installed off of a old mossberg ( no choke tubes to lose) installed rifle sights off a remington 700 for slugs. Sling swivels. I went paracord sling encase I need paranoid. And made it double wide so I can take off one and still have a sling . 5 shell shell holder and a hammer èxtension. I have pumps and autos but this is the gun that goes everywhere I go. The rest are safe queens. Let me ask ya I know the 22 adapter isn't going to be a tack driver but with my rifled sights is it accurate enough to be useful?
I finlly found someone how love the singal shot 12 GA as much as I do. it the only gun i own put that with a 22 revolver side arm the the adaptors and a good knife your set love the vids glad I found them.
What are some of the negative effects of using the adapters? How do they affect range, accuracy, etc? Thanks for all your videos, they are very much appreciated.
I want to get this so bad!!!! The allen sleeve can hold the adapters and I plan to get a bandoleer preferably with a satchel attached or to accompany it! The cavities can hold the cleaning tools and the satchel would hold reloading tools as well as space for scavenged/looted ammo as well as additional ammo.
Could I get a link or directions on how to buy the exact setup you have, this is exactly what I've been looking for! I really appreciate all your videos and thanks in advance for any help.
The single shot shotgun is very versatile but, a good rifle is a must I think(sometimes). With the adapers they work well close in with those calibers. At longer ranges I see them enaccuracy. I think you did a video on th M6 but those are not all that common. How about some videos covering .22 rifles or high power like a forigen surplus, single shot (interchange barrels rifle&shotgun), or newer entry level bolt actions. Something like .223, 7.62x39, 7.62x54 or .308 is powerful and commonman.
hi dave saw this stock and forend spoke to the great people at choate and mine are on their way to me here in the uk .going to build a survivor gun ill ost a vid up cheers scout
