Dells aren't really that bad, sure they use lower end chipsets usually but often they use a name brand manufacturer to build their custom OEM boards (HP/Compaq AM2/AM3 AMD systems used Asus A8-M2N motherboards for example) they do charge a little extra for assembling it all for you but you also get a warranty and all of your drivers are easily found by entering a simple service tag into the website support page. They do great for every day general use out of the box (even better if you wipe their install and do a clean windows install and just the drivers and software you use) and if you have any issues you have that big OEM backing the product.
Those new Dell Prebuilts are suprisingly good value, I also wouldnt worry too much about the small fan featured on the RX560, usually the best binned RX Cores end up in Apple, Dell, and HPs Hands, meanign that we usually end up with cards operating at near/fullspeed with a fraction of the power consumption. I reckon my family will still be using a Core i5 550M Laptop with Elementary OS for a few more years, but for a budget pre-built these Dells are suprisingly decent, they also come with very little bloat compared to some OEMs.
so true, put my 1080 ti i got from a friend under water and it ran almost 200 mhz higher than my normal retail one (manually optimised) with just the normal boost
randomgamiginhd your mom seems like a pretty smart lady. she might not understand computers as well as you do, but she was right. this was a good video.
I honestly don't get you PC guys. Ok his mom is justified, but anyone else who has a PC worth less than £500 , what is the point. Ok if you re rich with money to spend and you have a £1.000 or over, PC and a 4k screen (and you don't mind missing out on Sony exclusives) But a £500 PC or cheaper is performing less than consoles and costs more. How can you justify that to yourself without admitting you re a fanboy.
@@dudeguy8553 I dont care how outdated hardware you use, you cant build a PC that plays RDR2 at a functional framerate and 1080p with anything less than 300$ , and I m understating.
I'd love to see a vid of you slowly upgrading this PC with old but better parts and cards so if you or her or anyone wants to game or have a better experience with it you have the option and considering how many parts and cards you have lying around why not put them to good use :)
I will never stop getting these kind of comments. That's what I get for making up a internet nickname as a 9 year old and sticking with it all this time :P
Always listen to yer mum, I enjoyed it. Having purchased quite a few Dell's for my workplace, they actually make pretty decent systems for a great price when they're on sale. The one thing I've learned though, is never buy retail price, never let one of their support people set up a system for you (you'll pay retail or close to it), and look for coupons. We have a business contact at Dell, and just about every time we've tried to purchase anything from him, we were able to find a better price just with the deals on offer and using coupon codes. It got bad enough last time when we purchased our latest laptop, he refused to even match the price that I was able to get just by ordering of their website. In general, customer supports is pretty awful.
One of my IT teachers swears by hp and Dell (especially the older, cheaper and prebuilt PCs) and laughs at any more pricy, higher performance gear saying that its unnecessary and a waste of money. I die inside a little every lesson.
Greyscale Let me clear this up, he stated that it IS necessary for rendeting, 3D animation and similar (which it absolutely is) but that there is no point getting games to run at anything higher than 30 fps with low or medium graphics. He said that the computers in the IT class would do the trick for gaming. He knows whats inside them, hes a specialized teacher, whose lessons teach about computer parts. The PCs have intel core II duo CPUs and no graphics cards.
Dom NX what's the point of an IT class about hardware parts that completely change in a ~18 month cycle. Shouldn't IT class be more about the general concept of how things like networks or programming languages work and getting to know how the binary system works as opposed to our every day decimal system? At least that's what IT was like in my school when I sometimes happened to be listening to the teacher instead of playing WC 3, CS 1.6 and COD 4 MW with the other guys on the school PCs.
The class itself is about the general concept of PC parts, an in depth look at what, for example, CPUs do and how they are built, all the different types of processors, etc. This goes for all parts of computers, laptops and such. We also learn how to put together PCs during this class and the different counting/number systems. We have other classes for what you said. This class is one of the more fun and probably the most practical, its just a shame that the teacher has a bias towards old prebuilts.
Good review of that system. Like yourself I typically shun prebuilts but for 300 your mum got a great deal and I expect will be very happy with it for its intended purpose.
You must thank your mum for giving you the opportunity of reviewing her new PC. I wish more people would review pre builts that feature a dedicated video card as i am curious to see how they stack up against a PC you build with similar parts. That Dell is decent for anyone who is just going to browse the web and game with titles like rocket league at best.
There are a lot of advantages to a pre-built machine of recent vintage, generally easy to find drivers for them, they mostly use standard form factor components are fairly easily upgraded and aside from the main boards generally being of the lower end and not really high performers they do alright for most tasks and when paired with a decent GPU can game pretty well as well. With a new one you also get a warranty and only have to deal with one support service for the entire thing instead of one for each vendor of each component. Oh if you have issues with capturing using OBS studio works wonders on VCE/AMF/NVenc/Quick Sync stuff.
I do understand why many people decide to buy pre-builds computers, even if they are built disproportionately (that's why you can still find many pre-builds PC's for sale). Considering at how fast the market changes, the manufacture of new series of CPU, GPU, RAM, etc. it can mess with people's heads, being too demanding for many to keep up with the PC world. And many do not have a natural affinity to understand, for example, the difference between memory ram and GPU ram (hello there, my dear sister :) ). My parents are in the same category. And many of my relatives. So that's that ! I had a pleasure since I was a little kid to dive into electronics. That's why all the systems in our home are built by me. I've built many of my relatives PC's too. I can think about mutiple situations in which they had a surprised look when they wanted to buy a 800$, a 1.000$ pre-build PC, and after I've talked to them for what they want to use it, the price would range between 400-600$ for a custom, brand new PC from scratch. It has been more than 10 years since I've been doing this, and the most common issue I would encounter would be a HDD failure after several years. The freedom in custom builds to buy quality parts is just amazing. I love having seperate warranties for all my parts. A good power source that provides and maintains a stable tension and voltage is hardly found in a pre-build PC, unless it is overpriced.
There’s one thing you gotta love about AMD’s AM4 platform. You could in theory upgrade this PC from a Ryzen 3 1200 all the way up to a 5950x, making it go from being a low end system to an absolute beast. Can’t usually do that with Intel.
I bought this pc a week or two before your review. Kinda funny to see a review of a pc I own getting recommended. Loved the review, good to know the performance of games I don't own at the moment. I only bought this pc because it was the cheapest I could find and they didn't have it at the nearest store so I had to go and drive for half a hour to the store and fit it in my car and another half a hour driving back and getting it all hooked up. It was sure worth the fuel I wasted and time I wasted for a decent deal. I hope for the best for your mum's gaming adventures.
However I would recommend playing Far Cry 5 and Assassin Creed Origins on 720p, yes it may not look as good, but you will have alot better frame rate than the ones in the video.
Lukas Beier that's a shame. If you care enough to deal with the inconvenience, you could always buy the full prebuilt and transfer everything to a different case for resale.
RGB isn't always a bad thing. It doesn't need to be set up to look like a unicorn puking rainbow glitter; it can be set up to project single or complementary colors. As far as prebuilts go, that one isn't super bad.
I find it strange how much the 1200 struggled with games when I'm still using a 2500k which is basically the same performance and averages over 100fps in PUBG and other big games. My guess would be the CPU was bottle-necked by the single channel memory.
Maybe youve got a better gpu, plus the 1200 has worse single core, but that wouldnt be a huge performance decrease, almost definitely your graphics card
That's completely fine. My friend started PC gaming with a similar machine 2012 (Core i3, IGP, 2GB Ram for 300€) Now it has a new PSU, a GTX1050Ti, 8GB Ram, and an i5 2500... Those have some value, and Dell's motherboards are very good. (Very stable, but as expected no OC options)
Pre builts aren't that bad nowadays. As long as you know where to look. If you look on craigslist for people selling their old rigs you can find some pretty good deals. I found a PC with ab r9 390, and a core i5 4th gen, (probably a bottle neck, but for the price y'know) and 12 GB ram for only $200. The r9 390 is nearly as good as the gtx 1060 6 gb.
joe nodden I totally agree, but like you said, „as long as you know where to look“ which people sometimes have difficulties. I made a dumb mistake and I never want it to happen to anyone again. I bought a pre-built PC... for 720€. It’s so bad. No upgradeability. Oh and yeah, there are usually good deals that you can get with pre-built PCs. Guess I didn’t know what I was looking for back then.
Logan Pennington You're acting like I know nothing about it when you're the one calling it an anonymous mask? It's the guy Fawkes mask, anonymous uses it but that doesn't make it their mask. Oh man you're dumb. What does this even have to do with my comment?
Wouldn't say that 390 is a good deal. Sure, it's quite fast, but it's notorious for being extremely wasteful and running hot. It was even worse than R9 290X, which was a disaster too.
For the price she paid, it's not absolutely terrible. M.2 slot for upgrading an SSD, the power supply looked to be standard ATX size, and everything worked. Pre-builts aren't for people who want to build their own PC, it's for people who want to plug a computer in, and play Fortnite. At $390 US, the PC you could build would have a 570 instead of a 560, a 2200g instead of a 1200, and you could put in an SSD as a boot drive. That's not including the price of a Windows 10 key, though.
I’d like to point out, you have the 2 GB cut down RX 560. I have the 4 GB cut down RX 560 in my gaming PC, and the additional VRAM helps a ton. I can usually push textures to highest but post processing to medium or low. My build also features a Ryzen 5 1600, a DVD Drive, a 2 TB WD Black 5400 RPM drive, a 256 GB M.2 SSD, 8 GB of dual channel RAM, a non modular EVGA 450 watt PSU, and some RGB. It originally included a Ryzen 3 1300X, and my cost on building it was around $600 without the M.2 Drive. The SSD and R5 came later; I traded a YuGiOh card and $30 for the ssd and the R5 was $170 at Buy time. I also got warranties on the CPUs, motherboard, graphics card, HDD, and PSU.
The best way to record game footage is through a capture card. If you record this way, the footage will be almost identical to how the pc would run it normally. I do know it costs money for a capture card but I think its worth it especially for a successful channel that reviews components and pc.
Fun fact: I actually ended up with a completely free Ryzen 1200. I bought a used return B450M board on Amazon and it arrived with a 1200 installed in. I didn't use it long as I had an available 1700X and a 3600 but did boot it up and ran UserBenchmark to make sure it worked. Not a bad CPU at all. Not cutting edge but a 1200 or 1600 and a 1060 or 580 would be my suggestion for someone on an uber budget as the all seem available for pretty cheap.
I was of the same opinion as you regarding pre-built systems, until I had major trouble with my main PC, which coincided with someone giving me a Precision T3500 for free. I put my GTX 1060 in it and it's the best PC I've ever owned. The Dell diagnostics are awesome too.
hey, I just using my new pc. I love it so much. after watching your videos for a year I finally got it. I will still watch your channel as I enjoy your videos. :D
i enjoyed the review, im also interested in how they sis the lighting, i will admit i did not focus too much on the machine when you opened it but i am interested in the lightning
I bought a Dell in 2014, and it was pretty decent for what I was doing then (light gaming at low-medium settings), with the mid-line tech inside it (latest i3 at the time, no video card, 8 gigs ram, 1 tb 7200rpm). I then upgraded it a bit when my needs got more intense, and it still holds up great. Overall, at least from what I've seen, most prebuilts, especially Dells, are actually pretty competitively priced compared to a custom build of similar specs these days, and not that bad a deal overall, especially if you want something that simply works out of the box.
Your mum is right, we do enjoy this content. Because remember, in a few years someone is going to get a great used deal on one of these and will use this video as a reference.
Dells like the prebuilt inspirons that are a weird shape like really tall and not very long are proprietary as fuck which is a shame as you couldnt stick a decent graphics card in them with the low wattage power supply
i dont think it was the cpu fan. i guess it is that small gpu fan. of course the cpu fan will be kind of loud too but i guess it is nothing compared to the fan of the gpu.
@@bertracoon1884 i agree, my gtx 1080 fan is very loud while gaming, it even makes my case vibrate lol i can feel it maybe I shouldn't have gotten a "mini" version, only got it because it was cheap
@@yotoprules9361 maybe you can adjust the fan curve, if the temperatures are good enough to lower speed. it can be done most of the time with msi afterburner. it is a free software which works for every card.
@@yotoprules9361 and you should look at your general airflow in the case. if that is bad, then temperatures can rise a decent amount too. at least have one fan on the bottom of the front and on the top of the back. it could also be the case, that your card is a bit dirty. cleaning it up cant be a mistake, same goes for the whole pc. maybe you got some airfilters that are stuck with dirt.
@@bertracoon1884 I get around 81 on the gpu max while gaming. and yeah my airflow is bad, I only have 1 case fan and the top of the case is always warm to the touch, it's not bothering me too much for now but when I have the money I will install 2 case fans on the top and 2 on the front and yeah I cleaned my pc a month ago and my cpu went from 94 to around 70ish, also replaced thermal paste is it too early to replace the paste on the gpu too? since it's still a fairly new card
i have this exact Case as i also bought a Dell Inspiron, but i bought it for about 1300 Canadian Dollars, it has a i7 8700 with a GTX 1060 and 8GB of RAM .. i honestly love the design of this PC and im insanely happy with this.. i would highly suggest this for the great cost
Not a Bad PC for the price. I like the case. I wonder what it costs Dell to build one of these, wish i could buy parts at their prices. Thanks for sharing.
Since fan noise worsens the older a computer gets, I wouldn't want to own this beast. Due to the very loud fan noise, I wonder if Dell tested this 'gaming computer' with actual game play? I can't imagine ANY prebuilt computer company would release a computer that makes this much noise? Just imagine how loud it would get if you went with a stronger Ryzen CPU? I would advise you to take a can of air to this computer every few months to keep dust from making it run even hotter. You may want to consider installing a better CPU Fan Cooler because AMD runs hotter than their Intel counterpart. You may catch a sale on a liquid cooling setup and that would take care of all excessive fan noise and cooling issues. I'm not that much for liquid cooling, but that loud fan noise indicates this may be a prime candidate for a radiator based cooling setup. We've got several AMD based computers and they all run hotter than our Intel units plus those AMD's will even shutdown at times due to this. The sad part is that I can't install better CPU fan coolers on the laptop units - ugh. I'm sure your mom will not game much, but warn her that if she does she needs to realize about the excessive fan noise. If you don't give her advance warning she will call you one day and tell you her "new" computer sounds like it is about to self destruct. Good video and we now know what to avoid buying when it comes to Dell prebuilt 'gaming computers.' Praise The Lord and Godspeed to you all - Romans 8:38-39!!
Ryzen doesn't actually run much hotter than Intel if at all, it was mainly the FX lineup that had that issue. They actually run cool enough that the stock wraith cooler that comes with retail models can overclock pretty well on it (yes, even 6-core ones). The problem here is being an OEM system, this might not be that fan, but rather the older stock fan they used for FX/Athlon systems or some other OEM variety. If its the same as the case fan, that's just double-trouble I doubt the CPU is getting too warm, just a small, loud fan. The old stock coolers could sound like a small air conditioner once they got going. Even a cheap $20-ish aftermarket cooler would probably be a lot quieter, not to mention cool better.
Coming from someone who did buy this PC, with a 1700x and 1060 6gb (it was $1500 Canadian and during the gpu craze... So basically cheaper than even building a PC with a 1060 3gb), and having it for about a year so far... I don't see any of the problems you mention at all... I don't have the ryzen 3 cooler, but have the one used for ryzen 5s and 7s (can't remember it's name for the life of me), and my CPU generally stays between 30-45 degrees for everyday things depending on the workload, and during even my most CPU intensive games I've never seen it past 70. Fan noise is very subjective, but for me, (worth mentioning that I use headphones) i can't even hear it usually, though it may be noticeable for speaker users. Now, I've had a couple different issues. Though the case is nice.. Dust gets in really easily from the side, a bit annoying. Then there's this really odd issue that I only had this month where the PC turned on but would send a signal to my monitor or peripherals... It was fixed by simply taking out the power cord and holding the power button (as the person who helped me said... It was to release the backed up power in the system). Now that's a bit weird and a power supply change may be needed in the future, but it was a small problem so it's nothing I'm worrying about right now
some of the prebuilts from the past year were actually pretty good, that was one way to get around the ram shortage and high video card price. I really liked that case though, glad they went to standard atx parts
Do as your told. Mother knows best! It's a pretty inoffensive machine, which seemed to have been bought at a good second hand price. You can even have that special unboxing experience and peel off that wrapping.
That RX560 isn't so shabby - in fact I use a factory OC'd RX460 which also has the same Shader Counts as that. My clock is at 1220MHz whle that is a 20 less so yeah - not a bad card. If you tested Wolfenstein 2 and DOOM 2016 there - it would play really nicely.
I have a DELL Inspiron 3478 Desktop Computer, i5 cpu, 16gb ram, 256gb ssd , 4tb storage, gtx1050ti... and honestly, I can see no reason to change it at all. Dell have great motherboards with integrated wifi and bluetooth, the design (as a PCB designer myself) is really good, strong, beautiful chassis, and super networking capabilites... the motherboard is a standard uATX from Microstar, and so reliable. My only change to the original computer was the power supply. It is always connected to a 50inch TV and all my Steam Games (60 or so) live on it. It's a very capable system which I use daily. Too many misconceptions about pre-built. Or too many know-it-alls. Computing since 1979. Now THAT took skill. It's all too easy to slap expensive parts in a wonderful case.
I got a used Dell Optiplex 9010 tower for about 60 bucks. It had Core i5 3550 with it but nothing else. I added parts such as 12GB of RAM, SSD and HDD and a GTX1050TI SSC. It runs a boatload of games at higher settings on my ultrawide 2560x1080 monitor. For a total of around $225 it's a capable gaming system.
I got a prebuilt when I knew nothing about PC's 5 years ago, 1,5 years ago I started upgrading it, and I would say it is not a bad idea for starters, because with prebuilt you do not have to start... from the begining... And now with a few upgrades I can still play all modern games at 60 FPS, I jammed a 1060 in that PC, a new CPU and more RAM, but without having to think what case I had to buy, what motherboard I wanted or how much other crap I wanted to throw in my own PC. And when I want a new case I can buy one today if I wanted and just do it 100% by myself (Something I am probaly going to do in a few years)
Looks like a good value,but for similar price (380€) I got recently a combo of 470 gigabyte Aorus gaming rgb mobo + Ryzen 5 2600 + 2x8Gb DDR4 Ram 2933.I think same way as you,it's better buil your own PC than buying a prebuild one. But for "casual" gamers or in case of low budget they work pretty well and it's not a bad choice. Thanks 4 uploading good content and see ya on next video :D
This is the system I have. I have upgraded it since. It now runs a Ryzen 5 1600, 16GB Corsair RAM, Gigabyte 1660 SUPER, 500GB Samsung 860 EVO nvme M.2 & 4TB WD Black HDD. It’s a very powerful system now. When I got it brand new, it was perfect for most gaming.
I seen a few Dell systems like this powered on in the likes of Currys/PC World and it does look pretty nice. A far cry from the beige boxes I remembered when being trawled through as a kid through the likes of Tiny PC and PC World back in the day. :) I remembered Hot UK Deals had a deal for Lenovo system sold direct on their site and it was one of their their Y-Series (Y520T) packed with an i3 7100, a 1050Ti and 8GB of RAM for £399.99.
I have a full fledged RX 560 in my PC with 4GB of vram. It supports native video capture (the cut down one doesn't). Performs about 15-20% better than the cut down one. Which is basically leftover RX 460's they have rebranded.