Revolutionize Your Score: How Output’s AI Tool Changes Making Music! 

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Totally agree, I’m really excited to see how this evolves over the year

It's a ton of fun and the results are great! Was really impressed how accurate the packs were based on the prompt👏👏👏

Thanks so much! Really appreciate this I’ll put it in the pipeline to address these questions, great things to talk about that I think a lot of people will benefit from!

Great point I forgot to mention that about the in-house samples! Super credible and great way to apply the assets built from arcade

Great to hear!

I love cartoons 👽

Awesome! It’s like a sandbox for sound designers and music producers, have fun!

It’s pretty wild - I’m going to make a sheet of prompts I personally use and have gotten cool stuff from to share at some point

Congrats man. You have the perfect tone for educational videos.

Ok everything cool. How is this any faster than working on presets on your favourite synth?

Appreciate you checking it out…I haven’t seen anything lately that’s truly useable. I was just checking out unison audios dragon bass (or something like that) and it’s cool but not as applicable to composing as it is song creation or beat making. I imagine companies may be saving bigger releases for the fall as they typically do

My pleasure!

Thanks so much!

My pleasure!

I own all their stuff too! They’re awesome …arcade is a lot of fun but I get the subscription aversion - everything has gone subscription 😫

The company typically becomes the owner of the music when there’s an upfront fee involved. With some contracts you can request to have it removed after a certain point IF you retained ownership and merely licensed them the right to use your tracks

Yes I’ve noticed you will get repeated samples depending on the search criteria as well.

Glad you enjoyed it!

My pleasure!

I didn’t make an original composition with these sounds - this was more about how I am finding and turning them into individual instruments in kontakt BUT I can always do a part 2 with that!

It is crazy - I was very impressed how well the prompts yielded relevant results

Yep! It's only getting better!@@jonasfriedman

I’m not sure I’m understanding correctly but if you’re asking if there’s any legal issue with using sound packs - there is not as long as they obtained legally (purchase through the sellers store) and you use them according to their license agreement. Most are royalty free and created with the intention that composers and producers will use them for music creation in combination with other instruments

@@jonasfriedman Hi man, yes, was exactly this that i asked. Is good know that we, producers and composer can use this, withouw problens law.

I believe it’s a search engine for the output library that finds a collection of their sounds based on the prompt. It’s not generating the files from thin air - at least that’s my interpretation- it’s a clever usage of their arcade library IMHO

I haven’t checked those out yet thanks for sharing going to search them

Dennis Sands is a great mixer - in next weeks video you’ll see I demonstrate something not exactly like what you’re referring to but a similar practices where I double a track and split the signal left and right …stay tuned!

@@jonasfriedman Gold!

@@jonasfriedman I hope in this video or in a future video, you can discuss with us how you manage the relationship between volume on your individual channels (instruments) and how much expression/modulation you put in on the instrument, and how much db should each stem put out. I don't know if that's relevant to achieve that cinematic sound but I've noticed professional composers have a certain level of quality in their end product that is really hard to achieve.

@alial-akabi4671 a good amount of this is covered in my course modern scoring mastery I usually put my midi volume around 100 and then program the expression / modulation as needed. I use the pre gain in the final stem busses to keep my master buss volume in check. I try not to let me then master buss peak above 5db at the loudest part of a cue.

@@jonasfriedman I just watched the trailer, seriously thank you for all this! It's been hard to catch small amount of information from hundreds of videos here on RU-vid! This channel + that course and your comments/answers here is really a one-stop shop for becoming a professional composer.

I totally get what you're saying. I felt that way when working in the producing world for rock and pop bands - the amount of terrible singers or drummers that quantizing and auto tuning was able to make sound like rockstars became laughable. That said, the point of this application is not to use the packs as compositions...but instead take the individual sounds to work with in your own writing, as I demonstrate when taking the sound and turning it into a kontakt pad. While other tools will lower the barriers to entry, similar to how sample libraries and computers for scoring are all more accessible now...it's important to remember that composing for film and tv, especially at the higher level is a multifaceted line of work. Writing or creating music is just one part of the equation...it's also producing (mixing mastering layering), programming, knowing story, pacing, understanding film in general - these additional skills create a mote to a degree for this line of work (not saying it's forever, who knows). There will always be cheap options for scoring work (lots of people score for free!) and then there will be the price for hiring someone with all of those extra skills.

@@jonasfriedman I agree with a lot of that, for sure. (For context, I'm 9ish years into a full-time film&tv scoring career). But this isnt the final form of this technology. It'll keep iterating from here. And fast. We can cherry-pick useful elements generated by Output's AI and re-contextualize them in creative and thoughtful ways, how you do here to great effect (similar to how I work with eurorack). But how long until you can text-prompt your way to fully detailed cues, responding to narrative shifts, hitting picture cuts, ingesting themes and spitting out variations.... Considering in like 8 months, AI-generated music went from absolute trash to "wow this is actually very useable", it really doesn't feel that far away to me.

@@benfox2973 totally get it. The uncertainty surrounding Ai can be intimidating, we’ll just keep following it and I’ll be posting more about it on here as relevant developments take place - for now I was happy to see this development but I have no doubt there will be some wild discoveries in 2024 🙃

It’s a great question and no one knows the long term answer - but this is a question being asked across literally every single industry. If we’re left in the void it will be with everyone else meaning the problem isn’t music or composer specific. There are lots of companies trying to make ai that can do as you explained - aiva is one of them and I’ve honestly experimented with as many of them as I could get my hands on. I’ve tried to use them on professional projects and they are (for now) pretty useless. However if they were able to work at creating not just one useable track but an entire soundtrack, there’s then the challenge of the ai being able to score to the moving picture - once it can do that it then needs to be able to take notes from not just one but multiple people (directors, producers, editors) who may want different emotions or accents to be hit in a million different ways. I like to believe products that actually work like this one from output will become popular, spawning more products that assist people, and therefore while our role may evolve with the technologies, we will still be actively involved in the music and film making process. Similar to how the role of composers evolved from pen and pencil to computer generated mock-ups. Again it’s a question with an unknown answer but I think outputs line of thinking here is that of an ally to musicians

@@jonasfriedman Good points indeed, honestly one of the main reasons I decided I was going to make music that was at a "higher level" than the stuff my friends were working on (pop hip hop etc) is the higher "price of entry". if its a challenge it weeds out the masses and perhaps there would be more opportunity for the folks that can really do some damage. I feel like Ai will handle "beats" soon enough. like in a year and a half. but a full score, or jazz arrangement, its going to take a while. the one thing we CAN do to set our tracks apart is getting ANY live instrumentation we can on it.

@Doty6String - 10000% agree! This is dead on 👊

@@jonasfriedman "Ai Bot, write me a melody as good as Cinema Paradiso".....

@@Doty6String ha!

Ya know I hear that a lot and the truth is - when that day comes - music producers will not be the only ones replaced - people in every industry will be. So whose going to by all of the products that AI is producing? If everyone is out of a job - a lot of companies will eventually go out of business. So there’s a larger economic landscape to consider I think. In regards to ai replacing music producers - if you’re a beat maker then yes you’re going to be replaced by ai quickly. But you could just as easily have been replaced by a 12 year old in their bedroom as well. Beat making and popular music in general became very easy to replicate quite a while ago. However, music for media - written specifically for picture, while certainly not immune to ai, is a far more nuanced art form for a machine or program to execute. There is (in my opinion) a greater amount of time for that to take place if it does.

Yep that tracks