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Enfield carbines are marvelous little guns, in my opinion, and just ooze history. This particular one is a Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) carbine, 10,000 of which were converted from obsolete British military Lee Enfield and Lee Metford carbines in 1903 and 1904. Where the British carbines had full-length stocks, the RIC wanted to be able to mount bayonets (specifically, 1888 pattern Metford bayonets). To accommodate this, the carbines were modified with a sleeve to increase the muzzle to the proper diameter and a spliced wood section at the end of the stock to allow a bayonet lug nose cap - which had to be mounted lower than the carbine stock would normally fit.
The Enfield and Metford carbines had been deemed obsolete after the Boer War, when the British army standardized on the new short rifle (the SMLE) to replace both long rifles and carbines. The SMLE included many other changes from the carbine pattern guns, which had different safeties, dust covers on the bolts, 6-round magazines, no stripped clip guides, and sights similar to the earlier Martini-Henry pattern rifles. Finding intact carbines in the US is difficult, as there guns had long military careers and were often updated and modified many times.
Note that the RIC carbine is very similar to the New Zealand contract military carbines, and the two are best differentiated by the wood at the nose cap. The RIC guns have a spliced-in larger section, where the NZ carbines have a smooth taper to the nose. In addition, RIC carbines were made from both Metford and Enfield carbines - the Metfords had been built with sling bars in the side of the stocks, and retained these in their RIC configurations. Enfield carbines used sling swivels on the bottom of the stocks.
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@briankelly8297
@briankelly8297 7 лет назад
Nice to see some weapons for your Irish viewers.
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 7 лет назад
Not really something to be proud of.
@briankelly8297
@briankelly8297 7 лет назад
It's the historical pronounce of the weapon and the connection to a deep and turbulent conflict. Also I would say more interesting than most weapons as it shows an evolution of the various other rifles and designs moving forward.
@briankelly8297
@briankelly8297 7 лет назад
provenance*
@mossbergmaniac1947
@mossbergmaniac1947 7 лет назад
I love it when rifles are covered in stamps and proof marks, I'd take that over engraving any day.
@jayfelsberg1931
@jayfelsberg1931 6 лет назад
my 1917 Mk III* has a wealth of British and Australian arsenal marks on the stock. The last date is 11/44
@peepsbates
@peepsbates 7 лет назад
Who else here is Irish and just waiting for the comments section to devolve into one typical of anything involving Britain and Ireland from back in this time period?
@MaliciousMollusc
@MaliciousMollusc 7 лет назад
peepsbates I'm neither Irish nor British but quite frankly, I think the British were at fault. Since the olden days, they invaded and plundered nations. Now that someone hurts them back, it's deemed such a lowblow. Like, how dare they resist, right?
@peepsbates
@peepsbates 7 лет назад
Of course. It was a justified rebellion but I mean in the sense that people who have never had any connection to the war of independence are still like "FOOKIN' BABY KILLIN' SCUMBAGS! UP DA 'RA!", most of it from being indoctrinated at a young age to hate the British. Same thing happens with Northerners in the UVF as well. It's a real shitshow for no good reason.
@MaliciousMollusc
@MaliciousMollusc 7 лет назад
peepsbates​ +peepsbates I can't say I blame them. Remember, there weren't any of that ISIS crap when Middle East was left alone either... They fucked the people, the people remembered... Another example is South America. Brits fucked them as well, now they are met with torches and pitchforks..
@MaliciousMollusc
@MaliciousMollusc 7 лет назад
Jimmy De'Souza​​ that's strange, I don't see them hosing people with AK's and bombing buses in the west before the west came for oi-----I mean to give them "freedom".. And yes, Britain did fuck South America up in WW2. If you're familiar with the show Top Gear, they went to Argentina, I think, and they were literally chased by an angry mob to the border... That South Africa business is a whole other thing...
@MaliciousMollusc
@MaliciousMollusc 7 лет назад
Jimmy De'Souza​​​ lol, you're missing the point. They minded their business until your oil-thirsty governments went in to "look for WMD's" and "to give freedom"' despite the prosperous economy present. So what's your excuse about that? About the bombings? Paris? Hmm? Lmao no, if South America was "under the influence of US" as you say, then wtf were the Brits doing there in the first place? Greedy, much? Then when they realised they bit off more than they can swallow, they bailed out like nothing happened. So much for a "united kingdom", lol... Allies my ass, they ran out from their "allies" when they needed help the most... If you still doubt me, go to Argentina yourself and declare yourself a Brit, let's see how long you last...
@cmbunit01
@cmbunit01 7 лет назад
Very cool, Ian. I'm from Northern Ireland, so I studied this period of history in school/college. Nice to see a piece of living history from then.
@ashlingmcdonagh4839
@ashlingmcdonagh4839 5 лет назад
Nothern Ireland isn't an independent country.
@TimoMomo
@TimoMomo 5 лет назад
@@ashlingmcdonagh4839 it's the continuation state of Ireland being part of Britain pre 1922, its older than the Republic of Ireland by 25 years.
@johnnyulster5637
@johnnyulster5637 4 года назад
@LimeWire2000 LOL. Laughed at "Go take your face...." Ireland is indeed British. By theft, murder and Oppression. Chuckie Ar La.
@isaacharkton6169
@isaacharkton6169 3 года назад
@@ashlingmcdonagh4839 Southern Ireland doesn’t exist
@micko6393
@micko6393 3 года назад
@@TimoMomo It was designed as an apartheid, orange statelet, for Protestant supremacists to lord it over their Catholic neighbours..." the taigs". Coming to an end now, Thank God...
@gureno19
@gureno19 7 лет назад
Hi from Australia! I still have my Dads no.5 Mk1 jungle carbine in the rifle cabinet, fantastic rifle and a sure fire way to ruin your shoulder after 20 rounds or so.
@corinhings177
@corinhings177 7 лет назад
and make you deaf.
@gureno19
@gureno19 7 лет назад
Corin Hings haha yeah you aren't wrong there, although im always using electronic Peltors, benefit of extended hearing and protection.
@corinhings177
@corinhings177 7 лет назад
+gureno19 was caught of guard hunting with one of the old mans mates years ago. carbine is definitely louder than full smle.
@jayfelsberg1931
@jayfelsberg1931 6 лет назад
20 rounds? It took that many *lol*? I use a slip in with mine for my increasingly elderly shoulder
@nicholasford4820
@nicholasford4820 7 лет назад
Great video - I have a specific interest in weapons from the Irish War of Independence and included in that subset of my collection is a former Metford RIC carbine with the sling bar.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 7 лет назад
The bolt was also used on the SMLE No2 .22 rimfire training/cadet rifle of about 1002/07. These are not converted rifles, they were manufactured in .22 rimfire.
@kieranmilner8316
@kieranmilner8316 4 года назад
The D.M.P stamp denotes that it was used by the Dublin Metropolitan Police which was distinct from the Royal Irish Constabulary (R.I.C.)
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Год назад
Which existed until 1925
@kieranmilner8316
@kieranmilner8316 Год назад
Indeed
@coenijn
@coenijn 7 лет назад
It suddenly struck me: you're sort of like the Jay Leno's Garage for guns. Always makes me want to learn and watch more about them (either cars or guns). Good job!
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 Год назад
I used to work at a garage in LA area that specialized in classic Citroën’s (namely the SM), and Panhards. My boss was friends with Jay, and we would work on the ones that he owned. I got to go visit the collection (which consists of several warehouses turned into showrooms and garages) many times. I think Ian would love to go and look at Classic Citroën and Panhard. Very weird, very innovative, very French.
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 Год назад
I used to work at a garage in LA area that specialized in classic Citroën’s (namely the SM), and Panhards. My boss was friends with Jay, and we would work on the ones that he owned. I got to go visit the collection (which consists of several warehouses turned into showrooms and garages) many times. I think Ian would love to go and look at Classic Citroën and Panhard. Very weird, very innovative, very French.
@dondouglass6415
@dondouglass6415 Год назад
Ian. I have watched you content for years and never made any comments. I just have to say your knowledge and enthusiasm for your subject is beyond compare. Thank you.
@Dambo96
@Dambo96 7 лет назад
@ 10:45 may be the first time iv ever heard anyone describe an enfield as cute
@theextexianlibertarian3332
@theextexianlibertarian3332 7 лет назад
I had no idea they had their own model carbine. Fascinating stuff
@donallbreathnach9998
@donallbreathnach9998 7 лет назад
Nice, My great grandfather used one during the war And shot 2 mercenaries from the reserve Royal Irish constabulary, (the Black N Tans)down In west cork. Very proud of him. Great history to all those rare guns,
@nightrise45
@nightrise45 7 лет назад
Sounds like your granddad would have some interesting stories to tell.
@Norvik_-ug3ge
@Norvik_-ug3ge 5 лет назад
Sounds like he was a murdering traitor.
@MrAlien911
@MrAlien911 5 лет назад
Calling the black and tans or auxies mercenaries is interesting, I had never thought of them that way before. It's somewhat of a stretch, but still not far from the truth. Certainly one of the government's worst mistakes during the rebellion was their creation. Army officers horrified by their commonplace and unjustified reprisal actions had no power to stop them since they were nominally under the control of the RIC, essentially they rampaged around with free rein like bands of plundering medieval sell-swords due to their poor discipline and training.
@ionocinneide617
@ionocinneide617 4 года назад
Norvik_1602 Sounds like he fought for Irish independence to me
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Год назад
On my maternal side who like me are Anglican there was an enlisted RIC man in the late 19th century
@USSEnterpriseA1701
@USSEnterpriseA1701 7 лет назад
I always thought that this was one of the best looking Lee-Enfield/Metford variants. It really is a bit of a shame that these are so hard to find, but at least there is always the Jungle Carbine and it's lookalikes that are much easier to find.
@troy9477
@troy9477 7 лет назад
Interesting. Didn't know much about the constabulary. Nice carbine. Interesting how they used different parent guns. I bet the work only cost a few shillings per rifle- ah the good old days (and the rifles were free!). Great video as always
@SmallDisturbedChild
@SmallDisturbedChild 7 лет назад
Going to have to keep an eye out for one of these, Enfields are my main collection item.
@patrickkelly8512
@patrickkelly8512 7 лет назад
great job ian thanks for all the great vids you upload
@Finderskeepers.
@Finderskeepers. 7 лет назад
Really Interesting Ian, thank you. A lovely piece of history and Im sure you could present a vid on how the enfield has evolved and taken its place in history in so many parts of the world.
@jamesstevenson1231
@jamesstevenson1231 7 лет назад
The little Union Jack scratched into the stock made me smile.
@thomasmichael559
@thomasmichael559 5 лет назад
Liam C because it’s patriotic and colourful.
@Ekib-Niatnuom
@Ekib-Niatnuom 7 лет назад
Any chance you could do the Kiwi Carbine you were talking about?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 лет назад
When I find one, sure.
@fearghasporteous1667
@fearghasporteous1667 7 лет назад
found one in nz for 1,850 NZD
@ozarkbeararms8840
@ozarkbeararms8840 7 лет назад
For what its worth, i show my NZ carbine in a video we did about 9 months ago.
@ozarkbeararms8840
@ozarkbeararms8840 7 лет назад
Happy to let you borrow mine if that would be useful.
@TheBitwise
@TheBitwise 7 лет назад
+Fearghas Porteous Seems a bit steep just for one video
@dannyhanny1191
@dannyhanny1191 7 лет назад
I like the size and features of this rifle a lot. Had many of these been imported, I bet they'd be popular. Since England, and I'd guess then Ireland, went to not really allowing many firearm owners, where did most of these carbines get exported to if not the USA?
@jakekillify
@jakekillify 7 лет назад
A video on the internet about something Irish that DOESN'T have hundreds of Irish people bashing the English in the comments? you have a blessed channel ian.
@FoothillsFreedom
@FoothillsFreedom 7 лет назад
yeah, you know. Genocide is so trivial. That's why England destroyed Europe and helped the Communists for shits and giggles in WW2, since nobody cared about the jews
@jenkinsonian
@jenkinsonian 6 лет назад
The Irish don't tend to do much more than banter with with the British. What you normally get is Americans spouting anti-historical rubbish while cosplaying as Irish
@TimoMomo
@TimoMomo 5 лет назад
@@FoothillsFreedom what genocide?
@nialldolan6729
@nialldolan6729 4 года назад
Elvis Kostopouloss potato famine you tit
@nialldolan6729
@nialldolan6729 4 года назад
@LimeWire2000 it was a genocide. The British saw it was a great opportunity to get rid of the Irish so they only send over rice sure the ottoman empire were better help than those bastards. But you ain't taught that in your schools are ya?
@seanhogan3967
@seanhogan3967 6 лет назад
Wow, excellent video. Fantastic detail, thank you!
@AlaskanQueenInExile
@AlaskanQueenInExile 7 лет назад
Never thought I'd hear Ian describe a rifle as cute.
@desertfoxxx98
@desertfoxxx98 7 лет назад
the magazine wasn't design to be changed out in battle, you fed cartridges into the magazine while it was still in the rifle, that's how you were trained. great video
@allangibson2408
@allangibson2408 2 года назад
The early Lee-Enfields & Medfords were definitely designed to have the magazines swapped. They were not designed to have the magazines reloaded on the rifle. That was the change with the Charger Loading Lee Enfield - marked CLLE. The earlier rifles were supplied with spare magazines (until the Boer War) when charger guides were added to the bolt and the dust cover deleted as a result.
@knittedgandhi4956
@knittedgandhi4956 7 лет назад
Most interesting marking, among the many formal ones, is the 'rough-n-ready', hand carved, Union Jack that can be seen @8:14. As someone of Anglo-Irish descent (as many, if not most!, Brits and Irish are), the political and tribal rabbit hole does indeed run deep!
@VHSBD
@VHSBD 7 лет назад
8:07 At some point, it looks like someone was bored and carved a crude Union Flag on a flagpole to the left of the unit disk.
@oisingarvey1308
@oisingarvey1308 7 лет назад
+Tomartyr better off with an Irish flag
@Oran_Fitz
@Oran_Fitz 3 месяца назад
​+oisingarvey1308 no it is not lmao
@Nosphorus85
@Nosphorus85 7 лет назад
Love watching the videos and getting the storied histories of the firearmes you get to lay with. I've had a peruse of the playlists, but don't see much in the way of flintlocks. I was wondering if you ever have handled a Baker Rifle, or if you ever got the chance, would you do a video on them? Seeing as you've done videos on other 18th/19th c guns!
@jayfelsberg1931
@jayfelsberg1931 6 лет назад
I love the Baker from the Sharpe series. Ian has a video on the volley gun used by Pat in the series
@pintrat2600
@pintrat2600 11 месяцев назад
I saw this gun in a museum and i fully thought it was a lee metford calvary carbine but was stumped by what looked like a 5 round clip in it. I didnt think it was a lee enfield that they labeled it as
@beardypb2443
@beardypb2443 7 лет назад
Yay New Zealand got a mention online 😆
@Murray.Sutherland
@Murray.Sutherland 7 лет назад
BeardyPB That's what I was thinking too!
@aarongooding5687
@aarongooding5687 4 года назад
The RIC were used in agrarian disputes and evictions and needed a weapon that would intimidate a crowd, so a line of bayonets was their answer to crowd control.
@quiglypigly
@quiglypigly 7 лет назад
Was this video realy quiet to anyone else? Regardless, great video!
@mikehurst6148
@mikehurst6148 7 лет назад
quigly pigly
@tangero3462
@tangero3462 7 лет назад
The temptation to have a gun plumber convert one of the ever plentiful and inexpensive Ishapore No. 1s into this pattern is so tempting...
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 7 лет назад
Rifles like this make want to get my FAC :)
@heem_cat5140
@heem_cat5140 4 года назад
9:39 The "DMP" marking means Dublin Metropolitan Police
@falloutlover5443
@falloutlover5443 3 года назад
Well spotted. I have one of these myself, but my marking seems to be DNP instead of an M, do you have any info on what that might mean? I'm trying to dig up as much as I can. Thanks!
@rocksteadyska6933
@rocksteadyska6933 7 лет назад
you can also see where the unionist who had the gun has carved a crude Jack into the stock behind the brass proofmarking
@snipper1ie
@snipper1ie 5 лет назад
I see the man that was issued with it carved a little Union Jack on the stock. I wonder how many of these are still in Irish Ordnance stores?
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Год назад
Chances are not many
@gruntabro1
@gruntabro1 6 лет назад
I have a no1 mk3 1919 manufactured smle 303 that i shoot occasionally and was brought as surplus in the 50s from the nz defence force , but weirdly theres a brass RAF regiment disc set into rge righthand side of the butt stock
@samrussell4065
@samrussell4065 7 лет назад
It would be interesting to see how these faired against the Jungle Carbine.
@panrandom2127
@panrandom2127 4 года назад
This look like one from movie with Jon Peterson hunt 2 maneating lions.
@longstrid48
@longstrid48 7 лет назад
I'm confused Ian. So if you wanted to feed from the magazine, you would have to pull the magazine cut off outwards so it is sticking out? That seems like it could easily snag on things and and be accidentally engaged preventing you from feeding the rest of the rounds in the magazine. Am I wrong?
@johnsabini3351
@johnsabini3351 4 года назад
The cut off moves to the right so will be clear assuming a right handed firer was using the weapon. The concept of the cut off was that when a third world armed with lesser weapons enemy closed to 100 yards the command would be given "magazine fire". If the enemy closed the 100 yards it was then situation desperate and the bayonet came into play!
@jimmyryan5880
@jimmyryan5880 4 года назад
you did a good job describing the RIC. Its very showing that a "police" force took a military weapon and decided it wasn't savage enough.
@mattwuhpur
@mattwuhpur 7 лет назад
Nitro proofed meaning capable of shooting smokeless powder?
@jackmcslay
@jackmcslay 7 лет назад
With the top of the handguard so easy to take off I wonder if it caused problems with them coming off unintentionally or if users removed them after shooting in attempt to cool it off
@quarthinos
@quarthinos 7 лет назад
At 6:52 you can see that the forward spring clip is broken. It looks like a simple piece of spring steel, so it'll break if you drop it wrong.
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 7 лет назад
Looks like one of the clips for holding it in place had come off =/
@Popcorn-np8jg
@Popcorn-np8jg 7 лет назад
Well, now I'm scouring the internet because I want to own an MLE carbine of my own. (They are pretty cute, insofar as a rifle can be considered 'cute.') Thanks, Ian!
@sammni
@sammni 7 лет назад
Ian could you get your hands on the rifles the Germans handed to the UVF/IVF to start an uprising. As Ya know am from Northern Ireland, so this is super interesting to me
@sammni
@sammni 7 лет назад
Ulsterman96 Yes, they the German weapons handed over for an uprising aren't they?
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 7 лет назад
Don't think that'll happen since he is largely dealing with relics found in America. Saying that If any can be found maybe cover both sides since all factions were running a trade from Germany and other countries.
@sammni
@sammni 7 лет назад
Colum Peel Am sure with all the Irish natives in America a few has made it over some where lol.
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 7 лет назад
True, but in the grand sheme of things more guns left US for Irish shores and most were destroyed for good reason (dissident weapons are rare the world over for good reason). No doubt something will come up but I wouldn't hold my breath :)
@sammni
@sammni 7 лет назад
Ulsterman96 Wow I'd love to see them all to be honest lol
@jacobmccarthy7406
@jacobmccarthy7406 7 лет назад
Piting on the rifles meant they where used...it really cant be avoided when dealing with old milsurps.
@drmaudio
@drmaudio 7 лет назад
I never really considered it's application to the bayonet, but the simple fact that stabbing from horseback often involves surrendering your weapon advised calvary saber design.
@joeymoore6630
@joeymoore6630 3 года назад
My uncle found one of these buried near his house but all thatw as left was the barrel and trigger assembly
@chriswarren1618
@chriswarren1618 5 лет назад
I dont think you'd have found too many royalists in Southern Ireland. Probably you mean RUC. I let you be the judge. Great Video.
@Rambleale
@Rambleale 5 лет назад
Chris Warren check the dates
@ionocinneide617
@ionocinneide617 4 года назад
“Southern Ireland”
@ciatangallaghe2485
@ciatangallaghe2485 2 года назад
My mother's grand father, trained with these I think, he was involved with north west mayo flying column. They trained with arms taken from the British.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Год назад
Also the RIC wasn’t really disbanded a rump of the RIC existed in Northern Ireland until 2001 called the RUC.
@lakewooded4929
@lakewooded4929 7 лет назад
We need to take up a new shirt collection for Ian . . .
@djwoody1649
@djwoody1649 7 лет назад
How come so many of our guns and many many other nation's guns ended up in America?
@Totenschaedel98
@Totenschaedel98 7 лет назад
DJWoody It's easier to sell to us than to sell these guns in their home countries because outside of a handful of countries, all other countries have awful gun laws.
@Dixielinemuzik
@Dixielinemuzik 6 лет назад
Because Americans have more freedom of choice and better gun laws than any country in the world.
@seanseanston
@seanseanston 6 лет назад
TBH, the Czechs might be better. At least I believe you can own automatics more easily than in the US. Not to mention places in the US like California.
@knutdergroe9757
@knutdergroe9757 5 лет назад
@@seanseanston , Truth, As of today. Not true, 30+ years ago. Keep Shooting Straight, Brother.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Год назад
@@Totenschaedel98 Well we don’t have much in the way of gun violence
@sneekygreenman
@sneekygreenman 7 лет назад
Haha, we have one of these in our collection at the tower museum! as well as a training version thats cut away! I can send you some snaps if you'd like?
@bumarse6667
@bumarse6667 7 лет назад
sneekygreenman Tower Museum in Derry?
@sneekygreenman
@sneekygreenman 7 лет назад
Noel McDonald yes, I'm a volunteer in there :)
@bumarse6667
@bumarse6667 7 лет назад
Good stuff! I must get a run in and get a look at it.
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 7 лет назад
Ditto. Will need to plan it though. Downpatrick is a long way from Derry.
@sneekygreenman
@sneekygreenman 7 лет назад
I believe its in the 'story of derry' section, the training rifle is in storage sadly
@cheecheneg
@cheecheneg 6 лет назад
Not just a rabbit hole, but a can of worms as well!
@alphapennsylvania9439
@alphapennsylvania9439 7 лет назад
Why does a police force need a bayonet? Because if you got close enough to see a hidden Irishman they'd be close enough to stab.
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 7 лет назад
Sticking and poking. IRA and other factions were guerilla practicioners, meaning strike and subterfuge. As such the RIC would find themselves in mires and hedges not only looking for trouble makers, but their tools. Also, bear in mind something else the IRA and various dissidents were famous for. Better to find a trap with the point of a bayonette than your hand or foot. Finally all this was pre-WW1 when Bayonettes were still very much a stanard piece for soldiers to have (and the RIC had a fight on their hands)
@alphapennsylvania9439
@alphapennsylvania9439 7 лет назад
I'm just poking the hornets nest
@wd291
@wd291 7 лет назад
alpha Pennsylvania yes you are lol
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 7 лет назад
Keep in mind that some police forces (like the swedish) used sabres into the 70's. Cold steel has a tendancy to keep upset people at an arm's length^^
@pfdsmyth
@pfdsmyth 7 лет назад
alpha Pennsylvania aww ... you coulda poked the wasps nest :)
@davidworsley7969
@davidworsley7969 7 лет назад
Very interesting-a lot of work has been put in to modify the carbine to accommodate the bayonet,would it not have been easier to modify the bayonet instead?
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 7 лет назад
You'd still need to machine mountings for the carbine to hold the bayonette as the guns were never designed for the attachment. to modify the bayonette would take a ton more work with much the same mods attached to the bayonette and still no proper mounting system on the gun.
@stewknoles4790
@stewknoles4790 7 лет назад
Very cool and want one for my collection.
@hellonearth-thehistoryofwa1270
Anyone else notice the union jack scratched into the stock?
@tadget0566
@tadget0566 5 лет назад
Could it take the later SLME magazine ???
@DefunctYompelvert
@DefunctYompelvert 4 года назад
Tadget056 yes
@williamstackler6721
@williamstackler6721 7 лет назад
What were the WWI bolt action rifles called. I was at a tiny private museum in Florida where they let us handle pretty much every relatively well known historical military guns from WWI through Vietnam. There was a variety of similar bolt action single shot rifles, from france, England, US, and others. Any ideas on what they are called? they were fascinating and were in perfect condition.
@djwoody1649
@djwoody1649 7 лет назад
Can you grab a NZ carbine? They're pretty rare and it'd be great to see your breakdown of one!
@corinhings177
@corinhings177 7 лет назад
that was NZ's 15 min of fame on this channel lol.
@djwoody1649
@djwoody1649 7 лет назад
Right on! Whenever NZ is mentioned any where a Kiwi is cheering about it somewhere! I'm not a Kiwi, more a Briwi as I migrated to NZ but that is certainly one thing you pick up from the culture here.
@someduckwithanultimax6549
@someduckwithanultimax6549 7 лет назад
Do ordinary 10-round SMLE magazines fit in these and vice verse?
@astondriver
@astondriver 7 лет назад
NZEF used them in South Africa in the Boer war, after their Martini actioned carbine.
@empiricalmadman3260
@empiricalmadman3260 7 лет назад
So whats the "19.5 tons per □" stamping mean? Is it that a crate of these will weigh 19.5 tons, and, if so, does that mean there was a standardized crate size?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 лет назад
Square inch. Clever, eh? :)
@empiricalmadman3260
@empiricalmadman3260 7 лет назад
Forgotten Weapons Pretty crazy, I have never heard of a firearm having its surface area related to its weight. Make sense I suppose, easier to figure how much stuff will fit in a given area.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 лет назад
It's a measure of the chamber pressure, not anything external. 19.5 tons is equal to 38000 PSI, which was the chamber pressure for Mk VII .303 British ball.
@empiricalmadman3260
@empiricalmadman3260 7 лет назад
Forgotten Weapons Ah, that makes more sense, thanks for explaining it to a simpleton like myself.
@GrasshopperKelly
@GrasshopperKelly 2 года назад
1:00 *Chuckles in Independence*
@richardanderson2742
@richardanderson2742 3 года назад
Good move sidestepping politics there. While RIC carbines are relatively rare, I've handled a few and own one. Wood damage and corrosion under the wood seem the norm, but I've never seen one with a bad bore. I assume sewer pipe barrels were replaced in the rebuild or alternatively the little carbine's recoil might have kept use down somewhat throughout their service life......and certainly suppressed follow-on civilian use. Cute yes......shoulder friendly no!
@ronandooley9082
@ronandooley9082 7 лет назад
Come out ye Black and Tans come fight me like a man
@Bunters196
@Bunters196 7 лет назад
*never actually comes out to fight the British like men*
@pmcl3616
@pmcl3616 7 лет назад
RIC not Black & Tans
@Uyarasuk
@Uyarasuk 7 лет назад
Black & Tans were part of the RIC. They were the Royal Irish Constabulary Special Reserve.
@pmcl3616
@pmcl3616 7 лет назад
Yeah but im talking about the regular/old Irish RIC. Sorry for the confusion Uyarasuk. :)
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393
IRA fought more like men than the coward british who targeted mostly civilians and when the ira came in they ran back to their barracks because they were to scared to fight when the numbers were even.
@stephenbond1990
@stephenbond1990 7 лет назад
There was a batch done in 1913? But i read somewhere that they were withdrawn in 1910 when the 303 mk VII was introduced along with the Mk VI?
@rosanna3765
@rosanna3765 7 лет назад
Drools. Politics aside, I love history!
@SearTrip
@SearTrip 7 лет назад
Somewhere I have a photo of Latvian cavalry from the 1920s with LE carbines with Patt 88 bayonet lugs. Unable to see from the picture if they have the RIC fore-end swell or not. I wonder if they were RIC, NZ, or other?
@Hispanicpanick0
@Hispanicpanick0 7 лет назад
There's a union Jack carved in the stock right next to the RIC medallion! Wonder what's the story about that.
@TimoMomo
@TimoMomo 5 лет назад
Well Ireland was part of Great Britain at the time.
@chriswarren1618
@chriswarren1618 5 лет назад
But RIC is definitely on Butt plate. I guess I learned something new.
@ETKninja
@ETKninja 7 лет назад
good idea not getting into our politics!
@Uyarasuk
@Uyarasuk 7 лет назад
That didn't stop the commenters from getting into it though.
@snipper1ie
@snipper1ie 5 лет назад
@@julianshepherd2038 The English make all the decisions and always have.
@kingnothing3523
@kingnothing3523 4 года назад
Let's not talk about the politics. Let's just look at this lovely rifle that may have been used by a Black-and-Tan to shoot at Irish civilians
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 4 года назад
@@kingnothing3523 If you think that way why are you even here? MOST of the rifles shown on FW are military...many of which would have been used to "shoot at " And the evils (or otherwise) of the regimes that produced those rifles are not discussed either. So, what's your point?
@corditechewer
@corditechewer 3 года назад
@@kingnothing3523 do you also have a problem with seeing WW2 German, Japanese or Soviet firearms that may have been used to execute civilians? Sounds like you’re a republican, do you know that most of the IRAs firearms were captured from the RIC and the army? Surely you’d like this rifle.
@sheevinit1490
@sheevinit1490 7 лет назад
You should do the Erma EMP if you haven't already.
@MrReded69
@MrReded69 7 лет назад
Hey Ian, do you know why they exchanged the 8-10 round magazines for 6 round ones? I used to think it was so it could fit into some kind of saddle carbine but as it has sling swivels that isn't likely. Also do you know if the RIC ever modified these by removing the dust covers, adding charger guides and SMLE mags? Perhaps during the Anglo-Irish War? I know they probably just replaced them with SMLEs but that would look so cool from a Gungeek viewpoint!
@rodrigogascagomez5190
@rodrigogascagomez5190 5 лет назад
MrReded69 And, could a 10rd magazine be used on one of these, or did they do something to prevent such a thing?
@ludo9234
@ludo9234 7 лет назад
Nice video ian but it's very quiet up untill you brought the camera back.
@ianhennmainmastconservatio5736
Don't think your comment about British carbines not using bayonets is totally correct, cavalry carbines didn't, but artillery carbines did.
@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming
@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming 7 лет назад
Didn't someone find a small arsenal of them in the back of an irish church a few years ago? Thought to have been an IRA Cache
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393
your profile picture is disgusting
@BarneyStoleMyKids
@BarneyStoleMyKids 7 лет назад
Any chance you could get your hands on an AR-18? I've seen plenty of videos on the AR-180 but none on the select fire original.
@thewiezman
@thewiezman 7 лет назад
So much work just to put a bayonet on. Doesn't make me feel so dumb about wanting to rescue a Mak 90 into a 56 spiker
@darthtruk7206
@darthtruk7206 7 лет назад
This was before the acceptance of the spitzer cartridge right?
@colonelsanders104
@colonelsanders104 7 лет назад
Hello Ian. Can you make a next time a review on a Long Branch Lightened N°4 ? Best Regard.
@Genevasuggestions1
@Genevasuggestions1 7 лет назад
Is this not a variant of the lee metford? I see the DNA of it in the action.
@wallaroo1295
@wallaroo1295 4 года назад
Does anybody know anything about the "Irish Blondes?" I think there is a whole lot of "Ermagersh!" regarding the Irish Blondes. Mine is in near perfect mechanical condition, and cleaned up - yup, absolutely a "blonde." SN confirmed. While pretty, I don't think they are all that beyond looks.
@rlbadger1698
@rlbadger1698 7 лет назад
This is a nice collection. Hey Ian how about the Swiss Vetterli Model 1869 Rifle? Or maybe feed my pinfire fetish? There's a whole bunch of pinfire pepper boxes up. Lots 4312, 283, 6177. Or the "hand cannon?(2356)?
@pakman422
@pakman422 7 лет назад
Rl Badger I agree but Ian decides on what guns he is gonna do vids on before he gets there. RIA sends him a list of all the guns before he leaves for the auction house.
@hokmdar8973
@hokmdar8973 7 лет назад
Royal and Irish are usually two words that don't go well together.
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 7 лет назад
RIC, RUC, BBC...:)
@WhatChaMaCalum
@WhatChaMaCalum 7 лет назад
Colum Peel Royal Irish regiment in the British Army.
@hokmdar8973
@hokmdar8973 7 лет назад
i am also from the province of ulster
@WhatChaMaCalum
@WhatChaMaCalum 7 лет назад
hokmdar Then it shouldn't come as a surprise to see those two words combined.
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 7 лет назад
It isn't, but like Stroke City, some see it different.
@jordanisiah24
@jordanisiah24 7 лет назад
will you ever make a video about the ppsh family ?
@bigmal1690
@bigmal1690 7 лет назад
did the B men use these too?
@TimoMomo
@TimoMomo 5 лет назад
They had MKIII'S possibly I think.
@thomaskwei9119
@thomaskwei9119 6 лет назад
What bayonets did these rifles take? The pattern 1888?
@willrun4fun
@willrun4fun 7 лет назад
The audio is very low level on this one. Really had to crank it up to hear you.
@michaelking8483
@michaelking8483 7 лет назад
i still say make a video of the different lee enfields, lee metfords, SMLEs
@9999ace99
@9999ace99 7 лет назад
Would you be able to use modern .303 ammo in this?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 лет назад
Sure.
@BennettIsAmazing
@BennettIsAmazing 7 лет назад
But they wouldn't shoot that accurately to the sights as all LEs (be they CLLEs to SMLEs) had to be re-sighted with the advent of MkVII 'spitzer' .303 - that said, this might have already taken place with this carbine?
@mediocrefunkybeat
@mediocrefunkybeat 7 лет назад
Yes - which is makes them difficult to own and handle in the UK without a very specific licence. Technically the .303 is not an 'obsolete' round by UK law so it does not qualify as an historical firearm in the legal sense.
@lmyrski8385
@lmyrski8385 4 года назад
What about the New Zealand carbine. They're very similar, but better and rarerer!
@factsoftheconfederacy7151
@factsoftheconfederacy7151 5 лет назад
Hey, could you do a video on Fianna Fáil rifles? I have one, but I personally can’t find any info on them.
@strawdog291
@strawdog291 5 месяцев назад
The circle with the double F stamping was on weapons obtained by the Irish Free State from the British immediately after the Treaty was signed, there was another consignment sent at the start of the civil war. Fianna Fáil (Soldiers of Destiny) came from the Irish Volunteers of 1916, it is still used by the Irish Defence Forces today on their cap badges.
@JoePani1
@JoePani1 7 лет назад
My father in law had an RIC rifle but it I don't remember it as a carbine. Did they have full size rifles?
@TimoMomo
@TimoMomo 5 лет назад
Yes.
@Sshooter444
@Sshooter444 7 лет назад
I have one that i believe is a Metford. What is the estimated value of these?
@mattwri6176
@mattwri6176 7 лет назад
Could one use modern smokeless powder 303 ammo in this rifle?
@sebathadah1559
@sebathadah1559 7 лет назад
first like second comment. thats a fine rifle.
@gruntabro1
@gruntabro1 6 лет назад
New zealand ! Nice nice
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