In full context, he was comparing how FCW was to NXT. Nothing "changed" it was just two shows that were run by entirely different people, and how the backstage was reflected that. FCW was run by Steve Keirn, while NXT was run by Triple H. Keirn is known for the old school mentality of the 80s, so it's understandable why he was huge about stuff like wrestlers gathering around the ring and such.
Kam Fisher He did it in the 90’s. RVD was top 5 of PWI 500 98,99,2000. He hung out in the parking lot at those ECW shows. He has always beat to rhythm of his own drum.
@@kamfisher1714 Get his ass beat...for not being in the locker room? lol. I don't think anyone would ever care that another wrestler isnt taking up space in the locker room, they get pissed for misconduct when you ARE there. What kind of a weirdo would give a fuck because another man doesn't change in the same room as him.
@@chickenchad9814 yeah, actually that's a perfect way of describing it. It sounds like something a drama queen on a tv show would say "the red outline of these curtains strains my eye, I want the person who put them up fired"
Daniel Bryan told a great story like this in his book. When he was one of the NXT Rookies on the game show version of NXT back in 2010, he was once assigned an aisle seat on a plane. Since it made getting up from and returning to one's seat easier during the flights, aisle seats were usually reserved for more featured talent. Ezekiel Jackson, who was given a window seat, apparently tried to pull rank and rudely demanded that the rookie Bryan switch seats with him. Bryan replied that if he just asked nicely, he would have gladly switched seats with him...but now, he wouldn't. Jackson got pissed, and William Regal, who witnessed the exchange and has been a mentor to Bryan for years, stood up and got in Jackson's face, yelling, "Do you have any idea who you're talking to? This man has more talent in his pinky finger, than you have in your whole body!" Jackson slunk off back to his window seat, and Bryan switched seats with someone else instead.
@@govardhanposina17 It wasn't mentioned in an interview (to my knowledge), but Daniel Bryan spoke about it in his autobiography, "YES! My Improbable Journey to the Main Event of WrestleMania."
Even sneezing in front of Vince is a risky move. According to Paul Heyman, Vince once sneezed in front of him and was mortified by it lol. Vince couldn't believe that he lost control like that.
I think cena took to many chair shots to his head his self now hes out doin commercials his run in the wwe must of been over or did the chair shots take over him
Lee John You’re not a wrestler or know anything about wrestling or the wrestling business. If you don’t like wrestling why are you here ? If you don’t like WWE why are you here? What to agree with your fellow smarks that are more than likely dirtsheet readers. They watch what culture, jd from New York and solomonster. You’re wannabe fantasy booking smarks.
If you want rules write them down and let people know them. Don't keep them secret and be a dick if they get them wrong. If you enforced rules properly you could probably keep them.
Yeah but because they're narcissists, They want new people to fuck up so they have someone to bully about it, Because these are all insecure dicks who live in a bubble with no real social skills of understanding of conduct.
@@MarlonAnthony and it's sad cause this happens only in the wrestling business. You don't hear about this shit in the NFL or NBA. Just a bunch of insecure old men who create a toxic work environment because they're unhappy with themselves.
@@smileykid18 Yeah that's because those places are well regulated by state athletic commissions & governing bodies as well as oh yeah, those athletes are also employees too.
@@smileykid18 Actually, this type of thing is commonplace in NFL and NBA lockerooms. Ever heard of rookie hazing? Or the Johnathan Martin scandal? It's a jock thing I guess....
@@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats Yeah, but wrestling's rules are totally fucking stupid. You'd think wrestlers would be these badasses who can put up with anything, but instead they get offended if you don't shake everyone's hand in the right way, in the right order. And that's just one of about 50 stupid fucking rules.
It's called change of times. Those old school rules of making a big deal out of nothing don't exist anymore because everyone smartened up and realized that there's no point to take yourself that seriously
Is that really what they meant? I thought the ice was like seen as a weakness thing, like "Oh youve only been on the road 3 days and you need ice? Good luck with your career pal". Seems insane to me that they would run out of ice but thats hilarious if thats really what it is.
His moments with Alberto were so good, the announcement, the table bump in the tlc match and when he pulled up in that old ass car for the Royal rumble. Awesome times
Wrestling has always been like this. People trying to “rib” each other when all they do is hurt someone’s feelings. Piper talked about it when he first performed in MSG. He walked out and couldn’t play the bagpipes because they stuffed each pipe with paper. You can easily tell that it fucked Piper up that his “peers” would try so hard to make him look bad
Aleister Black said he would always clean the locker rooms, take out the garbage, made sure people had water etc And one day roman and black were talking with each other, Roman said "I don’t want you cleaning the lockerrooms anymore.” “I want you to understand that you belong here and I want for you to kill it every night and be part of the team, that’s all I care about."
@mak0321 nah honestly multiple people say Roman has taking charge in the back for the new generation. Like him or not in terms of TV presence, merch sales and locker room leadership hes the current John Cena/Undertaker
Seth and I think Roman have called themselves locker room leaders, which tells you enough they're not leaders. It's only because there's NO veterans left, so as the golden boys they just automatically take that role. I suspect AJ is more of a leader and Ziggler more a general than anyone else in real terms. Randy would be, but he gives no Fs.
TroystonB no they should not. That’s not how it works. You show up, and do your job. You don’t let your position go to your head. That’s how children think. These are adults.
"It sucks because those dumb rules that made no sense arent there anymore and I went throught that. So the new guys need to suffer like I did." Great guy...
@@troywilson4694 Not really, their rules were ridiculous, though. If you're telling me the masseuse is for everybody, why should I get heat for using the service😑
@@wesmyone9562 Bro no doubt some of that shit was straight up stupid, but, like Dolph almost changing in the hallway and the boys themselves not being able to just say hey One of you new cats needs to make room for the champion is what I'm talking about. That other shit is petty but I understand the paying dues mentality as well.
I'm seeing people side with Cena in regards to Rollins icing up his neck... Y'all do know that Rollins had long been in the game prior to main roster Wwe right? Dude is probably aware of some of the warning signs his body is telling him. It's just his Twitter that should be monitored 😅
Vince really had his guys thinking that if you hadn’t started in the WWE, you were a complete noob. Dudes who had spent 10+ years wrestling across the globe, carrying international numbers Vince and Co. could never, got shunted to the back because of entitled folk who lucked out and signed with the “right” company. The WCW invasion angle is a prime example of just how self-referential WWE could be. And I feel for buddy that he got hazed by the old heads, but that doesn’t mean he’s gotta applaud and perpetuate it. If we’re both employees, we’re both employees, and I’m not inclined to b*tch myself just to make you feel special.
That's toxic wwe for yeah i kinda understand obviously top guy's have more of a special place but all the Asshole shit is unnecessary...in the end of the day they are all cogs in the machine
That's idiotic to me that using an ice pack is considered bad some how. It's preventing swelling and helping avoid future injuries. Commons sense that regardless of how many matches you have had you need to take care of your body above all else.
The amount of people that sound like they worship these celebrities and wrestlers in the comments is hilarious. You guys act like they’re bullet proof or invincible, sad.
Imagine being upset because someone has an ice pack on their body.. Screw Cena.. Rollins was a road warrior who traveled the indies. He paid his dues more than Cena who was basically WWE homegrown..
@@extremepop324 I meant the culture backstage has changed it’s no longer super political and cutthroat amongst the wrestlers in the locker room and there’s basically no more hazing the new guys like it used to be.
@@collixioncowboy oh then yeah you right. All that "clique" mentality is bullshit. Even if you aren't part of my circle of friends, I'd still want you to succeed.
@@KeroZ25Z I imagine it’s still competitive amongst the locker room to go out and steal the show and push forward their respective careers but from what i’ve read from returning wrestlers to wwe that the culture backstage is a lot friendlier than it was years even decades ago to the point where legends like steve austin think the roster are soft probably because the culture backstage is different compared to let’s say the attitude era but obviously I can’t say 100% for sure because i’m not there.
I'm actually happy it changes, much less toxic. Most guys who've been in both locker rooms always talk about how much better it is now. And it wouldn't make much sense today either cause most of the "new guys" Today have already been around for over 10-15 years and know the top guys from their indie days.
"Hey Cena and Orton, are you gonna pay my bills if I injure myself because I didn't do something as simple as using a fucking ice pack? Okay just checking."
“Hey fickle fans are going to pay my bills when you start booing and going on the internet being a wannabe fantasy bookers crying about booking decisions? Okay just checking.”
This guy completely blew it, he will never be back in the WWE. I went to High School with his sister (Cindy Rodriguez), I remember the other kids would throw stuff at her in Photoshop class lmao
I think it's a toughness thing. Like you only had 3 matches so why do you need ice type of thing. These dumb lockeroom rules are stupid if you ask me . All it does is make the boys look like petty little bitches
@@luv2eatpuss79 cena is on roids and hgh which increase recovery and reduce injury time so its easy for him to say he's tough when he's so doped up he wouldn't feel a mack truck
They weren't. I think it was Ivory who said all the usual 'pranksters' and enforcers like JBL didn't dare to mess with Brock and would fawn over him instead. Brock didn't know anything about the ww(f)e and didn't give a shit about it enough to care about impressing people or even keeping his job and he was able to physically stand up for himself too. I think the only one who ribbed him was Curt Hennig and Brock actually became good friends with him.
WWE is such a weird environment. Its more like a reform school than a professional wrestling company with a bunch of overpaid babies trying to bring you down behind the scenes.
Could lower card guys use the toilet or did they have to dig a latrine outside. Or if they were allowed to use the toilet what were top guy's stance on toilet paper?
I wish i spent more time trying to complete my training. I "had" to change out in a hallway once because i knew etiquette and i was never invited yet in the locker room. Nick Dinsmore comes up hand on my shoulder and says "hey whatcha doing? come with me your one of the boys you get dressed in here" fuck i was mesmerized. i just said yes sir and followed him in didnt look around avoided every opportunity to mark out. got changed and got the fuck out. I have a small panic attack now thinking of it but i will never forget and always will appreciate Nick Dinsmore. He didn't have to do that. I was and am a nobody but he did and that was great. Thing about wrestlers are is most of them are just in this "Shell" of comfort to be anything they want so its easy to think you will offend or whatever. But i learned that with those rules come respect. If they really dont give a fuck about you and dont like you they wont teach you, youll just get booted. But if they like you and see something they will guide you but its not like they can hand you a manual you have to balance learning on the fly and respecting because thats what it takes in the ring
What about greeting everyone normally like hey guys how are you and just get on with your stuff like changing etc? I ask because you say you didn't look at no one or no where, isn't that putting yourself on a stressful situation without need?
@@angelnava5385 It was about respect to everyone else. Say i glance across and i see abduhla the butcher (he was there) say i get stuck in a mark out moment (trust me it happens even if you say it wont it takes a split second for your brain to stop you and boom your staring without realizing it cause you went of in your mind). As far as "putting myself" in the situation again in the backstage respect is big. Nick brought me in there was no way I could say no. Im sure i probably said something like "i shouldnt or its ok" but at that moment it wasnt about what i wanted its what the boys wanted. Wrestling backstage is odd. Alot of unwritten rules. No not all of them are kept today an alot of those backstage things have changed since then its been about 10yrs since my experience and back then hazing was still big. Also tbh if i was to try and walk around and greet everyone i would of crowded an over crowded dressing room. Like this was a small high school locker room. Even the shield got shit for taking up too much space in locker rooms. Last thing i was going to do is go interrupt everyone planning their matches an getting dressed. Yes there is etiquette to shake everyone's hand, but in my position i was not in the situation to take more time there just to say hello. Plus tbh i was like 21ish at the time. Im surrounded by physically larger than life half naked men i didn't know...it was a tad uncomfortable. So i had to make the quick decision to thank Nick but i couldn't stay. I ended up splitting tickets at the front with Gangrel for a bit. BTW gangrel also one of the most down to earth nicest and honest guys i have ever met. If i were to be a worker on the card that night i would of been in a better position to introduce myself. And maybe that was my opportunity and they were throwing me a bone. But i was too green to the business overall to even accept it properly and feel justied to take any of their time because TBH i would have stuttered and probably froze up at a few of them. Hell I cant say i was a big eugene fan. But even Nick/Eugene had me awestruck. Only person i met that i actually clicked for a minute with and prob cause i thought he was an newbie like me was Jodi Kristofferson
@@rvds0804 Thanks for your reply Michael, I understand what you mean now. TBH it would be really hard to not get starstruck by being in the same room with these guys, we are all fans deep down, even if we end working with them. I've heard that side of Gangrel before, and it sure shows on some interviews.
@@KBlade1 Yes I agree with that. It’s like bands now have no talent and are liked by a bunch of stupid clueless millennial kids. While back then it was harder to make it in the big leagues when it came to music. Now it’s just a popularity contest, it’s almost like it has nothing to do with the music itself.
V9 too angelic But you wouldn’t either...stop with this fake tough shit. Why people are afraid of another man that bleeds just like the rest of us is insane to me...
That's such a cuck/pc term thats the kind of shit that's making wrestling look gay. Be a man and don't cry about "toxic environments" like if everywhere you go needs to be catered to you.
I think I heard some interview or maybe I read an article that said that Reigns is the new locker room leader the way Undertaker was, though I'm sure "wrestlers' court" probably isn't a thing anymore? I could be wrong.
@@theworldisimmense I was absolutely no fan of babyface Reigns but this isn't exactly something that is decided by fan democracy. Locker room leaders become locker room leaders based on the respect of the locker room and I have not yet heard anybody in the industry have a single bad word to say about Joe Anoa'i. Again, I heard it once, can't stand by it as 100% fact, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me, whether I like him or not.
@@theworldisimmense To verify, do a Google search for "Roman Reigns locker room leader" and you'll find various accounts of wrestler shoots where they name Reigns as a locker room leader. Maybe (almost certainly) not of the stature of Undertaker, but he is definitely one of the guys who take up the responsibility.
At a house show in Erie PA years ago, before I even saw Seth Rollins on NXT Like had no idea who he was with generic music and everything. Do 3 outside dive sentons in less than 2 mins on 3 different people. Cena doesn’t put that much risk on himself. Especially not at a non televised event. So give the guy an ice pack and tell Cena to stfu.
Everybody repeats themselves without even realizing it. Examples are "you know" after every few words. Or "He was like" or " she was like" It's annoying but people do it all the time
Becoming a pro wrestler sounds cool until you hear ridiculous things like this. Your job can end because one person says you have a bad attitude or they just don't like you.
I think it was top dolla or someone else who was recently released made a statement about how they were released. Wwe said it was because of “conflicts/issues backstage” or being hard to work with & the released wrestler basically debunked that saying “being hard to work with just means sticking up for yourself & people at the top not liking that”. You literally can lose your job here for any small and pety reason. Glad it’s not the only wrestling company
@@whisperienced lol, is there any shoots of wrestlers talking about the female locker room rules on RU-vid? on second thought never mind I take your word.
@@lashawnc.9658 thanks ✌I will check it out. I always wanted to know about the female wrestlers locker room rules, if you find any more shoots on locker room rules let me know thanks👍
Most workplaces are like this. Its like how weak people hold onto fictiona status. Last job I had, half the guys wouldn't even talk to me for over a month and on a couple occasions went out of their way to make the other new guy and I look like Jabronis, flat out leaving job sites to have us to their work while they did god knows what. Funny thing was, this shit only got heat on them for a short time, and pretty soon they realized that having us around doing our job actually made their day easier. Its so petty. I've never done this crap to anyone.
Sorry to tell you, but its literally not different anywhere else. That’s the immature world we live in today, so you’re just going to have to deal with it and move on your own accord. Who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks or says cuz you are invalidated by them also.
"All these unspoken rules went out the window and now we can't just be dickheads to new people for literally no reason other than because they're new and have no idea about these dumbass "rules" we made for ourselves and that's really not fair."
Just goes to show Wrestlers literally have nothing better to do but look for things to get pissy about.... All the steroids either make them short tempered or pump up their estrogen when they are off a cycle so they are basically women.
Paul Williams You sound like you worship celebrities so that’s sad. Why are you afraid of another person that bleeds just like you? Also they’d beat your ass so what’s your point?
@@heyyo7431 Kick my ass? What does that have to do with what I said? At all?... Literally the fact that they might be able to "kick my ass" is irrelevant to the fact that they are some petty ass people with their "locker room rules" which are unwritten and childish... And I stand by what I said the various chemicals they inject into themselves have messed with their hormone levels and turned them into petulant children, and catty women.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt Yes I heard about that. What I mean is that guys like Bob Holly only gonna pick on the guys that they know they can pick on. Let's see them push around someone like Brock, Lashley.
I don't care about locker room rules or who the top guy is, if I need a ice pack then I'm using a ice pack regardless, even if Vince came up to me like cena asking about ice pack I couldn't bite my tongue I would need to say well if I can recover my body properly when I'm not in the ring that means when I am in the ring I can work harder.
I mean constantly hearing stories like this and how Vince Mcmahon is. Why in the hell would anyone want to work for the WWE??? IDGAF about the money. There's NO WAY in hell I would want to work for this company.
@@kamfisher1714 wtf does him not wanting to work for a company have to do with watching a video about said company??? That's like saying someone's not allowed to not wanna work at Walmart and be able to shop there as well.
Ace Cashman It’s funny because there’s a bunch of videos that are positive about Vince and WWE but when it comes to you guys it doesn’t fit your narrative.
Just a subtle rib that for the time Seth had been there he shouldnt need to be treating injuries or at least CONSPICIOUSLY doing do vs a guy like Cena who has been there forever.
I don't agree with what he said at the end about the nxt guys and there not being any rules. For example now you're not going to get anyone looking down on the new person coming in and picking on them like what used to happen with The Miz and the rest of the locker room in '06. I think back in the day the "top guys" got off on seeing a new guy come in and giving them a hard time about messing up "the rules".
exactly. the hardy boys told a story on table for 3 about how they accidentally got dressed in undertakers dressing room because they were late to get to the venue and got their bags tossed in the garbage as payback for doing it. like who would want stuff like that to still happen when it sounds like a much more positive environment nowadays that everyone knows each other from the indies/developmental, you never hear stuff anymore about backstage bullying or “wrestlers court” which is great.
Certain things needed to change; no one's job or career growth should be fucked with simply because they stood up to someone who went out of their way like some desperately teenage "alpha" to fuck with them.