Rich Eisen: A Pitch Clock Would’ve Ruined Epic Ohtani vs Trout WBC Ending | The Rich Eisen Show 

u need to reduce the number of games in the season as well

@@OMG-si3wn agreed. Do we really need 162games to determine who’s the winner of a division? Make the games more meaningful and more people would come to the games. Too many meaningless games in mlb

@@OMG-si3wn reducing the number of games will mess with stats and it will lose mlb money. One of the reasons mlb is the second highest grossing league is because of the number of games that are played. One of the things people like about baseball is there’s a game to watch every day. Aaron judges 62 hr was the biggest storyline last season. The number of games isn’t the problem. Fans want to see baseball but they want to see exciting baseball not boring slow paced drawn out baseball

The Angels have added some great players, but to win it all.....well, that's something else. But, we never know.

Exactly someone gets it. Comparing what you know to something we've never seen and saying the one you know is more visceral or emotional as an argument is beyond dumb. Come back in five years and make your case. Come back in 30 and watch everyone look at you like a caveman wanting to go back to the "good old" days that none of them really remember....even the older ones.

Rich only mentioned it once, I think, during his pitch clock rant, but he said something along the lines of turning it off in the 9th inning or in a save situation. So we could have pitch clock for the "boring" parts of the game to move it along, and then turn it off for the last inning. That sounds like a good compromise to me so we can still get rare at-bats like this one while also moving along the slog of the middle innings.

@@gustafsone Nah. Inconsistent pace gonna give away the advantage. Can't just suddenly turn the clock off. Rich's entire rant is based off the assumption that with a clock, the finale wouldn't have turned out the exact same way. Yeah, every pitch would have been a violation. But that doesn't mean that with a clock, the same sequence of event wouldn't have happened anyway, just faster.

do away with the pitch clock in the post season is what i say.

Not every pitcher is Ohtani and not every batter is Trout. We are clear! But the situations, closing pitcher vs last batter, reliever vs pinch hitter with runners in scoring positions. Clock is gonna turn them meaningless. Deprive them of the human factor. Man vs Man, now is the rule of the machine and commerce.

@@gustafsone When someone says the "boring" parts, all I hear is casual fan.

Pitch clock would ruin the pace of suspense in the ninth say it out loud if you have to

I mean he did say to turn it off only in the 9th. So he’s not really contradicting himself

How is pre-clock baseball “unwatchable?”

I get it your not a baseball first fan and that’s cool, but don’t change a game you never intend to be your #1 favorite sport.

He's only calling for it to be turned off in the 9th or in save situations.

Stop it! They will face each other again, ohtani getting traded

How about do that for the regular season too? If their speeding up the game, why do the late innings need to be rushed? The game was sped up to get to a conclusion faster not to rush the conclusion itself.

It’s completely different. American football and basketball are timed games, baseball is not.

@@jamesmnaylor the play clock and shot clock have nothing to do with the duration of the game. All three clocks are there to speed up play. They're about pace not overall duration.

Rich needs to get over it. Baseball has been hemorrhaging fans. The clock is long overdue. A 2-1 baseball game shouldn’t be 4 hours.

@@Scotter4536 of course they do. Do you want to watch a game in which team A always has the ball for 2/3 minutes straight passing between themselves (in basketball) or not snapping the ball for 4 minutes. In baseball a team is always going to pitch 9 innings and bat 9 innings and a pitch clock isn’t going to stop either team doing that. It’s there only to speed up the game to make it less enjoyable because now it goes to quickly. I get they want to bring in Casual fans. But they are doing it at the expense of fans who have enjoyed the game as is for years.

It is actually very similar to the shot clock in tennis, both sports share that 1-on-1 situation.

How do you know it wouldn't have been the exact same with a clock? Just faster.

It's like an edging orgasm. Drawing it out makes the outcome all the more satisfying ;)

the truth is you don't really know. People adapt. The reason we think that way is because we are used to it being done a certain way.

Not true. Go back and watch a game from the 80's or earlier. Pitchers worked much faster and the hitters didn't primp inside and outside of the box. It has nothing to do with attention spans or a younger generation, the game has slowed down tremendously. Combine that with the fact that there are much fewer balls-in-play, you get a boring game. MLB is doing the right thing and the increase in ratings and attendances will reflect that.

Casual fan will keep this sport alive.

the pitch clock wont fix baseballs viewership problem

Interesting

Everybody knows the rules. You striking out because of the pitch clock is because of a lack of awareness which contributes to the pre pitch clock problem of 90% of people not even paying attention to the game because of the lackadaisical pace

This will be a failed experiment. The pitch clock most likely will result into more pitchers getting injured.

@@cryptointuition5052 this is the pace that games we’re being in the 70s and 80s and nobody arms were falling off and guess what baseball was way more popular then

@Westhood Qualzini yes, but times have changed. They were never really pressured under clock regimes. This is a different era in which pitchers are throwing harder than ever. There are hardly any specialists left like knuckle ballers. Commercials are longer. In between breaks are taking longer, coinciding with slower warm-ups. Teams are scoring more runs than ever, lengthening the game. Umpires taking longer to call the ball. There are more pitcher changes, lengthening the game. Back in that era, it was common for pitchers to pitch more innings. Some pitchers are just natural slow. It is their natural pace. You disturb that pace, he will be more prone to injuries. There's a technical strike zone and the one Umpires use. Therefore, more balls are called that actually is, leading to walks. There is also the video review challenge, which also adds more to time. This pitch clock is equivalent to lessening the natural pace of 30 minutes, but if factors of how baseball actually changed, it is more equivalent to making the game in the 1970s 2 hours instead of 2 hours and 30 minutes. The 30 minutes that made the games longer are a combination of many more things, not just the doing of pitchers.

The places it's been tested very thoroughly disagree with that. There weren't any increases in injuries.

I'd like to see an actual instance of high stakes at bats play out with the pitch clock before we say that it's going to ruin anything. If anything it might make it even better, because it adds another element to the at bat that both sides have to worry about.

Yeah exactly. So 8 innings of slow snail paced methodical baseball instead of 9. That’ll bring in fans and totally not destroy historical stats

Unless you're, you know. His age.

Yes because we as fans want more dead time and slower action but just for the 9th inning

Their worth millions of dollars because of fans and no fans besides you and the 80 year old down the street want to watch a snail pace of a game. I’ve never seen another sports fan base argue for slower action and more dead time. It’s mind boggling

@@westhoodqualzini7884 It's they're as in "they are" not their. Hey go ahead and enjoy the new fast paced baseball that's your choice.

@@nubopgritty634 criticism of grammar in a meaningless RU-vid thread is basically code word for I have no response to the subject so let me deflect. Also yes I will enjoy fast paced baseball. I want to see more baseball and less dead time and slow action unlike you

@@westhoodqualzini7884 It's not grammar, it's using the wrong word. I guess I'm just more educated than you are. I don't need to respond to what you said as I have zero interest debating you and zero animosity towards you. So please enjoy the new baseball.

Agreed

No they actually shouldn’t. The rule isn’t gonna be set in stone and never tweaked. The playoffs could be slowed down because every pitch in AB is must see

@@97NikeSb WBC added more relevance to baseball than MLB has ever done. Look at the Viewership, pitch clock rule is just gonna ruin the game

@@jonabundis2764 because the WBC showcased countries with stars up and down and showed how much passion and fun these guys were having. Also it helped that most games were very offense driven instead of pitching duels. The new rules will bring more stolen base attempts, more hits, and more runs. That’s what drives the game not whining over the run time.

@@jonabundis2764 also other countries had farrrr better viewerships numbers than the US because a lot of morons said it was an exhibition tournament. The world was more invested in America’s game. Lastly, you and I both don’t know how this’ll play out. The regular season hasn’t even started so we won’t know how it’ll effect the game. I’d rather be optimistic because it’s trending towards being in a better spot

@@97NikeSb dude everyone wants the pitch clock out. Tf you talkin about😂 you might be the only one who’s okay wit that bs. If you can’t watch a baseball game being played the way it’s been played forever. Then don’t bother watching the game…

The game was faster in the 60's, 70's, and 80's, before the internet and way before social media. Not coincidentally, the ratings and attendances were higher as well.

Oh, right- live betting is more important than the game.

no. they really need to do away with it in the post season.

Something about the W BC that is unlike even the postseason is that it was single elimination. Making an adjustment to both a half-inning that could end the game or games that could end the series IMO would be worth looking into.