Rich Eisen: USC & UCLA to the Big Ten Is 1st Step in the Creation of a College Football Super League 

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Pretty much. The only stickler is how they get rid of schools like Vanderbilt and Northwestern.

Yep - it boils down to a battle between FOX Sports and ABC/ESPN. Fox has the expanding Big 10 and ABC/ESPN controls the top conference in the SEC. All future decisions will be driven primarily by TV ratings and what kind of TV numbers a team can draw. They will also consider many other factors, but they will start with TV ratings when all is said and done.

It's not gonna be that simple. There's always gonna be somebody that wants in.

this was my thought too.

ND fan here....I kinda agree in the sense that youre gonna have to be a conference champion to get a spot in the CFP....but I don't think theyre gonna do it, not for a long time. theyre still making a ton of money from their NBC deal, so they don't need it really. It's just gonna force us to start playing real teams, not some of these bottom of the barrel teams that weve been scheduling recently. I really hope we don't go to the ACC, but all our other sports are there so we better get used to playing Virginia and Wake Forest every year instead of Mich, Mich St, OSU, etc

Should of joined the Big Ten ND. Was the best conference for them.

@@hrs1414 The way this thing is headed, the only teams in the playoff will be part of the B1G or the SEC. I guarantee you the ADs of Oregon, Washington, etc will be putting feelers out for the B1G right now. If more join, then ACC schools to start doing the same with the SEC. North, Midwest, and Pacific West to the B1G. South and Southwest to SEC. It's going to happen and those who hesitate might be left behind. Everyone else is going to have to form a playoff for themselves.

ND is overrated but they need to pick a side now!

Norte Dame in the Big 10 now would be golden! No pun, but with USC and Notre Dame in the same conference in football, He’ll yes!

pac 12 is dead UW and Oregon need to jump ship now

@@shigeolincolntaco Where would they go tho? One to SEC one to Big10?

@@jakes1677 It's B10 or bust at this point the pac is dead with no LA schools in the conference it's over

@@jakes1677 big ten won’t take both only one and notre dame

@@jakes1677 Big 12?

Nope/ it’s evolution baby

It’s a dying sport. Boomers being main audience are slowly dying off

@@jorgy1470 Nice PJ reference, but this is 100% the path to eventual extinction.

@@alia1824 college students are the main audience for college sports obviously, not boomers. I don’t know where you would get that from

The PAC12 had years to improve and failed. Blame those in charge.

Yep a true national conference. Pick up The U and nearly all major TV markets in country are covered .

But no national championships north of Columbus...

That's cute but those schools still don't have no clout or money

I think we will see the major power5 teams form a super league of 30 to 40 teams. Then there will be a subtier that will be the Mississippi states, and Virginia's, and Baylor that will be actual college football. I think people will gravitate to those teams because it won't be so money driven in those leagues.

@@mistanderson basketball wise they do. Texas Tech, Kansas, Baylor, Arizona, Oregon, Cal have good Bball programs.

@@theyreEatingthedogs Ummm this is all about Football. These moves are FOOTBALL money moves not basketball moves. Football carries everything

Its going to happen..Big Ten West in inevitable...

May soon? It’s a guarantee my guy. A lot of changes coming soon. Gonna look very different

98% won’t make the nfl though…

@@cc-92 same them with 98% of minor league players unfortunately it’s never about the mass only about the few

This is a horrible take, college football is extremely relevant

As a fan of one of these teams likely to be left behind in the shuffle this blows. There’s basically no reason to follow college football now unless your school/franchise is in the “Super League”

Exactly. It is now a farm league for the NFL.

Don’t worry, they won’t get to that level anyways! Haha!

Why do you think that USC can compete in the big 10 if they can’t compete in the PAC 12 in football anymore? What’s your justification?

@@skypirate6278 I'm not talking about THIS year. But USC has a long and storied history and they will undoubtedly have more great seasons in the future.

No Scholarship money to players…give it to the kids studying Medicine, Science, Biology, Mathematics, Engineering, and any other areas of study that benefit American Society. Athletes are bottom feeders in the River of Life-particularly in the U.S. And particularly basketball and football players.

@@pilljr.3331 The smart kids get their own scholarships. I see what you mean tho. But without college athletics, kids don't hear about Baylor, Clemson, Duke, or Gonzaga.

@@pilljr.3331 if athletes are bottom feeders then why are all the other non-athletes spending so much time and money investing in what athletes do?…why dont they all just entertain themselves each weekend? Certainly they should all be smart enough to figure that out….or maybe they’ve acknowledged to themselves most of their lives just arent that interesting in comparison so thats why the pack out arenas and stadiums by the 10s of thousands each week

@@pilljr.3331 we masses need the modern bread & circus my friend.

@@pilljr.3331 "bottom feeders"? Whats with this bitter attitude towards student-athletes?

Honestly it’s basically a tier of professional athletics at this point lol

Yup because not all teams have same requirements for actual academics requirements of players

I think so too.. have classes for money management, social media presence, business ethics, basically things they will need to be successful after sports..

Who would pay them? The majority of college football players still benefit more from the degree too

halfway there in one short year

Yep Texas Longhorns and A&M squabbled over tv rights. That spurred the move

Colorado started this. They will be the biggest losers in the end. I bet they come crawling back to the B12 and i hope thr B12 tells them to get lost.

To many Bowl games now anyway and most are not relevant and the host schools do not even support some. 8 -10 REAL bowl games of the 80”s not a bad idea.

As a fan of a current Power 5 team that is likely to be left behind, this feels like getting demoted to the minor leagues. If this happens there’s basically no reason for most athletic programs to exist.

Then eventually someone will buy it, maybe the NFL, and corporatize it and it will turn into the NIL into the G-League for football. Maybe each team is sponsored by a university at first but whether players are students gradually becomes inconsequential and eventually each university sells their sponsorship rights for billions of dollars. And then the universities start their own football teams for students that play in the same kind of local conferences as women's field hockey and college football becomes amateur again and everyone watches that instead of the NIL. So then kids can either 'go pro' out of high school and get paid or go to college and be an amateur student athlete and sign NIL deals if they are good. Just like we see in basketball

Those teams joining makes the most sense with what has just happened. I would support that move.

Who cares about academics?? It's all about the $$$$$$!

Just completely absorb the pac 12 as a whole.

@@xavierbreath2227 oof. No thank you. Don't want the Arizona schools, Wazzu, or Oregon State. Not sure about Utah or Cal either.. I like the first proposal.... Oregon, Washington, ND, Stanford..... that would be enough.

Pac 12 is dead now

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Imagine like the tennis team or the wrestling team. It will be rough but clearly USC and UCLA have factored all that in

@@markwilliams9963 I'd imagine they drop all other sports except football and basketball into a west coast league.

Are you a grandma? 6 hours is nothing

More like 4-5 hours but yeah crazy

players have nothing better to do anyway

@Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT college football is still better in my opinion. Players only have 4 years of eligibility - so it feels like every team -no matter how much they suck - is potentially a few years away from contending for some type of title. Doesn’t ever feel like that with sucky NFL teams. But the biggest reasons are that there are so many colleges that you can cheer for your city/state/local team instead of a regional team or random team like a lot of NFL fans have to root for. College Football is more like English Premier League Soccer than any other US sport.

NIL?

@@nochepatada NAME. IMAGE. LIKENESS. College players able to make money using NIL as the cover

@@lennchadful I figured they didn't mean National Indoor Lacrosse

@@JabezGill I love college football but it doesn't compare to the nfl!All the nfl is are the best of the best players from college so they're bigger,faster and stronger.The nfl product has been amazing in recent years.Just look at last years playoffs.The nfl is king of all sports for 99% of us!

Divisons will be gone in next year or two.

Lol... you don't want USC... Riley building one of those super teams and now with NIL USC boosters have a lot deeper pockets then Iowa boosters😅

this is truly the golden age of B1G West football

@@lakeozarkrei3767 but how will he deal with patty Fitz's scheming this isn't the big 12 we play defense and manball in this conference not worried USC is garbage in the trenches

No way -- I’m a massive big ten fan but USC will be back by the end of 2022. By 2024 they should be a top 5 team in the country. Riley had Oklahoma in the top 10 every season - and now he has a much better pipeline of talent around him in Cali. OSU vs USC will be a massive rivalry It’ll be equivalent to Bama vs Georgia

UCLA vs Indiana in basketball got me excited

s/southern pricks/ESPN/g and you got that right.

Oregon isn't leaving the pac12. Usc would be dumb to leave the pac12 with their history in the league. And if Oregon joined the big ten....I'd stop watching college football. That will never happen. They'd lose so many home fans. You can't upset your local fan base. Plus, Phil knight,Mr money for Oregon wouldn't allow that....

@@billyyank5807 , Oregon is not going to be left behind. It sucks. I love the PAC 12 but its done. PAC 12 will disintegrate.

I Hate University of Michigan

@@antoniosaxon8605 we hate you Antoinette 😘

I always thought the PAC and BIG10 should have merged with the Rose being the conference Championship. That would respect their historic partnership and look towards the future.

It will stay in Indy.

I doubt things like the rose bowl are going to matter before long

Likewise, everybody’s crying & im just confused

@Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT Nothing more than a professional league played at a much inferior level.

@Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT I have watched less and less of college. Think I'm pulling the plug. It used to be kind of neat to see a phenom before they were professional. I can just wait.

Steven Perry- Exactly. We don't need them. Waste of money.

These schools have been making millions off of these football players for years while they struggle to get by. It's about time they got a piece of the pie. Right now the pay scale is out of wack but this is only the 1st year so they need time to iron out the bugs. Eventually it will all be sorted out with a little trial and error. Let's give it a few years at least and see how this all shakes out. To many people are to quick to judge. I hear Notre Dame is also going to the Big 10. I like it.

Big10 has an academic standard that has to be met, so most schools don't even qualify.

All the leftovers need to form a super conference!

but sc and ucla tradition is big in ncaa so they had to go with them

Duck fans are onboard and if we have to bring the much hated puppies of WaRshington with us we will.

@@RedFive03 i like the ducks, even though i am a Michigan fan. i have always liked Oregon. except for that loser Joey Harrington the lions got. but i can forgive lol

@@lennchadful ugh always felt so bad for Joey going to that horrendous team.

Not enough $

Schools need the NCAA for title 9

@@timnor4803 If there's enough NIL money, there's no need for scholarships anymore. If that happens, football and men's BB no longer need to be concerned about title 9. The NCAA would only be necessary for non-revenue sports. It would be a huge blow for women's college sports as well as the NCAA, which would have almost all its funding cut.

@@onehorsetoomany8006 I will say, assuming this is all about football, the NCAA won't lose much revenue. Almost the entirety of its current earnings actually come from the D1 Basketball tournament. I'm not sure they make anything important from football anymore, since they're not in charge of the FBS.

@@edwardcardona717 Exactly correct, and if there's any sport where NIL is bigger than football, it's men's basketball. If men's basketball goes full NIL, without scholarships, why do they need the NCAA?

No integrity at NCAA if it disappears completely it would be the best outcome. Losing traditional rivalries will suck. USC versus Iowa, who cares?

Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State are worth more to other conferences than Baylor who has almost no alumni base or fan base.

@@borbafatt Geographical wise, Baylor and Ok St are closer to the West Coast. A Texas school in the Pac 12 has lots of relevance with Californians from the Bay Area and Los Angeles moving to Texas in high numbers. It makes sense to have a Texas school in 3 of the Power 5 Conferences. Kansas is always going to be high caliber in basketball, but football has its ups and downs.

@@edwardnygma2702 If that’s the case and they want a Texas market Texas Tech is worth 5 times what Baylor is. Despite their recent success in football and basketball Baylor is, along with TCU ,the least valuable programs in the big 12

Yes, I hate those two being in the Big Ten

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Nah, I think we'll stay

And, lose the lucrative east coast cable TV revenue? Rutgers, Maryland and their cable market (to carry the B1G Network) is the reason they were invited into the conference and, one of the reasons the conference can possibly land a 1.1 billion dollar TV rights deal. Fans always think football when these deals go down. It's not football, it's the dollars. Obviously, the conference is willing to suffer mediocre sports in exchange for a cool billion. And, that's before USC, UCLA and their cable market was a factor. With that the conference could be looking at a 1.5 billion dollar TV deal. Cha ching!

No. B1G Pac West and B1G Pac East.

The rest of the PAC 12 should combine with the leftover big 12. They could be the ACC of the west, or WCC. At least you’d have 2 powerhouse conferences and two “can be” competitive conferences.

Stupid. Never happen. Oregon isn't going anywhere.

Not a terrible idea

@@user-tz2zz5ij1s Good luck!

And that will be a solid league!

Any time relegation is involved I can get behind it

Which is why I said no way in hell does Miami join the B1G, and all that travel to boot. We'll be SEC.

California kids already leave for the big 10 and sec. And they do just great. Shouldn’t be so different.

Good for the kids. They should've been paid a long time ago.

@@88spaces You're darn right. The end of the Plantation System.

@@kimoandrews5802 Yes. If you contribute towards the profits you should get paid. Period.

@@kimoandrews5802 You should get a percentage of any profit you help generate. What's the point of your effort if you don't?

i like Oregon State. you guys need to aim higher than the damn sun belt. start begging the SEC or Big 10 now. youll die in the sun belt

What schools taking the money? The addition of the Los Angeles schools is estimated to raise projected TV revenues for each Big Ten school from $70 million annually to $100 million. In other words, the LA schools are bringing in nearly $500 million in annual revenue to the Big Ten. To put that in perspective, the Big Ten was projected to bring in $1 billion annually among the 14 schools. The two LA schools alone hold market value of 50% of the entire 14 team Big Ten. That’s why every Big Ten AD stated this decision was a no brainer. For the LA schools, the move to the Big Ten was a compromise between forming their own independent conference and staying in the Pac-12.

@@showtimebruin7821 uh huh riiigggghhhttt...

@@justinboyce1285 Yeah, it is right.

Both those schools will be in the big 10 soon enough. its not stopping at 16, not stopping at 17 when ND joins. its end up at 24-26 after 3-5 more years pass and TV deals expire. the SEC will end up getting teams like Texax Tech, Okie state, Baylor, ETC. there will be 2 mega conferences soon. 2 24-26 school conferences

They've been playing in Utah Colorado and Washington....

Colorado, Oregon, Washington, Utah, WSU, Oregon State all places that have snowy weather! Try again!

Pac-12 North all have snowy locations try again

@@wejuggernautentertainmentl3156 can’t help those who don’t know regional weather

Wrong. A one loss PAC12 powerhouse always had a chance to go to the playoffs. The last time the Ducks has a 10 one loss was in 2014 and Helfrich took then to the playoffs where they lost to Ohio State. Prior to that the last time the Ducks had a one loss team was in 2012 under Chip Kelly was in 2012. USC has not had an undefeated team or one loss team since 2004 under Pete Carroll. Two loss teams never make the playoff. And, the SEC plays 8 conference games and most of their teams schedule a auto-win for their midseason conference game. As an example, Alabama played New Mexico State for their tenth game of the season last year. So they had an 8 game conference season, a bye, and a late season game against NMS. In 2019 they played NMS early and Western Carolina late. If the commsioner of the PAC12 had any brains he would demand our season be changed to 8 conference games, like the SEC, so we don't cannibalize our own. All the teams would schedule a late season patsy like in the SEC. And we would not have night games, which are never watched in the mid-west or east and so our ratings are in the toilet. AND, we would never allow any of our teams a start time for an away game earlier than a time adjusted for noon PST time. No more noon EST games which is a 9:00 a.m. PST time which means the kids are up at 5:00 a.m. to get ready for a game. Being mach isn't cool, its stupid when it costs you wins. Its all just really stupid and self defeating. If we made the changes I speak about The PAC 12 would end up with four or five teams every season with one or two losses fighting it out at the end, and TV audiences would be huge - no one watches 2 loss teams out of playoff contention at the end of a season fighting for a second tier bowl game, which is exactly what the PAC12 has been the last so many years. We have just screwed ourselves in the PAC12 with schedule mismanagement and short term greed. Looking for a payday with night games has cost the conference huge over the long haul. Anyway, you get my drift.

Well that's because the PAC 10 has been a weak conference. They don't play anyone.

@@tomhorvath6137 you really had to write a whole novel huh weirdo. People didn’t respect the PAC-12 plain and simple

@@DAISYROSE22 everybody has bottom feeders. Every conference is top heavy at this point in time.

Looking forward to seeing USC play in Ann Arbor. And seeing Penn St in the Rose Bowl against UCLA Ohio St under the lights in the coliseum Can’t wait!

0-2 Michigan

Michigan is 8-3 lifetime vs. UCLA,4-6 vs. USC.

@@danieldecker2526 and I bet those losses came at the Rose Bowl and Coliseum, respectively.

@@ronaldmccomb8301 Rose Bowls,but i think UCLA won in Ann Arbor in 1982.

But wait until they have to play Michigan in the big house in November

The big ten has 16 teams with the new additions hasn't been ten since the 90s but I guess you didn't know that

as an okla fan you guys are both drunk lol

@@yung1smitty I thought they actually had 14? And 2 affiliates. Anyways eventually it will look something like 4 main Conferences with about 18-20 maybe more teams in each. Twelve-Sixteen team playoffs. Should be interesting. At this point anybodys guess is as good as any. But I think you missed my meaning. Oak fans thought Reilly was avoiding the SEC so he went to a lesser Conference the Pac 12. So with that reasoning now that there going to the Big 10 he will run to the lesser Conference the Big 12 or ACC. I know. Dumb joke.

How about UCLA vs Arizona in basketball? As a UCLA fan thats what I will miss the most.

@@biozio186 this is all about football. I don't know why they just don't separate football from college athletics

@@freeisalwaysme cuz then it would be the usfl or xfl

@@freeisalwaysme still gonna miss the rivalry tho

@@biozio186 non conference games

They did pay them. It’s called $200000 in scholarships for every meal, book, and class you’ll ever need. What next? Pay high school players who driver revenue for their local schools. This is all ridiculous. Many people will tune out except for maybe their local school. Look at tv ratings.

Man I hope they get Notre Dame

@@kych2008 ND will NEVER switch from being independent for football

Clemson would fit better in the SEC though if such moves were to happen.. And if it did I definitely see both conferences going to 20 teams

I actually think the SEC gets Clemson and Florida State at some point. Big Ten has shown they’ll only go after AAU schools…if they stick with that. Good options though…Stanford, Washington, UNC, Pitt, Georgia Tech…

Big Ten seems to be in love with the North Carolina schools in the ACC.

a&m left for the sec 1st

Maryland went to the big 10 in 2013 I think

You are off by 9 years. They joined in 2012.

That's the way as the Sun Belt is growing and the established teams of the MidWest and East can matchup.

It would be logistically ideal to have Oregon, ND, Washington, and others join the Big Ten but the addition of each school would require contributing $100 million in TV revenue to justify it. Notre Dame would obviously cover it but Oregon and Washington it’s hard to say. Part of the problem (and reason UCLA/USC left the Pac-12) is the geographic isolation and low population of western states. If you take the population of states and neighboring states comprising each conference, the Pac-12 has by far the smallest population. It’s not that Portland and Seattle aren’t big markets but they are at least 600 miles from the next closest population centers. It’s a big part of the Pac-12’s decline in recent years. They just don’t get that much exposure.

Ohio state , Georgia and Clemson are not competitive teams?

Cope.....

This would be interesting.

the Premier League model is with three relegations and promotions. Four is applied here in my home, Brazil. I defend three relegations, I think four is a bit too much. I like that model, me and every soccer fan have lived with it their whole lives. Now the MLS is trying to push that away and is already dragging the mexican teams through the mud in it

As an SEC man, an Aggie myself, my only worry is conferences like the B1G 10 or SEC taking in more teams and watering down the conferences. I like Texas and OU joining the SEC, and SC and UCLA joining the B1G. Those programs, aside from OU, might not have been very competitive here lately, but they bring rich winning historic legacies that will always rebuild and become powerhouses again at some point.

They’ll have DC too through Maryland lol

You Must Be Joking!! Other than Michigan, which BTW look it up USC & UCLA Are Far Better Schools Academically. Get your facts straight.

@@antoniosaxon8605 Not joking at all. USC and UCA are close to Michigan, but not quite. You're thinking of Cal and Stanford as being academically superior.

@@Tom-kq3ng and Philadelphia via Penn State. Now if they cam get Cal and Stanford, they'd add San Francisco and have all of the seven most powerful urban areas in the US.

Soccer fans absolutely didn’t want it.

@@dancegregorydance6933 for soccer it makes no sense football I kinda get it 😂😂😂🤣

That’s what I’m kind of thinking. They should join and become the ACC of the west, the PCC or WCC. That’ll leave 2 powerhouse conferences and 2 “could” be competitive conferences. Football wise.

They're not bumping out anyone. You can't just kick schools out of the conference. They wanted Rutgers and MD for thr NYC and DC markets.

@@FAITHandLOGIC if they could, I’d trade out for Rutgers and Maryland for Oregon and Washington. Oregon is ranked at estimated 26th most watched, Washington at 28th, while Maryland is 54th and Rutgers 75th. Regardless of what market they play in, Oregon and Washington pull in way more viewers. Money wise, it’s a no brainer.

They wont bump Rutgers, they want that NY media money

@@somedudenamedryan Great point, then you have the 3 largest media markets solely in your conference. Didn’t even think of that. Well played.

The administrators pulling the strings don’t give a crap about tradition or legacy, they just want a new yacht man. I’m fine either way, I don’t really give a crap about some olds from the 60s and 70s. Give me NFL lite baby, that way we get to see the big boys clobber each other in the field more often.

Did your heart also break when the big 12 got picked apart or did you enjoy watching that conference get gutted?

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