Rich Eisen: Why a Steelers QB Controversy Seems Inevitable | The Rich Eisen Show 

hey, the Browns were the most dominant team in the league.... in the 50s

Jim Brown has something to say about this. The NFL existed before the Super Bowl.

I like the nicknames... Browns = Stains Ravens = Ratbirds Bengals = Bungles

That encapsulates my feelings towards our divisional rivals perfectly lol 🫡

Bengals will get the worst boos. We respect the ravens and harbaugh. We just feel bad for the browns really it's like punching down on a toddler. But the Bungals can get fucked

I was going to say the same thing lol. Spot on.

​@@vinnybobby3450ravens respect the steelers and Tomlin too 🤜🤛 I disagree on the Browns though. Screw both Ohio teams

I can't believe he was remotely confused by this or wondering if the Browns might get more boos. Seriously Rich? It's considered the best rivalry in football by a lot of people. I am a little surprised Rich considered this a tossup

Why no one mention Patriots ?

I was thinking that too just out of habit lol… it’s more fun hearted and loud but the ravens there’s actual concern about who’s drafted

Belicheat and Brady are gone. Pats without those 2 will go back into the dark ages.

​@@AbleAnderson it hasn't been the best rivalry in a long time

They both suck. Not much competition in that QB room

@@kiaadams104 Says the guy on the internet with no athletic ability. Another keyboard warrior with a big mouth. Go Figure

@@kiaadams104: Neither one sucks, especially not Russ! Dude is headed to Canton!

@@CraigJacobs-wz5qs plenty of abilities. You are also a keyboard warrior.. you attack me. Had nothing to say about my argument... probably because I'm right

Two QBs = no QBs

*Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats* Pass attempts: 958 Pass completions: 578 Completion%: 60.3% TD-INT: 40-30 Passing yards: 6,674 Passer rating: 82.3 *Rushing yards: 2,220* *Rushing yards/yr: 740* *Rushing TDs: 14* *Rushing attempts: 356* *Rushing y/a: 6.2* Sacks: 135 Sacks/yr: 45 Yards lost: 908 Yards lost per sack: 6.7 Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost) On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost. __________________________________________ *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics)* Pass attempts: 1,416 Pass completions: 917 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 84-26 Passing yards: 10,913 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 1,327 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 7 Rushing attempts: 245.25 Rushing Y/A: 5.4 Sacks: 131.75 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 866 Yards lost per sack: 6.5 Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost) NOTE: As you can see, Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part. Fields takes them because he can’t read the field! __________________________________________ *Russ’s Career Statistics* Pass attempts: 5,665 Pass completions: 3,668 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 334-106 Passing yards: 43,653 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 5,307 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 29 Rushing attempts: 981 Rushing y/a: 5.4 Sacks: 527 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 3,464 Yards lost per sack: 6.57 Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost) *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver in which both years skewed Russ’s stats downward.* If we were to discount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be that much better than Fields’s, and that would include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics.

If you actually listened to his interview he said as much. "I watch Russel and what he does and think, "I need to do that, too". Of course, he is competing. That's what you want from solid backup.

@@lonniecrosby4820 What interview are you referencing? He's had 3 years worth of interviews in Chicago.

​@@Vortex1988 It was interview #23, on a Tuesday.

Fields said he was influenced by Newton, Wilson and Roger's

Lol 😅😅😅 Fields wanted to go to Pit before Wilson even got their what are you talking about...

Lol fr this happens on every team. COMPETITION IS THE BREEDING GROUNDS FOR GOOD TEAMS. I feel like people that never been on a team and competed are always so outraged when there is competition

Media's just looking for stories in the off season, can't really blame them at this point of the year. But I agree with you 100% this is only a good thing for both guys, can only make them better imo. Plus they really have to see what fields has and if they wanna resign him next year, be it with 1st team in practice or on the field.

@@ryu-ken uhm I said controversy 😂 reading comprehension is vital 🙄

@@howardgriego2272I think he was agreeing with what you were saying actually lol, just worded it wrong 😂

Because the Media loves a controversial storyline.

I have no respect for the Bungals!

Ya'll haven't won a playoff game in 7 years. Let's not pretend Steelers are worth a damn lately, a bit like the Panthers saying who they "respect."

I don't respect the Bengals. Perennial paper tigers. 🐅

Chicago guy here just hoping for the best for Fields

That’s ok, we’ll be just fine.

Ever since Terry Bradshaw beat “Americas Team”, I’ve been a fan of the Steelers. Unless the Bears play the Steelers, I will be rooting for Steelers especially with our beloved Justin Fields on the line up! Go Steelers!

Broncos are paying 40 million dollars to NOT have Russ on the roster. Steelers some clowns

@@kiaadams104 Or ? Broncos are a joke . Myself I want them both to fail from C town .

No lie, there were Steelers fans still trying to tell me last year Kenny Pickett was actually good 🤣😂

If Fields is outplaying Russ than I think that tomlin will start him, but he’d have to be CLEARLY better than Russ probably

@@kiaadams104yeah because the broncos make such good decisions

I think he's more baffled then doesn't like him. Though Wilson has done more then his fair share to turn people against him.

@@Gungho73 like what

@@louischase994 Like I dunno, telling the media all the teams he'd love to be traded to but only these teams, yet change those teams while playing for a team he is currently contracted for. A fanbase doesn't tend to like you very much when you consistently talk about going anywhere else in public in such a manner. Complain about offensive line play quality, but never taking a deal and always taking the shorter deals to maximize profits. Utilized a suspiciously lower amount on his supposedly "charitable causes" on the actual causes himself. It's been revealed he is also not a great teammate behind closed doors, and that his persona he presents to the media is not the one he actually brings to the table. He is a player that apparently wants very much the credit to be his and to be put in positions that don't benefit the team winning games, but benefit him in terms of receiving that credit. Basically, he likes to pretend in front of the media he's a "its on me, what I could've done better" guy but behind the locker room doors he's very much not in the belief its his fault when things goes wrong, and very much his contribution when things go right. People in Denver got rubbed very much the wrong way when he hadn't done a damn thing but they had given him a private office in the Broncos headquarters, and while he kept a "open door" for teammates, it was very clear he was treated in an absurdly special manner. Which is also unlikely to be true as well if what his teammates like Lynch mentioned about Wilson in Seattle in short "You had to go through 'his guys' if you wanted to talk with him." That's extremely bizzare for someone who is not an executive, to treat people as if they have to get privileged to speak with him. None of this accounts for the fact he hasn't played well or consistently in years. People view the TD/INT ratio, but not the plays down to down that actually imply if he's a good QB. People who find the things I mentioned abrasive will double down on disliking a guy like that when you're not winning games that matter but getting paid like you do.

@Gungho73 not the first player to do it

A lot of people don't. He is phoney

This sudden love the media is showing Justin is only because of how much they do not like Russell. They want him out of the league.

@@brandyc3559 exactly. Perfectly stated

Russ is definitely the better QB when you look at the totality of their careers but right now the ceiling is way higher with fields. Russ's best years ended after 2019. He's still a starter but not so much better than fields that it shouldn't be a QB competition

Russ definitely needs to be on the bench or learn how to see the middle of the field. He can choose

To OP: Don’t talk like that. That’s logic, facts, and independent critical reasoning. These people don’t understand that kind of talk.

if you have 2 QBs you have no QB.

@@SkunkLifeMedia that’s a bunch of bs. Go ask the eagles when Foles stepped in after Wentz got hurt and won SB (Wentz would’ve won league MVP)

Welp you have one QB and a direct snap back.

Can we just appreciate what we have compared to what we had? Just a thought

@@howardgriego2272 you have Wilson at least. Maybe Justin can run the ball for you but don’t expect him to be able to read a defense. I saw when we got Claypool from you guys…. You guys are getting a similar productivity but different position

Agree but their were moments where you saw his immense talent.

Fields, in my opinion, is not a championship QB. He'll give the Steelers moments, but I've seen some QB's provide moments before, and they either never reached or excelled in THE moment. I'm not giving up on him completely, largely because he played in Chicago which is notorious for QB's failing instead of excelling...but the needle is leaning in the direction of me being unconvinced that he's a NFL championship caliber QB. I'm not seeing it.

@@tajzikria5307 Yes....but those were moments, that's the key word, and those moments tended to go POOF! in the 4th quarter for reasons I cannot begin to understand and...he reads the field (pun intended) rather poorly. He's yet to demonstrate timely decision making on a consistent basis in regards to following multiple receiver progressions, which was something guys like Brady or Mahomes do (or did) very well. Fields is a two-dimensional QB in a 3 dimensional game...I'm not bailing on him yet...but if he shows zero growth in the next year or two in those areas, he's done as a prospective career starter and will become a journeyman backup if he's lucky.

Anyone who actually watched Fields would have questions about his ability to play QB. People that just watched highlights or look at fantasy are the ones that think he's good.

Exactly, people cling way too hard to occasional 'flashes', at some point has to develop into a complete player.

The Khan Artist wasn't gonna trade for him during FA. Everyone knew the Bears were gonna trade him before the draft. Thank God Pickett quit on his NFL career. 🎉🎉🎉

Fields was a good option if you don’t want a passing game. Don’t hate the guy but he cant see the field and is a running highlight reel at best. Fans are blaming the oline but he held the ball the longest which would lead any oline break down…..

At least he can run. Because KP8 couldn’t run or pass.

The Bears are in a sub par conference, much easier to get a spot.​@PatriotWatchUSA

He hasn't shown nearly enough to convince a critical thinker that he's a championship level QB in my opinion. His passing is erratic. The game appears to be too fast for him in that department and his Houdini act in the fourth quarter needs to stop immediately. That's not going to allow him to earn a starting position anywhere.

@@moonytheloony6516 he had one of the worst centers in the league last year, if we thought green or Cole was bad, please go watch that tape. And we all seen the implications that come with such bad center play, and didn't have a great running game if you take fields stats away. And after his horrendous start to the year he was greatly improved even in a offense that went completely away from his skill set. But him I'm a run 1st, play action, designed roll outs, and designed run plays for him. And I'm sure his confidence will improve as well as his pocket presence. From all the videos of him looks like his hitch is gone from his motion. I'm not sure but seeing him in a different team, and a much better offense for his skill set, why can't he improve?

Fields might end up the next Geno smith. But in 5 years. And only if he works like crazy as Geno did

@@nnjjee1 why 5? Brees left San Diego after a pretty bad 4 years. And was a stud immediately in NO. Geoff was great after leaving the rams. You can toss in Steve young, and Bret farve. You can name more but, 5 years until he is good? The issue is the team has alot to do with success as much as the player does. Bad system he was in wasn't ever set up for him to be the player he is.

Andy, me, too.

@@johnmajcher5726 Awesome! I actually just did some research to figure out why he said it and as it turns out, one of the co-hosts on this show, TJ Jefferson, is an Altoona native who graduated from AAHS in 1990 and is someone who takes great pride in having grown up there - which is always nice to hear! It seems like Eisen apparently throws in the occasional Altoona reference, as sort of an inside joke with TJ. The Altoona Mirror actually interviewed him a few years ago about becoming such a success and rubbing elbows with all sorts of famous people. And now we know!

See how Caleb handles the media after a few bad losses

So one QB is way better than the other?

those offenses were garbage, and the same question can be asked of russ.

@@tinman85 No. Not really. Wilson has succeeded at a level that Fields has yet to even begin to reach. Granted, questions regarding Wilson are fair, but he has at the very least a resume in which he's shown something on the biggest stage, and for a number of years he did very well at the QB position. The same cannot be said of Justin Fields.

​@@moonytheloony6516 its wild to me that people use +7year old tape to validate Russell Wilsons competancy as a QB. Reality of his situation is that if he was still that player, he would be with Seattle, if he was still even 80% of that player, the Broncos wouldnt be paying him 90million dollars to play elsewhere. Is Russ a better QB than Fields? Yes, probably. Is Fields a better athlete? Yes, by alot. Maybe its recency bias, but alot more current successful offenses revolve around QB mobility(even if not as an outright running threat, but through bootlegs/PA plays, or improvisational play extensions) and that was Russell's strength too, but maybe through age, or a lack of confidence, he has lost that. In my opinion, its more realistic to evaluate/compare these guys based on the last 3 years rather than pretend Russell Wilson is still a perennial pro bowler.

I'll drive JF to Greenbay. Greenbay knew all they had to do was keep him in the pocket and they did and we lost. Fields is a terrible QB.

Correct! Check out last years game between Broncos and Bears. JF looked great until 4th Qtr. Bears scored 0 points and Broncos (Russ) 17 and won.

Not exactly but we all know you kinda excited about your misfits