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Cities where people work for the company that own the town means the money they spend pretty much goes back to the company that gives them a salary, an absolute ethical nightmare
no sir, they would cut you from the next salary for what you have spent/consumed...so that you and the Company can make savings on tax paid to the government
Company towns of the Industrial Age took full advantage of this. They marked up prices of goods and rent enough that all the money they paid workers went back to them. Some took it even a step further and paid workers with fake currency that could only be spent within the company. God forbid you get fired or quit due to the abhorrent working conditions, or couldn’t afford the rent because of them bleeding you dry, as you then end up on the streets with nothing but the clothes on your back.
My great grandparents fought in the street to defeat oil barons running feudal style cities with their own bespoke currency and we are just like "okay Facebook, why not!?"
That's why it's important for the media companies to talk to us about what the Kardashians are doing, or suggest the pyramids were built by aliens. If people knew the history of the past century, they'd be a fighting a hell of a lot harder. But most people don't know any of that, so they're easy to scam. That is absolutely by design. Curate your media, kids. It's easier than ever.
6:45 They weren't temporary, they just tried to claim they were temporary because they didn't have the proper building permits for a permanent structure. The concrete foundations clearly indicated they were intended to be permanent, which is what the article was suggesting.
Danny, you have to build Greg Town as a competitor to Kurtis Town. I’ve heard they’re growing quicker by the day, we don’t want them becoming the fastest growing army on the internet.
Elon's town is almost exactly the same as what mining companies did in the early 1900s. They would build towns with houses, supermarkets etc. for their employees to live in. These mining companies would then pay their employees with fake currency that could ONLY be used in that town and couldn't be converted to any other currency, so employees couldn't quit or leave the town.
Well, as long as he doesn't do the "you can only use my currency in my stores" thing, just living in a little town your employers created isn't a terrible idea, especially if it's that close and significantly cheaper than surrounding areas. 🤷🏻♀
@@LadyBeyondTheWall No, it's still a terrible idea, because now your housing is entirely dependent on your employer and if your employer threatens to fire you they are also threatening to render your homeless and force you to leave the town you live in. Not to mention the fact that "significantly cheaper than surrounding areas" is entirely up to the whims of your employer who can raise the prices of both rent and products in the town (either directly if they run the shops or indirectly if they rent the land to shop owners). The company will also be able to easily monitor your every move. Imagine your boss asks if you can come into work for an extra shift. You say no. He says "Why not? I can see you haven't left town. It won't take more than 5 minutes to drive on down." That's dystopian nightmare fuel.
Ah, was looking for this answer. i thought they meant envisioned but apparently they do mean slightly different things: "The words envisage and envision share the same Latin root meaning to see. Both words are very similar in meaning but do have slight shades of difference. If you envision something happening, you can see it happening in your mind. I'm sure you can envision yourself graduating from high school! If you envisage something, you can imagine it, but not necessarily see it. You can envisage world peace, but it may be harder to envision it."
Hey Danny! I usually don't comment but thought it was important to mention to you and others: just letting you know that foods like Sunday's dog food put dogs at risk for things like nutritional DCM (a heart disease that is preventable in breeds that aren't likely to get it) and pancreatic due to the fat levels. A lot of these dog foods don't even do the bare minimum of feeding trials. These companies can afford to hire nutritionists, do studies, feeding trials, and remain on the side of wsava complacent guidelines and they refuse to. We all want more options on what to feed our dogs, but grain-free foods or foods with a lot of legumes can cause as much of an issue if they're not formulated correctly. Grains and the like are good for dogs that aren't allergic to it, and these foods abuse the fact that we associate human grade with good. If you want to feed your dogs fresh food, consult a nutritional vet. Not a regular vet, as most vets aren't super knowledgeable in proper nutrition to guide you on that. Sorry for the long message, I just want to avoid people losing their dogs to foods made by people who don't care
Hi! Do you know anything about The Honest Kitchen brand? I feed my dog a food from their brand that says it’s human grade-but I checked and it has no legumes in the ingredients, and it does include grains. The specific food is “Whole Food Clusters, Whole Grain, Chicken & Oat Recipe, Small Breed.”
So glad to have read this. Your message felt overly fear monger-y so I did my own research on all your claims and it seems like you’re completely correct. My dog has pretty severe allergies and intolerances so we’re always on the lookout for a better option. I’m not sure I would’ve ever known about all that had I not read your comment and looked it up for myself. Definitely the knowledge that DCM may be dietary, and now knowing what else to look for when researching these food brands is going to be so incredibly helpful
I like to think all these headlines are fully literal and all these rich people are building these cities by hand "Kanye West tried to build a city in Wyoming" really hits different when you picture him laying every brick by hand
For the city planning aspect mentioned at 10:15, yes builders plan all of that out ahead of time, where the residential area is, commercial, industrial etc. They didn't do that when we were first settling/stealing the land, but any new development has a shitload of planning before it's built,
@@manboy4720I originally replied “wyeezyoming” to this comment but I realize now that that was your joke and I was just doing a worse version of it. I apologize and I appreciate your joke. I love you
corporations trying to build their own cities for their employees shows a distinct lack of knowledge of their own country's history. people tried that already. it didnt work out. there were deaths.
Seems like people who want to build towns might have too much money. Maybe they should have higher taxes, actually put money into existing towns. Just a thought.
Maybe we can gamify it to get it trending among billionaires - the person who paid the most taxes gets a park they can name, then a library, then a community centre, then a school, then a hospital, then a shopping centre and then a sport stadium - any billionnaire who paid the most taxes after 7 years can be declared the "winner" of that town ^_^
As some have already commented, the "live where you work" cities were popular during the period of the gold and silver mining boom. It did not go well. It was a giant scam. Which were built by the companies that owned the gold and silver mines, of course. That's what a couple of these remind me of. They had their own currency and everything.
9:00 fun fact I learned when I wanted to be an architect: there is a good reason most buildings are all square, it’s because when you have all those weird rounded corners it makes designing rooms REALLY hard, because they end up with all these wonky curved areas which don’t accommodate pretty much any pre existing furniture
as an architecture student, theres probably a couple other reasons as well. 1. while not impossible, making the building structurally sound is much more difficult when the shape is not consistent 2. it would be extremely expensive to fabricate the shape for each individual piece of the building. for example, concrete buildings tend to be the same shape throughout, as the form work is cheaper if you can reuse it 3. in the way shown in this video, the facade being that seamless would be... near impossible. it's obviously been done before, but having a building shaped like that would be a major wind/water issue, and a facade that smooth would lead to damages (both visually from water stain, and physically from wind loads). 4. as @bonnie1303 said, you would have to custom build EVERYTHING. and if the walls curve as shown, there would be no 90 degree wall to floor juncture, meaning that much of the floor plan space would be completely unusable anyways sorry for the rant :P but yeah most of the buildings shown in that city would be... completely unfeasible for an entire city to look like LOL
As someone currently living and raising a family on a military base, it can be really bizarre and isolating when I dont leave base for a few days. It is definitely not always enjoyable to live and work in a fenced in area.
FUN FACT: Disney's EPCOT center was originally gonna be one of these cities! They were common during the 19th-20th century, and walt Disney had planned on a city of the future. He of course died before he could begin actually making the city, and his execs and brother thought the city was a bad idea so just built a park instead. If you wanna know more than Defunctland has a great video about the topic!
@@z.m.stewart1996They already have people living in the parks with those tacky housing community they built a few years back (watching a few of the house tours made me depressed on how awful it was designed)
The hard, crunchy texture of most kibbles is actually very good for dog's teeth. Especially if they don't let you brush them or anything, kibble can help scrape away the tartar on their teeth. Also, I didn't hear any grains in the ingredient list, and can't find any listed on their website. Make sure your dogs have grain in their diet! Grain free foods have been linked to dilated cardiomyopathy, which is basically when the heart gets so big that it has trouble contracting, and it eventually leads to heart failure/death. I hope this helps!
@@slartybartfastDogs are omnivores, not carnivores, and grains have fat, carbohydrates, fiber, and antioxidants, as well as the hard texture when used in dog food, while dogs don’t go and eat grains in nature, they would often eat it in the animals they would catch.
@@jadebeason7552 I'm pretty sure most of the animals they would have caught weren't eating that much grain anyway, more like grass and leaves. And I also saw that grains can cause allergies in dogs. Yes they are omnivores but they mostly eat meat and sometimes grass to aid in digestion, not grains. And definitely not in the quantity they have in some dog food
@@slartybartfast dogs are not obligate carnivores. Also 'grains' isn't a biological thing. it's a term we made up to describe a bunch of unrelated plants. your entire argument is basically 'yeah but i feel like grains are bad for dogs'
@@elfappo9330 All I was saying is that from what I could find, grains can be beneficial for some things but also could have downsides such as the allergy thing. And I didn't see anything saying they need grains. And dogs may not be obligate carnivores, but their teeth and digestive system is definitely more intended for digesting meat
"Envisage" seems to be a more concrete, practical version of "envision" which is more metaphorical and abstract in nature - in case anyone was wondering.
I love that Kanye see's Tatooine in Star Wars, a lawless wasteland. See's Obi-Wan call it "The most retched hive of scum and villainy" and Kanye is just like "Damn, that's the kind of city I want to live in."
Hi, someone who grew up in Menlo Park, California before it became what is now known as 'Zucktown' here. We lived in the low-income apartments next to Facebook HQ. Can confirm that the entire area is becoming a gentrified mess. They started with building more office spaces and parking lots. Next came brand new apartments for what I can assume is the employees. And next, came us. They gave us a notice that they were tearing down our apartments to build brand new ones with more commodities. Sounds great, except they didn't let many of us go back when they finished. So here all of us are, scrambling to find a new place to rent. Except, rents in Menlo Park are $4000. We were one of the lucky ones who barely qualified for a mortgage for a new house. The same cannot be said for many other low-income families. I don't know what they plan to do with the rest of the area, and I am actually a little saddened. I lived there almost my entire life and seeing it change so much bothers me. I can only hope the changes don't negatively affect the remaining residents as much as it affected the rest of us. And actually, I didn't know about Zucktown despite having lived there until watching this video. Thanks for the great video, Danny. :)
Gentrification is disgusting. You always need low income housing. You never need high priced flats. Or any fancy housing really. No one needs overly fancy flats. There is no need for that at all. I'm sorry you guys got forced out of your homes.
11:05 if you’re wondering, it’s a joke about how architects will come up with ridiculous designs and make the engineers deal with actually making it possible
funny thing is that those reflective curve buildings will cause extremely concentrated areas of heat/radiation to the point that it’ll be a health hazard. it happened before with a building like this and they had to cover it bc it was melting cars and shit
That's true! I believe this is London's "The Shard." Supposedly, a reporter was on location discussing it's car-melting capability when he had to cut things short because his hair caught on fire.
Well now I'm wondering if somebody made a town full of buildings that curve in a way that reflects the heat away from the streets and like back upwards instead, would that make the town colder?
@@shadowshade904 yes actually. So there have actually been projects trying to increase roof and road reflectivity. However the mirror/reflective metal structure in not really one that’s been explored much, probably because it isn’t very economical. But yes convex structures would spread out rather than concentrate solar rays.
@@benjaminrobinson3842 I had to look it up but it’s actually the ‘Walkie-Talkie’ building in London. From the looks of it the shards sides aren’t curved. it’s concave curved reflective surfaces that would cause this issue. I didn’t know that about the reporter, that’s quite funny.
The Facebook city said it would be 59 acres. For context, Baltimore is 59 THOUSAND acres. My suburban town is about 9,500 acres. The University of Maryland College Park campus is 1,340 acres. But 59 acres is supposed to be a city?
Maybe they think they're going to just build mega skyscrapers without any issue. So many of these stupid city plans from the rich I've followed are just doing something like that and slapping on it will be "self sustaining" somehow
11:10 yes, it is every architect's dream. ever since i decided i wanted to be an architect and started studying it, i have been having dreams about these exact buildings.
I worked for a dome construction company for about 3 years. We spent most of out time remodeling living rooms and backyards with enlarged, semicircle sitting areas. Built exactly 0 full domes.
Hey! I just wanted to point out the thing Danny said about the “planning out” cities before building them. It’s actually called urbanism. It was pretty popular in Ancient Rome and Greece, where they would plan out exactly where each buildings are going to be, instead of building houses one by one. Thank you for allowing me to yap about stuff from my freshman art history class. Hope it made sense.
Urban planner here! You do in fact plan exactly what goes where before building a brand new city to ensure all the necessary infrastructure is in place, not a bunch of film studios though. Which is why it's wild to me that Kanye was supposedly hiring everybody but urban planners...probably the reason why he's failing 💀
I was thinking about the fact that there is a parklot, but no water treatment plants, no trash collection and disposal plans, no hospital or healthcare facilities, and no firefighting facilities. Like, I'm glad the cars are safe in a city that totally could have been walkable with public transportation.
@@AdaireKrickets When you start to play city sims and stuff you really appreciate how much planning goes into it, it's so easy to fuck up it's a miracle some of them run as smoothly as they do Of course an out of touch billonare wouldn't know that...
My grandparents lived on Phillips 66 property.. they had a post office and schools... My grandpa was a chemist for Phillips so he lived and worked there....UNTIL... The plant blew up and altough he continued to work there, they had to literally pick up their house and move it to a different town!
i mean in the us they certainly influence it but there's a reason a bunch of them are leaving washington and other states because they are against the high taxes in the area.
Hershey, PA was founded as a corporate town, started by Hershey's of course. There were some real positives at the time, modern amenities in the houses plus free school for the kids of employees as well as free vocational schooling to orphaned and underprivileged people to learn to work in the factory. I'm sure there was also shady stuff going on (I'm in no means an expert on this) but let's be real, there's no way I trust Zuck and Kanye to even consider schooling as a concept for their towns, let alone have them be free.
These sort of places are pretty common around the world, especially in areas where there isn’t a lot of alternative housing. I remember watching a video about a town in Japan owned by Toyota for its employees that has like a whole underground network for robots. I think the weird thing about the ones in the videos is that the actual owner of the company is so involved and that’s usually why it fails. They’re not trying to make actual good housing for their employees, they’re wanting to become the ruler of a town completely designed by them.
Henry Ford trying building a city in Brazil back in the 20s. Sort of a wild story, and the city was akin to a ghost town in the early 2000s. The name's Fordlandia (Fordland), very interesting to see how this remains a trend among large companies to this day, and it seems like it still doesn't work out lol
None of these futuristic cities are for us common people, like theyre all for the rich folk. Also these projects of making these futuristic cities serve like no practical purpose on why theyre there in the first place like Telosa, The Line, Egypts New New city, etc.
haha I went to that sponsor's site. The biggest red flag: they do not have prices everywhere. They want you really emotionally invested before you see any costs!
@@daniellet4218just checked, you’re right! People claiming its a scam, high prices and terrible customer services as well as it apparently causing stomach problems. ALL of the recent reviews are 1 star, literally all of them
Quick note as a veterinarian- if you do choose to move your dog onto fresh food, even if if it's dried, you HAVE to be feeding them normal dog food along side it. I beg you to remember an animal is not a human and they can't get everything they need to live healthily from a "fresh food" diet. Dog and cat food is manufactured specifically to tick the boxes of health in your pet. Those "synthetic nutrients" ARE nutarians made to help you pet stay healthy. Fresh food, even dried, is great! It is NOT a replacement.
Not to be rude at all but like, they would be eating only fresh food in the wild, right?? Again, not being sarcastic, genuinely asking: what would they be getting from kibble that they can't get from a well balanced fresh food diet and supplements?
@@Crabby-Abbythey wouldn’t be getting anything “in the wild” because dogs are domesticated animals. they couldn’t live without humans, any dogs that live “in the wild” likely have contact with humans and eat food scraps from them. not to mention a wild dog would be incredibly unhealthy.
@@graces1stpsata I mean, there are literally wild dogs though? Obviously not like a Chihuahua lol but there are plenty of relatives to the dog that live in the wild just fine. And they aren't unhealthy when their ecosystem isn't destroyed by humans. And PLENTY of cats live in the wild.
@@Crabby-Abbyjust adding to the convo. Dogs and Wolves have common ancestors, but are different animals. You may be under the impression that a “natural diet” for dogs is what wolves would eat. Which is not really the case. Dogs are canines that evolved alongside humans to adapt to how humans live with them. They are not living in the forest hunting and such. They live inside and on the outskirts of human settlements. Chihuahuas are a good example of this because they have been kept along humans since the 9th century, according to light googling. If you are interested in the topic “What happened to pre-contact dogs” by Trey the explainer is a great paleontology and archeology video explaining stuff like this but specifically about pre-European contact American dogs.
I mean, Walt Disney wanted to make Epcot a little civilization where he was basically a dictator, and then he died so they turned it into a tourist attraction
It sounds like a cartoonishly dull and depressing town, where everything is grey, and everyone is sluggish and lethargic. Like the kind of place the energetic character used to live in their backstory.
Fun fact, in some small countries in west Africa, rich architects actually are planning and building really big complexes. Especially in Gambia and Senegal. I think it’s more of an apartment/housing complex with stores and stuff rather than an autonomous city but still. It’s a thing!
I actually have some experience with communities built by corporations. There was one close to where I grew up, with the company having a lot of factories in different industries over a large compound, and they also built a lot of houses, a community pool and sports areas, even two schools (one of which I went to). It was actually once of the greenest and most peaceful neighbourhoods around, as they had people caring for the place, so the air always smelled really fresh. The factories were some distance away from the actual living areas. The school and pool and stuff was originally intended for the employees' families, but because the quality of the facilities were good they also attracted a lot of people who weren't related to the city. From what I heard it was quite safe for kids to play and run around, and also your house would depend on what position the employee worked in. I never really thought about it being kinda dystopian until now lol, it was so normal for me growing up.
about how cities are built: there are different types of cities, some are organic like you said but when building a settlement like the romans did they actually had all of the areas in the city planned out, like the theatre, the market, etc.
I actually lived in a tiny mining town my dad worked at for a few years, so corporations owning/running the places their employees live at probably happens more often than we'd think.
The fact that Kanye West tried to make a 200 person mass-grave called the ‘Yecosystem’ is incredible. (I say mass-grave because a 200 person mass-grave-esque hole isn’t a city, it’s something out of the bubonic plague, or if you want to call it that: an ultra-utilitarian underground zone.)
For most cities in the world, yes. They were little groups of houses around a stream that continued on growing. A lot of American cities were fully planned out from the get go. Uninhabited land (for whatever reason) is used to blueprint a city atop
Oh man, I bet all those miners at the Boring Company are going to love the idea of living in a company-controlled town. Absolutely no historical precedent to draw upon to evaluate that decision.
Surprisingly, dome shaped houses are not only not new, they're super environmentally friendly and safe when constructed correctly. Check out the super adobe eco domes from the CalEarth institute in Hesperia, CA, one of them apparently survived a 7.6 magnitude earthquake in Nepal, which is kinda legit tbh.
Geodesic domes are also supposed to be really good in tornado-prone areas because the way they divert the high winds actually produces more of a downward pressure on the building than anything else. Or at least, that’s what I think I remember from learning about them like 15 years ago.
IDK some architecture people in the comments are saying they're incredibly impractical and expensive to make. No pre-existing doors, windows, furniture etc fit them and everything has to be custom made...don't really see how that's environmentally friendly. The dome also traps heat inside to the point of a health hazard someone said?
Tech billionaires re-inventing the company town. The last time we had these, there was literal warfare, but it's probably fine this time. It'll work great, no machine guns required. See also Sorry To Bother You.
Epcot was originally supposed to be a socially engineered town. Also, remember when you were a kid and you would design your mansion on the back of the paper placemats? This is that.
Towns run by companies sounds perfectly fine and I'm sure a quick search for "company towns" will not in anyway make me want to set things on fire with my mind.
Probably mostly that and some human trafficking thrown in to build that workforce. And probably some drug trafficking just because where you find one you often find the other. That 200person hole skeeved me the hell out.
Some of these sounded an awful lot like the good old company towns of the 1800-1900s. And by good old I mean they literally turned out horribly and we shouldn't repeat history like that :/
Planning out all the building is actually pretty common for new towns and cities nowadays. There are a lot of planned cities where they already have everything planned and then just build it in stages. An advantage of planning everything from the start is that the urban planning can be really efficient which makes it a lot nicer for the people living there. You can make sure everything is in walking distance and that all the roads will be able to handle the necessary traffic.
This became a more popular idea after the second World War, when the population boom created a demand for more housing stock. Unfortunately for planning enthusiasts, it was impossible to control *everything* so the result would be a tidy central planned area surrounded by the typical ad hoc development of a conventionally-built city.
I live near Viera Florida which is one of the top planned cities in America and it still sucks because the planners didn't think of " user experience" and the influx of people who use the business and places but don't live in Viera and instead come from surrounding cities. Also, it's expensive so all the minimum wage workers ( me lol) have to be "imported"
I live near Viera Florida which is one of the top planned cities in America and it still sucks because the planners didn't think of " user experience" and the influx of people who use the business and places but don't live in Viera and instead come from surrounding cities. Also, it's expensive so all the minimum wage workers ( me lol) have to be "imported"
I live near Viera Florida which is one of the top planned cities in America and it still sucks because the planners didn't think of " user experience" and the influx of people who use the business and places but don't live in Viera and instead come from surrounding cities. Also, it's expensive so all the minimum wage workers ( me lol) have to be "imported"
you joked about putting the homeless in a giant boot, but my collage town has a boot shaped house (used as part of a charity for people with family in the prison system) it's actually pretty cool
10:14 im an urban planning student and planned cities are definitely a thing! A lot of cities started out as planned cities, especially capitals. The capital of Brazil is a good example.
In Italy (Veneto, tbp) we have a city (pretty big too) where all of the employees of one dude decided to build houses to be closer to the main building of the factory. Now the dude is dead, but people still thinks of him like their major or smth. They still refer to it as "Alte Ceccato" (Ceccato being the name of the guy). And it's not even the first one! There's one called "Rosignano Solvay" and it's the same thing as the other one. People worked for Solvay and they started to live near it creating a city. There's also a beach with white foam made from the chemicals of the factory and people bathe in it (wild, I know). So yeah, Mr. Zucky could be onto something there 😅
As an architecture student, I must say that the right thing to do when studying urbanism is to plan everything in the city, where things are heavily influence how the city functions. So yes, Akon was kind of right in planning, but I do think these buildings in this format will be every engineer's nightmare.
On a serious note, corporations already do this with migrant workers. It's a very big problem in Canada, you have no idea just how unethical it is for your employer to also be your landlord. Trust me, corporations housing their workers should be illegal. It puts workers in positions where they can easily be, at the very least taken advantage of, and at the very worst, horribly abused.
