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Ven. Geshe Lhakdor has served His Holiness the Dalai Lama as his translator and religious assistant since 1989. In this capacity he has accompanied His Holiness to many important conferences and forums throughout the world. He has translated numerous books by His Holiness from English to Tibetan and from Tibetan to English. Geshe Lhakdor is a trustee of the Foundation for Universal Responsibility, established by His Holiness. He is also the Director of the Central Archive of His Holiness, a member of the Advisory Board of the Institute of Tibetan Classics in Montreal, Canada, and an Honorary Professor at the University of British Columbia, Canada. He is now the Director of the Library of Tibetan Works and Archives and head of Science Education Project.
Richard Dawkins is one of the most respected scientists in the world and the biggest draw in secularism, Richard Dawkins always generates impressive crowds when visiting North America.

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@seanomaille8157
@seanomaille8157 4 месяца назад
“All of humanity's problems, stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” - Blaise Pascal
@mito88
@mito88 4 месяца назад
brainstorms are fruitful
@BlueMorningStar
@BlueMorningStar 3 месяца назад
...he wrote while sitting quietly in a room alone.
@user-io6eq9gt6w
@user-io6eq9gt6w 3 месяца назад
What may be lost in that quote is the meaning of the word "inability". We may read that and imagine a lack of wisdom in people, as if they were too dumb or proud or shallow to go so sit in that room. But in reality, sitting quietly in a room alone is actually INTENSELY difficult, and people simply do not know how to do it, or cannot endure it when they try, or in fact do not know how to do so in way where they are merely lost in thought, and only perpetuate their suffering. It is a skill issue
@FoundPoetry1456
@FoundPoetry1456 3 месяца назад
I had an uncle who could do that for hours ...
@jacquesalbert8942
@jacquesalbert8942 3 месяца назад
The quote is from Pascal's Pensées, which is an unfinished defense of Christianity. If we could sit alone in a room, we would understand the misery of our condition, that we have fallen from a better estate. Then we would seek the remedy for it, which is through faith in Jesus Christ, who reconciles us to God though His blood. Whoever believes in Jesus will not perish but have everlasting life. But instead of "sitting alone in a room," and starting upon this journey, man rather seeks distraction from his condition-distraction of all kinds (hunting, games, leisure, work, warfare, etc.). This is the bigger context of the quote. Pascal was Christian through and through.
@counterculture10
@counterculture10 4 месяца назад
Love Dawkins but agree with the Buddhists on this point. You can look outwards all you like but if the inner world is disturbed then that affects what we see on the "outside."
@cyclingseth4580
@cyclingseth4580 4 месяца назад
I would go as far as to say there is no outside world. At least experientially everything we experience is brought in by sense data that we interpret then form into our conscious experience which is all being presented inside ourselves which means what matters most to the quality of the experience is how we interpret that sense data which is greatly effected by our thoughts beliefs fears ect. Meditation is the answer to overcoming these barriers
@counterculture10
@counterculture10 4 месяца назад
@@cyclingseth4580 I don't disagree.
@derektrudelle4182
@derektrudelle4182 3 месяца назад
@@cyclingseth4580 Yes, projection makes perception.
@perfectlyroundcircle
@perfectlyroundcircle 3 месяца назад
Both ways of getting happiness are good, focusing on meditating only or just enjoying other people's art. There are different ways to live, all that matters is that one is not delusional, and that he's healthy and happy.
@Anon0nline
@Anon0nline 29 дней назад
No. The overwhelming majority suffering starts with violence or force from the outside. The only purpose of community is to police this. The only purpose of ethics and morality is to police this. This is where Eastern tradition get it wrong spiritually, and engage hypocritically when it comes to governance. The idea of "putting it out of mind" only benefits the psychopaths either engaging in violence/force, or the psychopaths that look on and do nothing when they witness it.
@marcusfossa6695
@marcusfossa6695 4 месяца назад
"The tranquility that you get when you know how to be alone and go within cannot be compared to anything else." Yeah, this monk knows whats up.
@seanomaille8157
@seanomaille8157 4 месяца назад
“All of humanity's problems, stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” - Blaise Pascal
@robertjsmith
@robertjsmith 4 месяца назад
“The sole cause of man’s unhappiness is that he does not know how to stay quietly in his room” Pascal
@robertjsmith
@robertjsmith 4 месяца назад
Believe it or not,Sam Harris could have told him that
@seanomaille8157
@seanomaille8157 4 месяца назад
@@robertjsmith ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XHw1Qj5ccGY.html&pp=ygUYd2h5IHNhbSBoYXJyaXMgaXMgd3Jvbmcg
@robertjsmith
@robertjsmith 4 месяца назад
@@marcusfossa6695 so ,if you don’t notice the difference between what thought says about reality,and how you find reality to actually be you won’t notice your inner peace and freedom
@timmyturner7494
@timmyturner7494 4 месяца назад
“I find it in music, not by looking inwards.” Music must be experienced inwardly. Two people can listen to the same music and have vastly different experiences.
@pch2230
@pch2230 4 месяца назад
Yes. It stimulates what's already inside you.
@uwayn9829
@uwayn9829 4 месяца назад
Okay but music doesnt come from within you, except if you create it yourself. But imo banning every external factor of potential happiness like music or people is a little stupid when you only have one life. Why devoting your time on focusing on yourself if you have a whole world to see ? This is don’t understand.
@bike4aday
@bike4aday 4 месяца назад
@@uwayn9829 They are not banning external factors. If you are listening to music or talking to people then you simply see the three characteristics in them. "Why devoting your time on focusing on yourself if you have a whole world to see?" How can you see the world if your glasses are caked in mud? Since everything you experience is filtered through the mind, it cannot be seen clearly unless the mind is also clear. You can focus on yourself while exploring the world too! No need to put one off for later.
@uwayn9829
@uwayn9829 4 месяца назад
@@bike4aday well, i dont see monks traveling the world often lol, once you adopt true buddishm practices, you devote your life to it and it requires alot of personal investment. My point was rather aimed at those ones who dissociate from the outside world and focus on themselves. Imo, when you have the ability and the energy to explore the outside world when youre young, you should take the chance to. You wont be able to when youre old and thats when you should start seeking spirituality. You should try all options of happiness practices before heading to this one, because it might be sufficient to most people.
@bike4aday
@bike4aday 4 месяца назад
​@@uwayn9829 Monks travel all the time! How do you think Buddhism spread? Haha! Monastic life is optional, of course. There's no one perfect environment that fits everyone's needs. Anybody can do these practices. Just be present and mindful of what's happening in your experience. This will enhance your experience, not take away from it. No need to put it off until tomorrow!
@zappthezapper33
@zappthezapper33 4 месяца назад
I`m practicing Vipassana meditation for quite some time now, have sat plenty of retreats... two months ago I had a terrible accident in my profession as a carpenter. I basically cut off all four fingers of my right hand. three of them are reattached, not sure how well they ever gonna move... I lost my job too and my dreams and quite a few more things... yet I am still as happy and optimistic as always. I shed some tears of course but all in all I am full of gratitude and love for my life. I did not had a single minute of pain and the doctors and therapists are in awe as how quick my hand is healing... The message is this: sustainable, reliable happyness does only come from inside and it does come from a consistent training in the insight of impermanence (within the mind and body)... all things that arise must pass. All of us will lose our jobs eventually (maybe through retirement) All of us will lose everyone we love eventually All of us will lose everything we own eventually All our body parts will be nothing but death and decay eventually better prepare for this now, because we'll never now when tragedy is striking
@francismadden8561
@francismadden8561 4 месяца назад
The guy with no shoes has sympathy with the guy with no feet. Any meditation is never pre-meditated. When 'you' are there, meditation is not. Losing 4 fingers lacked meditation. Impermanence is here today and permanence , the afterlife if you believe in that. Which is what most believe , unfortunately.
@derektrudelle4182
@derektrudelle4182 3 месяца назад
All that ever seems to be lost is illusion. You are strong and wise, my friend.
@errorite6653
@errorite6653 3 месяца назад
Best of luck
@user26912
@user26912 3 месяца назад
Sadhu sadhu sadhu, wishing you well in these difficult times
@zappthezapper33
@zappthezapper33 3 месяца назад
@@francismadden8561 you sound very smart. best of luck and may you be happy
@auggied6760
@auggied6760 4 месяца назад
Dawkins cannot escape his own paradigm. Buddhism has primarily to do with alleviating suffering through compassion. And everyone has suffering based on the way they think. This is not a belief, it's a fact of life. And to alleviate suffering has nothing to do with belief; it has to do with coming from the heart.
@AndrewMSmith130
@AndrewMSmith130 4 месяца назад
If you are compassionate to the wrong people, it can increase your suffering I am sorry to say.
@hibernopithecus7500
@hibernopithecus7500 4 месяца назад
@@AndrewMSmith130It could also increase the suffering of many others. But then the opposite is just as true; it could alleviate your suffering & the suffering of many others. All depends on whether you want to choose to succumb to fear.
@HSFY2012
@HSFY2012 4 месяца назад
Everyone may have suffering based on the way they think, but that does not mean that suffering is due to thought alone. Many people have suffering due to physical needs, which compassion does not resolve.
@pch2230
@pch2230 4 месяца назад
Not being able to escape his own paradigm is Dawkin's big problem. His view of the world is narrow and, since it automatically dismisses contradiction, self-perpetuating.
@klowen7778
@klowen7778 4 месяца назад
@@pch2230 Yep, and he also overlooks the wisdom of all the great western thinkers, from Aristotle to Nietzsche to Jung.... that it all begins with "Know Thyself".
@louiselloyd1523
@louiselloyd1523 4 месяца назад
I learned that "happiness only comes from within" many years ago but this isn't easy and external forces or events in one's life can definitely make this more challenging. Practicing gratitude is one way to find this happiness. Also being aware of all the little miracles that surround us every day is another way.
@bmxt939
@bmxt939 4 месяца назад
The problem is, imho, identification with the objects of observation and possession, which not only body, but also so called rational mind is. Like person could become a raging a-hole whilst driving a car, totally merging with the object of possession and the observable process. Or you can forget about your clothes, rings, bracelets, headwear, etc. Body-ego identification is 100 times that combined, that's why it's so powerful. And sceptics whilst being theoretically sceptical about their emergent and elusive mind and personality are totally not sceptical about it in practice, because such practice would shatter their whole narrative and as we say in Russia, they "would be left woth a bare ass in an open/empty field".
@laaaliiiluuu
@laaaliiiluuu 4 месяца назад
Happiness does depend on the outside in that sense though that the worse the external circumstances are the harder it becomes to be internally happy.
@robertjsmith
@robertjsmith 4 месяца назад
@@laaaliiiluuu The inner peace is always there,regardless of what is going on,on the outside.
@dougvinkle6795
@dougvinkle6795 4 месяца назад
Happiness is not the point
@zxbc1
@zxbc1 3 месяца назад
@@robertjsmith Easy to say when not much harmful is going on outside. Go tell that to the millions starving and fearing for their lives daily.
@adim00lah
@adim00lah 4 месяца назад
Dawkins is talking about ordinary happiness which is fleeting, not bliss which is from inside and is not fleeting.
@AD-kv9kj
@AD-kv9kj 4 месяца назад
Dawkins is a plonker. Not that I follow "buddhism" or practice any rituals or believe in anything abstract at all, but I very much respect the foundations of buddhism and it's original teachings have enormous meaning and importance. Dawkins is just another kind of egotism parading itself around as "look how grounded, sensible and tough-minded I am!" and often trampling on others to try and beat them into submission. However much someone may believe in things that aren't true, trying to dominate and bully them down like these people do only creates more defensiveness and more problems. Dawkins could discover a great deal that is profound if he let himself see beyond his own psychological limitations and just observe life quietly with humility as these people try to demonstrate, but he won't. He's already made his mind up on a belief that science is the only thing, and that that in fact rather vague assumptions drawn from certain areas of science are where it ends. Science is the most important tool we have, but trying to use it to therefore believe in the ego as all you are...it's just an endless game isn't it. Science itself shows the clues that the mind, the self-identity is a construction of thought created as we grow up, and that what we fundamentally are IS the organism...therefore we are the whole of existence. The organism is not and never can be separate from everything else, as is the unquestioned assumption still holding back the purely scientific mind. It's very odd because every good scientist should know full well that we are absolutely integrated with the whole environment, and even the entire cosmos that grew us here. That is no proof of any belief at all, but it is a very profound indicator that this conscious awareness we all ARE (not have as is often said) is something much more fundamental to existence than the simple mind we and our particular life circumstances and those around us create. These people do not have the slightest understanding of what real meditation means, to stop focusing on one's endless churning thoughts and just observe what is actually happening now, quietly, and taking in the complete wholeness of it all, which includes oneself.
@adim00lah
@adim00lah 4 месяца назад
@@AD-kv9kj But even at a scientific level, the "happiest man on earth" according to science is a Buddhist monk name Mattieu Ricard. Compassion is truly the key to true happiness according to the dharma, I don't see how listening to music could possibly compare to the cultivation of true happiness, which comes from compassion or what we call bodhicitta (heart mind).
@yj9032
@yj9032 4 месяца назад
The rohingya genocide exposed the fraud that is Buddhism
@OngoGablogian185
@OngoGablogian185 4 месяца назад
No such thing as 'eternal', you word salad-spewing pseudointellectual. You're just making up some weird and incoherent distinction between 'ordinary' happiness and 'inside' everlasting happiness. Inside as opposed to what? All the happiness that's flying around outside my window. And happiness is an emotion. It dies alongside the brain.
@Frozo-nt2ky
@Frozo-nt2ky 4 месяца назад
“Bliss” is not remotely eternal, and both come from “inside”. Grasping at straws now are we?
@charlesnorm4883
@charlesnorm4883 6 месяцев назад
For people who have not mediated extensively, there are interesting experiences that you come across if you do begin meditating regularly. I had an experience at a 10 day silent meditation retreat which I can only describe as being more real than reality (as if the normal waking world was the dream). I don’t meditate much anymore, but there is definitely something to the meditation experience so when this monk says the creative blissful experience one gets in meditation is unmatched, I know exactly what he means. Or at least I do to some extent. You really have to experience it to understand.
@eliteteamkiller319
@eliteteamkiller319 5 месяцев назад
Some times you can stumble upon the elimination of self purely buy accident, and see reality as it truly is for a brief moment.
@paulblack9600
@paulblack9600 5 месяцев назад
Attachment is the most counterintuitive aspect of these teachings it really is confusing sometimes even when you know what is meant by it.The Ego self deliberately misinterperits what is meant it.
@OfficialGOD
@OfficialGOD 5 месяцев назад
@thelostone6981
@thelostone6981 5 месяцев назад
@@Typhoon-2009What does “empirically” mean to you? I’m genuinely curious.
@thelostone6981
@thelostone6981 5 месяцев назад
Sam Harris is a BIG advocate for meditation….do you think he would say the same thing as you? And how do we differentiate between something that is real and something that only happens within the gray matter of our mind? If it’s only within our mind, is it reality?
@darrenbrown7037
@darrenbrown7037 4 месяца назад
He’s such a smart guy that he doesn’t understand the point and direction of this practice. His assumption of “spiritual wisdom,” or “mystical understanding” is his personal bias that he uses to denounce any idea that doesn’t align with his spiritual science mysticism.
@RhetoricalMuse
@RhetoricalMuse 4 месяца назад
It's the words that are used. They are somehwhat 'woo woo'. 'Spiritual' and 'mystical', are not terms that are quantifiable. This is the crux of the issue.
@zxbc1
@zxbc1 3 месяца назад
Science is not mysticism. All mysticism is based on dogma, and science is based on evidence. If tomorrow there's evidence that science is critically flawed and is more destructive than constructive, then scientists would be the first to abandon it. Can't say the same with any religion.
@user26912
@user26912 3 месяца назад
​​​@@RhetoricalMusethe funny thing is that the big anomaly in western science is consciousness and that it cannot be explained rationally or quantified. It can only be understood experientially by living an ethical life and development of the mind. Unfortunate for Dawkins if he hasn't changed is that if you try to explain it rationally, think about the why or how or what then you cannot find the peace and happiness from the practice.
@babbarr77
@babbarr77 4 месяца назад
Three minutes of Buddhism from 2500 years of teachings and 84,000 dharmas, (truths) and it rang true the same as the whole of the treasury of the Buddhist teachings.
@MikeD-tf7dk
@MikeD-tf7dk 4 месяца назад
Yes. Fractal thinking. Like looking at any part of a snowflake structure and seeing the whole
@babbarr77
@babbarr77 4 месяца назад
Excellent .@@MikeD-tf7dk
@KingCocaGold
@KingCocaGold 3 месяца назад
Universities are FULL of IDIOTS who are ONLY an EXPERT in ONE SUBJECT!!
@trig3017
@trig3017 3 года назад
I love Richard Dawkins and agree with most of his views, but this isn't aging very well. Scientific evidence for the psychological benefits of meditation is compounding year after year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, from what I've heard, anybody can follow the ways of Buddhism including atheists, Christians, and Muslims while still staying true to their religion or lack there of. I really want to give meditation a shot, but I'm just way too goddamned lazy.
@RAIRADIO
@RAIRADIO 2 года назад
The principle of yoga is that you let go of your own personal little identities and attachments. So in those moments you cannot be anything, not even Hindu or Buddhist or man or woman or anything definitive. You meditate to feel the universe as is - a continuous play of light and dark and mass and vacuum. It helps you put your own little troubles in perspective, and you come out as a more stable person. But if in those moments some egoistic identity (I am a Sunni or I am a CEO) is still playing in your head, that's not yoga.
@ext1013
@ext1013 2 года назад
you nailed it just keep sitting, one day, you will get it.
@milliondollarmistake
@milliondollarmistake 5 месяцев назад
Dawkins seems to be pretty ignorant on Buddhism here, not in a bad or offensive way though.
@hellboundtruck123
@hellboundtruck123 5 месяцев назад
They legit discovered brain plasticity by studying meditation.
@MrGilRoland
@MrGilRoland 5 месяцев назад
You can stay true to your religion because Buddhism doesn’t ask you to believe in anything. So you can, the question now is: will you?
@VinayakaHalemane
@VinayakaHalemane 4 месяца назад
This is the problem with approaching Eastern philosophy through a Western lens. It is completely different from the ground up, from its most fundamental perspective. It requires a letting go of all notions and ideas one has to be able to grasp the simplicity and universality of Eastern thought. It is all inclusive and meant for everyone at the core of it. And it is ultimately and necessarily experiential. One can talk about it all they want, but at the end they must walk it for themselves to truly "get it." It's much like asking directions to get to a destination, one can talk all they want and figure out all the ways to get there, but ultimately the path has to be walked on by the seeker themself to get there. All talk merely points towards that liberation, it must ultimately be experienced for oneself to truly understand it. This is why Western thinking that relies so much on objectivity fails to grasp the magnificence and simplicity of Eastern thought which emphasises the subjective experience. And ironically enough this opens it up to a universal approach that excludes no one. It is one of the reason why Eastern "religions" need no conversion, one experiential taste of it and the seeker understands it for themselves which keeps them coming back. You could be considered one of the smartest Western thinkers like Dawkins here, but not able to discriminate between intrinsic lasting inner peace that can be tapped into at all times and extrinisic outer "happiness" that is fleeting. Indian philiosophy categorises happiness as Sukha (fleeting happpiness whose counterpart is dukha or sadness) and Ananda which is our true nature (lasting happiness that has no counterpart and requires nothing extrinisic and material). Funny thing is this experience is also something that a lot of Stoic wisdom talks about. So it is not completely foreign to Western thought either.
@sunkintree
@sunkintree 4 месяца назад
Meditation is not at all common to other faiths lol The word meditation shows up a lot in historical documents in say, Europe; they are not talking about eastern meditation, they are referring to thinking about something lol
@jotsingh8917
@jotsingh8917 5 месяцев назад
One of the most anti-dogmatic statement is the Kalam Sutta, or a validation of faith. In the Kalama Sutta the reader is challenged and it questions religious teachings: Mā anussavena: 
Do not believe something just because it has been passed along and retold for many generations. Mā paramparāya: 
Do not believe something merely because it has become a traditional practice. Mā itikirāya: Do not believe something simply because it is well-known everywhere. Mā Pitakasampadanena: Do not believe something just because it is cited in a text. Mā takkahetu: Do not believe something solely on the grounds of logical reasoning. Mā nayahetu: Do not believe something merely because it accords with your philosophy. Mā akaraparivitakkena: Do not believe something because it appeals to "common sense." Mā ditthinijjhanakkhantiya: Do not believe something just because you like the idea. Mā bhabbarupataya: Do not believe something because the speaker seems trustworthy. Mā samano no garu ti: Do not believe something thinking, “This is what our teacher says.”
@sidsmiff
@sidsmiff 5 месяцев назад
This Sutta and my own experience are what keep me firmly Buddhist.
@adamleckius2253
@adamleckius2253 4 месяца назад
Amazing. One can also note the striking similarities to the classic fallacies of argumentation formulated by the Ancient Greek philosophers. Well, maybe they would diverge on the “logical reasoning” one ;)
@weareherbivores
@weareherbivores 4 месяца назад
@@adamleckius2253 logical correctness doesn’t mean the conclusion sound
@twitter.comelomhycy
@twitter.comelomhycy 3 месяца назад
Perfect
@demelza32
@demelza32 3 месяца назад
If it resonates with your natural and innate way of being, free from conditioning and manipulation- it makes sense to me. From investigations into all kinds on the spiritual path, mainstream "religion"is just another external control for the masses, no freedom or true understanding of your inner world and what it actually means. The Buddhist practices (love, compassion, interbeing, wisdom, impermanence, ever changing, etc) have always been within from a young age. It took decades to throw off the shackles of control pushed onto me from birth to uncover it again.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 5 месяцев назад
Buddhism cured me of Catholicism.
@thelostone6981
@thelostone6981 5 месяцев назад
Atheism cured me of Buddhism
@rodneyshackelford7529
@rodneyshackelford7529 2 месяца назад
Buddhism cured me of Orthodoxy.
@kyawswehan
@kyawswehan 6 месяцев назад
Richard is great. But his understanding on Buddhism is of a kid. May be this clip is too short. Where can we find the full video?
@diegoshevek5927
@diegoshevek5927 5 месяцев назад
And a more recent view from him on this subject, this clip is 9 years old
@diegoshevek5927
@diegoshevek5927 4 месяца назад
@@matthewphilip1977 thank you not-Richard for answering in HIS holy name.
@AlexReynard
@AlexReynard 4 месяца назад
A kid pointed out that the emperor had no clothes.
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 4 месяца назад
@@matthewphilip1977 Lol, what a ridiculous argument! You may as well say the Buddhist understands evolution better because he's not bought into all the nonsense...pff!
@matherspolitico9526
@matherspolitico9526 4 месяца назад
⁠@@matthewphilip1977isn’t science a man made concept , if so how is it the truth?
@jshakes1806
@jshakes1806 5 месяцев назад
Dawkins didn't understand the Bhuddist. He wasn't talking specifically about meditation, he was talking about the temporary state of enlightenment we all have achieved atleast once in our lives when we want for nothing else in the moment but the moment itself. It is just that many get this from meditation, others from getting in that flow state from running, music or the when playing an instrument etc. What Dawkins is saying he wants from life is actually what Bhuddism encourages. The purity of thoughts they preach has a purpose, to ease passage through the second bardo state, which you can visit temporarily if you know what you are doing ;)
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 4 месяца назад
The greatest yogis pass through all the bardos in this life.
@jshakes1806
@jshakes1806 4 месяца назад
​@@squamish4244they do, but the second bardo state is the reason they purify their minds.
@patrickfitzgerald4189
@patrickfitzgerald4189 4 месяца назад
Dawkins is a fool.
@miriglith4293
@miriglith4293 3 месяца назад
Dawkins doesn't understand people generally. He's a smart guy by most yardsticks but he has the emotional intelligence of a Commodore 64.
@BlacksmithTWD
@BlacksmithTWD 3 месяца назад
@@patrickfitzgerald4189No, Dawkins is a biologist. Hence when it comes to biology he is an expert. When it comes to general philosophy he doesn't seem no better or worse than any other layman, when it comes to theology he is a nitwit.
@TheDavidfallon
@TheDavidfallon 5 месяцев назад
In his longer discussions of Buddhism, Dawkins simply commits the same logical errors he rightly calls out creationists for making. He also takes the easiest route by providing a simplistic definition of dhamma. Then he only considers Tibetan (Mahayan) views and makes no mention of Theravada.
@ImperatorZed
@ImperatorZed 3 месяца назад
He also doesn't address mormonism and scientology.
@zxbc1
@zxbc1 3 месяца назад
@@ImperatorZed Yes he does. He calls them crazy religions. About as much "addressing" as they deserve.
@zxbc1
@zxbc1 3 месяца назад
What logical errors did he make? Merely saying he made them doesn't count, if you don't elaborate and merely accuses then your accusation is as weightless as slander.
@ImperatorZed
@ImperatorZed 3 месяца назад
@@zxbc1 So the same as Buddhism.
@zxbc1
@zxbc1 3 месяца назад
@@ImperatorZed Buddhism is one of the oldest indoctrinations. It's kind of the grand daddy of dogmatism. One only needs to look at how a devout Buddhist lives to know it.
@clew5687
@clew5687 5 месяцев назад
Closest i can get to meditation is to go out for a motorbike ride, it frees my mind for a while.
@DonnyWoods
@DonnyWoods 5 месяцев назад
Same here
@martinwood744
@martinwood744 4 месяца назад
Ditto. Apart from the bit about going out for a motorbike ride freeing my mind for a while.
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 4 месяца назад
@@martinwood744 Likewise … But with the bit about going out for a motorbike ride freeing my mind for a while.
@mindyourownbusinessfatty
@mindyourownbusinessfatty 4 месяца назад
I went out on a motorbike for a while and it didn't free my mind. Do I need a different motorbike.?
@creamytrumpet7435
@creamytrumpet7435 4 месяца назад
This worked for me for many years, but now thoughts invade while I ride. I've contemplated this problem and wonder whether after after 42 years of riding, it has become so second nature that the levels of concentration needed have lessened. Therefore, the zone one used to be in has diminished??-
@jmcsquared18
@jmcsquared18 4 месяца назад
The west needs a lot more wisdom from eastern traditions, especially Daoism and minfulness meditation from Buddhism. It changes your outlook on what life is supposed to mean for you, as a beautiful experience here and now, rather than as a journey or race to be completed. Alan Watts got me to appreciate that more, and I'm thankful I was able to learn about that on RU-vid.
@zxbc1
@zxbc1 3 месяца назад
Except Buddhism is an inward-looking and regressive religion. That's why Buddhist cultures have been out-competed by other religious societies and cultures. If it was actually more constructive to modern society, it'd have thrived more. You can appreciate it on your own terms but it's objectively inferior as a religion in its ability to accommodate and evolve with the times.
@jordanalimusic
@jordanalimusic 4 месяца назад
The peace and happiness, the tranquility, that you get when you know how to stay alone and go within cannot be matched by anything else.
@ferozreviews
@ferozreviews 6 месяцев назад
Both sides make sense to me, we are all after all alone in this world; we simply can’t get happiness from a pot of gold, a career advancement, marriage, and all the things that we westerners call goals. Instead we gain happiness through satisfaction from living the mundane life - being our own friend and our own Buddha throughout the day. Either through meditation practices and mindfulness or Art, and doing something with ease, passion, and enjoymentt. All of which require commitment and practice daily.
@jatintharkoti2318
@jatintharkoti2318 5 месяцев назад
What about the Dawkins side?
@Ahduciekwndnbbbsvvvghhhyyyyy
@Ahduciekwndnbbbsvvvghhhyyyyy 4 месяца назад
⁠@@jatintharkoti2318they are on the same side, with a slightly different perspective. Dawkins finds happiness in science and music, but to him that seems external. The Buddhist recognise this happiness, but to him this seems internal - “from within”.
@franzhaas5597
@franzhaas5597 4 месяца назад
A lot of people get the false idea that buddhism is not a Believe system but a philosophy. But it is both. buddhist do believe in the supernatural and practical philosophical ideas. Most buddhist, no matter the denomination, believe in spiritual beings. I can't spell what the beings are called. But you get the idea. So at the end of the day buddhism is a belief system Like any other religion.
@user-io6eq9gt6w
@user-io6eq9gt6w 3 месяца назад
but the simple fact is that unlike basically every other religion, you can extract the core (100% of all the fundamental teachings) of Buddhism, and find that core is totally free of anything supernatural, and still call yourself a Buddhist. Original Pali Buddhism was essentially this (the Buddha himself was famously silent on all supernatural topics, such as what happens after we die), and this is why so-called secular Buddhism exists in the west today, which is so in vogue among modern intellectuals and atheists. When you get right down to it, Buddhism is more like a scientific method applied to the internal world, more a form of technology against suffering, than a real belief system. Except in the most basic way imaginable, and in which sense everyone everywhere is a believer. The thing is always this though: practice the four noble truths, and decide for yourself whether it alleviates suffering
@theodosios2615
@theodosios2615 3 месяца назад
Not to mention reincarnation ans the law of karma is at the core of Buddhist teachings. It doesn't get more spiritual/religious than that.
@ImperatorZed
@ImperatorZed 3 месяца назад
​@@user-io6eq9gt6wthat is called new age buddhism and is a western invention and has even less of an actual basis than the many Buddhist religions. It is belief based, not text based.
@jackooooooooo
@jackooooooooo 3 месяца назад
​@@user-io6eq9gt6wi wouldn't call that real buddhism. Most westerners share a good deal with christians in terms of morals. That doesn't make them inherently christian.
@unrealnews
@unrealnews 4 месяца назад
If you seek happiness by looking outward, of course you can find it. What often happens is that people lose their way and the happiness they once found is no longer available to them. The door to that happiness somehow shuts. That door is still available, and by meditating you may find access to that door and the peace and happiness that comes with it.
@The-Great-Brindian
@The-Great-Brindian 3 месяца назад
Prior to delving into the realm of spiritual wisdom, it's crucial to ground yourself in common sense. Additionally, make certain that your moral compass is accurately calibrated.
@harshvishwanathan1135
@harshvishwanathan1135 4 месяца назад
Come on Dawkins, how will you enjoy music if there is going to be so much noise in your mind from suffering? Meditation if done correctly will help you enjoy music 10x more than if you didn’t.
@davidburns6956
@davidburns6956 5 месяцев назад
Meditation is common to many faiths and also secularism. It does not justify or elevate Buddhism. Place Buddhism under the same analysis as other religions and you will find the same practices. The best example is of Buddhism in Bhutan. Although disputed by Buddhist adherents, the findings of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch determined a genocide/ethnic cleansing against southern Nepalese. Or the violence forced on the Rohingya Muslim by Buddhist communities in Myanmar.
@ssudhak2
@ssudhak2 4 месяца назад
Many people in these countries dont practise budhas core teachings. They are just born into these religion.
@NgawangTashi-mv8od
@NgawangTashi-mv8od 3 месяца назад
At the end your problem is Christian are more concern on Buddhist...
@zxbc1
@zxbc1 3 месяца назад
@@ssudhak2 Discounting anybody problematic from your religion despite their professed religiosity is a cop out. Many of these human rights abuses are done precisely in the name of religion and religious disagreement, so saying "all who do evil are not from my religion" is at best ignorant, and at worst dishonest.
@cliffjamesmusic
@cliffjamesmusic 5 лет назад
Happiness and contentment are states of mind. Philosophies built on surviving, accumulating stuff to represent status, as a buffer from death and because of fear of suffering, are a long way from achieving this and indeed go in the opposite direction. Life is a chance to be creative and is there to be enjoyed. If life really becomes too hard, there is always the self-composting option. Not being prepared to be exploited would make things difficult for the sociopathic leaders, for whom exploitation of others is vital. Perhaps it is the life after death religions which help to ensure continued suffering; on the basis that you just need to hold out in this life, you’ll then get into everlasting paradise / heaven. Hope is one of the main shackles to the cycle of continued abuse and exploitation.
@danielschaeffer1294
@danielschaeffer1294 4 месяца назад
Marx thought much the same.
@ngawanggyatso5430
@ngawanggyatso5430 2 года назад
I wish I met Richard Dawkin in dharmsala.. I am sure they have great discussion.
@Two_But_Not_Two
@Two_But_Not_Two 4 месяца назад
Indeed. Meditation has radically improved the quality of my consciousness, or the quality of my being for the better over many, many years. There is a light and a joy that happens during meditation, I believe, because we connect our individuated consciousness to the source consciousness as a whole. They say we're born alone and we die alone. But during meditation I feel anything but alone. I feel held and connected at the deepest level.
@MrRajarshidasgupta
@MrRajarshidasgupta Год назад
Can anyone post the link to tge complete video
@peopleofthecant
@peopleofthecant 4 месяца назад
does anyone know what the monks are chanting in the shot where they show them reading their scriptures? what the chanting is called, and where to hear more of it?
@coldsnap999
@coldsnap999 4 месяца назад
"Mantra"
@coldsnap999
@coldsnap999 4 месяца назад
Mantra
@infinity.of.smoke.and.mirrors
@infinity.of.smoke.and.mirrors 4 месяца назад
I wish this video was longer.
@thunderstruck2727
@thunderstruck2727 4 месяца назад
Full video in description section
@infinity.of.smoke.and.mirrors
@infinity.of.smoke.and.mirrors 4 месяца назад
@@thunderstruck2727 Ah, thank-you! :-)
@oriel9347
@oriel9347 4 месяца назад
So we get to see Dawkins stump him with reality.
@connorstar164
@connorstar164 4 месяца назад
Problem with most athiest, is they criticize before even either reading on it, partaking in it, and practicing it. The dhammapada by Gautama siddartha is very clinical and appeals to the logical mind, but he also wasn’t just some doctor or professor in emotional, devotional and aesthetic practices, in his canonical books like the samayutta Nikaya, he didn’t just consult wise men, other Buddhas, Adiyogis, Brahmins and bodhivistas, he is consulting Gods, deities and other worldly beings, some gave good insights of diligence over negligence like Sakka, others were more rigid in emotional attachments or detachments like Brahma, while the samayutta itself gives accounts of universal Gods like Shiva teaching Buddha the importance of constant movement and experiences, through all this he did a Sadhana, which is a modern way of going to a college university and learning what works and what does not work, the difference between Buddha and many of his disciples which 10 accompanied him on his journey, was he was very fast pace, he could learn very quick, applied what worked, and what didn’t work and mold it in his own rhythms of the dharma chakra, which is now the center fold teachings of Buddhism, also known as the eight fold path, to counter the 4 sukkhas, 4 noble truths of suffering and overcoming it with samsara. It truly is incredible, many of the sutras give insight and practices on how to live simply, not too lazy nor over worry, just have a stream flow of life with its basics. As you go along this path you become wiser, and stronger, and more adept to life’s woes. When reading it, like the Bible, it is as practical as it is mystical, as gurus tell us, dipping into mysticism doesn’t gain or make you super human, but it shows you that being human, is super when you unlock and use your potentials that’s already there. Buddhism as a whole is very good, it takes a snippet of the dharma practiced in Hindusim, but most Hindus would tell you they don’t practice Hindusim, they practice sanatana dharma, they aren’t religious, they are in a spiritual journey. I’m so happy I found the Buddhist books, they always help me when my mind is jumbled up and I can straighten them and instead of being stuck in a corner, I can move with the stream flow. This takes aesthetic practice, along with what most self help books or discipline and motivational of modernity provide, modern ones, which is more tailored to modernity of work, money, priorities, goals, and commune, the only thing most modern books lack are the spiritual sides, for most modernity books make it out as robotic almost emotionless, to the degree one can’t believe that all their is are man made equations and law biding, while our spiritual books from Buddhism, Hindusim, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, go beyond this, to the unknown to be known, and the known to be unknown. After reading the Bible, Quran, some Vedas like the gita, Dhammapada, ect I can unequivocally say that is not only a incredible base to grow from, but to cultivate that connection can elevate you higher to plains not thought possible. Dawkins only wants answers from the possible and shuns anything that appears impossible, yet doesn’t even see in the word itself, impossible, when broken down, says…I’m-possible. So when one says God is impossible, the voice within is saying, through God…I’m-possible. Whether Elohim, Yahweh, Allah, Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu, or gods of their ordnance, you can reach them by following the foot prints and foot steps they left for us to follow. Follow.
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov 4 месяца назад
Poo in Loo Bobs and Vegene ass
@sibanought
@sibanought 4 месяца назад
I wonder if you're aware that Gautama the Buddha was also an atheist?
@twitter.comelomhycy
@twitter.comelomhycy 3 месяца назад
Okay
@jackooooooooo
@jackooooooooo 3 месяца назад
​@@sibanoughtThe asian have a different religious structure than westerners. He was largely agnostic, or did not feel it was necessary to his teachings.
@perigee1275
@perigee1275 4 месяца назад
I agree with them both. True happiness comes from within, but Buddhism also states that your physical health is crucial to achieving that state and there is a great deal of science in staying healthy.
@vuxsux305
@vuxsux305 4 месяца назад
Everything is science, and just because a scientist can't explain something doesn't make it any less scientific.
@AUTUMN-DARK
@AUTUMN-DARK 4 месяца назад
Nothing good about Buddhism requires you to be a Buddhist... Lot of butt hurt Spiritual egotistical apologists in this comment section who ironically feel a need to profess their superior lack of ego 😂 And It's always robes and magic hats with these people.....and a loooot of dudes.
@AUTUMN-DARK
@AUTUMN-DARK 4 месяца назад
Nothing good about Buddhism requires you to be a Buddhist, dress like a weirdo And live on a mountain. Lot of butt hurt Spiritual egotistical apologists in this comment section who ironically feel a need to profess their superior lack of ego though 😂 And It's always robes and magic hats with these people.... Lot of dudes too.... Loooot of dudes.
@AUTUMN-DARK
@AUTUMN-DARK 4 месяца назад
Nothing good about Buddhism requires you to be a Buddhist, dress like a weirdo Amd live on a mountain. Lot of butt hurt Spiritual egotistical apologists in this comment section who ironically feel a need to profess their superior lack of ego though 😂 And It's always robes and magic hats with these people.... Lot of dudes too.... Loooot of dudes.
@AUTUMN-DARK
@AUTUMN-DARK 4 месяца назад
Nothing good about Buddhism requires you to be a Buddhist, dress like a weirdo And live on a mountain. Lot of butt hurt Spiritual egotistical apologists in this comment section who ironically feel a need to profess their superior lack of ego though 😂 And It's always robes and magic hats with these people.... Lot of dudes too.... Loooot of dudes.
@AlexKellyArtUK
@AlexKellyArtUK 3 месяца назад
It does highlight the radical idea of what the Buddha taught - many people either can’t imagine or dismiss as unrealistic that there can be a dimension of experience that is completely satisfying, perfect in every way that it makes any other experience based on the six senses pale in comparison. An experience so profound that even death can’t disturb it.
@ActiveAdvocate1
@ActiveAdvocate1 5 лет назад
2:32 i knew there was a "but" coming, but considering that this is Dawkins, it was a fairly respectful "but". He's usually much more condescending.
@JJ-dj6yg
@JJ-dj6yg 4 месяца назад
Old post but I think this is because at a fundamental level Buddhism is unlike other dogmatic religions. A religion truly based on peace, in an attempt to reduce inevitable suffering is actually a noble thing unlike nameless other religions.
@JK-ji3kl
@JK-ji3kl 3 месяца назад
Nah it's pretty dogmatic
@existentialbaby
@existentialbaby 5 лет назад
India is beautiful. Dawkins is great.
@buddhistphilosopher800
@buddhistphilosopher800 3 года назад
No, he's not "great".He's an arrogant dogmatic materialist, who blindly believes that living beigs are just mere biological machines determined by their dna and natural selection. He lacks any sense of transcendence beyond matter.
@abhinavchauhan7864
@abhinavchauhan7864 2 года назад
@@buddhistphilosopher800 which is the truth
@buddhistphilosopher800
@buddhistphilosopher800 2 года назад
@@abhinavchauhan7864 I have to tell you *No*
@abhinavchauhan7864
@abhinavchauhan7864 2 года назад
@@buddhistphilosopher800 how ?
@Illawong
@Illawong 2 года назад
@@buddhistphilosopher800 Richard Dawkins is not a materialist. And virtually every intelligent person believes in evolution and that we are biological beings determined by our DNA. I do not understand why you would include the word "mere" in talking about the wonder of evolution. Saying that he does not believe in fantasy is hardly a criticism.
@ajoybaksi3654
@ajoybaksi3654 3 месяца назад
For RD and others. Please distinguish between Thervada (Hinayana) and Mahayana branches and approaches. Where to begin to seek what the Buddha originally said, versus severe alteration and reinterpretation by others - mostly well meaning people?
@this_alec
@this_alec 2 месяца назад
What happens when you run out of art, music, and scientific curiosities? I love how Geshe Lhakor nods, "yes, yes" when Dawkins talks about finding joy in the world. Buddhism isn't about not enjoying life, the "external" world. But it's about seeing how your "internal" world truly shapes your experience of the "outside" world. It's about learning how to settle into each moment as it is. True happiness, beyond happiness.
@evanpage2540
@evanpage2540 2 года назад
The scientific mind will always try to understand it, but there's nothing to understand. If you think you know you don't know. If you know you don't know, you know.
@thehiddenyogi8557
@thehiddenyogi8557 6 лет назад
Not about "going within" like a prairie dog hiding in its hole, but more like self-knowledge, Mr. Dawkins. Stilling the mind so that you can recognize the Mind As It Is apart from its projections, fluctuations, and conceptual elaborations (thoughts).... Knowing the Mind as it is is in fact an empirical investigation just as rational as any scientific method used to observe physical events. Listening to music with all of your attention can still the mind as well, but if you are not observing the mind then you will not gain any self-knowledge but you will become a conneiseur of good music, which is fine.
@user-ej6db2bb3t
@user-ej6db2bb3t 4 месяца назад
Dawkins is unfamiliar with self knowledge. He has no interest in it or curiosity about it. His only interest is stubbornly asserting his own narrow, ignorant belief system and mocking or intimidating anyone who challenges it. He’s an utter bore.
@user-mc6tr1vp2v
@user-mc6tr1vp2v 3 месяца назад
The happiness that comes from peace of mind is incomparable.
@farrider3339
@farrider3339 5 месяцев назад
Meditation for happiness, peace and tranquillity is a mere declaration against nature the way it is. A FIGHT for a fleeting state of mind without closure
@thelostone6981
@thelostone6981 5 месяцев назад
Or an escape for those who can’t deal with reality
@StClare_
@StClare_ 5 месяцев назад
What would you suggest as an alternative?
@farrider3339
@farrider3339 5 месяцев назад
@@StClare_ an observation on the suchness (thatata) of things and events. No exclusions. Happiness doctrine is misleading. Happiness happen of itself so and not on demand. Natural state.
@sibanought
@sibanought 4 месяца назад
​@@farrider3339Finally, amongst all the people in these comments espousing what they mistakenly understand the purpose of buddhist meditation to be - someone who actually understands what it in fact is!! AND you didn't find it nessecary to attack Mr Dawkins in your explanation of dhamma !! 👍
@mehulbhatt747
@mehulbhatt747 4 месяца назад
Humans have discovered two tools to understand reality beyond what we can “sense” with our sensory organs. One is mathematics. Science is based on top of it. Second is meditation. Both math and meditation can take years of practice and learning. And you may still not get it. Both should be approached with open mind and curiosity.
@gohannesgrahms
@gohannesgrahms 4 месяца назад
the more I hear Dawkins speak, the more I hear his fundamentalism. his approach to science and understanding is not just skepticism, but cynicism.
@peteconrad2077
@peteconrad2077 4 месяца назад
Projection on your part.
@jonrixbus
@jonrixbus 4 месяца назад
I think Dawkins is brilliant when it comes to the understanding of our species and its origin, but I wouldn't go to him for advice about happiness and meaning. He is a hardcore scientific and logical person (imho) but buddhism goes beyond logic, and that's why he struggles to understand it.
@peteconrad2077
@peteconrad2077 4 месяца назад
@@jonrixbus listen to Sam Harris about Buddhism which he has studied closely over a long period. He demonstrates that even though Buddhist practices and meditation provide an excellent non theological spirituality, this is rooted in neurological phenomena.
@jonrixbus
@jonrixbus 4 месяца назад
@@peteconrad2077 Thank you for the tip. I totally agree.
@tonynoonan3723
@tonynoonan3723 3 месяца назад
@@peteconrad2077 The only time I would listen to anything S Harris has to say is if I was deaf. He contains a terrible combination of arrogance and ignorance. On almost any topic he has been proven wrong,his position on CV and Vs shows his inability to perceive reality and his neuroscience is basic at best.
@dactylntrochee
@dactylntrochee 4 месяца назад
Eastern and Western people all grapple with the line between assertion and acceptance. In a snowstorm, any sensible person changes the environment to be more suitable. (e.g. fire and clothing) But how much will should one assert before becoming aggressive? Why and when to take a strong position -- in either direction? We all draw a line, and it's in different places for different groups. It seems to me that most Buddhism lies toward the accepting end of the spectrum. Is acceptance the same as passivity? Those are pretty nuanced words, to be discussed in a situation more august than RU-vid.
@Robert-nz3te
@Robert-nz3te 3 месяца назад
Everyone of our thoughts and actions affects everyone, everything, the whole universe. Nothing happens in isolation.
@louiss4672
@louiss4672 3 года назад
He doesn't understand that you can't science experiential consciousness.
@ivan5844
@ivan5844 6 месяцев назад
yes you can.
@derrvohn3856
@derrvohn3856 5 месяцев назад
@@ivan5844 No you cant
@counterintuitivepanda4555
@counterintuitivepanda4555 5 месяцев назад
@@ivan5844impossible. It’s the problem of quantum physics. David bohm accepted this.
@kookamunga2458
@kookamunga2458 5 месяцев назад
Lots of people did scientific research about consciousness. Famous psychonauts such as Terence McKenna , Timothy Leary are just the two that come to mind but there are others .
@zxbc1
@zxbc1 3 месяца назад
We don't know we can't, we're finding out more ways to get closer to doing it as we speak. At the end of the day, we don't know what consciousness is, but science is getting more progress done in a hundred years than religions have done over thousands.
@dwen5065
@dwen5065 5 месяцев назад
Life is a story we tell ourselves. Dealing with a faulty story is the key towards a more tranquil life. Not materialism. Then engage with the world as an interdependent and integral part of it. That’s it. But we are lost. Our culture is misguided and misinforming us. We are still animals that just woke up, groggily trying to understand what is all around us as we blink our eyes in fear of the unknown as we first see it. Now life is also forced upon us by circumstance. A disability, a bad parent, a restrictive culture, an accident. But how you relate to that, the story you tell yourself about that circumstance is still of central importance. I certainly don’t believe in any gods I have heard of. God is way beyond our comprehension, basically by definition. That is what gives us freedom. What do we do with it? Currently, we act out our instincts, which are largely based on fear. Especially rhetoric fear of the other. Especially fear of the other tribe. Of course, procreation is the central driver of all life and man, being an Uber-social organism, is fixated on social hierarchy. Status. So we accumulate trinkets to display our status and attract mates. This is a dominant characteristic of the male of the species Homo sapiens. That’s it in a nutshell. Throw out all the mystical and spiritual crap. That is your own projection. But that is a near impossible task, especially at our current state of biological and cultural state of evolution. We need to evolve more, which means mass death and survival of freak populations / tribes. This is such a happenstance process that there is little hope for any form of utopia, especially given how our ignorance continues to lead to despoilation of Earth biodiversity and ecosystems. So enjoy this “mess”. It is life. Death defines life, both personally and collectively, including the species level.
@ext1013
@ext1013 2 года назад
In a way, they are on the same page but ultimately both will not bow that one's belief is better than the other. it's just our 'selfish altruistic gene' i guess. so far, i guess, this is the most productive, positive, and true talk about what dawkins is seeking. i can say, buddhism is not for everybody. geshe lhakdor sees what dawkins is saying but if dawkins will see buddhism, he's atheistic belief will be gone and of course, he doesn't want that to happen. again, the reality of selfish gene. as a practicing buddhist, i am so interested in dawkins intellect. i guess, my belief leads me here.
@vetiarvind
@vetiarvind 3 месяца назад
“I find it in music, not by looking inwards.” But that is just music forcing your mind to jiggle to some patterns and the feeling of happiness is inwards...Music introverts the mind.
@dpelpal
@dpelpal 3 месяца назад
Dawkins got owned, sorry. The thing is, he's an atheist and thats how he was coming at this monk. But at its heart, buddhism isnt really a religion. The benefits of meditation are proven, and who amongst us couldnt benefit by following some of the buddhist precepts like abstaining from harming yourself or others? Im all for disproving the world's religions, but Dawkins was way off base here.🤷‍♀️
@Jason-us4ye
@Jason-us4ye 5 месяцев назад
Not sure how he can "half understand" this - but hey that's where he was at - any where everyone is at, is exactly where they are meant to be - May a seed of understanding from the creator be planted inside his heart, which will one day germinate into a beautiful loving peace for him. Amen 🙏
@VanoArts
@VanoArts 4 месяца назад
i also only half understand it. like the attachment to other people. why should we lose it. we are social beings. other people is what gives me meaning so why would i live a numb, detached, neutral life
@twisted_nether373
@twisted_nether373 4 месяца назад
@@VanoArts Because attachments to anything at all is harmful, it opens a door to desire, which is the source of perpetual sorrow in Buddhism. No one's asking you to go live in a desert away from humans, but you cannot be... as dependent as most people are today. Frankly, I'm a little surprised it didn't make sense to Dawkins. I learnt of the principles of Buddhism in my early teens, and nothing had made more sense to me before.
@VanoArts
@VanoArts 4 месяца назад
@@twisted_nether373 i want to feel sorrow, i want to feel happiness, i want to feel sadness, i want to be a human, i am grateful that i can experience different emotions. so i guess i have to do exactly the opposite of what buddhists do. i want to love fully. imagine a mother who isnt attached to her child. what is this? should we just be psychopaths according to buddhism? i understand if it is about material things. dont be attached to a car for example. that makes sense but for humans?
@Zulay092
@Zulay092 4 месяца назад
@@VanoArts I'm no expert, but according do buddhism, everything and everyone around is not gonna give you everlasting happiness since it can be taken away from you, so they detach from everything and meditate in order to escape suffering, but i can understand it's hard to grasp unless you have meditated deeply, and opened up new understanding of reality.
@bike4aday
@bike4aday 4 месяца назад
@@VanoArts Attachment is what causes numbness, indifference, suppressed emotions, etc. To detach means to embrace everything that comes and let go of everything that goes. It is the "unconditional" part of unconditional love!
@karimmoukaddem4491
@karimmoukaddem4491 2 месяца назад
There is a little story that Dawkins should listen to. A monk was climbing a mountain to get to the top in search of enlightenment. On the way he met another monk and asked him about the Buddha. The monk replied 'if on the way to meet the Buddha you see the Buddha then kill the Buddha'. What he was basically saying is that one should not be instructed by someone else without proof. Don't believe blindly but experience things for themselves and then draw conclusions. If meditating brings you happiness then who are you to judge me? And that is more scientific than dismissing someone else's claims without experiencing them.
@film_nirvana
@film_nirvana 4 месяца назад
the meditation that is utilitarian in any sense, is not real meditation. meditation for peace, for happiness for any 'purpose' is not meditation. Meditation in fact is the realization of the nature of purpose itself. The end in itself is what meditation is. after than one can aim for health, he will be healthy, one can aim for wealth he would be wealthy. one can aim to be wise and he would be wise.
@twilightbin
@twilightbin 4 месяца назад
If your mind is a mess, jumping everywhere and causing you serious problems it's hard to do anything. I suspect Richard D's mind is already pretty calm so he doesn't appreciate the value of meditating. Once you meditate your mind is much more calm and clear. And it's only with a clear mind that you can really appreciate music and science.
@Haraex
@Haraex 4 месяца назад
Yeah but meditation can be done without religious bs. Infact it can be done in more effective way
@twilightbin
@twilightbin 4 месяца назад
@@Haraex Yea I agree. A lot of Buddhists are secular
@twitter.comelomhycy
@twitter.comelomhycy 3 месяца назад
True
@altnarrative
@altnarrative 3 месяца назад
Dawkins is even against looking inwards and meditation 🤦‍♂️
@pertinaciousD
@pertinaciousD 4 месяца назад
I think what he doesn't grasp is that Buddhism is about being with the Self as no self, when all the other things are put to one side and we just sit with the 'is-ness' of how things are when there's nothing to hold on to, no music, culture, science to amuse and inspire us.
@sawilliams
@sawilliams 4 месяца назад
Why do they have so many physical things:, bells, books, traditions
@childfreesingleandatheist8899
@childfreesingleandatheist8899 4 месяца назад
I think there's a difference in being materialistic, which we all are, and being overly materialistic.
@WESTERNHEALTH1
@WESTERNHEALTH1 4 месяца назад
Richard didn’t get it
@michaelelliott1212
@michaelelliott1212 4 месяца назад
Dawkins is a legend in his own mind. With his bird's eye view, he's an expert on all things religious from afar.
@itsdavidmora
@itsdavidmora 4 месяца назад
I feel Dawkins has missed the mark here completely here. He's appraised Buddhism as yet another form of self-focused spirituality, divorced of the rigorous observance of science. To this point, he bizarrely summarizes Buddhism as seeking to remove all attachment (roughly accurate to one of the results, but not to the purpose or method). In reality, at its core, Buddhism is just as scientific as science itself: it uses careful, non-judgemental observation to assess the true nature of the mind, and by extension the reality the mind creates. This form of observation is more foundational than any scientific inquiry we might do using the (often unscrutinized) mind. Richard, maybe try actually practicing meditation, I think you'd really learn a lot!
@martinsapsitis4292
@martinsapsitis4292 4 месяца назад
Got to love Ricardo, savvy thinker!
@neilpinto7126
@neilpinto7126 6 лет назад
Why is always the most superstitious form of Buddhism (Vajrayana) always given the limelight? Thervada is the most purest and may I dare say the most rational form of Buddhism.
@thehiddenyogi8557
@thehiddenyogi8557 6 лет назад
On the surface from an outside point of view Vajrayana seems the most superstitious. And it is true that a lot of practitioners are not monks and get hung up on the superstitious elements, much like lay people in theravada countries. However, from a meditation practice point of view, Vajrayana is just as valid as Theravada and has its own unique areas where it shines. This lama in the video represents the Gelugpa school, which shares your view to some extent, but doesn't totally dismiss Vajrayana. Tibetan Buddhism isn't just Vajrayana, but preserves the sutrayana teachings and practices as well. I must defend such traditions as Mahamudra and Dzogchen and the inner tantra yogas as being very amazingly rich and powerful insight traditions. Many outsiders who are exposed to Vajrayana see the Outer Tantra traditions, which I agree are very superstitious and place so much importance on proper ritual purity and so on. But these are lower tantras and not the supreme understanding of Vajrayana. The supreme understanding of Vajrayana are the inner tantras (and Mahamudra and Dzogchen) regarding the Nature of Mind and continuing in that recognition in all aspects of life while in Sahaja Samadhi.... Peace and Blessings and salutations to you Neil Pinto! Theravada is great as well! Much respect and admiration to all these teachings. Something for everybody!
@tsshisonam5686
@tsshisonam5686 6 лет назад
+Vasu Srivastava yes Theravada is Buddha is frist teaching mahayana tradition Buddha is teach in rajgir and second teaching..if mahayana tradition Buddha is not teaching then Buddha is just simply human because 3th noble truth is very very explain in mahayana tradition Now scientists are very interest mahayana tradition Buddha is teaching you read nalanda master like nagarjuna is book and some other nalanda master book then you find New thinking and idea....
@dawnfm00
@dawnfm00 5 лет назад
Neil Pinto Very true, Mahayana Buddhism is a brahmanized version of Buddha's teachings.
@ladakhthroughages.6286
@ladakhthroughages.6286 3 года назад
@@dawnfm00 ...hmmm. That means you are quite blank about Mahayana tradition. Feeling pity for you. 😍🙌
@ladakhthroughages.6286
@ladakhthroughages.6286 3 года назад
@@RadicallyGreen Best or worse can’t be generalised. What is best for you may not be best for me. There is no doubt about this fact that all traditions of Buddhism are superb and best. But which best suits you is your understanding of the tradition not just superficially, but in its core essence. For me without Pragya pramitas sutta, Buddhism is quite shallow.
@declanmills
@declanmills 4 месяца назад
Served. Happiness is fickle and transitory. Joy is from deep within and not as susceptible external conditions. The difficulty is truly realising that we pour joy from deep within ourselves into whatever the present circumstances are and not the other way round.
@realtalk5329
@realtalk5329 4 месяца назад
They're not saying u can't do fun things its just that u should go within first
@Alex-vk9rx
@Alex-vk9rx 4 месяца назад
Dharamsala is such a magical place. I wish I could go back there.
@danielvelez5923
@danielvelez5923 7 лет назад
Buddhism is da master key 2 liberation
@sayavaya6722
@sayavaya6722 6 лет назад
No it's not all religions are lies including those with better pr campaigns
@aden060
@aden060 5 лет назад
@@sayavaya6722 buddhism isn't a religion
@Rainfizzle
@Rainfizzle 3 года назад
@@aden060 yes it is lol
@aden060
@aden060 3 года назад
@@Rainfizzle it isn't it's a philosophy literally no deities are worshipped The same applies to adveita vedanta of Hinduism
@Rainfizzle
@Rainfizzle 3 года назад
@@aden060 you don’t need to worship a deity for it to be a religion. Scientology, Jainism, some forms of atheistic Satanism, even some forms of progressive Christianity and Judaism, and of course Buddhism are some examples. You act like nontheistic religions don’t exist. Google is free. Google literally says it is the world’s 4th largest RELIGION. 😂 Bing says it is a widespread Asian religion. Yahoo says it is an Indian religion. I can go on and on.
@AlexReynard
@AlexReynard 4 месяца назад
The thing that troubles me about Buddhism is that it seems like the ultimate goal is to die before you die. We're here in this world, where there are material things and other people. Yes, we can achieve happiness without them. But dead people don't want anything either. Dead people are perfectly peaceful and still. Imagine being led to a candy store, and you sit on the floor in silence instead of eating anything, because in your view it is wiser to avoid a possible tummyache.
@Demonizer5134
@Demonizer5134 4 месяца назад
Why does Dawkins get shit on so much by religious people? I don't see him being unkind or disrespectful to people who are spiritual, he's just conversing with them and trying to learn. I have read that Dawkins is a mean spirited person but I have never gotten that impression from him. Richard Dawkins is totally cool.
@bavingeter423
@bavingeter423 3 месяца назад
The dude is a condescending, throbbing prick. Thrice divorced, highly neurotic, and plainly miserable.
@perfectlyroundcircle
@perfectlyroundcircle 3 месяца назад
I get that you religious types hate Dawkins, but at least shitpost about him on the right video, where there's a heated debate. This is just a clip showing both people aren't in complete agreement, but see some merits in each view. It's a very respectful and calm discussion. So... relax, alright? I see so many in the comments here talking about eternal bliss, and then being downright hateful and arrogant for no good reason at all.
@krisscanlon4051
@krisscanlon4051 4 месяца назад
I got sober in 2012 then I turned inward...I also was 43 now I continue to use esoteric philosophy to assist with my overall well-being. I learned much from it all...ive no words to say...hard to explain.
@Earth098
@Earth098 3 года назад
Buddhism is not exactly a religion, but a philosophy. It has turned into an establish religion, because back in the old days, there were no such thing as academic philosophy, people just worshiped ideas and figures. Unfortunately today, Buddhism has turned into an established religion and it's hard to find the real Buddhist philosophy.
@Pantoffla
@Pantoffla 3 года назад
Buddhism is a religion, dhamma is not
@buddhistphilosopher800
@buddhistphilosopher800 3 года назад
You should do a serious research because what you said is all wrong.
@Pantoffla
@Pantoffla 3 года назад
@@buddhistphilosopher800 that One way off perspective. You know the" religius" element in Dharma is faith. Buddha makes it clear in dhamma if what he tesches resonets with you, you must have Faith. Faith in Karma. Buddhas while dharma rest on Faith in Karma and morals. Thats THE only thing. Buddha is some thimes dogmatic about Faith in karma , moral and right wiew -underdtanding. People mix upp dharma and the phenomen buddhism. Buddha makes its allso clear to all Dharma Friends that we dont use rituals - prayors for cleansing and so on. "It is al in our mind" BuddhISM is a nother thing. It is a branch from dharma. Its is a phenomen and some off These ism Ore branches är far away from right wiew and undeestanding of Dharma. All forms off buddhism is religius and some are wery influeted from Brahma hinduism. Expaxialy mahayana is influeted heavy from brahmaism. This is One way off undeestanding from dharma and historic perspective.
@buddhistphilosopher800
@buddhistphilosopher800 3 года назад
@@Pantoffla The Buddha did teach Faith, faith based on conviction, based on the positive, useful, and beneficial outcome of the practice. This is the lesson that concludes the Kalamas Sutta. As the Holiness of him the Dalai Lama teaches - faith based on reason. No genuine Buddhist tradition that I know of teaches the Dharma based on blind faith. Although it is fair to say that there are elements that only an Awakened One can see, like rebirth and the six realms of life. I have no idea where you get that the Buddha is dogmatic, on the contrary, he explained over and over again over the years how and why to apply the three trainings - Silha, Samadhi, and Prajna. I think it is actually you who mix your anticlerical ideas with what is the Buddhist religious system. Which is a transcendental religion, destined to be abandoned once the fruits of the practice have been achieved. In the Pali canon the Buddha explains that purification through body baths is useless, but the Vajrayana which is the resulting vehicle, if he can use karma purification practices. Do not mix the causal vehicle of Sutra with the resulting vehicle of Tantra. The Mahayana is not influenced by Brahmanism, on the contrary, the Buddhist philosophers debated all the time against the Hindus. The Mahayana is based on the path of the Bodhisattva, Prajñaparamita, and Bodhicitta, totally unkown in the hinduist traditions. To conclude, you make many kind of slogans claims but I am afraid that you not only have misinterpretations of the buddhist teachings and how the buddhist system works, but you make a fictitious projection of your anticlericalism on Buddhism.
@Pantoffla
@Pantoffla 3 года назад
@@buddhistphilosopher800 whel thats just your oppinion and another way of seeing it.
@kyawkyawwin1
@kyawkyawwin1 4 месяца назад
Striving for material possessions and attachment to them will only lead to suffering and, sadly, in the end, attachment to humans results in the same. We all suffer.
@lobsangjamphel9264
@lobsangjamphel9264 3 года назад
good
@RLekhy
@RLekhy 6 лет назад
I have failed to understand why the monk says the west is a materialist. Buddhism is neither idealist nor the west is a materialist. Buddhism is a midway. Buddha negated two extremes: views of eternalism and view of annihilation. Buddha did not believe in the eternal soul and even he denied to say that body and mind are same or different. Buddha did not believe in creator God but accepted the existence of gods which are no more than extraterrestrial lives. Similarly, there was no single Greek-roman philosopher who did not believe in God or gods. After the downlfall of Greeko-Roman civilization, the most theocentric religion Christianity prevailed all over the West. Western society has always been intolerant towards atheism. In contrast, we see there were many radical atheist schools in Buddhist India. When 17th century modern science took place then immediately modern science reached to Asia. In fact, without Asian science, Europe could never achieve scientific revolution. So we need to stop this fake dichotomy.
@thehiddenyogi8557
@thehiddenyogi8557 6 лет назад
It is because, sad to say, the standard prejudiced view of Easterners towards Westerners. Easterners who don't really know or understand Westerners judge westerners from outside the culture and say that westerners are materialistic because we aren't as poor. But the average Easterner who isn't a monk is just as materialistic as any westerner, maybe even moreso, they all want the American Dream. Americans however are somewhat disillusioned with the American dream. The west used to fetishize Tibetans a lot more than we do now. They used to think Tibetans were all enlightened mystical people living in some kind of idyllic Shangri-la in the rooftop of the world in some perfect spiritual society. Nowadays that view is still around, but not to the same extent as it used to be, but many Tibetans still have their stereotypocal prejudice of Westerners, but thankfully, not to the same extent also.
@Ck-zk3we
@Ck-zk3we 5 лет назад
they dont believe the material world is anything but an illusion.
@MrMikkyn
@MrMikkyn 5 лет назад
There is a difference. And Richard Dawkins agreed with the monk. But there are countries like South Korea who are also incredibly materialistic. Their whole music industry is based on material consumption. If you look at a Buddhist Monk lifestyle from a Capitalist perspective it is an extreme. Richard Dawkins says it later in the interview that what the monks are doing is a form of escapism and running away from the world, rather than facing it and deaing with it head on. Of course these are the difference between east and western philosophy. Eastern is more about Conuficianism, Taoism and Buddhism whilst the West is more Capitalist Materialist Scientific And Judeo Christian.
@buddhistphilosopher800
@buddhistphilosopher800 3 года назад
R. Leaky its's simple: through deep samadhi, Geshe Lakdor recognise the true nature of his mind, so everything apart from that is very poor.
@silencemeviolateme6076
@silencemeviolateme6076 5 месяцев назад
What Asian science?
@jamespicklehead5610
@jamespicklehead5610 4 года назад
If Buddhism is a religion, it's the least religious one. Tibetan is more like a religion then zen. But. Buddhism is in agreement with science mostly. No god. Literal reincarnation is not required belief. I know ordained zen priests who don't believe it.
@Pantoffla
@Pantoffla 3 года назад
Buddhism is a religion off different wiewse. Dhamma is not an religion.
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 2 года назад
No, orginal budhist monks believe in all that which most of athiests call fake.
@Sawo-500
@Sawo-500 11 месяцев назад
Tibetan buddhism is not real Buddhism. Theravada Buddhism is a real Buddhism
@trentw.3566
@trentw.3566 5 месяцев назад
I know an ordained Zen priest who is psychopathic, and he's not a rarity in that tradition. Cluster B's flock to religion to control other people. Anyway who cares what antirational opportunists of the Zen variety believe or don't believe, basically all they care about is their own chill and effectiveness.
@jamescampbell2521
@jamescampbell2521 4 месяца назад
I understand there has been a scientific study of meditation that confirms its benefits.
@blucat4
@blucat4 4 месяца назад
This was very short and didn't show much of Richard's thoughts on Buddhism. Still ok though.
@garyjaensch7143
@garyjaensch7143 3 года назад
Has Dawkins ever had a go at Sam harris for his Buddhist beliefs? Funny how a religion that says you have many lives, and the goal is not to go to samsara, but to nowhere called nirvana where there is no sense of self, appeals to Sam, but not Christianity where the goal is life!
@1999NIRUPAM
@1999NIRUPAM 3 года назад
No The real Christian goal is heaven. That’s why it doesn’t appeal to us intellectuals who understand that there is no division between the physical universe and us hence as long as this world exists life persists in different forms and all forms are one movement. you have many lives but ‘you’ is not real. There is no you. The sooner you realize the better for you.
@garyjaensch7143
@garyjaensch7143 3 года назад
@@1999NIRUPAM so if you are intellectual, explain how you know the real Christians Goal, and explain how you is nothing?
@DipayanPyne94
@DipayanPyne94 3 года назад
Oh. Did you just say that the goal is 'nowhere called Nirvana' ? Jeez. You guys never do any research. Not even basic reading. Sad ...
@chilldragon4752
@chilldragon4752 2 года назад
@@garyjaensch7143 I was a Christan for 20 years. I can say with absolute confidence that the goal is to reach heaven for Christans. When you say "how do you explain you are nothing" I'm not really sure what you mean because you didn't clarify that. I'm assuming you mean the buddhist idea of "non-self" which doesn't really you that you are nothing or that you don't have an identity, it simply means that we are not totally independent of many things. For example you take away our heart, the sun, air, water, food, and we die because we require these things to live thus we are not independent beings. Sorry for rambling I studied world religions in college.
@briansmith3791
@briansmith3791 5 месяцев назад
Whaaa? Harris is no buddhist. Does he actually claim that? The same man who attempted to bring the use of torture and first-use nuclear strike to the discussion table? ( End of Faith) His support for Israel even now belies all his claims.
@satireofcircumstance6458
@satireofcircumstance6458 3 месяца назад
People tend to be fans of Dawkins and Hitchens et al until they grow up and realise how hollow and completely unsatisfactory their brand of atheism is as an account of reality as it is experienced by actual human beings.
@oongieboongie
@oongieboongie 3 месяца назад
Here's the deal. Benefits of meditation are clearly backed by science. There Isn't any "woo-woo" in meditation because it is observable through brain scans. There's no reason an atheist couldn't be a Buddhist either, many Buddhas don't even believe in reincarnation etc. No correct way to do Buddhism.
@pascalbogaert4587
@pascalbogaert4587 3 месяца назад
Hahahahahahahahaaaaahhaaaahahahahahaaaa
@johnpublic1068
@johnpublic1068 3 месяца назад
Reject atheism, drink the delicious Kool-Aid!
@Ahduciekwndnbbbsvvvghhhyyyyy
@Ahduciekwndnbbbsvvvghhhyyyyy 4 месяца назад
I don’t know what Dawkins said here that makes everyone take a side. They don’t even disagree? Dawkins is sharing that he gets happiness from music, and that this doesn’t seem like coming “from within”. The Buddhist sees his point, but points out that it actually is!
@bike4aday
@bike4aday 4 месяца назад
Dawkins is deriving happiness from the sound of music, rhythm and melody, but the Buddhist is deriving happiness from the nature of music, impermanence and no-self. These are very different ways of engaging with music.
@twitter.comelomhycy
@twitter.comelomhycy 3 месяца назад
They're the same@@bike4aday
@bike4aday
@bike4aday 3 месяца назад
If they are the same then why can you see one and not the other?
@davidc4408
@davidc4408 4 месяца назад
Meditation does work. You can separate problems in life and focus on goals.
@jesusbermudez6775
@jesusbermudez6775 4 месяца назад
I went up a mountain and came down with mental security.
@ataraxia7439
@ataraxia7439 3 месяца назад
I think it’s an unfortunate aspect of our psychology that when ever we find a valuable insight or solution to some issues we apply it too broadly. It’s very true that you can vastly increase your sense of well-being by changing that nature of your inner mind and I can totally see how someone figuring that out in a society that seems laser focused on material circumstances would feel like they found the secrets to the universe but I still think it’s very incomplete and dangerous to see it as the only thing you should focus on. There’s a point where it becomes a form of self induced form wire heading that’s destructive in a way I don’t think people realize. Although things like having a lot of expensive possessions or fancy clothes or zero stressors all have diminishing returns on well-being, it’s still just a reality that one’s external reality has a big impact on well being and we should work to try to make that as good for everyone as we can. I don’t want to live in a world where we tell overworked employees to just focus on their breath instead of demanding better hours or people who lack friendship and need help to meet people to just love their solitude etc.
@eversunnyguy
@eversunnyguy 3 года назад
I doubt if monk understands English...RD was contradicting him but monks doesn't get it.
@user-mz4on5zc4g
@user-mz4on5zc4g 5 месяцев назад
Or the monk very much gets it, and will not be responding in kind. This isn't the West, where every contradiction has to be answered defensively!
@AbAb-th5qe
@AbAb-th5qe 4 месяца назад
When you go up a mountain you find what you brought up with you. Dawkins seems to concur here.
@freedom666-gf5tu
@freedom666-gf5tu 3 месяца назад
your are the best sir
@mikey180211
@mikey180211 3 месяца назад
Music happens within. Without you it's just noise.
@joshuamartinpryce1237
@joshuamartinpryce1237 3 месяца назад
Transformation is a spiritual discovery and reality is spiritual influence.
@sibanought
@sibanought 3 месяца назад
It seems that if you post a comment here mentioning some of the less admirable events in the history of buddhism, including citing a respected expert on buddhist history (as I did), your comment will be deleted (as mine was). How very dharmic! (NOT).
@larsjorgan7964
@larsjorgan7964 4 месяца назад
He flies all the way to Dharamsala to film himself talking to a buddhist monk then saying that he doesn`t feel like he wants to meditate. Like me grandad said: "There`s nowt as funny as folk"
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 4 месяца назад
Every office block should have a Multi-faith room on every floor. It should be close to the work areas to save time. In my religion, we pray every ten minutes.
@twitter.comelomhycy
@twitter.comelomhycy 3 месяца назад
Which religion?
@stevehughes240
@stevehughes240 4 месяца назад
I've got no argument with Buddhism, except for the Buddha part.
@Justme-vz4px
@Justme-vz4px 4 дня назад
Richard Dawkins on TIBETAN branch of Buddhism, it is more spiritual and related to rituals type of Buddhism
@JerseyCityGuy
@JerseyCityGuy 3 месяца назад
In this case Dawkins is just looking for a debate. The monk is speaking on a level deeper than Dawkins . Dawkins simply wants to refute religion. The monk is about relieving the inevitable suffering of living.
@skycolour1
@skycolour1 4 месяца назад
Dawkins is a good spokesman for Buddhism
@dougvinkle6795
@dougvinkle6795 4 месяца назад
And the sky is any colour I say it is.
@twitter.comelomhycy
@twitter.comelomhycy 3 месяца назад
Exactly
@Alwaysdoubt100
@Alwaysdoubt100 5 месяцев назад
Budhism is interesting
@ElLenadorLA
@ElLenadorLA 3 месяца назад
Working on inner peace and enjoying music aren’t mutually exclusive
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