@@batmanbeatingupfurbies4865 Yeah, except that part :D But in many different ways he was portraited as a good person in this show ;) And yeah, he’s hot
He would put him to death. Being kind and generous is one thing, being father another. And Edward IV actually always was ruthless when someone crossed his path
We cant denied the facts, in the serie the actors who played Richard and Elizabeth had a great chemistry those stares were fireworks even when they relationship was developed on a single chapter, from the moment Richard saw Elizabeth in Westminster Abbey he felt attraction for her, he said he would use every card to win the war but nevertheless he was behind that door looking at her intently meanwhile his eyes shines 0:27 at the end i think his character fell in love with her as he said to her in the starz version even though Richard was projected as a mysterious, dark prince that you would never guess what he was thinking in his head .
@@gentleheart7107 well that's your opinion, they starred in another project together as love interests. So clearly everyone else (a few of directors, casting crew, fans) thinks the opposite of you.
Richard III is the character I hated the most from war of roses. But the series "The white queen" made me fall in love with Richard, may be because of the actor who played Richard. I literally cried when they killed Richard 😭😭
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I just love how everyone ignores poor Anne Neville. Everyone loves this story, with its frisson of forbidden love, wicked (maybe) Richard, the dark prince, beautiful passionate Elizabeth...so yeah, lets forget his actual wife, only 28 years old, dying of cancer...and Richard coming in every day to let her know what a burden she was and 'why arent you dead yet"? OK, maybe he didnt do that. But still, everyone here acts like a legitimate wife is nothing if a hot young girl comes along...its shocking to see women behave so.
Fiona Beswick In the Anne was a bad woman. She wanted to kill the two princes. She's a monster and Richard deversed a kind and wonderful wife like Elizabeth
Anne the real historical figure maybe wasn't like that but in the serie, she was bitter, arrogant and envious, i never stand her just like her Isabel sister .... maybe they were like that because of their manipulative father the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.
This is the reason I spend my entire day to watch the white queen and I just finished it. I love them so much together and I dont care I ship it! Thanks for creating this masterpiece I actually feel like crying. I am so full of emotions.
Richard III loved Anne by all accounts. There was however some evidence that Elizabeth of York was in love with Richard III. In a now lost letter that was examined by a historian during the rule of James I, Elizabeth begged the Duke of Norfolk to help her marry Richard and was said to have called Richard III, "her only joy and the maker in the world" said that "she was his in heart and thought" and that she "feared that the Queen would never die". Either way, Richard III has been the most victimized king in British history and the last king of England with a full functioning set of testicles. Henry Tudor hid behind his men while Richard charged through his soldiers nearly reaching Henry before the traitor William Stanley ordered his men to attack Richard striking the fatal blow to him from behind.
Sigh... Elizabeth of york was definitely not in love with her uncle. That letter had blank parts that were filled in with words by someone else who found it a long time after it was written. I mean, who would even openly confess that their waiting for the queen to die? That's treason, punishable by death. And all Elizabeth said was that she looked forward to marriage. Though she never mentioned to whom. Not only is Richard her uncle, but he caused her family so much pain and suffering. Why on earth would she love him?
The fiction of the series is interesting but I did not like that he showed Ricardo with some interest in his niece because at the time, he publicly declared that this rumor was false and he always love his wife.
Elizabeth of York was given two books by her uncle, Richard III-Tristan and Iseult and Boethius Consolatio Philosophiae. In the first book, Elizabeth wrote her motto-“Without Changing” under Richard’s signature. In the second book, she curiously wrote Richard’s motto “Loyalte me Lie” and then signed her name. Here is why I find this funny. If you knew this history then you know Tristan is forced to kill Iseult’s maternal uncle in a power struggle the uncle started but in which they both see themselves as justified. The parallel here is clear. This is before Tristan meets Iseult - EoY comes from sanctuary. After meeting Iseult Tristan is treated for an illness by her - Richard comforted by EoY after EoM’s death. Tristan and Iseult fall in love over their shared love of music - Richard and EoY both liked music. Circumstances (her mother’s rage) force them apart but eventually the mother comes to terms with Tristan and recognizes he did what he had to Again, parallels are obvious. However, Tristan has to marry Iseult to someone else, they have no choice, but tell each other their love lasts. For bonus points, Iseult"s mother is claimed to be a 'sorceress' by some. Tristan marries someone else but he loves only Iseult and his marriage is chaste - Richard is married to Anne but their marriage seemed to flounder by that time and remember richard tried to arrange a marriage between him and johanna of Portugal after Anne's death, Joahana never married and was know because her professed chastity she was sanctified by church years later. Does anyone else see the irony? If they were actually given by richard, dude was another level of brilliance lol.
Interesting! Those two books have paradoxes, 'Boethius Consolatio Philosophiae' is about how riches, power and honor are useless, as they arrive, they leave, nobody should base their happiness on such fragile foundations. Happiness must come of something more solid, something that cant be taken away from you. Also Boethius always refers to philosophy as a woman, who comforts him at his worse.
There is a fiction book written that explores the relationship and the book Tristan and Isolde which Richard gave to Elizabeth this is called The Kings niece. By Liz Orwin. It’s such a tragedy. It is history but I would have rather see Richard and Elizabeth marry than to see Tudors take over. Even historians Thomas Penn have explored that option. It would have stopped Tudor invasion. But after opposition from the court they both lacked resolve for it.
these two actors are so gorgeous...I know it's incest, but I always keep forgetting he's her young hot uncle by 12 years age difference! I hope you guys enjoy the video! Please support The White Queen and The White Princess TV series!
It technically wasn't incest. Incest is when you have sex with some too closely related to you to marry them. Uncle/niece marriage was legal (well, legal with a papal dispensation) at the time so it wouldn't have been incest.
(Sorry for the late reply, I hate this notification thing RU-vids got. It's super hard for me to notice I got any.) Actually, watching TWQ I think Richard married Anne for her inheritance. Yeah he CARED for Anne. But whenever she asked him if he loved her, he always said yes, and then had this scary look in his eyes like he just lied to her. (the episode where George of Clarence dies. You should rematch their hugging scene one more time.) Maybe in real life Richard did love Anne, but the way the book is written and in the way the actors had so much tension and suspicion in their spouses makes you think the Philippa thought about it differently too. Her mom was a crazy selfish b*tch leaving her all like that during a war. But the Countess of Warwick was right about one thing, Richard could divorce her and keep all of her money. He rushed her into marriage knowing she would agree since she liked him, and NEVER GOT PAPAL DISPENSATION. Elizabeth was just a attraction fling. He was just attracted to Lizzie cause she was a younger and gorgeous. To Princess Lizzie it was love, or rather infatuation to her 12 year older good looking uncle.
SailorVenusYaten1001 It would certainly not be surprising or even unusual if Richard had married Anne for her inheritance. Most marriages were made with property and inheritance in mind, not love. And Anne became a Duchess and a member of the royal family, so she did pretty well out of it... The required papal dispensation was received a couple of months before they married She would have known that Richard would get her property. Hopefully she knew about the clause and if she didn't that would have been a bad mark against Richard. But there was never a divorce. I'm reading a biography by Alison Weir and Richard apparently was interested in marrying Lizzie. His councilors discouraged the marriage and there was no papal dispensation for such a close relationship, although I'm sure that wouldn't have stopped him. The other problem is her bastardization, which was the basis of Richard's title to the throne. Either he was being ruthlessly pragmatic or he knew at heart that Elizabeth was Edward's lawful child. A marriage would raise the awkward admission that the princes were not only legitimate but also dead. It would have been so interesting what would have happened if he had won Bosworth. I suppose Lizzie and he would have married foreign royalty.
Richard cried over anne in her funeral, she was his wife for over 10 years but when talked he sounded more worried about the rumor that he poisoned her and about Henry coming with his army against him and due to that rumor he could lost the north men support because of their love for Anne. He sounded more sorry for his throne than for his dead wife. In the last chapters he shame anne and he doesn't care about anne's feels and not matter if people say it was just for win the war but he doesn't repair to shame her if he would achieve his purpose therefore he acted as if he no longer loves her anymore.
When I watched the White Queen I felt like Richard was leading Anne and Elizabeth on, I didn’t believe he loved either of them but he recognised what he could materially and politically gain from the relationships. There’s an air of mystery about him which reflects how little we know about the real Richard’s character/motivation. I thought Richards character was played quite closely to the book although it’s been a while since I read it! I don’t know much about the evidence around Richard and Elizabeth, I know Elizabeth’s wrote a letter which was quite (to the modern eye at least) gushing and does seem like she had a crush on her Uncle! Also Richard had to publicly acknowledge he was not marrying her. I wonder if Elizabeth was drawn to her fathers brother through grief, could more have been made of it than was really happening? Who knows!!! Makes a great story 👍
I wish they had cast this actress to play Elizabeth of York in The White Princess. I love Jodie Comer, but I think this actress would have been better in the part.
I 100% wholeheartedly agree with you! she had the rebellious edge. I was disappointed when I heard they were recasting almost everyone, but Cecily (the grandmother)'s actress continued (?)
I cannot stop to watch thus video! It is simply perfect! I love the edit, the music, everything! I'm so in love with this couple, they had such chemestry in the show, in the book they were breathtaking and my heart breaks for how badly their love ended... Freat job anyway!
@@luciatarozikova8455 there are snippets of them in Philippa Gregory's books, more precisely: "The Kingmaker's daugther"--> Told by Richard's wife "The White Princess"--> Told by Elizabeth after Richard's death "The White Queen"--> Told by Elizabeth's mother "The Red Queen"--> Told by Henry's mother The best books of them are definitely the first two though
Abbey Roberts It wasn't an alternative scene it is part of the serie itself. It was seen in all broadcasts except in the BBC one and it is also on the DVD as other explicit scenes that they censured, this scene wasn't the only scene they cut they also cut other sex explicit scenes between Edward and Elizabeth Woodwille.
SailorVenusYaten you wanted an alternate end. All this about Richard III and Lizzy of York is just the author of the series jaded opinion of history. There is a very slim chance that anything ever happened between them. I mean look at the actual facts, he stole the crown from her brothers, he put them in the tower, he had the most to gain by killing her brothers and even if he wasn't the one who ordered their deaths he was just as guilty bc he was the one who put them in the tower and made them vulnerable to someone getting rid of them. Look no one knows for sure what happened in history back then on certain things but overall what we do know is that Richard III stole the crown and is most likely behind the disappearance of the princes and in the end he paid for it with his life.
Okay, so I get there are some of you who can't stand this relationship. Here's a fantastic idea, *don't watch it, and better yet, don't comment.* I've gotten back to a few of you on the matters of this incestuous relationship, and all I can say is that, IT IS A FICTIONAL HISTORICAL TV SHOW BASED ON A BOOK SERIES. It isn't real.*You all need to chill.* The author Phillipa Gregory writes most of her novels based on evidence and theories she's read about. Um, hello, She's a historian. I did my homework, and researched the internet and checked out *tons of biographies about Elizabeth of York and Richard III. * If you honestly have to question this, how about you do your own homework, because I am so tired of having to explain the facts and theories to all of you. ("*my only joy and maker*", Buck letter, two books given to Elizabeth by her uncle, King Richard III). To the rest of you, _thank you for your nice and thoughtful comments,_ I appreciate each and everyone of them. So thank you!
Don't stress yourself. There are those (like me) who love this ship. I really wonder how it's gonna be if King Richard wins the battle and marries Elizabeth (his niece). Also how many royal dynasties has had marriages within their own kin/s?? And even in the old testament Bible. A lot may be repulsed but if the parties agree and for the good of many, who are we to judge?? If they don't like this, then they should just find what they like and leave us with what we like.
Back in time weddings between members of a same family were not as shocking as they would have been in our time, especially not among rich and powerful families. So people who criticize are stupide and unable to make the difference between now and back then.
I can't say for sure, but I hope he didn't have anything to do with his nephews. The way the Tudors are evilly portrayed in all 3 series (TWQ, TWP, TSP) just shows they would have been capable of doing almost anything to get what they want too.
@@ion_cornelia5227 I think he killed them. He stole the crown of Edward V!!! Even if Edward IV married Eleanor Tablot, she died in 1469 so Edward V was legal!
@@ion_cornelia5227 maybe not, i can believe that she could love someone who killed her uncle and half-Brother and maybe Edward and Richard.... Terrible.
In know they’re niece and uncle, but some royals families back then did have a marriage like that, where the uncle would marry his niece; ie. the Habsburg. I like Richard and Elizabeth, but I also like Richard and Anne together.
So good to see the camp scene between Elizabeth and Richard! Thanks for this video! I fucking love them together❤ The show should've included this scene😭
The only way to watch it is by paying for the Starz subscription, if you have amazon prime, You can watch it on Amazon video. The BBC version (the most common ver.) didn't show the sex scene between the two. Only the Starz version. It's episode 10.
Please don't be mad at me, but I don't hate Richard as much as I did when I read the play Richard III. The series has shown me a different Richard from the first to the sixth episode. I still have four episodes to watch though.
Okay so i ship her with Henry and now you made me ship her and Richard ( because i never watched the show) this is incredible and so perfect the emotions between those two ughhh my demon tells me what if he was the one who killed her brothers and my angel tells me what if he truly loved her and he was innocent Anyways as a shipper i should only care about the feelings they had to each others if this love was all fantasy we wouldn't lose anything by supporting it but if it was real we would miss one of the perfect couples in the history . I really loved your edit you got me from one video 😭🧡
Love your comment! Thank you so much! I'm so happy I've brought you over to dark side lmao The actors who played Richard III and Elizabeth in the first show had amazing sexual chemistry. They filmed another movie two years ago together as lovers too.
I can't understand why some people are totally against Richard/Elizabeth but don't say anything about Anne/Richard as they're second cousins (Anne's father, Warwick, was a nephew of Richard's lll mother, Cecily Neville). I suppose some of you didn't know that. So it looks hypocritical when you prefer one "incestuous" relationship to the other while in fact both of them aren't.
They would be 1st Cousins, once removed, because Richard and her father were first cousins. So technically Anne and Richard's children would be her second cousins and his first cousins, twice removed.
It's not as bad as uncle and neice, but it's still bad and incest. But ppl choose to ignore that with Anne and Richard for some reason. Anne is also his Sister-in-law.
Of course, no king is completely faithful and does not have sex partners. Men always prefer younger, prettier women especially when they have power and status.
Ricardo y Elizabeth ♥♥♥ se convirtieron en mi pareja favorita en un solo capitulo y la mitad de otro, estos dos fueron impresionante, los actores tenian una quimica increible, muchos van por ana porque supuestamente esta mas apegado a la realidad historica pero para mi en cuanto a la serie se refiere, los personajes de ricardo y elizabeth se robaron el show como pareja, esa quimica intensa el no la tenia con ana, y ademas a el personaje de ana como le escribieron me parece que tampoco le hicieron justicia, fue bastante hipocrita y calculadora pero eso es otro tema.... These two become my favorite couple in the serie un just a chapter and a half of another, impressive both. 👏 👏 👏
While I don't believe anything happened between them in real life and I hate the infidelity in the show... I must admit that the ACTORS chemistry is my guilty pleasure❤😂
guys these two are playing main roles in a movie called dead in a week or your money back and its a romantic comedy drama and basically william(richard) wants to kill himself so he hires and serial killer to do it in one week but in the same week he meets ellie(elizabeth) and they fell in love so he decides that he wants to live his life with ellie and trys to stop the serial killer from killing him
Hi everyone! I don't remember the scene where there are together in the tent (or I don't know what is it) can someone tell me which episode it is? Is it the 10?
The only way to watch it is by paying for the Starz subscription, if you have amazon prime, You can watch it on Amazon video. The BBC version (the most common ver.) didn't show the sex scene between the two. Only the Starz version. It's episode 10.
I personally prefer Freya Mavor because I've seen her act in Skins. She has way better chemistry with Aneurin Barnard (Richard III). They played lovers in a movie made a few years ago. Also her look and vibe just fit the enchanted princess better. Jodie (Lizzie in WP) still did an amazing damn job in The White Princess. They recasted everyone besides the Duchess Cecily (her grandmother).
it's not some fake idea she made up. Phillipa got the idea from a 500 hundred year old historian account. "THE BUCK LETTER" Now there are two Bucks. A George Buck who lived during the time of King James I's reign, who documented many of the previous King stories. One of the other Bucks' discoveries was that historians have spent the last few decades arguing over, is the letter from Elizabeth of York to the Duke of Norfolk. Elizabeth wrote a personal letter to the Duke of Norfolk (a family trusted friend at the time). Pretty much the letter just says both her heart and her body view Richard as her only joy and maker. Of course many people argued if this person was worth believing. In 1979, (a descendant of) Buck had translated the letter and another historian had confirmed the translation was authentic enough to be proof and true... Unfortunately the original letter from Elizabeth of York is lost. Buck claims to have seen it in the private collection of the Earl of Arundel and reproduced the text. Buck’s original manuscript has survived, complete with notes and revisions from his great-nephew, also George Buck. But it was damaged by fire in the 18th century and parts of the text are missing or illegible. Elizabeth truly loved her uncle (platonically or romantically), but he didn't want the supporters of the Neville family to turn on him so he arranged a marriage for himself, and a match for Elizabeth. He was to marry Joanna of Portugal, and to keep an eye on his favorite niece, she was to marry a nephew/cousin of Joanna. That way even though he had forsaken her virtue, and ultimately ruined her reputation, he could still look after her and make sure she would be taken well care of. He promised her father he would always look after his princess. This letter clearly states Elizabeth's love for him, which is why Elizabeth told Norfolk not to send the letter because it would only bring trouble to Richard if it was intercepted by the wrong people. There is no real evidence of either Elizabeth or Richard’s actual feelings for each other. However it seems uncle and niece were on good terms while she was at court, good enough that he sent her a gift of two books. Both books had belonged to Richard when he was Duke of Gloucester. To give her two of his own books as gifts shows that he must have held her in some esteem. One of the books, Boethius’s Consolatio Philosophiae, bears Richard’s motto “Loyalte me lye”, likely written by Elizabeth and bearing her signature underneath. The other contains the inscription, not necessarily in Richard’s hand, “Iste liber constat Ricardo Duci Gloucestre”. On the same page Elizabeth wrote the motto she had chosen for herself, “sans removyr (without changing), Elyzabeth”. Phillipa didn't just make this relationship up, it was highly gossiped about and well-known at the time. Elizabeth and her uncle were extremely close during his last few years. Every biography of Richard mentions how Elizabeth was his favorite niece. He called her "Bess" and always put her needs in front of anyone else while she was in her toddler and early teen years. Richard gifted her a dog which had died a few months after her sister, Mary, had passed away. They were pretty close. But she didn't see him for 3 years, while her mother and her sisters were hiding in sanctuary. Also Richard was only 13 years older than her. So he was more of a brother or a cousin than an uncle.
If someone knows where I could find more information about this period (from the beginning of the War of the Roses to the end of it), I'd be very grateful. Because I am really curious about it and even though I reached the last semester of my English degree, we have never really talked about it in details during our courses. :(
I think if you bought the book called Richard the Third by Paul Murray Kendall. It was first written in 1955, but has never been out of print. It is (I think) the definative work on everything there is to know about Richard, his brothers, and the Wars of the Roses. The writer is sympathetic to Richard's situation, where most others have many times simply called him evil for supposedly being responsible for his nephews deaths. It is not that simple, and the author explains why. It's a long-winded book, but as I said, the author covers nearly everything ever known and written about the subject. I love this book. It is simply "The Bible" on Richard III.
Personally I like Richard and Anne better. I think she was the love of his life. I believe he did fall in love with Elizabeth but he died shortly after. And even when was starting to feel for her, it was part of his plot and he still loved Anne. But, publicly showing his affection for his niece broke her heart. I don’t think he meant to but, it happened. It’s such a tragic story.
Wondered how Edward feels about this in heaven… “Son of a bitch steals my son’s throne, declares my wife and our children bastards and a mistress not a Queen, and hits on my eldest daughter!”
Ok so I have watched all 10 episodes and I can’t seem to find the scene where Lizzie meets Richard on the battlefield and the love scene between them. I went through the whole episode and I can’t find it anywhere? What episode is it does anyone know?
hey i have the same issue too, it is actually in the starz version I believe. but I also heard it was a deleted scene. I really need the scene myself. but can't find it anywhere :(
@@SailorVenusYaten1001 omg idk if you will see my comment but if yes could you send me this scene with Google Drive as you said please ? It would be sooo kind ❤️ bc I can't stop to ship them 💔
SailorVenusYaten: I don't know their story well. IS Richard her blood relative or by marriage. Makes a difference concerning incest. Thanks, very well done video and writing.
he is her paternal uncle, he is her father's little brother. When she was born, he was 12/13 years old and she was his favorite niece growing up he used to call her "Bess/Beth", short for Elizabeth.
The only way to watch it is by paying for the Starz subscription, if you have amazon prime, You can watch it on Amazon video. The BBC version (the most common ver.) didn't show the sex scene between the two. Only the Starz version. It's episode 10.
Damn but it's hard to tell what they made of Richard in this series. It's like they portrayed him to be a more genuine man, or else quite an exceptional liar. "And thus I clothe my naked villainy with old odd ends stolen out of holy writ, and seem a saint, when most I play the devil." -- Richard III, William Shakespeare
if you watched both series, you would understand. It's the same people, just played by different actors in White Queen and the White Princess. Elizabeth was Richard's niece through his brother King Edward 4th, and Richard was Richard III. Elizabeth was to marry the acclaimed King who would win the Battle of Bosworth, which ended up being Henry Tudor (Henry 7th). In the White Queen series, Elizabeth fell in love with her uncle, and wanted him to win, so she could marry someone she trusted.
@Hermine Yami but it was incest... It was not "First cousin once remove" type relation..... Was Christianity allowed this type of marriages that time... (Sorry for my bad English ... English is not my first language)
