Rick Carlisle's big market conspiracy is detrimental to fan perception |  

Honestly, I don’t think Carlisle was wrong with what he said. The league gets more views when big market teams are winning.

“They gave up 130 points to a team that wants to score 90 “ 😭😂😭😭😂😭😭😂 hilarious

If the NBA wanted the Knicks to be good, they would have fixed the draft in Knicks favor. The Knicks have never moved up in the draft. By the way the western conference has 3 small market teams in Denver, Minnesota and OKC. The difference is that they are all way better and play defense. Rick should teach his team to play defense and hit their free throw shots. That is why they lost.

Everyone on ESPN hates what Carlisle said because they all know they favor the big markets😂😂😂😂

Nobody is stupid enough to believe in all the history if the NBA only 1 ref ever bet

Whats more detrimental....him saying it, or it being true?

Fans of small market teams already KNOW this is a thing, it’s not a secret or conspiracy. From a financial and ratings perspective it makes sense for big market teams to excel over small market teams.

We all know he's right

Carlisle is right

Coach said the quiet part out loud. The media and the league would rather have bigger market teams front and center.

Gils area which is hosted by pros who have played in the NBA would disagree.

ESPN & Fox Sports openly cheer for big market teams and for trades to favor Miami, NYC and LA. Come on …

Greeny is doing damage control ffs

There’s no CONSPIRACY. It’s a preference, a bias. It’s the benefit of the doubt.

Greeny is so wrong on this one

You know espn is actually the one favor big market teams as they talked about them over and over again no matter what😂

What's detrimental is the blatant favoritism for the Knicks. If you breathe on Brunson, it's a foul.

Carlisle was not wrong with what he said ..

1 rogue ref?! I’m sorry, but didn’t David Stern leak the FBI’s investigation because it implicated over 25 referees, the rest of which were able to keep their job, including Steve Javie who was taking over 100 calls a day from the rogue ref? I went to a game this year he reffed and made a bunch of weird calls! You say the free throw comparison in this series has been even, what about the disparity in calls for the Lakers in the series against Denver? They still beat them, but they had to beat the refs too, every game. Stop gaslighting your audience, Silver will do ANYTHING to get the ratings up after Caitlin Clark was blowing his product away while ABC would rather have racing than pay for NBA rights.

But Carlisle is not wrong

Greeny.... we don't live in a perfect world.

Can’t wait to see the NBA twist that OKC is a “big market” team once they start winning. Happened to Denver 😂

If Carlisle gets fined or reprimanded in any way then the Association is a joke.

That ref Donaghy said they were told as a whole officiating crew to call games a certain way!! Especially in the playoffs. It was the elimination game 6 in 2002 Lakers vs Kings that was atrocious. I believe the Lakers were gifted 24 free throws in the 4th quarter to get a game 7.

The league is fixed and you know they favor big markets including you guys on ESPN and most sports network. He didn't tell one lie. If you're arguing what the coach said is not true, why do they always want the STARS in Small markets leaving for LA and New York and cities like that? Everyone has been saying Anthony Edwards will leave Minnesota sooner than later. They say if with confidence as if they know something we don't know.

ESPN running cover!! Especially with the NBA television contract right around the corner. It wouldn't surprise me if espn sends some guys with pipes to rough Rick Carlisle up a bit to make him shut his mouth.

Man spoke the truth. Media is up in arms like he said Voldemorts name ... The main argument with all these talking heads is yeah they did in Game 1 but not Game 2 .... Well, it doesn't matter what game it happened, we all agree it happened lol ...

Carlisle was fined 35k, if he complains again fine him or dock his pay. Terrible idiotic coach to complain about stupid calls when they got more calls in the game at 17 vs 14 for Knicks. Show Carlisle the stats and box score so the amount of fouls are almost the same with Pacers getting 3 more calls! What the f he’s complaining about

Knicks are getting horribly one sided calls

The games definitely aren’t fixed but the league absolutely rooting for the Knicks Lakers Celtics to go on deep playoff runs. They won’t fix games but they’ll give them favorable schedules and give the top teams on national tv the best refs for home team etc.

Donaughy proved it's fixed. Reggie said this before game 2 on air 😅

If yall think the league likes to help the knicks cuz they are a big market team, yall havent watched basketball in like 30 years...

All the guys u named were superstars in college and high school

Lmao that’s exactly what he was saying. The nba does want these big market teams and winning

media is also stupid in pushing the whole foul on Hart thing. Is there not another angle for that foul, Hart said he got his hand on the ball while swiping at it. That angle of the foul looks like something else. Where's the angle from the front side.

Saying there’s a *conspiracy* is to make it too big. It’s about bias and preference, “the run of the green” and the benefit of the doubt.

Mike you just said it yourself, a ref was giving bad calls and betting on the games! Just like that was a foul on Kobe to Mike bibby! What is shaping the out come of a game to give a predictable outcome?? FIXING A GAME BRO!

QUESTIONING THINGS?! HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ANYTHING YOU PLEEBS YOU BELIEVE WHAT WE TELL YOU TO BELIEVE NOW TAKE THE JAB OR LOSE YOUR JOB! IF IT MAKES YOU SICK ITS YOUR FAULT FOR BEING CRAZY!!

Just because the outcome is not completely determined doesn’t mean they there isn’t an influence on the outcome.

carlisle is right nba is not fair

The worst officiated game since Lakers vs Kings in early 2000s. Horrible. You have to be blind not to see how bad the calls were .

The way ESPN has been saying it isn't fixed all day makes me think it's fixed.

I dont believe in you Greeny. There is so much biase with high market teams. Look at the sixers series !!!!! Its consistent !!! Your analysis sucks . the reason why the score is so high the pacers cant play any defense. Every defensive play, they get called so they are so afraid to play defense now!!

But was rick lying .. no, he only said the quiet thing out loud and now it’s scramble mode to shut this perception down. We forget it’s ENTERTAINMENT that’s all nothing more.

ESPN never addresses their relationship with MSG/CAA; so comparing other markets to this specific market is just not an apples to apples comparison. I think it’s pretty obvious there is favoritism for the Lakers and Knicks. The Lakers take more free throws than any other team year in/year out - that’s a fact, and can’t be argued. Knicks are in bed with ESPN and Disney, and are the largest market i.e., most money on the line, and yes - there is an officiating issue. And yes, it’s generally centralized around big markets, especially NYK and LAL

Between 3 wrong/missed calls in less than a min of play in game 1 and the refs not seeing what Murray threw on the court during the twolves nuggets game seems like Carlisle has a point or the refs must be legally blind.

He said there's risk to losing the NBA if they rig it even though there is no risk because they investigate themselves and they know us fans are too distracted with bread and circuses to get revenge

what's truly detrimental to fan perception is rick carlisle getting ejected and michael malone not. add to that jamal murray not getting suspended for throwing items on the floor. what rick said is nothing compared to how adam silver handled the nuggets' behavior.

Y’all like Drake replying to the hidden child accusation - not addressing the real issue. Which is the fact that the Knicks have been HEAVILY favored be the refs, & these refs have been straight TRASH both games 😒

im not watching a cavs vs pacers final. but i am watching a bos vs knicks final. just saying

Where was that conspiracy for the Knicks to win for the past three decades?

The technology exists to get the right call every time. The NBAs refusal to implement this technology is damning to any claims of "integrity" in the NBA.

Carlisle is not seeing the big picture very clearly. He's pissing off a lot of people and he's making himself a pariah - won't bode well for him moving forward On top of that, saying that there were 78 biased calls in the two games is a very damning accusation and very wrong. Most people who watched the two games saw only a handful of calls that the refs missed and one that was correctly reversed. And really only the bogus screen was eggregious. Nobody, except Carlisle, was watching incredibly biased refereeing. I feel sorry for Carlisle. He's really hurt himself making wild accusations that are not substantiated. And he's doing it with the spotlight clearly on him in the biggest media market in the world.

First of all, it's not at ALL laughable that the league might have deliberate ways of influencing officiating so that it is biased in favor of big market teams. And it doesn't have to be as obvious as Adam Silver getting on a conference call and telling all the refs, "Alright guys, you know what to do! Throw it for New York!" It could just be doing statistical analysis to know what biases refs have already and being sure to assign refs to certain games at certain times of the year accordingly. It could be masking influence behind other officiating guidance at specific times. And that's to say nothing of the general question of bias that refs absorb from hundreds of cues picked up from league officials, messages, etc. If the league really wants to clear up the question of bias, then hire an outside firm to do thorough statistical analysis to see what officiating biases DO exist.

Celtics, Cavs, Pacers, Knicks, Nuggets, Timberwolves, Thunder & Mavericks aren't huge markets, especially since one of the Celtics or Knicks will be eliminated. I know we like to talk about freethrows or calls or whatever, but that's just bad reffing I think. If anything the new CBA helps small market teams compete against the big spenders in the Dubs, Lakers, Clippers, Heat, Celtics, etc. So I think that the league can improve referees & replay, but the Pacers are losing fair & square.

Saying superstars getting calls is false. Some superstars getting calls is more accurate. Because Steph is one superstar that is mauled on and off the ball fouled at every turn and never get the calls

This is such a lazy misinterpretation of the criticism. Are the results of games predetermined? No, I don't think I've heard anyone say that. What is clear is there are a number of games where both teams aren't playing with the same rules which gives an advantage to certain teams. Don't think it happens every game but it does feel that it's happened more than it should this year.

The NBA has been like the WWE since the early 2000’s.

Why does this dude have his own show

As a Wolves fan it’s the most blatant obvious thing… The second you step into Madison Square Garden or Wells Fargo Center you just KNOW you aren’t getting the whistle tonight.

The whole deal with this is, it just talks about the NBA. What about gamblers? Basically anyone or any company can offer refs money or threaten them. The fact they bring up total fouls shows that they haven’t even delve into the issue. Refs can easily control and disrupt rhythms and do make up calls when it doesn’t matter. All I know is, high stakes moments or momentum swings are definitely being dictated by calls, and their argument against Carlisle’s point is so one sided and poorly thought out that it makes it more suspicious.

Everyone taught the NBA is rigged before he said that

What Carlisle said was BS. The league does not care that much about having large market teams go deeper into the playoffs as opposed to small market teams. They had some bad calls in game 1 but those are because the hometeam tends to get a few more calls.

Greeny, not only is the NBA fixed, but also all the other mainstream sports as well.

Good teams find a way to win. Bad teams point the finger at anyone but themselves. This is not only just in sports but in life. It’s easier to cope with failure when it’s not your fault but someone else’. Which is why those teams and these people will never win at anything.

Greeny is right and wrong here, stars get calls more players are elevated to star level in big markets, Donte Div is gettinh star calls that he wouldnt get in indy

The Bucks also got screwed in 2001 against the Sixers.

Sheesh. Call it fixed or whatever. Fact is officials always favor specific players/teams this shouldnt be a surprise to anyone who actually watch games. This has been the case since the beginning of time. Its just more prevolent now even tho we have better technology to assist officiating. Why do you think their defense suck all of a sudden? Its a chain reaction.

They only whine like this when a big market wins a game. The NBA bends over backwards to glaze these small market teams. Carlisle is being out coached and doesn’t want anyone to notice.

He mentioned the Lakers Vs Kings series back in the day but what about the Lakers Vs Trailblazers in 99 or 00 can't remember yr but that 4 quarter was some bs 🤔

I don't disagree that people may see Coach Carlisle's remarks and hear what they want to hear, that the NBA is rigged. But unlike players flashing dollar signs at refs, directly accusing them of being on the take, Coach Carlisle's comments hint at something that happens all the time in life and we are all susceptible to it. It is called implicit bias. Everyone knows that good-looking people have, on average, an easier time in life and can get away with more. There is no conspiracy to make that happen. It is human nature. There is a reason that QBs are, on average, better looking than most other players. As good-looking kids they are given more opportunity. All Coach Carlisle is doing is calling out that big market teams are better-looking. Stars get the calls. The glitz and glam does impact people, even though it is NOT a conscience thought. Being a referee in the NBA is the hardest job in the world and there are lots of things that affect their ability to call the game. There is NO CONSPIRACY to get the Knicks into the next round. The NBA did not tell anyone to do anything. Much like they will not tell them to make more calls for the PACERS. But you know what, when you make bad calls and everyone knows and then your boss is told about them publicly, you are probably going to lean the PACERS way, even if it is not a conscience effort. It is the job of the coach to influence the referees. It happens all the time during the game and at pressers. Coach just pushed it a little more but he never said the league was conspiring to beat them.

Here comes ESPN coming to carry the NBA's water... Y'all being in business with each other requires you to defend them

It’s called home cooking, has nothing to do with being a small market

Brunson is a great player but falls down on the ground like no other. If Hali fell like Brunson when he got shoved he would got the call. Knicks are better actors but they rebound better and hit freethrows. They play better defense and these were bigger issues that the refs.

Remember the nba is a program ;)

No its actually factual

These analysts always huff and puff when it comes to people saying what Carlisle he's right. There's concrete proof over the season and years. You say you want to grow the league more then don't show teams in a small market even when they're doing great. I live in Florida and have seen more games with the Lakers when they were losing and in 13-15 place than I had the hawks ,magic or pelicans when they had a better record. ESPN pushes the agenda for teams in big markets for making the playoffs, they made the case for some teams that's not big market being kicked out of the league at one point,they make the case for great players who don't play for big markets to sign with big markets like new York and LA. And now you're saying there's no collusion? Even if there's not there's a lot going on with the refs,analysts and the head officials to make it seems like there is.

Wait until Greeny listens to his own takes on the officiating!!

He's right, gambling has corrupted all sports, congress should make sports betting illegal again. All the major sports leagues push gambling in the pre game, the post game and even during the live games! They are definitely fixed, look at the number of free throws the Lakers got the last two season. You will find they got over twice as many as the next two teams combined! And the Clippers are in last place for free throws. Coincidence? That's pretty hard to believe.

130 points by the Knicks should tell you that the fix is in.

The NBA rigging the playoffs to get big market teams to the Finals is easily proven false! The Knicks, Nets, Lakers, Clippers, Bulls, n 76ers would be in the Finals yr in yr out. The Spurs don't win 5 championships alone kills the argument

It's not laughable when you see it in corrupt politicians and big corporation favoritism and even more money is riding there. It's laughable to think about it in the way Mike describes it, but it's very likely that there is favoritism for certain scenarios in NBA playoffs. The thing is that now Pacers will get some calls at home, but you won't hear Carlile complaining about when they are the beneficiary. You have to advocate better officiating in general, but then you make an enemy of everyone. It's tough to be mentally ready to play when you know the game is rigged and you see it unfold. These guys have no idea what that feels like, but dismiss it so quickly. Knicks have up 121 which is also not good defense, but they won and no one is taking about it. Pacers could have also won those game if the officiating was better. Don't cover up one problem (officiating) with another (Pacers play) These guys are so afraid to even play a devil's advocate on this course it might mean their job. Sorry state of sports reporting

Carlisle was not wrong,but his lousy coaching,bad rotations,and no adjustments mid game or at least game to game is why Pacers lost games 1 and 2.Before the series my prediction was Pacers in 6.I was going on that mainly because of NY lack of health and playing their players heavy mins against a team that runs just doesn't bode well.Anunoby got injured,Brunson is hampered to back up my case.Knicks if they lose game 4 which is likely,they will lose this series,because Pacers will at least win 1 game in NY whether it's game 5 or game 7.Pacers only team that hasn't lost at home in the playoffs and I just don't see it happening against a depleted Knicks team.

He's right. Happy my Wolves didnt havr to play the Lakers and those cheating refs in round one.

It exists and will always exist. It’s ultimately about tv ratings.

Rich people who benefit from NBA can't have NBA being seen in a bad light. You didn't need to send your dogs to tell us in this video Disney, we already know.

NY, LA studios raging 😂😂😂

yall think big market teams are up? OKC, T Wolves, Nuggets are all small market.

Skor north debunked this crap with stats. Check it out.

Why didn’t the league suspend Jamal Murray MR PODCASTER

Pascal was on the raptors he is use to not getting calls 🙄

New York ‘Broadway boys’ Knickss

It isn't a secret that NBA doesn't want Indiana in the Finals

It's not a conspiracy. Refs have been caught cheating years ago. The refs have been bad this playoffs.

Yup. Indiana plays NO defense. They can’t guard a newborn baby in an incubator….that’s how bad they are😂😂😂😂😂😂

At the same time. I like the Knicks.

Greeny is legit Mad Dogs biological son.

Sorry to break it to yall but ppl been saying this. Even former players. But yall didn't listen

I disagree. Case in point: the suspension of Draymond Green in game 5 of the 2016 Finals. Blantant manipulation by the league to A). Extend the series, and B). Reward Lebron for his impact on the league' revenue. Disgusting and reprehensible.

NO HES RIGHt