Ricky Gervais on comedy, taking offense, and educating the audience 

The Incredible Chowdhury your comment is offensive

@@experiment54 I'm offended that you found The Incredible Chowdhury's comment offensive.

@@Mawds69 it looks like we have an offensive comment stand off haha

@@experiment54 I'm offended by your assumption.

xenophanes another to the fight! Offence away my good man!

I bet they had a blast doing this

@RhondaH: You beat me to it! Love both of these guys!

That's exactly it.

People love being offended,just to moan and complain and feel superior!!

Haha "some comedians"

100% my philosophy too. I do not go out of my way to offend anyone, but if I have something to say, it's getting said. Just like with all this ID politics nonsense today, people won't say what they feel because they know the person to the side of them will disagree, how fooking weak arsed is that to silence yourself to not get a perpetually easily offended type triggered. If people can not debate or just laugh and talk about a topic where they will hear disagreeable views and opinions, then they need to move out of normal society and live in a cave alone.

just watched this clip and at 4.37 it sounded like a classic..glad to see i wasnt the first

Nea Emrys I think according to their perspective it's just jokes being a semantic exercise. In constructing a joke you're using words and ideas in a creative way to kind of poke and prod at your preconceived notions and worldview but the context of any joke is that humor is the ultimate goal and not to promote any amoral behaviors as one might perceive as being "offensive." There's nothing wrong with being offended, it's just their argument is that from a purely humorist standpoint, if you are offended, you've fundamentally mistaken the intention of any particular joke. What I find interesting is he said he wants people to say "I've found that offensive," as opposed to "that is offensive." Implying that to a certain degree he doesn't wish to diminish or dismiss any person's actual feelings. The notion he's arguing against is that he, the comedian, should be barred from certain topics or areas and infringe on his freedom of speech (which Gervais is huge on). So essentially he's saying you have every right to be offended, just don't mistake that feeling for his being offensive. Acknowledging your feelings is alright as long as you don't project them onto the comic. That is a dangerous exercise because you're misrepresenting your anger or emotions. If he makes a joke about rape and you feel offended, you're really just offended by the idea of rape and not the joke itself. An example he used in his last special, Humanity, "A woman walks into a police station and tells the officers, 'Help, please, I've been graped!' The officers say, 'You mean raped?' And she says, 'No, there was a bunch of them.'" You see here it is an exercise in semantics because you are not actually laughing about rape, although that is a component of the joke, you're laughing about the word play and perhaps even finding humor in the aspect that although the joke is not about rape, it's rape adjacent, and that feels almost wrong and messed up but ultimately you understand it's an exercise in word play. So while rape is the subject of the joke, the object of its humor is the word play and that sort of aura of wrongness laughing around rape. The same way you can talk about rape in any context as the subject, but it does not necessarily mean your objective is to condone or support rape itself, you're just talking around it. It's a tricky line to totter on but comedians often do this to sensitive topics so that we get a more well rounded perspective on things like when Chappell talks about Cosby for example. Love this topic.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FIND A STRANGER TO THE ALPS LARRY

"demanding equality by not being part of humour is actually demanding privilege" take care, get the quote rigt

I think Ricky has been saying it longer, among other fellows, such as Hitchens. Also, the only time I was 'offended' by Ricky is when he said he hated The Lord of the Rings and it's the worst thing ever. I think it's the greatest thing ever which makes it hard to grasp his viewpoint, naturally.

@@TheClassicWorld Have to agree on that one mate, I love Lord of the rings!

^ this

uhhh, read the message at the end of the video. You can only get the full interview on patreon, it is presumably behind a paywall.

If the law is upheld and the second option lands you a fine or jail time for stalking (which is indeed a felony in the states) than id say go with that. Alternatively you could take your offense and shove it up your ass.

I know you commented this months ago but if you watch Ricky's Netflix special called "Humanity" he goes into more detail on that subject 😊

@@BOSSXist cheers

The infamous 'You m**g' comment when talking to a disabled woman. She later explained why she found it offensive, m**g is short for mongoloid which is an offensive term for down syndrome.

It's because it's a discussion, not an interview brother.

That law is so fxxking stupid. The problem is that human perception is so varied & conditioned by infinite possibilities that literally any and all possible combinations of words in an utterance could offend someone. I could potentially be triggered by your comment here (obviously I'm not but you know what I mean). The only response to these ridiculous laws is that we all remain silent.

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Appreciated

Kris Adams insert “that’s what she said” joke here

@@experiment54 Well played....very well played.....

It seems to be a little more incidental he has a problem with some people and some happen to be trans but he is a comedian and a legend

You're not oppressed nor have you ever been

He was brought up in a Christian family in a Christian area of a Christian country. If he needs to provide a religious example, Christianity is naturally the first religion for him to talk about. Anyway, he talks about Allah, among all of the other gods, when saying that they're all unproven. I don't think he'd shy away from making jokes about Allah, but he isn't gonna just make a joke about Islam just for the sake of it. Islam is unlikely to be a very big part in his life, when most of his comedy revolves around things that are commonplace in his life.

@@PoissonVisageStudios you can make jokes about everything in the world but not the prophet,,,that is just how it is

@@johankarlsson5732 I mean it depends on the situation. They shouldn't be out of bounds at all and I think most people don't consider them to be, Islam just doesn't particularly come up naturally in conversation. I think most of the fear isn't because they're afraid of Muslims harming them, it's purely because Muslims on the whole take their believes so seriously that they really can't take a joke about their religion, so joking about it just causes too much backlash to bother with.

@@PoissonVisageStudios In the video they say that we could joke about anything,, but we cant about Allah

Fionn MacNamara I’m a fan of Gordon Ramsay but it really is getting tiresome watching him cook the same proteins over and over

You have the choice to stop listening to him.

He’s saying that some people will find that joke offensive, and other won’t. So the joke is no inherently offensive. Instead, people should say “I find that joke offensive” which is 100% valid.

@@Fudgepuddlez and I’m saying it’s ironic that a comedian who stands up for free speech will also then go and try and force people to say things in the way they think is best. Ur all doing the same shit to each other lmao

@@gummybe4rrs35 i understood what you were trying to say. The point he’s making is that jokes are not inherently offensive, which is a fact it isn’t subjective. So by saying “this joke is offensive” people are arguing against a fact. If people said “I find this joke offensive” that is 100% valid, and if he argued against that I would disagree with him. I’m with you on the fact that both sides often are doing the same things to each other though.

Nah I disagree, people don’t have to craft sentences in the formula which you have deemed acceptable in order to practice free speech. And definitely didn’t say both sides lol I personally think the majority of white male comedians just want to protect their ability to be an asshole to ppl (which in the end is stupid because there’s no law against being a comedian so what are you even fighting for lol)

Just out curiosity, do you think that a joke is objectively funny or objectively not funny in the same way that you think it's objectively offensive? If two people, who share a certain circumstance, hear the same joke and one finds it offensive and the other doesn't, who is right? Now subsitute 'offensive' for 'funny' and what's your answer.

I'm offended by your comments

I think Ricky is taking the opportunity in interviews to try and correct the overcorrection that has put comedians in the hot seat and worried about what jokes they tell. Comedians have had the job to comment on modern culture and putting it in a way that is relatable for the masses. What he is doing here is no different except for the lack of a punchline.

We found the one the needs a safe place people!!

@@koadydolson6575 you can't even get the terminology correct you cretin. It's "safe space". Get it right scaly if you're tryna impress.

Nah, it's just you.

If you're always on the lookout for some minor offense, you will always find one.

Only an open mind can be liberating. Control of speech leads downwards for the human race. Make a choice for the sake of intellectual progress.

The only difference I see is a 60 year old too tired to care as opposed to the guy who cleaned up his act for the Golden Globes, oh wait, he didn't clean it up at all. 4 times. With possibly $millions at stake if he gets blackballed he went after everyone and every thing wrong with Celebrity-ism. 4 Times. Yeah, I guess I see no difference at all...

What? He’s clearly saying them because he’s not like those people...

So you just completely missed the point then yeah? Jesus you failed so many times.

Not sure you actually watched the video properly with how off the mark you are 😂. “there’s nothing you can’t joke about, it depends on the joke and sometimes people are offended when they mistake the subject of the joke for the target.” You can joke about racism and the holocaust without being racist, in the same way you can discuss both of those things without being racist. It all depends on the joke.

"Maybe to some a joke about child rape is funny, but the bigger question is why on earth would you want to make that joke," Because making fun of kiddie fiddling priests is funny, for instance. I think you missed him saying "It depends what the joke is", he never talked about being wrong or right as an absolute.

what is black culture? what does it consist of?

@@podjun80 Google it.