He is so right. I am Anglican and I didn’t leave the church but the church left me. I still love the liturgy and the 39 Articles but they are not adhered to anymore so I had to leave. Like Rico I now attend a Reformed Church.
Dr. Martin Lloyd Jones wrote one of the best books I ever read called, “Authority” . It helped me see through Rome, the papacy and the Charismatic movement. He believed in the baptism of the Holy Spirit but in a scriptural way not the circus we call the church today. Authority helped me make sense of society. We need a Martin Lloyd Jones today. He would not have compromised the Gospel.
@@SheepDog1974He is said to have described himself as Calvinistic Methodist (alternatively referred to as Presbyterian) although he became a Congregational minister at Westminster Chapel. When it became clear that the merging of Presbyterian and Congregational churches to create the United Reformed Church (URC) included moving away from the reformation position of Sola Scriptural, he led the Chapel to remain independent from both the URC and the Congregational Federation of independent Congregational churches. Instead it joined the FIEC, in keeping with his view of church government being a fellowship of local churches not bound by the fiats of a denominational hierarchy.
Loved & listened much to the preaching of MLJ and will continue to do so. MLJ was one of the most visionary and of course, apostolic of all preachers in recent times. He was much maligned, even in my little Scottish evangelical church. & after 30+ years of zero discipline, lending to a more liberal stance! I too had to move on to a Presbyterian Church. Order & discipline are very much the teaching of Christ & Paul in particular. MLJ was ahead of his time, much of his teaching describe exactly what has transpired a 100 years on. Correct Doctrine, now an almost forbidden word, certainly a despised word among many ‘evangelicals’ is an essential teaching method of biblical teaching. Maintaining good doctrine will prevent the many abuses of scripture now rampant in the church and what a mess she is in. However, the church has alway been going through refinement as are its members and God is still on the throne. Stay faithful, remain strong in the Lord each & all. Fear not, for time is short.
The operative word here is "Correct Doctrine" ; Doctrine divides, indeed. MLJ follows the correct Doctrine of Christ and the apostiles as Paul so clearly states.
But not about everything. Romans 7, for example. However, the CofE is unreformable, both as an institution and in terms of the local church, so it's definitely time to leave. Those who don't will, in time, be condemning their churches to ever greater compromise and eventual apostasy.
@@alanhowe7659 I think his view of Romans 7 developed over time as he moved from Calvinistic Methodism to Congregationalism, see his sermon 'Sanctification in Romans 6 to 8' in his 'Great Biblical Doctrines' series
@@SecundumVerbumDei What position did he eventually settle on and how damaging was the fact that he got this wrong at any stage of his ministry, dismissing the received view?
@@alanhowe7659 By my understanding, Dr MLJ previously taught that it was someone under conviction but not yet a regenerate Christian, in the sermon I noted above he stated that it's a regenerate believer who is in the Spirit wrestling with their flesh (which I think is the pretty standard exposition of Romans 7 when you're not trying to dismiss the passage due to the Methodist presuppositions of Christian Perfectionism). There's obviously no way I could know how widespread his earlier understanding of the text was or it's impact but it should be noted that asserting that Paul is not talking about the born-again believer (e.g. Written from the perspective of an unregenerate man or Adam) is the standard Methodist explanation that goes at least as far back as Jacobus Arminius. I'm not defending Dr MLJ's previous view or asserting that it was not harmful, what I am stating is that his theology in this area developed and I think it's appropriate to recognise that. I've heard it asserted from various people that this was Dr MLJ's view as if this was something which had not changed and I trust they are simply unaware that it did. I know that I have said things which have been incorrect and unhelpful and I also know my theology has developed over time too, so I would hope that if someone were to engage with something I said or wrote it would be with the understanding that people learn and grow. Thus, I think that grace should be extended to theologians in history. We need to remember that when we engage with a piece of theological work, it's a snapshot in the wider life and theology of a person.
I saw the Dr teach, once. Breathtaking. Was led out of the CofE. Now my church is losing people because as our pastor explained...people do not want to be disciplined.
@@yyy-875 Certainly as much. We have 3 leaders in my church. They are accountable to each other. 1 leaders was barred from leading the meeting because he had displayed a wrong attitude to his wife. He'd to ensure the matter was thoroughly sorted before the Lord and with his wife before he could lead again.
Separation in the way we live but not separation as in not spending time with them. Paul is clear about this and that is how he lived out his faithfulness to God.
“But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler - not even to eat with such a one.” 1 Cor.5:11. Seems pretty clear. The C of E is guilty of sexual immorality and unrepentant.
@stephengorman1025, As long as we are not being moulded by them in an ungodly way and being wasteful in our time, when we could be growing in grace and biblical loving our neighbours.
Rico is clearly a believer, my only thought is what took him so long??? The CoE apostatized long ago with bishops and vicars writing books denying back Christian truths without any church discipline or removal from office. As Rico just said MKJ spoke about this in the 1960s. So what took Rico SO long???
1 Samuel 15:23 - For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king. 1 Samuel 15:24 - And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice. The Anglican and Methodists have been infiltrated and subverted. Their leaders are following instead of leading the people. Pray for Christians that remain in those denominations that God would use them to purge the evil. Excellent, short video. Thank you.
We may rightly lament the apostacy that crept,,now rushes ,in to the Ghurch but the Scriptures clearly foretell a "falling away " in the last days, so we shouldn't be that surprised
But we shouldn't do nothing. This may not yet be the last of the last days - there are currently thousands being swept into the Kingdom elsewhere in our world where persecution is rife and self-sacrifice the norm.
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits." "And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock."
Absolutely correct in everything he says. But not just in the CofE. I was in a position of leader 50 years ago when I clearly was I’ll equipped for the roll.
MLJ was right about the CofE problem, but there was no ready-made destination for CofE men who might have left. What was (and is still) needed is a Reformed Anglican Church separate from the state and faithful to Scripture and the 39 Articles. There needs, in other words, to be a mass walk-out of CofE ministers into such a body, along the lines of ACNA in North America, but without the fault-line of women's ordination. This requires vision and leadership. Where is our modern-day Cranmer?
@@nigelatkinson5820 Exactly. It takes self-sacrificial leadership to lead a Reformation. Trouble is, men are all-too fond of their livings and vicarages in an apostate institution.
There are quite a few reformed Anglican bodies out there, as our church discovered when we left the CofE last October, but they are all relatively small. The issue with leaving the CofE for many churches we have spoken to is far more practical - buildings, pensions, payrolls, insurance, safeguarding oversight and the like are not small things you can sort out and set up in an instant. (But they are very much worth sorting out for the sake of obedience to Christ!)
@@DougNeville17 Might buildings, pensions, payrolls, insurance, safeguarding, etc. actually be excuses not to be obedient? And then there's the idolatry of the institution.
God bless you for your videio.May the inspiration of God Who is Almighty to deliver us all, bless and be a light to your path in these times.Bless the Lord for Dr MLJ.
About 37% of primary schools in the UK are state-funded 'faith schools'. If the Govt took responsibility for running these schools I assume it would have to pay rent for use of the buildings. Where would this money come from?
CoE schools are much worse than state schools because they pretend to be ‘Christian’ but are clearly not. They are wolves in sheep skin. For example, unlike secular state schools, CoE schools teach and promote non-evidence based theory as truth, critical race theory contrary to directions issued by the government. As a Christian I see it as an absurdity the legal requirement that the CoE topmost leadership, the bishops must be chosen by (non-Christian) prime ministers. Besides Jesus had specifically said that His kingdom is not of this world. Thus the CoE should be separate from the state.
According to the words of Jesus in John 17, a physical separatist policy cannot be right. Joseph and Daniel certainly did not serve their Lord in a "godly" society. Yet our LORD used them. As believers, where we are and where we serve, is not so much up to us, but rather up to Him.
Take hold of your Bible, learn how to interpret Scripture by conducting profound exegesis and researches, study Church and Jewish histories, use the parabolic and allegorical interpretations, commentaries and homilies of the Early Church Fathers alongside all your Bible devotionals and indepth studies, and use other relevant and useful material to increase your knowledge of God. NEVER STOP SEEKING DIVINE TRUTHS. This is the only solution for the sheep due to all the Church problems and severe apostasy. STOP ATTENDING APOSTATE CHURCHES AND THEIR WEIRD CONFERENCES.
Actually the denominations are not arguing with each other, at least in the UK. They often get together for special events. People have different ways of expressing their worship, and they are free to choose how they will do so. For example, church services in the CofE are, by and large, more traditional, using set texts for worship and prayer. On the other hand, Pentecostal services tend to be more expressive and impromptu, with opportunity for members of the congregation to participate by praying publicly, sharing a scripture and/or a word of encouragement.
I am bewildered by Calvinists who complain, rebuke and attempt to correct what God has predestined, preordained and decreed to happen to everything in the world and has decided who will be saved and who won't, from the foundation of the world! Listen up reformers, you can't have it both ways. Either God has set everything according to His Will and nothing will change it, or He has given men freewill to do what they want with the expectation that they would answer for their decisions at the Judgement Seat. You cannot have it both ways. So, either accept what is or rethink your silly doctrines that do not hold up to scripture!!
But God CAN have it both ways. The fact that you as a human can't understand how God's sovreignty and man's free will can co-exist does not mean that it's a silly doctrine. Disagree but why not do so with charity?
Nope. There are more than just two ways. Everything isn't a dichotomy. That's why you don't understand. Because thats how you think. There are more than only two answers to almost every issue.
If you look at Westminster Chapel today and compare it to London's evangelical Anglican churches it is hard to argue that MLJ was right. His vision remains unrealized in any meaningful form. And Parkside Church also has American evangelicals hurriedly distancing themselves from Mr Begg's recent comments - and therefore from him. If Rico thinks this 'it's wrong so I leave' mentality is a way forward he is deluded.
Independency can be just as damaging as denominationalism when good men are replaced by those who should never have been called. That's what happened at Westminster Chapel. Just consider who was not invited to MLJ's funeral...
