@@francescop1 no, at worst you can get more population than you have space But that just prevents you from making more units until you rebuild the houses, it will never kill villagers.
"Military beats villagers." How were we supposed to know that, with you leaving it out of your counters tutorial? Keeping all your secrets to yourself, I see!
Also same, haven't even played my necessary 10 games to be properly ranked. Won my first one ever, felt pretty good, got destroyed in my second one lol
I like the reaction to the early multiple goat kills: T90: OH MY GOD NOOOOOOOOO! Don't kill all the goats at once! What a waste! Spirit: Not a huge deal but it does waste a little bit of food. So, player on red is the Aztecs ...
so i was a huge noob until quite recently and I think as a noob you often commit to something that succeeded once. Red took out 99% of blue economy with eagles, so he kept making them. To a noob taking out enemy TC is basically a win, I think that's why he held on to them so much
some people seem to think Eagles are unstoppable very good units, when in reality I find them very mediocre. Also I never understand why people don't build more trash mid-early game. Red and blue sometimes had 1500+ food and wood stockpiled, they were waiting for gold. Why not pump out some Skirms and Pikes as a meatshield to protect your better army? This is why I like the new Persian tech as if you are pushed off your gold, as long as you have wood coming in you can pump out Xbows and use that valuable gold for knights
@@Halvtooth At the time of writing, red is a bit above 800 Elo (according to aoe2.net), so this game is actually right around T90's territory. It's possible that he might have been closer to 1k when this game was played.
@@Halvtooth yeah i know that feeling. It is a weird Spot to be in because you get kicked in noob Games but all other games start at 1200 ELO and they do Not want to have you either 😂
@@OzMuGu he means the Supremacy tech of the Spanish. Villagers get +40hp, +6 attack, and +2/+2 armour. Incas with their blacksmith techs will only get +4 attack and +3/+4 armour, but without the extra hit points - also at a much greater cost but having some of the bonuses earlier on. I now want to see a Spanish vs Incas game, no military, villagers only.
@@du1987de incas will win early game and finish it. supremecy is imp tech and game wont reach there. check what noboru does to other people. there are videos of noboru in t90official's channel.
@@Heavysweating But he didn't get Chemistry or Balistics, not sure about Bracer. With 30-40 fully upgraded Atlatl skirms, he would have easily taken out those low numbers of Samurai.
That was completely absurd but tons of great learning opportunities. I really liked seeing things pointed out without judgement or harshness, ultimately I know that I'd probably make a lot of the same decisions as these players. Especially camping my base with an army when there's a 5 minute window to just win the game... Classic.
@Ulf Knudsen The only difference is that T90 is a V.High Elo player while sucks at Maths and Calculations while SOTL is amazing at Calculations and Maths but is a mid Elo player...
Finally low ELO legends! xD That straggler trees start though.. -I can hear T90 complaining in the background- They are playing great! Better than me :P
26:48 - BIG FIGHT!! 26:49 - nevermind 26:51 - treb DOWN! 26:55 - new treb ready this game... they are low elo players but the important thing is that it is balanced match! so much happening and I laughed and had fun so much during watching! wp both players and thanks sotl for video :D
It's frustrating to see that red could have won EASILY if he had taken the time to destroy the Temple, denying all gold (and military) for his opponent :/ At some point there is nobody in Blue's base and Red have like 6 or 8 EWarrior around. 30 seconds of attack would have won him the game ez.
Also, Red *really* screwed it with the unit counters. The mangonels were good, but otherwise they were sending units that were easily taken out by Blue's Samurais and later 2h swordmen, making them unable to put all their extra economy into a viable army. That, and being scared into not attacking earlier
yes I tend to see this a lot, even in pro games. One team has a large army, is positioned right outside the enemy base, and the enemy town is completely undefended. Yet the guy on top never pushes an attack? instead they just waste time plinking at outlying buildings. I guess it's the fog of war and fear of losing your army stopping them from sending in their army and winning? I've watched so many games where pros were just too timid, they never pushed an attack, and they gave their opponent the time they needed to recover. Or I've seen many games where a player will pull off a good attack, take out an enemies defensive army, leaving the enemy town ripe for conquest. Yet the attacking player never follows this up? You'd think he would be building units during the attack to push forward? I also wonder why some times, people who have 1500+ spare food/wood, and plenty of spare pop (say in Mid Castle age) - why don't they pump out some trash as a meatshield? Pump out some skirms for enemy crossbows, and some light cav to dissuade Mangonel attacks. I always see pros going for a massively gold heavy army but leaving themselves massively vulnerable to mangonels/archers when 10 trash units would do the job just fine.
Guys please dont forget, these are not pros. The “a pro would do x“ is not really a fair argument. I think they played very well and did their best. It is very easy to be stressed out in such games. Being nervous and doing everything in the same time, trying not to lose. All I want to say is, that they can be proud of that game. Both players learnt a lot, Im sure. It was a very close and action packed game. High quality AOE if you ask me.
And going along with the funny tone of all the match, it is going to play a key role in blue's final assault to red's eco: 2h swordsmen were born from that barracks.
20:15- this is so frustrating to watch. How could you puncture the treeline and not buildup a force to take advantage of it. And then they walk villagers right through it instead of sending their military there. I don't get it. Red deserved to lose that castle shortly after. It honestly feels like they threw the game away on purpose, not using a flank like that.
@@Bloodlyshiva Sorry for the late response, SMOrc is a twitch emote. SM stands fpr Space Marine, its a warhammer 40k reference. Orcs are very agressive there
1:53 "Both players here are actually housed at the same time..." VIPER CONFIRMED!!! Viper is playing against himself, that's why each side only has ~1k Elo
I'd like to imagine when the treeline chopped down the villagers are just friends and greeting eachother until the military comes in and ruins all the fun
Hey Spirit of the Law, if you want to switch player's point of view while spectating the game, just hold Shift and click on a building or a unit of the desired player instead of going through the menu ;)
It's been 2 years since this came out. Just came back and watched this. It honestly makes me want to play this game again. Because if I can't be good, at least I can be funny.
I just never understand why aztec players never do something other than eew. Like you have great Champions and insane skirms with atlatl (red was missing that) Edit: Both played insanely well with manogonels tho
I love seeing you get into casting (is it still called casting if it's a recorded game?). I learn so much from your videos so I'm excited to learn more from you commenting on game play. If I may, I'd like to give some constructive feedback: 1. In a low/mid ELO game like this, tie what we're seeing back to basic concepts. Many of us watch your channel to learn so comment on how these players could improve (you did do this sometimes, to be fair). 2. You have a very calming, even voice. While you're certainly not monotone, you would benefit from changing your voice's pitch, intonation, speed, and volume at times to help maintain viewer attention. There are many different ways to do this so just find speaking techniques that fit your style. Thank you for posting this video. I look forward to watching more.
I think Spirit of the Law's unique voice makes him stand out and I think he should maintain it even for casting. Great work SOTL! Im always looking forward to see your videos. Please keep up the good work!
@@cbflazaro t90 is way too cringe and immature for the most part. I wish he'd focus more on gameplay and not himself, being self-deprecating for chat's amusement
I loved this game when it first came out. I discovered it again last week and now there are channels to discuss strategy. I love your channel and your ideas about build orders. Try to improve my hot keying as I was too mouse oriented before. So much fun to be playing this again. What a great game that has lasted the test of time.
As a Japanese player I laughed so hard. If only he had just invested into champions instead of Samurai and towers instead of castles... this would've ended so much faster ='D
@@TheArcher143 playing persians to build mass farms all for those elephants... massive, unstoppable Elephant army coming the enemies way... wait, what is that sound? Wololo ??
Making samurai precludes the Aztec player making Jags, though. I think the Aztec player should've invested more in champions, they're created a lot faster and trade more favorably with japanese swordsmen and samurai. Just making arbs would've worked as well. The japanese player might then feel forced into skirms or cavalry. Aztec skirms are better, and Japanese cavalry isn't super great against archers.
@@urabraskthedeplorable725 Yeah, Aztecs should win hard obviously. Never make Eagles against a civ with great champions. Also, there's very little gold on Hideout so never go for an eagle comp. He should've gone for onagers + arbalests/skirmishers. Nothing Japanese can do.
can't wait for your another low elo series. I like your casting better because you did not bully the player, a bit chuckle doesn't matter, but you give calm commentary and better explanation on how to be better player.
Ridiculous to say the least! Loved this. Spirit, you are the reason I have gotten into Age of Empires 2 so much. I love this game and your content. It is always coming and very interesting. DO more videos like this!
haven't played myself since early 2009 outside of against the AI, back then in LAN 3v3 or 4v4 during Boarding School, and these crazy matches that took forever and went back and forth were always the most enjoyable ones. so much so, after we finished one of the 3h+ games, we tended to rewatch the replay immediatedely to see all the stuff going xD
One of the most ridiculous games I've ever seen, and I must say after a whole day of playing super bad, losing, tilting etc. seeing the level of these guys did really well to my morale, so thanks :)
This is why on Arena and hideout I usually build a defensive line of buildings to force them to at least cut through a house or something after they breach the walls, and give my army somewhere safe to reinforce itself with any last minute unit production, or use archers or seige to throw things at the enemy from safety.
What an interesting game. They both were on the ropes multiple times yet managed to come back. And Blue having 4 villagers or so was just ridiculous. I think Blue's decision to pick up lot of relics might have been a war winning strategy since it gave him gold for all the Samurai's and Trebuchet's. Red used all his gold for the Eagles who are very gold intensive which probably used up his gold reserves meaning he couldn't create arches to deal with the Samurais. So he basically had to create either Skirmishers or Pikemen to counter the Samurais and both are bad choices. If Aztecs had cavalry he could've created Light Cavalry but since they don't... Red also should've destroyed Red's barracks in the south east which was a constant source of enemy units raiding his production.
This is the match that never ends, it just goes on and on my friend. Some people, tried to finish it but then just ran away, and they'll continue passively forever just because this is the match that never ends...
Red could have won. Should have attacked at 14:40 when had all his military standing around. And 19:30 when he chopped through the woodline he should have dropped a castle right there.
*I like ur commentary better than T90, he screams too much for my liking... you explain things more calmly in a more data-focused manner.* Not to cause a war between both or anything... but yeah... i like you more as comentary
I am also not playing this game that long. I played the hd version with my friends, but just against the AI. So i had much to learn and I completly messed up in ranked. I am also
