aside for drops like Maverick where it goes beyond vertical causing your inertia to pull you out or one where you are kinda suspended over the edge like Gatekeeper the big drops won't matter because gravity causes all things to fall at a rate of 9.8m/s/s in freefall. So drops up to vertical that you approach at a low enough speed to not get ejector air time will cause you to just fall with the train still in your seat.
I would actually like to see a video where a water dummy rides either Steel Vengeance or Magnum XL 200 with the lap bar unlocked. Like, I’d pay a few $ to see that
I've seen water dummies filled with water riding Steal Vengeance when it was testing once and with the first drop and every airtime hill and inversion I could see Water flying everywhere lol.
@coasterseveryday3620 yes most coasters do this to let the water out of the dummies. It's a lot easier to move a mostly empty water dummy than a full one lol. But it's always fun to watch the water fly
So funny hearing the Space Mountain music for a Cedar Point ride! Also for the longest time I didn't know coaster trains had wheels that went under the track to hold them on, I thought it was just the G-forces holding them on, so I thought if they went upside down there had to be enough positive G's to keep them from falling off the track. You should do videos like this for other parks as well.
I have been on a coaster without any restraints. It’s not at cedar point. It’s the oldest Coaster in the world. Build in 1902. It’s called Leap the Dips.
Blue streak used to have a buzz bar restraint system. Meaning the restraints would not close all the way to your lap. So I think it is entirely possible blue streak could be done with no restrains, no problems. As it almost did before they redid the trains
Adding a few recently(ish) defunct Cedar Point coasters: Disaster Transport: Alive Wicked Twister: DEAD - like ultra dead Wildcat: Had airtime, but it was so abrupt that I think you might be okay - in a similar spirit to Blue Streak or Gemini
@@R.I.P_The_Tide_Pod Pretty sure 'Dragster would also result in death. I think the launch and assent would be fine as both push you INTO the seat - and a good percentage of people MIGHT be able to hold themselves in on a rollback - but I don't think there's anyway to crest over and descend down that vertical 270 degree spiral without being thrown out. But I also forgot Mean Streak! Which in it's trimmed form would've been "Alive but hurt" but possibly hurt slightly less than the ride actually did since you'd have 1 less thing to bang into without the lapbar. But it had NO airtime and sufficient grab handles. Trimless it would've also been death - probably from laterals, but it did also have some floater airtime inside the structure.
@@RadioMuse1 that makes no sense in respect to inertia. You are not going to fall faster than a train that is also in free fall. On a vertical drop both you and the train will accelerate at a rate of 9.8m/s/s because you are both matter near the earth and neither you nor the train will have significantly more drag than the other.
@@jeremyhowdyshell2259 Which part doesn't make sense? If Dragster crests the tophat with sufficient speed the riders will get negative Gs and be thrown out at 400+ feet. If it goes too slowly, the rider will be pulled down faster than the train as it tips into the 90 degree drop without something to hold them back into the seat. Then - even assuming some riders managed to hold themselves in - the 270 degree spiral adds laterals which would send even a "floating" rider flying out from the side of the train.
I remember riding the Corkscrew for the first time, and that was my first real experience with airtime. That hill before the loop slammed me into my belts and shoulder harness. At the time, I also had some change in my pocket that fell out and coins were bumping the bottom of my legs during the corkscrews, lol.
Can say with evidence that Blue Streak falls square in the alive category. My first roller coaster, 1980s, still used buzz bars and a shared seatbelt. Seat belt didn’t get buckled (they didn’t used to be so diligent on checking) and buzz bar didn’t really hold in a like 8-9 year old. It was scary but survived the full circuit .
One thing TT2 has going for it is there are very nicely placed handholds under the sides of the seats. I discovered it on my 3rd ride of TT2 where I was able to hold myself to the seat without touching the restraint. Throughout the entire ride including the rollback/zero G moments. It takes a death grip but it really wasn’t that hard. So if you hold yourself to the seat and are mildly in shape I think TT2 is decently survivable with a failed/non existent restraint.
O yah with a lot of roller coasters if you just hold on to the seat really good you can probably make it. A few years ago I did the same thing with Silver bullet at Knots Berry Farm. I held really tight to the seat and watched to see if my shoulders and other parts of myself would touch the restraint and it didn't because of the death grip I had lol. just with top thrill 2 you would have to make sure to be prepared for that backwards launch because with no restraint you would get ejected forward. But with a good grip, you can probably do it.
Plus Mine Ride did have someone fall out of the train in the 80s, but the kid was only 5 and very small, ride was 48 inches or accompanied by an adult at the time. It was in the drop over the water I think.
Is this taking account the fact you can manually hold on? Sure, you wouldn’t survive steel vengeance with it but some of these could be moved up a tier.
I'd say TT2 comes down to how hard the train's acceleration will be during the run through the 2nd launch. The train may leave you behind there. The spike wouldn't likely be a problem because gravity works the same on your body as the train so you will be decelerating and accelerating again at the same rate as the train because on the vertical spike.
Big ups for making a unique coaster video! I've lost interest in most coaster stuff because it's all the same. Also the thought of gatekeeper just dumping people out on the first drop is funny, as long as we don't think of it being people.
Hey, my best friend supervisor from SFMM thought about what rides would feel like without restraints. He thought that one day, people should be offered to ride Full Throttle, X2, Twisted Colossus, or get ready for this, Tatsu without restraints! People would need to sign a waiver. Revolution you could do without a restraint because gravity takes over on the loop. Ninja and Gold Rusher, you should be okay, but Ninja's low to the ground turn and Gold Rusher's unbanked turn and final up, you should be careful. Also, can you do this series, but riding coasters with a buzz bar? Everyone's favorite restraint because as Airtime Thrills says, "The restraint that is no restraint."
I went on Railblazer at California's Great America last year, and that is a ride that I can definitely say you would get thrown out of if it weren't for the restraints.
If you want to actually ride a roller coaster with no restraint ride Leap the Dips at Lakemont Park. It only goes 10mph but there's no restraint besides a handlebar to grab onto, and you actually get some airtime. It's also the worlds oldest roller coaster.
First hill of steel vengeance is doable but later you would fall out but millennium force given you understand the danger but have a way to help hold yourself bc look at how holding something in front of u. And the turn can be done so I think you be good. Everyone knows millennium no force could be a little changed up its a very smooth ride.
i disagree on corkscrew. old arrow coasters like this one are designed without negativ G. i work at a park with a simular coaster and my coworker tested it with a plushy!
One factor I don't think that was accounted for is if you do make it to the end, is the force of the final brake run enough to throw you out and is there a platform in that final brake run to land on, or do you land on the track and then get hit by the train?
Bro it’s not possible to ride top thrill two with a restraint?!? Get ready for a ride only matched by one man’s experience on Superman the ride at New England! (You know who I mean)
And I say that it is bc I used to work at Camden Park and would ride the big Dipper standing up and air time in the back on the first hill is good for a medium size coaster
Cedar Point should offer people to ride Steel Vengeance without restraints! You would have to hold on for dear life to avoid death and would have to sign a waiver before going to the event.
I think Blue Streak would be alive but hurt (and possibly dead). Depending on weight in the train, and if at night (temperature), BS can have quite a bit of ejector time in the middle of the ride. Certainly, the front car would be quite precarious. Ludicrous, but fun idea for a video, BTW
But we didnt talk about whether any of these rides still have a grab bar to hold onto. No restraint and no grab bar, versus no restraint and HAVING a grab bar, would make the difference on some of them (depending on your strength, of course).
I don't know, you may be able to handle a zero-g-roll if you held on for dear life. No forces acting on you at the top and you're just floating there in the seat. But it's debatable.
Nah, you'll be ok on Raptor as long as you grip on the sides of the seat. I tried this myself on raptor, and the speed alone the entire ride was able to keep me from even touching the restraints.
Haha I’ve done that same thing as well lol. Something I forgot to mention in this video is i was just letting the laws of physics do the job. Later videos in the series I talk about how I’m not calculating holding on to the seat and stuff. But yah if you are griping your hands to the seat I believe it can be done. I’ve done it with raptor, silver bullet and a few others.
We used to ride the Beast at King's Island in the 80's and it had buzz bars, no seatbelts. Why do you think it says don't stand up at the top of the hill? Because we were dumb kids and did.
@coasterseveryday3620 The overall rankings might not change, but if you are "floating" through a zero g roll, if you can hold yourself in orientation to the train then you could theoretically get through that inversion and get killed later on.... lol
Honestly, if you had just a really good grip you could survive all the rides lol But yeah you're right about the zero-G roll because I've tried this with other zero-G roles on inverts, holding on to the seat really tight and seeing the I Would Touch the over-the-shoulder Restraint. Surprisingly It was true, you can hold yourself threw it But I didn't want to complicate the video so I just left it at that lol. @@matthewmoore8270
@@coasterseverydayYou probably still wouldn't survive Steel Vengeance, since even if you can hold on enough to not fly out of your seat, you will still probably hit the supports, since they're very close to the track.
