I just bought the zero turn this weekend, It works great. The battery chargers can charge the batteries from almost dead to full charge in about 90 minutes, and they are a bit loud (cooling fans). I mowed my one acre yard, and I still had 88% battery life remaining. Also, the prices on each mower, were $500 less than what was listed on this video.
@@MrFreebirdIII i think battery price mowers are way to high i can buy pretty much same gas mower for $2000 or less. maybe in 5 years or so battery mowers will go down in price, I'm sure not spending $4000 to $5000 on a mower
@@funtyes1970 , they’ve already come down considerably. When I bought mine at Tractor Supply it was $5,500, I was in a few days ago, the same one is like $3,600. I was like of course it is. 😆
I got this mower specifically to be able to drive it through a 36 inch door ru-vid.comUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend or gate It is a little tight with the grass deflector installed but has more clearance with the deflector replaced by the recycler/mulcher. This model appears to be popular and a little harder to find for that reason. I can't judge the dependability as I have only mowed the yard twice but everything else on the mower is very nice and working fine so far. I added options for the run hour timer, arm backrests, recycler/mulcher, towing bracket, deck lift assist and cover.
You're going to really love using the ZT batteries in your older 60v tools then, my old tools used the 60v 2AH batteries, super lightweight but also low runtime. The 60v 8AH batteries that come with the ZT are a bit heavier but you'll never run out of charge for your hand tools again :)
Excited for Greenworks' first non-commercial riding mowers. Hoping that they are saving the 80v mowers as their second generation, allowing these 60v models to work out the kinks. We're deep in the 24v and 80v ecosystems and don't want yet another series of batteries in the mix.
They have an 82v version on the commercial page, i really hate that they split from 20/40/60/80 into these other ones... its just an annoying money grub tbh 24/82 are basically just reasons to make the batteries incompatible and thats it.
Everyone should really just take notes from dewalts flexvolt system, you can use your 60v batteries in 20v tools and some tools can take 2 batteries, so you can have wireless table saws as powerful as wired ones, using the same batteries you use on your standard cordless drill.
any time soon i don't see a battery Electric commercial mower only way that would happen you would need about 5 to 7 hours run time on one charge , pretty much that battery have to last you all day on a 8 to 10 hour working day
We.have the lawn tractor and a.cub cadet low ride with steering wheel They do much better than the zero turns on hills going sideways and the reason the zero turn doesn't mow as much as the low ride tractor is that the steering arms use energy to work while the steering wheel is powered by the rider
Wish these were available at Lowes, Home Depot, Menards, Fleet Farm, Costco, or any store that is conveniently located. Just bought a Ryobi electric but would have preferred this I think.
I read Costco is supposed to get a 80 volt version but I haven’t seen it yet. I bought the 82 volt version at my local Greenworks commercial dealer. 60 volt version through Tractor supply and online
Costco is advertising on their website, starting today, the ZT model, $5K delivered. We have 2 Costco's but neither of them carry a lot of stuff that you'd find in their warehouses in bigger cities, so I'm thinking online will be my only option. However, there is also a local Tractor Supply so I'll look there first.
@@nathandingman6846I had the z6. The electronics failed after two years. If any of the PCB boards fail that's it for the whole mower. If you can even get a replacement board, the entire mower must be reprogrammed. Ego has only one person for the entire US that can completely reprogram these mowers and he's backlogged several months. Fortunately I bought the mower at Lowe's. They could get ahold of service at Ego as I couldn't. Ego agreed that the z6 electronics are basically not repairable and the mower is good for scrap. The mower was still under warranty so I was given my money back. Ego grudgingly returned my money thank God Lowe's got them to return my money as Ego kept dragging their feet if they even answered my calls at all. As per Lowe's policy I had to accept the refund in store credit which Is fine with me as they were able to get a warranty refund which I wasn't able to. I will gladly buy from Lowe's again.
Thinking about the ZT. How durable is the bed? I live out in the country and have rough terrain, holes, roots, etc. I need something tough. Looking at Bad Boy gas, but the whole idea of no belts and pulleys to tear up is VERY appealing, I spend as much time working on our junk Craftsmen mower as I do using it.
Same question here; same terrain. I always wish the mower height could be higher than any mower I've found yet. There are lots of bumps to get over, plus the dry conditions here mean I want to cut higher so the soil is more shaded -- but 5 acres does not justify buying a real tractor - not that I could afford one anyway.
I would say it's very durable. My neighbor has the bad boy gas zt, and it is faster, larger and obviously looks stronger but it has problems with the belt and pulley system. Not as bad as a cub cadet (those are delicate) but still see him working on it about once a month for something. I've only had to plug a tire after running over a hedge apple thorn, added tire slime after that. No other maintenance since except for just blowing grass off with a blower. So yeah I would say the greenworks zt is very tough, but the tires are not very grippy on wet grass since they're just turf tires. Good luck 👍. p.s. I use mine on 11 acres in rural Kentucky, about 6 of which I only used to bushhog with the tractor. I use it everywhere except for the heavily wooded area where the 4wheeler trails are.
I am on six with a large hill facing east and the rest of the property slopes to the east. It is rough terrain because my land is mostly horse pasture. Would the Greenworks tractor hold up better than the zero turn and perform better on sloping land?
Possibly one just has to stand the mower up at 90º, and secure it in that position. Then one has full access to the blades. The rear end seems shaped to support the mower in a vertical position. FIRSTLY, chock the rear wheels and lay out an old blanket (or tarp) if over concrete. REMOVE batteries. LIFT the mower's front end, and have another person close-by for safety. SECURE the mower to wall, or overhead structure (maybe hefty overhanging tree branch) - for safety.
I have the crossover, love it. Front end is heavy duty but I put a "hitch step" on mine as an added bumper. Got one wide enough to protect the tires. I like the height range on the deck, handy on long grass on rocky ground. Hitch is also handy for moving around small trailers.
For those of us who've never owned a mower, can you please shoot a video of how to change the Crossover T's blades? Do you need a jack what kind? What tools do you need Impact Driver or Impact Wrench? How would you know when it's tight enough so as not to cause a safety issue? Also how do you fill the oil in the gearbox? What size screw driver or wrench do you need? The instructions are not clear at all. Thank you!
The bolts tighten the opposite of the way the blades turn. This causes them to tighten as you mow, so there really aren't safety issues with tightening the bolts. Air wrench/impact wrench is definitely the best option to get the blade bolts off as you will need a way to keep the blade from spinning when you put a wrench on the bolt otherwise.
I’m thinking of buying a CrossoverT Tractor Riding Mower. Can someone advise me on the battery life? I see that the replacement battery cost is $350/battery. How many seasons of “average” use can I get out of them mowing a flat acre?
I am looking at theses for when we move, we want a larger House with about 10 Acres when we Retire. We have a large family🤣🤣 Only a few years to wait. Whole new world this would be for my Husband.
I would LIKE to see how you get in & out of these mowers, as someone with some disability issues this is important factor for me. Your cutsie poof didn't help me understand that at all. Thanks for the review. I'd also like to know the decibels & see how well the lights work at night. What are the dimensions of the storage in the back? Would it hold a muck bucket? What is the warranty? Where are they sold?
Batteries have a 4 year warranty. I have sone that are right at 4 years old and haven’t lost any range. For what I saved in gas I can throw the batteries away every 4 years and still save money.
@@LiveWildandFree37 I'm right at an acre in SC so we mow 30 times per year. JUNE thru AUG we mow every 5 days as with watering our grass grows fast. Assume you owned both mowers so we're just measuring usage cost. Blade sharpening is the same so no comparison needed. ICE MOWER - GAS @ $3.29 x 30 = $98.70 annualized (some of the cheapest gas in the USA is SC) - Oil change at end of season = $3 - Spark plug = $2 - ANNUALIZED TOTAL = $103.70 - x 5 years = $518.50 E- MOWER - Charge batteries 60v x 4amps = 240 watts divided 1,000kwh = .24kwh. - My energy cost $.13 per kWh so my battery cost .24 times $.13 or ~$.0312 per charge - ANNUALIZED TOTAL = $.0312 times 30 mows = $.94 - x 5 years = $4.68 So over 5 Years you can spend $518.50 on gas, oil, plug or $4.68 on electricity. This also does not take into account your trips to the gas station to buy gas to fill your gas can, or to the store to buy the oil and plug. Or to properly dispose of the used oil. Safe to say you'll have another ~$100 in expense there in 5 years not accounting for your time. 5 YEAR OWNERSHIP - GAS ~$600 - E-Mower $4.68, that's right just under 5 bucks annualized.
@@TheCvp33 ---- I wrote a long reply to your other post and fuuuucking google / you tube deleted it. Damn faaascists' companies. So now i'll save it in word and repaste incase the asssssholes delete it again. Ok the ZT warranty is 4 years so all calculations will be off of that.. I have a 1.2 acre lot. I spend $75-80 a year mowing. But for easy math i'll up it to $100. I spend about $200 in oil change, service, sharpen blades, whatever. ( once every other year. ). So total $200 a year. Throw in $50 for the unexpected engine issues. $250 x 4 years. $1000 in total cost. Looking at Amazon those ZT replacement batteries cost $240 on sale. We're gonna assume that sale price lasts for years. But it may not. For easy math lets round that up to $250. $250 x 6 batteries = $1500. So after 4 years, you're down $500. You break even at 6 years.. assuming the batteries last that long. Then we have the initial cost. A gas ZT is about $3200. Where as a E ZT is $5000. So youre in the hole $1800 right out the door. Thus to break even, your original 4 year warranteed batteries would have to last 6 years + 7 ( $250 / $1800 = 7 ) = 13 years. But remember the Gas i rounded from 80 to $100. So thats like another year or 2. So say 15 years. Not happening. There is just no way your E ZT makes sense financially wise. They say battery prices are coming down. Well we will see. But $250 a battery.. ON SALE, for like $100 off ) is still insanely high. The E ZT Mower will have to drop a grand and replacement batteries drop to around $100 for that E ZT to become competitive with the gas mower.
@@TheCvp33 - my 3rd reply, if commie youtube deletes this one then i'll post under another acct . Ok the ZT warranty is 4 years so all calculations will be off of that.. I spend about $100 a year in gas. $200 in oil change, service, sharpen blades, whatever. ( once every other year. ). So total $200 a year. Throw in $50 for the unexpected engine issues. $250 x 4 years. $1000 in total cost. Looking at Amazon those ZT replacement batteries cost $240 on sale. We're gonna assume that sale price lasts for years. But it may not. For easy math lets round that up to $250. $250 x 6 batteries = $1500. So after 4 years, you're down $500. You break even at 6 years.. assuming the batteries last that long. Then we have the initial cost. A gas ZT is about $3200. Where as a E ZT is $5000. So youre in the hole $1800 right out the door. Thus to break even, your original batteries would have to last 6 years + 7 ( $250 / $1800 = 7 ) = 13 years. Obviously that wont happen. So there is just no way your E ZT makes sense financially wise. They say battery prices are coming down. Well we will see. But $250 a battery.. ON SALE, for like $100 off ) is still insanely high. The E ZT will have to drop another grand and replacement batteries drop to around $100 for that E ZT to become competitive with the gas mower.
@@2Truth4Liberty These aren’t designed for mowing big hills so it’s all about application. I’m guessing you would likely need something more commercial than residential?
"Technically" the Wheeled Unit is a Lawn Mower, not Lawn Tractor. The difference being no Rear 3-Point Hitch or Rear Sleeve Hitch for using Implements.
Thank you! I actually thought the front engine made it a lawn tractor, and the rear engine meant it was a riding mower. At least that's how I learned it years ago.
I love this Crossover T mower. However, I'm finding it difficult to understand how to change out the gearbox oil at the 50 hour mark? Where do you pour the oil in and where do you drain it? Is there only one area? Also what other maintenance steps have to be taken? The manual is NOT clear for someone who's NEVER owned a riding mower and is not handy. Is there a way you can perhaps make a video of all the steps required to properly maintain the CrossOver T? You'd think instead of some unhelpful static drawing on their manual of what to do, they'd post a tutorial video of step by step procedure to care and maintain this mower? But, no, that would make too much sense. Can you please help and make a tutorial video of all the things that need to be done to maintain this mower, please? Greenworks is NOT clear in their instructions or clearly indicate what part #'s for their blades or filters or anything...
What gearbox oil? Are you joshing us? Very few electric-run machines require a Gearbox, as speed control is via a Speed Controller which varies the voltage running to the motor. Are you referring to the transaxle/differential? The lowest point on a differential is the best location for a drain-plug, while the upper structure is suitable for a filler-bolt/cap. Sometimes there may be a sight-hole for recommended lubricant level. I should expect THAT most battery-powered ride-on mowers have all direct-drive electric motors, so all one needs to do is- Clean & Sharpen the cutting blades. Clean out the blade deck underside. - Lube the wheel spindles, and the steering assembly, occasionally.
Yes, apparently the way it's written in the manual made it sound like it was for gears which electric platforms don't have. What they meant was an oil inlet, but I'm still not 100% sure what that was it took a lot of oil for sure, tough to get in as it was really small opening. @@johnklumpp7901
To answer my own question, there is: www.greenworkstools.com/products/42-residential-riding-mower-bagging-kit I'm wondering why Coscto's price is $500 more than the price straight from greenworks on the 80V 42" Riding Lawn Tractor. Twice as many batteries come with it, is all I see. $5K from Costco vs $4500 from Greenworks (free shipping from both).
The rear tires are not really grippy, I would say the ZT is definitely made for suburban lawns (I live in rural Kentucky). So yeah, I've had trouble going up some of my steeper hills, and don't even try if the grass is wet. 6 acres of my back pasture is all going uphill, but I've been able to get it done just going side to side instead of up and down the hill, with lots of battery left for the ride home :)
@@kdegraa Yes the rear tires can easily be replaced, I just haven't yet because I didn't want to spend the money on it lol. Going side to side instead of up and down the hill "flattens" it if you know what I mean. And yeah I still love this electric mower, just make sure you get a blower with it to help clean it off (don't want to spray this mower with a hose!!).
@@tonyg894 yeah I do have an Ego blower I use clean my tractor and mower deck. Blowing clean is better than washing clean. My hope is to get an electric lawn mower to mow the grass around trees in my orchard. The tractor is good at mowing the grass up and down the rows of trees but is too big to mow around the trees.
Six batteries nice,,, six chances of failure! Lets eee it mow 1,5 acres in a half hour after your three days late on mowing the lawn! Hope the headlights work good!
Likely you are the type who prefers to store all your eggs in one basket? You prefer it that one trip, or stumble, breaks ALL your eggs in one go? Y'know, it is legal to perform your mowing in the morning . . . after sunrise?
I've been able to cut for an hour and still have over 40% battery left. I think it really just depends on factors like rider weight and steep hills. I would never go back to gas :)
If you already have Ego tools then yes go for the Z 6. If not, then take a look at both the Z6 and the Crossover ZT. I didn’t have a tractor supply locally but we have a Greenworks Commercial which has the 82 volt version. 500$ less and comes with the mulching plug. Both have strength and weaknesses but not many weaknesses with the ZT. The only one that stands out is that you must remove the batteries to charge and you don’t want all 3 chargers on the same circuit because all together they can draw over 20 amps initially. On the other hand, if a charger dies you have 2 backups. If the Z6 charger dies and you don’t already have Ego products, you’re watching the grass grow.
@@tonyg894 I modified my eight year old 17HP Sanli (gas) mower to mount a John Deere CargO Mount Single Bucket Holder- LPJD100, out the back. . . but I do agree that the rear deck on Greenwork's Crossover T appears quite useful. I have Ego 19" push mower, and Trimmer already but the Ego T is not in Australia as yet.
It comes with 6 batteries with 3 dual port fast chargers, so as long as you put your batteries back in the chargers when you're done you won't even really see it as an issue. There is a brand called "Ego" sold at home Depot I think, and it supports on-board charging (like charging your Tesla from a regular outlet) but I personally wouldn't recommend leaving expensive lithium batteries outside in hot weather anyways for obvious reasons..
Herbert James "Burt" Munro (1899 - 1978), rider of the World's Fastest Indian motorcycle, didn’t like to take time out for grass cutting so sometimes just burnt off his over-long grass. He never was troubled by the cost of a lawn mower, and spent all his spare cash on Indian motorcycle parts, etc.
i think Electric mowers price are way to high , why would i buy a battery mower for $4000 to $5000 when i can buy pretty much same gas mower half the price . i think Electric battery mower price need to go way down
eJunk and no way compares to the cutting power of a similar gas burner. Buy a John Deere for the same price (zero turn) and have the full JD network of dealers in case of warranty, service with availability of parts.
Things not discussed: Thin metal deck to reduce weight. Ok for small lawns, won't stand up to hits and over time, will likely rust away. Reverse blade button: an "answer" searching searching for the "question". In other words, not needed and stupid. If you engage the blades, they should be on at every speed, in every direction. Cruise control: Safety hazard. Anyone that has ran a zero turn with a ROPs has accidentally hit a tree branch on the ROPS and don't even get me started on any kind of incline. You just release the foot throttle or pull back the drive bars and back out. He didn't mention if cruise is disengaged with a change in throttle. High and Low Speed button? Why? You have a foot throttle. Again, stupid. Both of these mowers are tiny. Maybe a 1/2 acre lawn at most. Notice they say you'll get the acreage stated under pretty much "perfect" conditions. Last, most zero turns run the blades at around 3600 rpm. The max of 3000 rpm on these units will definitely show....more akin to push mower speeds so you'll have to ensure you don't let your grass get too high to avoid blade bog. I sometimes have to mow pastures with my zero turn, and I guarantee these units wouldn't be able to cut that stuff...but then again, that doesn't really apply to the likely buyer for these type units.
I haven't had blade bog lol on my pasture yet and that's cutting on low blade speed. But it's just a pasture so I'm not looking for a golf course look lol. And about the rusting deck you're worried about, you can buy a zt lawnmower cover for it. Tractor supply gave me one for free (cub cadet brand but hey it's free!). Just take care of your tools and they'll take care of you 👍
@@tonyg894 Does the cover prevent rust from underneath? I agree one should take care of their tools, my comment was merely that the deck is much thinner metal than a decent zero turn has, and as such, will be more susceptible to damage or wear, such as rust. This is fact, not a guestimate. Glad to hear it is able to handle your pasture. With that lower blade speed, I will say I'm surprised, but I'm curious as to how fast you are able to mow and how deep the pasture growth is. Mine can handle something a few feet tall at low speed, and around 8" at full speed. I'm actually a fan of battery operated tools and have a full suite of 80V lawn care tools that I have nothing but praise for. However, I've been following the development of Z turn battery powered, and my comments were on point in regards to "would I replace mine". No...not yet. Considering cost, capability, and durability, it doesn't meet my needs yet, but I did state that it would be good for someone without the greater demands some, like me, will have. Gotta admit, some of those "features" are dangerous imho.
