Good video... I used to think that foot strangulation in tight shoes meant "fast" as well. Some Bont shoes and the Lake CX201 shoe are the only ones I've found with a natural shaped toe box. Unfortunately, Bont's "bathtub" carbon sole does not work for my feet as my feet can swell when they are warm and the stiff sole edges bite into my feet.
I've purchased a pair of Bont shoes...most painful shoes I've ever worn. I've tried so many times to heat mold, but I can't get the painful spot to go away. Bont basically just said I'm out of luck, and wants me to purchase another pair of Bont shoes! No thanks. I'll live with my other shoes that hurt, but hurt less.
Hi, I did it the other way around: I did wear to large shoes for years... (not only on the bike...) That's not good as well. The toe box of the Bont shoes look nice. They seem to have space for the big toe. I think I'll give them a try.
It's unfortunate how common that advice is handed out! I would assume that a large majority of cyclist have dealt with wearing shoes too tight or currently are and still haven't been educated to having a proper fitting shoe.
It is imperative to know your actual measured size in cm these days, compare the size charts of Bont and Fizik. On paper a 41.5 fizik is a 43 Bont. That is a huge variation. If a shoe is too long you may not be able to bring the cleat back if you are a heel dropper or forward if you are toe pointer, correct sizing is pretty darn important.
I think it's more common than we think! So glad it you found help and direction with the video! Very satisfying to know that it has helped, even if just one person!
I was wearing a size 44 mainly due to a broad foot at the toe area. Which in reality puts your cleats in the wrong position relative to your foot. I have now got a super fit with a Lake wide fit shoe. Cleats better positioned and really comfortable.
I have spent allot of money and the shoes have always been crushing my feet! Sick and tired of pain and numbness because I can’t get a US size 11EE or W for extra wide. Therefore I’ve gone back to old 70s toe-clip with a retainer leather strap.
quick question, is it just me or do they ship these in ugly boxes? You'd think a $400 pair of shoes would come in a decent durable box. Mine was shipped with basically the shoe box with a plastic bag wrap.
I have been using sidi shoes for many years but find them to be narrow. I like the idea of the boat shoes with a wider toe box but don't no what size to get. I ride a sidi 43.5 so what size boat do i choose? Thanks
Informative Vid! I have new Shimano RC7 and now I’m getting blisters on my small toes from so much riding. This is definitely not normal. Would bont shoes be wider than RC7? Also by how much ?
Thanks, Mitch. I have been wearing shoes that are too big due to my unusual foot shape. I have a long foot, but it is low volume. This makes finding a proper fit for any shoe, not just cycling, difficult. I just purchased a pair of Bont Vapor S shoes in a 48 and they seem to be a great fit. I will be heat molding them today to dial it in even further. One question, will the heat molding also adjust the fit for over-pronation?
I bought the Bont Vaypor S about a year ago, and have done the heat moulding process several times. For me it didn’t work. They are the most painful shoes I’ve ever owned. When I tighten the boa over the metatarsal area there’s a stiff piece of plastic from the dial that feels like it’s digging into the side of my foot. Any suggestions you might have on how to remedy this issue would be appreciated.
Hi. Trying to get information on the difference between Bont wide fit and Asian fit. Even info directly from Bont is a little confusing. From what I can discern, compared to wide fit, Asian fit is somewhat wider at the toe and narrower to normal at the heel with less volume. Can you describe the difference?
Sorry, I'm just seeing this. So the Asian fit is just as you said, wider in the toe box and more of a standard fit in the heel. Where as the normal wide is going to be a bit wider throughout the length of the shoe. Honestly, something I should probably experiment with as It may be a good fit for me as well.
Yeah it’s not rock climbing where if the shoe doesn’t hurt it’s the wrong size 🙄 lol. Bike shoe fit seemed easier back in the day when the top shoes were all leather uppers, I raced in Vittoria’s with the wooden soles, you bought em sorta tight because they eventually stretched and formed around you foot, as long as you got the length right it was easy to take em to the shoe repair guy and have him stretch which ever shoe was feeling tight if they didn’t quite break in right. Today you kinda gotta get it right to begin with except if you get something heat moldable like the Bont I guess .. though I’ve never tried Bont bike shoes I do have Bont short track ice speed skates .. maybe I’ll try some Bont bike shoes. Thanks for the vid.
Cool vid. how do the Bont shoes compare in size to a sidi? I wear a 47 sidi but as you said, the toe box is tight. not sure where the dealers in my area are as that part of the bont website seems to be broken.
I feel that Sidi runs fairly Narrow. At least that's what I experienced several years ago. I always advise people to go try on specialized shoes at a local bike shop as I feel they are the most similar in size to Bont. I just tried getting on the bont website and it worked ok for me. Maybe try again? Are you in the US? If so, let me know, I have another contact (US Dealer) for you that would be able to help get you some shoes ordered.
Thank you for the kind words. I haven't tried lake, so I can't speak on behalf of their fit. I have a few mates that have worn them and truly love the fit and quality. For me, the reason I went with Bont is because of the ergonomic toe box. That's where my issue lies when dealing with shoes. It's not so much the mid section at all. So to have a shoe that I know is designed specifically for that common issue was peace of mind. I'm sure you will be happy either direction you choose to go, but if I had to give a suggestion strictly based off of what I know, I'd suggest Bont. I've beaten the crap out of mine and they have proven to be durable and perform the way I need a cycling shoe to. If you look on my Instagram page "Nickarend" You will see photos of my Bont collection. My white pair, I've had for 6 years now. Ridden in the rain and muck and with love and care for them after, they still look pretty new. Bont uses a "Duralast" material which helps keep them from absorbing dirt and grime. I hope that helps
Hi i have the Bont s 45u same size as outher bike shoes i have. Sime times geting left foot little toe area squashing up right foot seems ok fit ok room for toe areas in both feet any sugestions.
Hi. I'm interested to try Bont. I am wearing 42 Sidi regular width, I want a big more toe room, but same length. What is the Bont size equivalent to that? I tried but couldn't find any sizing chart. Thanks in advance.
hey buddy! I am between two sizes on these bonts I am looking at a 41 and a 42 I usually wear a mens 8 sometimes 7.5 and my foot measures lenght: 245mm and my width: is roughly 96.52-101.6mm any input would be awesome thanks....specialized 41 is way too narrow! sphyre fit okay but lose in the heal
Just out of curiosity, What height are you roughly? Also Do you find shoe size to often correlate with height? Robert wadlow, was/is considered to be the tallest confirmed man ever, at around 8'11½. He wore custom made size 37aa shoes. ('aa' is a narrow width, in proportion to length, 'd' would be a 'medium' width, and E, EE, 4E especially the very latter would be considered wide) Robert died young at around 22 yearsold. If you look up "peter the great" he was a Russian man who was around 6'8 in height, but apparently he had particularly short feet for his height. Exceptions to the rule as they say. Also i noticed hand and foot length don't always correlate, some guys who are shorter than me, have bigger hands than me, but take a smaller shoe size. Interesting stuff. How do you normally go about acquiring shoes anyways? If you don't mind me asking.
Whats up man . I am buying a pelaton plus for the house and thinking about buying fizik r5 tempo and I wear size 11 and it is 44.5 and the website where I am buying , they have 44 or 45 . Any suggestion ?
First thing, I would try to call some local bike shops near you and ask if they carry Fizik. If you find a place that does, ask if they will allow you to come down and try some on (Because of Covid). Go down and try a pair on. Not planning to buy them there unless they have a good deal, you are just trying on for size. But, dont tell them that. you dont want them to know you are only using them so you can reference the size. Just tell them, thanks you are going to think about it. That is unless, they have a great deal and you can buy them there. What you are looking for is a good fit that isn't too tight around the toes, but not too loose where your heel slips. If they do carry but price is high, then you at least know what size you need. Then look online for the best deal. If you cant find a local dealer, try to find on amazon so you can return free if needed. 3rd option, just go with the 45. rather have a hair big than a hair to small, especially if you only intend to use them on an indoor pelaton. Hope that helps!
I'm not all that active with my youtube channel anymore, so I don't really reply to comments. To be honest, everyone prefers their shoes to fit a bit differently, which is dependent on the shape of your foot. I have very wide feet and prefer to have nearly 12mm of extra toe box space for my feet to spread out. I'm in a Double wide Bont shoe these days and still prefer that room. However I know several friends who do not like the feeling of that extra room. They prefer something more along the lines of 3-4mm in the toe box. As long as you have some room for your toes to breath/wiggle you should be good. I'll also add, that at the time of making these videos, I was still learning how to film myself and discuss the topic. Sorry I wasn't presenting enough educational information
@@sonofacyclist2744 Apologies if I sound overly critical. I am an XC Racer who recently fell in love with Road riding. You would laugh actually as my entire living room is strewn with Sidi shoes I have ordered (5 pair) trying to get the right shoes. My original Sidi Dominator 7 in 44.5 fit perfect (from 2009) and now I am struggling to find the same fit. My Sidi Tiger 2s in 44.5 appear to fit. All the others are road shoes and are too small. So the other shoes I have decided to buy are the Sidi Carbon Air 2 (first road shoes) but the 44.5 my toes just graze the end and the narrower toe box pushes my big toe inward, so I am trying to figure out how to fit road shoes and if I need to go a half or full size up from my toes just grazing the end? I would definitely have bought the Bont shoes if I knew they existed. Their shape is what I am experimenting with in my running shoes (Altras), but I am a Sidi Pro and get them at enough of a discount that the Bont's will have to wait awhile. Thanks for the reply and stay safe! I hope you do more reviews on the Bont shape. I also hope Bont makes the bathtub softer and malleable. God Bless!
Great video, your experience sounds like what I am experiencing right now. I bought a pair of Sidi Shot 43.5 and they got my fit numbed; after half an hour on the bike, my foot just did not fit in there any more. Then I bought a size 44, which fit me very long; however, the same numbness still continues. Some hoe the toe box does not fit my toes. Looking to buy these Bonts. I am between sizes: 9.5 and 10. Which size do you recommend on these? Also, do you recommend any online store here in US?
I wear an 11 in Nike shoes and wear a 45 wide in Bont shoes. Id also recommend making sure that when you put your socks on, that you aren't pulling them in super tight. Leave some room at the end of the sock which will allow your toes to fan out a bit more as well. A lot of times we pull our socks on so tight that the compression from the socks pulls the toes tight together which in combination to having shoes that don't fit properly is a recipe for numb toes. As for US distributions, check out mc2sports.com/ Hope that helps! Cheers
@@sonofacyclist2744 I bought the Helix on size 9.5. The sizing is just excellent; like no other shoes. Now, I have been trying to get them mold all day long. The right shoe fitted me right out of the oven; however, the left one I can't get it to mold on the arch, more exactly where the boa wire passes. I started heating them at 170, then 190 and ended up 5min at 200F. Am I doing something wrong? Any advise? Thanks!
@@joselarrarte6964 Sorry I'm just now seeing this. Unfortunately, the arch isn't going to mold much if at all. Please don't go higher than the recommended heat temps though as it can really damage the durability of the resin in the carbon sole. You can try to use a thin insole to help mask the issue with the arch, but I'd stay away from thicker insoles as it will raise your foot, which could cause issues with heel slip.
Hey there. How would you describe the fit of these shoes? I just bought a new pair of Vaypor S.. did the recommending measurements ... matched it with the sizing chart to get a 46.5 size... and the toe box is roomy. Is that what you’re referring to in your description?
I know this is a 3 yr old content, but something I noticed is that you never talked about acceptable lengths of a shoe, what to consider. Do you get a size 47, when you really wear a 46.5, or do you go with the 46.5 as your standard shoe choice? New people won't know what is best and are susceptible to misinfo from a shop just selling new people what they might now need. Sure it works, but as you pointed out, you wore too tight shoes for years, because they salesman leaned you towards a shoe size that you probably never should have had. Maybe even talk about how Shimano shoes designs differ in fitment from most other shoe brands, as they might require a wedge to help the wearer to correct for an issue most people don't have.. I just felt like this was content about fitment, but really just a cloaked sale pitch for Bont.
Im not all that active with my youtube channel anymore, so I don't really reply to comments. To be honest, everyone prefers their shoes to fit a bit differently, which is dependent on the shape of your foot. I have very wide feet and prefer to have nearly 12mm of extra toe box space for my feet to spread out. I'm in a Double wide Bont shoe these days and still prefer that room. However I know several friends who do not like the feeling of that extra room. They prefer something more along the lines of 3-4mm in the toe box. As long as you have some room for your toes to breath/wiggle you should be good. I'll also add, that at the time of making these videos, I was still learning how to film myself and discuss the topic. Sorry I wasn't presenting enough educational information for you in this video. Was certainly not a sales pitch, but rather just a lack of experience.
Nobody will have it right for the first time, it's a trial and error game, that is how it becomes clear or obvious, after years and years of practice..
Have a look at the Bont shoes. Bont already has a wider, more ergonomic toe box and all mine are "Wides". They do not look abnormal to me. Check out my instagram page to look at me wearing them and judge for yourself. Check out my IG page "Nickarend"
@@sonofacyclist2744 thanks for your reply. I already have bought the sworks 7 wide version. Been riding the 6 in regular. I am amazed how roomy they are. I could not be happier with the fit. Perfect in every aspect. Especially the esthetic one