Ring continuity | Step One, two and three. (49) 

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Studying a C&G level 2 and really appreciate this this video it has made learning a lot better to understand!

Thank you for simple and great explanation for a new electrician student:)

I install radials these days. 4mm radials tick the boxes. Even on a kitchen i will install separate 4mm circuits to split up the loads. I also always use rcbo's to free up space on the cu to allow this even on smaller size boards. Works well so far

Great video, shows exactly why EICR's are necessary even if they seem pedantic. IMHO ring circuits are the worst things that were ever adopted and should be outlawed. They inherently allow for over current conditions on cables with no indication to the consumer that anything is wrong (if just one line conductor gets broken for example, then the ring can become unbalanced causing one leg to be overloaded). Add to that multiple extension cords and you have a fire just itching to break out.

Mans got a future as a lecturer very clear and explaining every aspect, great video for a apprentice to follow the steps, As for ring circuits I personally can see the plus side and down sides of them, most houses where I am working if they are a bungalow are two rings minimum which is over kill and every two up two down is 3 as a minimum this is great until someone adapts or adds to them especially i have come across a lot of folk adding multiple spurs from the DB let alone the sockets themselves, I think with new builds I personally depending on the size of build would advice one ring in the kitchen and possibly another if needs be and the rest to be radials,

Smashing, I much rather prefer radials. Easier to trace faults test and there's less chance of broken continuity. A broken ring circuit can easily go undetected and effectively be used whilst being dangerously overloaded.

I'm a recently retired industrial JIB GOLD CARD APPROVED Electrician of 50 years and I'm a great beleiver in ringmain circuits sorry if I refuse to call them final ring circuits,I think the modern domestic sparks is just a lazy bugger wanting an easier life ,even in the industrial sector they went over to radial circuits but because of the length of runs we were wiring them in 6mm it became bloody crazy ,I like the sockets with duel earth terminals where you split the cpcs one in each terminal so if you lose one cpc you always have a path to earth

Great contents to the points with fault finding :) , Hopefully more videos like that

I love rings as a home owner. So flexible. As long as I don’t have to test them!

Just love watching your videos everything is explained so clear, just a brilliant electrician

No matter how “carefully” you install and space sockets around a ring final circuit. One leg will always be prone to carrying a larger current than the other one. Imagine a kitchen ring with a large grid switch installed feeding low level appliances. (Dishwasher, washing machine, tumble drier, fridge/freezer etc) unless the grid is positioned at the exact midpoint of the ring one leg will take the brunt of the current for sustained periods, leading to premature ageing of certain conductors. Also there’s the issue of overloading individual legs of the circuit due to loose or broken connections, this can be the case for years and years and unless the homeowner has regular eicr’s this will go undetected. Great video and a great explanation🙏👍

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Good to see you back mate, always worth the watch cheers 👍👍

Excellent description of basic ring circuit testing

I've dropped you a sub, you was recommended on one of Dave Savery's videos. A very good guide with thorough explanation, brings back memories of my college days and you'd be a fab tutor. Keep up the good work and content.

Very well explained for the first time.

Fantastic timepiece. I had the Casio TV remote watch and lets say Dixons never found out who would turn off their TV's or leave them on full blast.

Glad to see you back. Great video as always 👍

Your good at explaining this would be great to have more testing videos for begginers

Good to see you back James . Rings r a pain in the arse especially when twisted together & rammed into a CU looking like a bird nest . 4mm radial for me or a limited number of sockets on 2.5 , keep it simple !

Very nice, I shall be adding a link to this in my teaching material.

Thanks J Beck for time is really worth to watch and Excellent explaininig the fault which is not easy to notice without carrying out testing, good work J Beck

Brilliant video mate

Love watching your videos everything is explained so clearly top job

nice to you back jb ,i need cheering up, wife was murdered by the nhs 22nd february 2021 aged 56

So if your readings on step 2 and 3 are slightly higher than expected what would cause that and how would you rectify it?

Another great video mate. Glad too see you back. Rings are fine until some diy'er does some DIY and breaks the ring. I personally wire in radials except the kitchen.

Great video 👏. Prefer to fit, test and fault find on radial circuits. It's far quicker and less chance of unknown hidden faults. Ring okay for a kitchen but these days there is no need . All major appliances are usualy on there own dedicated radials these days so no real reason to use a ring . Also you can even splt the kitchen Into 2 radials left and right so if there is a fault they are not without power across the full kitchen. Only place I sometimes prefer a ring is larger utility room but usualy a last resort. What's your thought on hybrid rings/radial, have you came across many?

Welcome back 😆

Great video, would love to see more testing videos!

Great video! Wish you were my tutor at college! Be interesting to see you carry out Insulation Resistance testing. Cheers!

Great video James 😎

Good video Jimmy Beckett 👌🏼 I might try this myself when I finish wiring a ring 😃

After all this time I still can't work out how a conductor can show continuity if its swapped over in a fitting. Surely you would get an open circuit on a ring? in stage 1? (9:55)

and what time do you call this? 🙂 for ring circuits: it's just the way it's always been done, since before I was born anyway. So if you want to do this work, you just have to work with them all the time. Would there be much difference in price between doing a ring and using 4mmsq on a 32A radial? Cause if it was more cost effective, that would get rid of them overnight.

Great video, can you do other tests thanks

Great vid mate, please don’t take this as criticism it’s really a question. When I did my 2391 I was taught to do end to end on all 3 terminals. Then do an R1+R2 at all sockets, should I be interlinking R1+Rn and testing all sockets as you did in the vid as well as I haven’t due to the way I have been taught.The fault would have shown still on just an R1+R2 but my question is should I still be testing R1+Rn as good practice?

What’s the copper cable prices looking like in Blighty mate? Prices here in USA are just gone crazy 3-4 times what they were a year ago. Rockers are rocking🤣 headbangers rule. Waiting for Cablesmith to enter the discussion.

We always have to turn ring into radial.

I remember someone saying it was due to a copper shortage after WW2

Correctly installed and maintained rings are fine!

You don't need to rewire just downrate the circuit. EICR's are not about safety they're about making money otherwise they'd be mandatory in homeowners homes too. The rental sector is easy pickings for cowboy electricians.

Personally, I dislike RFCs for the simple reason that people over the years add and mess around wit them. I have a job on Monday we’re someone has made a right mess of the whole house ring.. I found the cables in separate MCBs (both 32A) and half the sockets not working with the other half displaying a line and neutral reverse fault. No continuity on anything, but a new kitchen fitted (8 months old). After some digging I found a break in the line conductor at the back of a socket but still nothing on the neutral and CPC. There is a junction box somewhere under the floor or in a wall which I need to find as there is old colours and new colours cable with not obvious joint. I like a challenge but this job has already had an afternoon off me and I’ve now cleared a whole day to get to the bottom of it! Radials are so much easier to work on and at this rate, I might be putting a new one in!