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Rings of Power First Thoughts (Spoiler free) 

Jess of the Shire
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Sorry about the low video quality on this one, y’all. Apparently I was too excited to set up good lighting. Here’s my first thoughts on the Rings of Power, let me know what you thought in the comments! Make sure you like and subscribe, thanks for watching!
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@Destructor111
@Destructor111 Год назад
Casually wiping tears away with a rat? That's a new one on me.
@joshuahadden8178
@joshuahadden8178 7 месяцев назад
😂😂 under rated comment
@The_Gallowglass
@The_Gallowglass Год назад
I cried, because of how bad it was written.
@davidwalker8195
@davidwalker8195 2 года назад
As a Tolkien fan, I'm crying too.
@WilfChadwick
@WilfChadwick 2 года назад
The producers saw South Park and thought "We need Token!", not realising that South Park Token has a history and position within the writers' minds. Oh dear, outthunk by a couple of clowns without an accessible library of ''How to..." books(Tolkien's mind on paper)
@Brams2777
@Brams2777 5 месяцев назад
​@WilfChadwick I think you mean Tolkien, Token would be a pretty fucked up name for a black kid.
@hedinsee6830
@hedinsee6830 7 месяцев назад
I cried too. I lamented the desecration of the Professor's work right at the beginning and I could not continue with this horror.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 7 месяцев назад
There is a misheard Elven line (that sadly I forgot to record for own captioning) that I find iconic for the show: _"Do you know ... why my shit floats?"_
@zaxx
@zaxx 2 года назад
"The writers were out of their comfort zone when writing the dialog" - correct
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 7 месяцев назад
No, I think removing their comfort zone would have gotten someone fired, and so they worked fully within it.
@serenityvalley9409
@serenityvalley9409 5 месяцев назад
Yeah I think they were well within their comfort zone when it came to writing dialog for a self-absorbed feminist who sees herself as a perpetual victim.
@elhombreylahistoria7
@elhombreylahistoria7 2 месяца назад
That's a very euphemistic way to express that writers were in the braindead zone.
@nataliestclair6176
@nataliestclair6176 7 месяцев назад
I didn't cry, I sobbed...I sobbed how Amazon ruined the great world amd characters Tolkien created. Just fanfic and terrible fanfic at that
@petekaiser8856
@petekaiser8856 3 месяца назад
They ruined the whole world and characters? Really? You give Amazon that much power? Whoa.
@Dr.CumsteinMD
@Dr.CumsteinMD 5 месяцев назад
There's no amount of wine that could prepare me to watch this show.
@KGtradezxyz
@KGtradezxyz Год назад
Idk how any true Tolkien fan can genuinely enjoy Rings of Power.
@FinalShotFilms
@FinalShotFilms 7 месяцев назад
Let people like things loser
@TomQuixote39
@TomQuixote39 5 месяцев назад
I don’t know how anyone who enjoys well crafted stories can enjoy it
@tsemayekekema2918
@tsemayekekema2918 4 месяца назад
It's just the 1st 2 episodes, not enough time to ruin it
@DoomDadward
@DoomDadward 4 месяца назад
Well with a big bowl of snacks and multiple viewings lol can't wait for season 2!
@5quepasa
@5quepasa 2 месяца назад
Pretty easily in fact
@gimlisonofgloin5437
@gimlisonofgloin5437 Год назад
"Quasi-Shakesperean" is a perfect way to describe the dialogue
@brickgarden
@brickgarden 8 месяцев назад
I couldn’t watch it, not after they fired the Tolkien scholar for warning them they were straying too far from the lore, ghosting Peter Jackson, and releasing it on Tolkiens death date, and also filling it full of 2023 allegory. I couldn’t do it.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 6 месяцев назад
Okay, maybe if you find it THAT offensive, Tolkien's death day is an issue, which I have to admit I do not know - although I can tell you when Arthedain fell! - maaaybe you should not watch it :D
@adamdavis1648
@adamdavis1648 6 месяцев назад
How do you know that it's full of 2023 allegory if you couldn't watch it? 🤔
@brickgarden
@brickgarden 6 месяцев назад
@@adamdavis1648 There's plenty of reviews from those that suffered through watching it so the rest of us wouldn't have to. Forced diversity, girl bosses, fresh buzz cuts in a world without clippers...poorly written lines like "the world was so young there had not yet been a sunrise..." while showing ruins in the background. The whole thing was a mess and a half.
@cally77777
@cally77777 5 месяцев назад
@@brickgarden If you feel you don't want to watch it, that is your right. Seems a bit sad if you are a Tolkien fan, since you might have found something you liked. You could stop watching anytime. But you will never know. And, by the way, since you didn't watch it, you don't get to have an opinion on it. Whether it was a mess or not, you don't know.
@brickgarden
@brickgarden 5 месяцев назад
@@cally77777 As I stated before, I watched countless hours of analysts reviews and frame-by-frame stills (i.e. Shadversity's breakdowns on the messy sword fighting), and heard enough of the dialog / ammeter writing ("Give the me meat and give it to me raw", and "Why does a rock not float and a boat does", or some BS), to know it was not worth my time (but the reviews were entertaining. Check out Nerdorotic/FNT/KnightsWatch). So, yes, I can have my opinion because 1) I did my homework and 2) If you haven't noticed, a lot of franchises have been ruined by the far-left ideology, and Tolkien, unfortunately, did not escape the same fate as Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr. Who, and my much-beloved Disney that is currently being burned to the ground, simply because activism has to be put over just having an entertaining story, and 3) While I'm not in the front lines of the current culture war I'm not going to sit idly by and keep quiet about Tolkien being given the middle finger, from fear of offending people online who are offended by everything under the sun. A lot of corporations push the DEI stuff to make them "look good" and hide the illegal practices they're doing *cough* Disney *cough*. I'm very aware of what's going on, and 4) Galadriel is 1000s of years old, giving her a character arc is completely stupid.
@karmicbacklash
@karmicbacklash 2 года назад
Crying is absolutely an appropriate response to being exposed to RoP
@Anna-tj7mp
@Anna-tj7mp Год назад
I watched a little group of bullying little elves, and the hideous 1970s hairstyles of male elves, and switched off.
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 6 месяцев назад
Also sleepiness
@romesvonwolf
@romesvonwolf 2 года назад
I don't get, but I'm actually very curious what moments you found emotionally compelling... for me, it all fell flat.
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire 2 года назад
It should be noted that I am a very easy crier, lol. The introduction of the halfling characters is one of the first ones that got me. Say what you will about their lore relevancy, but they reminded me of some of my favorite parts of both Hobbits and my own childhood, and really woke up a sense of wonder in me. Another moment was the reveal of Moria. It was a very striking design, and I've always struggled to picture it, so seeing it was very much "Oh wow! That's what it looks like! It's a shame it fell flat for you, but emotional resonance is definitely a tricky thing. Everyone has their own opinions. Thanks for watching!
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 7 месяцев назад
@@Jess_of_the_Shire You are the town crier. 😅 It sounds like you focused on the form. You yourself even hinted at the great anticipation potential after a long hiatus of the franchise, so I can understand that aspect, but there is so much more to discover. I always find it helpful to have many different viewpoints and understanding that they can all provide insight, and people who for example are very enlightened about the societal context of the times see that kind of big picture, see a lot of stuff that can be a burden if treated with hostility but a boon if embraced as further detailing the full picture. (Remember that evil works through deception, through imitation of something true. 😉) Especially people who are not easy to fool are having a very hard time in contrast to the mainstream. But they are the ones working for standards to rise. To use an analogy, they are the kind of people who don't just judge food quality by taste but examine the chemistry in a lab to look for pathogens. To them the 'hidden forces at work' are not hidden at all; quite the opposite. Evil would never be able to set roots if it didn't present itself very appealing. (I am reminded of a scene from Revolver right now. Excellent movie!)
@adamdavis1648
@adamdavis1648 6 месяцев назад
​@@DowlphinAre you implying that Rings Of Power is evil? 🤔
@seanmalloy0528
@seanmalloy0528 5 месяцев назад
​@@Jess_of_the_ShireI think it butchered the personalities
@ronweasley9001
@ronweasley9001 4 месяца назад
"Hoooooi Boi" gave me Morty vibes
@Sams911
@Sams911 6 месяцев назад
Tolkien would be rolling in his grave if he saw this show... holy mother of Pizarro world of Tokein's vision.
@pudgypanda6391
@pudgypanda6391 2 года назад
I cried too …. I cried just how bad this show actually is. The acting is terrible, the story / script is awful. The cgi and sets are fantastic which is the only saving grace (style over substance) . They should of never of fired Tom Shippey, it’s fairly evident on why he departed the show.
@davidokinsky114
@davidokinsky114 2 года назад
I didnt hate it as much as I was expecting to. Galadriel being as OP was a bit cringe, and when/if the meteor guy is revealed to be gandalf will be extra cringe. But I was expecting much worse.
@antix66
@antix66 2 года назад
Right there with you. I cried when I realized the writers did the impossible-- they made Galadriel insufferable and completely unlikable in every way. I didn't think that was possible even in poorly written fanfic, yet here we are.
@bobmcdermit9857
@bobmcdermit9857 2 года назад
Acting was good, the script was good, you nerds need to get a life and stop nitpicking.
@pudgypanda6391
@pudgypanda6391 2 года назад
@@bobmcdermit9857 it’s great that you think the acting is good, Personally I did not. Does that make me a nerd for having an opinion ? No it does not. also there is a lot of people who dislike what they have done with the show, fans and non fans all dislike the acting and story. It can’t be nitpicking if there is consensus opinion which have all came to the same conclusion.
@bobmcdermit9857
@bobmcdermit9857 2 года назад
@@pudgypanda6391 You crying for how bad it was makes you a nerd lol
@Dieter-Doeddel
@Dieter-Doeddel 7 месяцев назад
For somebody who made a ton of "why Peter Jackon's LotR movies suck", you were very lenient on RoP and rather reminded me of an Amazon super fan.^^
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 7 месяцев назад
I watched it feeling slightly annoyed. So many things that were done in a sloppy way, bordering unintentional comedy. Plus, Prime Video itself is a pain to use in so many ways. And I am not even heavy on the original lore, so that part would probably have multiplied my vexations. Generally it bothers me when a high budget industry that even pretends to have people specifically for reviewing material and ironing out the kinks fails to do exactly that; when a story had a handful of major cringers that could easily have been resolved to not ruin the overall immersion.
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 6 месяцев назад
Wtf is an Amazon super fan? Like, someone who just really loves buying stuff off Amazon or collects Amazon merchandise or something? Or someone who really like Amazon prime and the like 6 total original shows it has?
@Dieter-Doeddel
@Dieter-Doeddel 6 месяцев назад
@@offtheshelfET an amazon superfan is a youtuber, media person and such paid by amazon to pretend their Rings of Power is so much better than Peter Jackson's trilogy. You hear nigh no critisizm by her of this series while nitpicking on Jackson's movies with countless videos. At least Jackson was close to the source material while Rings of Power even retconned the original books in many parts. So, yeah, she reminds me of those Amazon Super Fans.
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 6 месяцев назад
@@Dieter-Doeddel Nitpicking changes is different from calling something a bad adaptation, I don't think she's ever said that the Jackson movies are bad or that Rings of Power is better. And even then, she's nitpicked changes in this show too, she made a whole video criticizing the costumes. Not to be rude but your whole idea that there's some sort of agenda from Amazon to discredit the Jackson movies is just weird to me. I can see why Amazon would pay critics off to give a positive review but why would they pay critics off to diss the Jackson movies when this show relies so heavily on imagery from those films? It feels like you're taking any kind of positive review of this show as a personal attack against the films. And anyway, I'd agree that the show is dogshit but I'm just not following your logic here
@Dieter-Doeddel
@Dieter-Doeddel 6 месяцев назад
@@offtheshelfET and to me it appears you are very naive. Disney Star Wars did the same for instance, their youtube proxies trying to depict the new movies and series' superior to the predecessors. Imagine, big companies do have their own agendas, if you believe it or not.
@swimmingbird3240
@swimmingbird3240 6 месяцев назад
The screen print armor made me cry. 😑 I can’t stand this show. You’re an angel, and you like whatever you want, but even as a Philadelphian, I don’t have the venom I feel this show deserves. 😡
@SpankMyFace
@SpankMyFace 2 года назад
I *really* wish these massive corporations would stop buying up these beloved franchises and story series, to then just strip them for parts to gain access to an already-established fanbase. If you make a pizza, then throw it in the blender, is the resulting product still a pizza? Disney has done this with Star Wars and Marvel, Amazon is doing this with Lord of the Rings, and Netflix has done this with Resident Evil and Cowboy Bebop. And not to mention Star Trek, whoever owns that title now. If they're not going to tell the "Lord of the Rings" story, why are they calling this series "Lord of the Rings"?
@bobmcdermit9857
@bobmcdermit9857 2 года назад
Why are they calling this series "Lord of the Rings"? Are you serious? LOL Sauron eventually emerges and tricks the Elves into creating the Rings of Power, Thus becoming the lord of the rings. WOW....
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire 2 года назад
I definitely agree with some of your points here. I would love to see original stories getting told, or new adaptations of stories that have not been adapted for the screen before. On the other hand, I still do enjoy seeing old works reconfigured, and don't want to fall into the habit of completely dismissing re-adaptations from the get-go. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
@kevinroche3334
@kevinroche3334 2 года назад
By the Gods, you made me feel old when you said you were two when the films came out!!!
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 7 месяцев назад
It saddens me a bit that I cannot say for sure whether I watched them in theater. I think I did, though. And then on DVD.
@tric5122
@tric5122 7 месяцев назад
I also cried several times during the first episode, but for very different reasons.
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 11 месяцев назад
The fact that you've made nothhing more than a costume video about this show speaks volumes. Never was the phrase "damned by faint praise" more apt!
@dhLord64
@dhLord64 6 месяцев назад
Nah it’s cuz all the hatred in these comments. can’t handle that a lot of people actually didn’t think it’s the worst thing ever.
@galetinm
@galetinm 6 месяцев назад
​​​@@dhLord64She has no problem deconstructing the movies and other adaptations to the smallest of details of how they differ from the books. And a lot of people love the movies. This thing differs so much from the books that it's hard to find a connection to the books at all besides the names of characters and places. It would be an easy layup for her if she stood by her own defined principles. I don't believe she is afraid of the justified hate towards the show, maybe she is afraid of the other side, the cancel mob who call everyone who dislikes the show an -ist or a -phobe. Or she just doesn't want to lose a part of her audience because everything is being politicised to a degree that you're put on either side of the political spectrum simply for liking or disliking a show. Maybe she's just not a confrontational person, and this show is very divisive and controversial. Still, I think she dislikes it judging by her other critiques.
@DefinitelyAPotato
@DefinitelyAPotato 5 месяцев назад
@@galetinm People like talking about what they like
@galetinm
@galetinm 6 месяцев назад
So you made so many videos about how much you didn't like the movies, how they differ from the books, and you do this mild critique of this abomination? That's really suspicious.
@cally77777
@cally77777 5 месяцев назад
When did Jess say she didn't like the movies? She has criticised certain aspects of them, but that doesn't mean she hates them. She has said about how she grew up with them. You want everyone to have the same extreme reaction that you do? What is suspicious?
@bry8636
@bry8636 5 месяцев назад
@@cally77777that she would be critical at all of Jackson’s series and then tread so lightly on RoP The contrast is stark.
@DefinitelyAPotato
@DefinitelyAPotato 5 месяцев назад
She has repeatedly praised the films what the fuck are you talking about? Noting that some things were better in the book doesn't change that.
@karrukera81
@karrukera81 2 месяца назад
You know nothing she loves the Peter Jackson movies. Tell us you don't listen her without telling us
@RakeeshJ4
@RakeeshJ4 9 дней назад
I mean…if she made so many videos, surely you can link one. Just one:)
@Titantro
@Titantro 3 месяца назад
I couldn't even finish the first episode
@whoknows4965
@whoknows4965 Год назад
I don't think anyone will ever watch this series again after watching it one time. It's bad.
@dark_winter8238
@dark_winter8238 5 месяцев назад
4 work colleagues and I were all watching ROP. We are all fairly big fantasy fans. I made it the furtherst quitting after the 6th episode. I'm not sure many people even made it to the end of season 1.
@whoknows4965
@whoknows4965 4 месяца назад
@@dark_winter8238 I think I made it to 5 or 6 myself before I quit too.
@bjiornbjiorn
@bjiornbjiorn 2 месяца назад
A year on, I've only gone back and watched specific scenes or jumped to particular storylines. I think you're right, I'm not sure I can see myself sitting down and watching it the whole way through again (in the same way I've never re-watched the Hobbit trilogy)
@arcadianartist
@arcadianartist 7 месяцев назад
I personally deeply, deeply disliked the show, for a whole ton of reasons that would take too long to explain here (but I did write an in-depth episode by episode review about it). There were definitely some things that I liked about it, such as the music and cinematography, and a few of the plotlines were cool. Particularly I enjoyed the Dwarves plotline (Disa and Durin had such a lovely relationship, and I thought it was such a nuanced detail that Elrond just sort of...ghosted Durin for twenty years because to an Elf (or rather Half-Elf), that isn't such a long time), and I also liked the Southlands plotline (I loved the family dynamic of Arondir, Bronwyn, and Theo, which was developed very satisfyingly). Personally Adar was my favorite character, and I'm very sad that Joseph Mawle will be leaving the show. I loved that the actual geography of Middle-Earth was expanded upon, and every city and landscape was utterly beautiful (especially Numenor and Khazad-Dum). I definitely got the feeling that this was Middle-Earth in its prime, especially compared to the sort of fading glory that was in the Third Age. But that was about all I liked, and the rest I deeply detested. Galadriel was a disrespectful, haughty, horrid person who thought herself better than EVERYONE and bullied her way through at every turn, and I wanted to introduce her head to a brick wall every single time she opened her mouth. The reveal of Halbrand as Sauron was so bad it made me cry. Celebrimbor was deeply disrespected as a character, and that hit me really hard since I love The Silmarillion and the Feanorians in particular. The mithril plotline was just so incredibly ridiculous, as was the fact that the ending felt incredibly rushed. I mean, the show is based on the forging of the Rings of Power, and that event happened in the last forty-five minutes of the last episode. I really wish that the show's storyline had remained accurate to the canon, as that story on its own is incredibly rich and heartbreaking, and would have been utterly amazing to see on screen. I think it's great that you're able to appreciate the good parts of it, and really experience the magic this show does have! I also totally get that we might have different opinions, I just wanted to share mine. I really love your content, you have such a unique channel and way of analyzing Tolkien's works, and you just seem like a truly real person who cares about life and branches out into different hobbies and interpretations, and that truly sets you apart from the content mill that is youtube today! anyways I know this video is a million years old, I just watched your video about the costuming of Rings of Power and highly enjoyed it (although we do have a bit of a differing opinion on the Elves' hair being cut), and that led me to this one!
@StevieAF
@StevieAF Год назад
Admit it. It sucked.
@whoknows4965
@whoknows4965 Год назад
Yea like... she has to know haha. She just wants so hard for it to be good. It will not ever be something anyone actually goes back to rewatch and enjoy. It's not only bad but intentionally made to piss people off. The creators of the show literally have acknowledged they wanted to piss people off that care about the lore and culture of the story.
@galetinm
@galetinm 6 месяцев назад
She has no problem critiquing the movies. It's disappointing.
@5quepasa
@5quepasa 2 месяца назад
This Wandering Day is one of my favorite scenes of any show in a decade
@camotophat
@camotophat 7 месяцев назад
I'm assuming since this is your only review of RANGS, you didn't feel comfortable telling the truth and saying its crap, and it got crappier as you kept watching. I agree with your other vid, people need to give things a chance and allow for change and adaptation. But when things are garbage, we need to admit they are garbage.
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 6 месяцев назад
I think she probably just didn't want to talk about the show after how much hate this video got. It's sad to me how the internet pulls people into its drama rather than just letting creators live. If the show isn't fun for her to talk about then she doesn't have to talk about it. She liked the trailer, and since the show hadn't come out yet then that's fine. It's fine to like a trailer for something even if the final product is bad.
@camotophat
@camotophat 6 месяцев назад
​@@offtheshelfET Well, not to be that guy but the people at Amazon didn't exactly stay true to the message and ideals of the original text/world. The thing that made the books and the PJ movies so popular to begin with. They made yet another show that was strongly aimed at 10% of the viewing audience. Namely, other people who live within the bubble that is the Hollywood system. A practice (going 10 years strong now) that can't just tell a story, but feels the need to have a strong social message that demonizes a very large portion of the audience, for crimes they had no part of, that happened long ago, and are now being used for social political gain. Not for nothing but, most people are very very tired of these "creators" playing fan fic with things they love, and turning them from hand crafted heirlooms, into mass marketed t r a s h on par with the discount crocs bin at walmart.
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 6 месяцев назад
@@camotophat when I said creators I was referring to content creators like this girl, not the creators of the show. Obviously the show runners have a responsibility to engage with this series since it’s their job but this girl does not have a responsibility to make a video about the show if she doesn’t want to
@galetinm
@galetinm 6 месяцев назад
@@offtheshelfET I doubt that's the reason. More probably she doesn't like it because it strays too much from anything that has to do with Tolkien lore and she's all about being true to that, but doesn't want to say it publicly because either she is on the same political side as the showrunners, or is afraid of what would she be accused of for disliking it, or both. I don't doubt that she would also get in trouble in the comments if she would say that she liked parts of it, but I also don't doubt that she would post it if she truly believed that it's good, she would back it up with arguments. Objectively, considering her other videos, there's no way she likes it as a whole. She's probably going with "if you don't have anything nice to say about it, say nothing at all". It would be disappointing if the reason she's saying nothing was what I think it is. That would be cowardly of her.
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 6 месяцев назад
@@galetinm what do politics have to do with any of this? I think you guys seem to have this bizarre disconnect from reality where you believe that saying you liked or didn’t like this show is a political statement and people are being silenced which is just objectively not true. You can find plenty of big pc publications slamming this show who haven’t been accused of racism or anything. Almost everyone hates this show regardless of politics so I doubt the reason is that she fears she’ll be called a bigot. Maybe a very vocal minority of people would but not enough people to justify going silent on the topic. It seems more likely to me that she would be afraid of being attacked by the majority who hate the show for saying anything nice about it even if it’s just small compliments, than an extremely small minority who would call her a bigot.
@thedoor43
@thedoor43 7 месяцев назад
Oh no... she really said she likes Galadriel...
@mainstreetsaint36
@mainstreetsaint36 7 месяцев назад
Fun sized Galadriel. Was it really that tough to get a tall woman?
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 6 месяцев назад
The show hadn’t come out yet, if only she could’ve known what Galadriel would be like in the finished thing😔
@robfrydryck127
@robfrydryck127 Год назад
I cried too, RoP wan an abomination. It politicized a beautiful classic. They wrecked the elven race and dressed dwarves in goddy outfits. They have no clue who Galadrie isl
@Thraim.
@Thraim. Год назад
What irks me is the meaningless phrases that are supposed to be deep. "A rock only looks downwards" "The sea is always right" I kept waiting for these to pay off, but they never did. It was just shitty world building.
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 6 месяцев назад
"Do you know why a stone sinks but a ship floats? Because the density of stone is greater than the density of water. Ships on the other hand, are typically made of wood, which are buoyant."
@cally77777
@cally77777 5 месяцев назад
@@offtheshelfET I think you completely missed the metaphor there. Yes, we know the real reason a stone sinks etc. That wasn't the point Finrod was making.
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 5 месяцев назад
@@cally77777 I know this is satirical
@bry8636
@bry8636 5 месяцев назад
@@cally77777 i think you don’t know what a metaphor is. A metaphor takes a universal truth to make something not so relatable, more relatable. That was a ridiculous attempt at metaphor because a rock doesn’t ‘look downwards’, it’s just nonsense forced into the appearance of metaphor
@allisongliot
@allisongliot 2 года назад
You put words to some things that bothered me about it that I didn’t consciously recognize until now. I want to give the show a little more time before I form an opinion, but I will say that Galadriel and Elrond don’t really feel like Galadriel and Elrond to me at all. They might be interesting in their own right, but I kind of wish the creators had just started with new characters from scratch rather than pulling names from the original LoTR.
@cally77777
@cally77777 5 месяцев назад
In the case of Elrond not feeling like Elrond, I would suggest very strongly that is because of the influence of Peter Jackson's films. Elrond in ROP is closer to the 'kind as summer' character in Tolkien's books, than Hugo Weaving's rather dour (though interesting) portrayal. Galadriel I will at least concede is a bit out there, but she isn't entirely removed from the book character, who was seen as a perilous sorceress by some, and did feel the temptation of the Ring. Further some of her close kin amongst the First Age elves were of a much more fiery disposition, and she certainly had much cause for angst after the wars against Morgoth. She is a possible version of Galadriel that could have come to be.
@DillonOrbon
@DillonOrbon 6 месяцев назад
It was shit, but no surprise someone with pronouns in their bio would try to make excuses for how bad this was in every way.
@Mystic_Christopher
@Mystic_Christopher 11 месяцев назад
The lotr fan in me could not stand this show. I like the actor who plays Elrond, but that's about it.
@Perktube1
@Perktube1 Год назад
How about that elvish hair - Salon Selective!
@andrewvincent7299
@andrewvincent7299 6 месяцев назад
Not really Elvish hair. More like Elvis hair. Especially Elrond lol
@JaKorsarz
@JaKorsarz 11 месяцев назад
You were drinking wine during watching Rings of Power? You got my full support. As a Tolkien fan, i would rather choose something stronger to watch this ... this... there is no word in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this... this...
@Mythdoubt
@Mythdoubt 2 года назад
When she jumped the ship the show jumped the shark.
@alexkerry7631
@alexkerry7631 6 месяцев назад
"if you're coming here to see a continuation of Tolkiens universe as you remember it, I don't know if you're necessarily going to be happy" 5:45 I'd fall into that category. Not a fan of Games of Thrones of other fantasy shows of the like, it was definietly TOLKIEN I was looking for. Which I felt like we were promised, and from a huge budget like Amazon. Instead I'm crying while re-reading the Simarilion, thinking of what they could of put on the screen. Even by most filmmaking aspects it's a lack-luster piece. Lots of dodgy dialogue, awkward camera framing, and at times some very unfortunate acting. The mixed race cast wasn't an issue for me. The black female dwarf was actually one of my favourite characters, even if she had nothing to do with Tolkein. Here's my hope. It inspires a new generation to read Toklien, then it at least did something right. It'll make his great stories look even better then they did before.
@pippin333
@pippin333 6 месяцев назад
How could any Tolkien fan feel anything but disgust watching that crap?
@ChristaCrow
@ChristaCrow 6 месяцев назад
I think it’s really cool when people don’t hate on people for enjoying the things they enjoy.
@johnnypetro9314
@johnnypetro9314 11 месяцев назад
Using your pet rat as a tissue to wipe your eyes 😂
@JayBee-of1zw
@JayBee-of1zw 2 года назад
Bad fan fiction. Actually just bad fiction. The showstoppers have publicly stated their contempt of JRR Tolkien, so they are not fans.
@Eudaimonist
@Eudaimonist 5 месяцев назад
Morgoth made that show. It's the only explanation.
@scythianking7315
@scythianking7315 Год назад
Supposed Tolkein fans liking this show when it is LITERALLY Political Propaganda is just mind blowing. I can only assume it's because they happen to align with and agree with the political ideology being pushed. -Black Elf who has to deal with discrimination/racism from Humans(White ones of course). With lines like "why can't you people just get over it" directed at the elf. -The classic angry guy(again a white guy of course, all the evil characters are white men) screaming about not wanting immigrants in his city. -The CONSTANT girl-bossing, and ultra-masculine Female characters. These are in just the first few episodes and are OBVIOUS references to modern politics. This isn't just a poorly made show, it's an intentional desecration and corruption of Tolkein's work. Period. It is disgusting, and Tolkein would be disgusted with it as well
@jakemoon639
@jakemoon639 2 года назад
The lil rat tissue was precious xD
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire 2 года назад
Don't worry, no rats were harmed in the making of this review!
@frekitheravenous516
@frekitheravenous516 Год назад
Tolkien said he wrote the books for the "English" People. Based off the "Germanic" mythology and histories of the Scandinavian and Anglo-Saxon people specifically. So what amazon did was a slap in the face to us culturally. No different than if they made shaka zulu asian or mlk Irish.
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 Год назад
Quite a lot of different actually. Stories about MLK and Shaka Zulu almost always involve race as we understand it so making details like skin tone accurate is relevant. In Tolkien's world, race has nothing to do with skin tone since to him races were things like men, elves, dwarves and hobbits. Since it is apparent what race every character is in ROP, there are no issues here. As to being influenced by Norse mythology, you might be interested to know that Norse dwarves are actually dark elves, which means, yes, they have dark skin tone. But fear not,it turns out that Sophie Nomvete who plays Disa is in fact a true Aryan, which is to say she is of Iranian descent. Feel better?
@cristiani.lepindea8676
@cristiani.lepindea8676 Год назад
@@gunkulator1 dark elves means evil or cold not black!
@scythianking7315
@scythianking7315 Год назад
@@gunkulator1 Really? It's "Apparent what race every character is"? I don't remember Elves ever being described as Black men with buzz cuts...... in ANY Mythology, in ANY story, or in ANY of Tolkein's works. If you creeps have such a fetish for dark skinned people and want them to be Elves THAT bad, just make some damn Dark Elves and portray them AS ELVES(With sharp angular features, elegant, long silky hair etc.). Whats next, all the "Elves" in Rivendel going to have afros and playing hip-hop while twerking? I mean "ItS JuSt FantAsY" right? It's just an "Adaption" right. So why not? Also do you have any sources that described Dwarves/Dark Elves as Dark skinned? As someone else pointed out, Dark is usually a reference to evil in this context, not skin color...... People that live underground would theoretically be extremely PALE skinned from lack of sunlight, not dark And since you don't like his Shaka Zulu example, let me give you a better one. We don't want to see Asian Fantasy movies where the Ancient Kung-Fu master appears, and he's a blue-eyed White guy with spiky Blonde hair. It would be RIDICULOUS, and NO ONE would be okay with it. But when the exact same thing is done to European Cultural works, you all support it and come up with the most elaborate mental gymanstics to justify it. Also "Aryans" are not "Iranian", not sure what twisted cultural Marxist told you that lie. Aryans were a group of Indo-Europeans who were originally from the Russian Steppe/Ukraine and who migrated to Northern India. Nothing AT ALL to do with Iranians. So no, Sophie Nomvete is not "Aryan" in any way. Btw "Iranic" as a language group has nothing to do with Ethnic Iranians. So please, just get this over with and admit you are an anti-white Lefty
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 11 месяцев назад
@@cristiani.lepindea8676 Dökkálfar or Svartálfr are the Norse terms for dark elves, or dwarves. Svart means black, not evil and certainly not cold. The English word swarthy has the same Germanic root and it too means dark. Tolkien himself uses the term "swarthy men" to mean dark skinned men, not evil men or cold men. Similarly, Dökk also means dark. In contrast, the other kind of elf in Norse mythology is Ljósálfar or light elves. Neither the dark elves nor the light elves were considered innately evil in Norse mythology.
@bry8636
@bry8636 5 месяцев назад
@@gunkulator1 Tolkien wrote in response to preliminary sketches of a potential animated movie that the characters should not be of ‘Aegean appearance’ referring in particular to the skin tone and features. So if Tolkien himself was concerned enough to write about his misgivings, given he was writing a mythos for the English, why would anyone presume they know better? Tolkien didn’t want his titular characters represented by southern Europeans. But somehow subsaharan is fine? Tolkien clearly defines the Rohirrim as fair and blonde haired. The Numenoreans fair and darker of hair. If it wasn’t important to Tolkien, he wouldn’t have bothered describing racial characteristics. Tolkien describes races of men, call them what you will, as well as the Noldor, Sindar, and sylvan elves, as well as the different ‘races’ of hobbits differently using characteristics of race. It’s all in there. You can’t discount what Tolkien has written by presuming that races only concerned men, elves, dwarves and hobbits. To somehow make the leap that he was only concerned with race as it applied to elves and men and so forth just by virtue of their existence. It’s a non sequitur. How does having a broader group of races preclude a smaller subset of races? We have the Easterlings and the Haradrim. Who were overtly different in racial characteristics which Tolkien described. That was relevant to the story. Very relevant, because the different races of men were how the cultural divides existed. That’s how cultural mythos work. So no, Tolkien makes these distinctions of his own volition. As for the dark elves. Their skin was as ‘pitch’. But if you imagine them to have features of subsaharan Africans then that’s quite a reach. And what does it have at all to do with Tolkien’s elves who were only ever described as fair of skin?
@LukeTunkel
@LukeTunkel Месяц назад
I tried. It's probably not something I'm going to try harder at. Tolkien has impacted my personal religion so deeply, that my conception of the Divine Feminine has Galadriel being ancient and wise, in the way of immortals- and she embodies NOT needing armor or weapons, being patient, long, slow thoughts that wrap around a present vastly bigger than the here and now of mere mortals.
@scottjackson1420
@scottjackson1420 2 месяца назад
I feel for you, Jess. At what point did the tears become tears of sadness at the show's lack of quality?
@821lancevance
@821lancevance 10 месяцев назад
Easily one of the worst tv shows in existence. Craps on the lore, terrible costumes, elves with short hair, Guyladril being insufferable girl boss, plot just doesnt make sense in many ways. I have hope in the animated movie coming out next year by warner bros. Its only up from here.
@pinkkfloydd
@pinkkfloydd 3 месяца назад
Ain't no way a Tolkien fan likes the corporate slop of RoP.
@goysgoysgoys
@goysgoysgoys 3 месяца назад
Looks like it was sponsored by Amazon
@genin69
@genin69 Год назад
This show was the worst thing that has ever happened to Tolkien. Hes turning in his grave in valinor and giving everyone the eye of sauron
@blankface5052
@blankface5052 Год назад
Look how they massacred my boy.
@dissident_media
@dissident_media 2 года назад
U ever feel guilty about crying remember kevin smith probably cried more
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire 2 года назад
Lol I've never felt guilty about crying! I was born a drama queen and so I shall die as one
@stormevans6897
@stormevans6897 2 года назад
lmao
@gantorisdurran710
@gantorisdurran710 7 месяцев назад
I spared myself the tears by not watching this dumpster fire.
@cally77777
@cally77777 5 месяцев назад
No you spared yourself the right to have any opinion on it.
@gantorisdurran710
@gantorisdurran710 5 месяцев назад
@@cally77777 I know trash when I see it, doesn't take a genius to see how bad that show was why put myself through hours of irritation. If i wanted awful fanfic thats what i would consume.
@Perktube1
@Perktube1 Год назад
Poor Guyladriel- got Mary Sued. 😅
@mainstreetsaint36
@mainstreetsaint36 7 месяцев назад
Galadriel in the books was like over 6 ft tall. They done shrunk her (from what I heard).
@DefinitelyAPotato
@DefinitelyAPotato 5 месяцев назад
MaRy SuE!!!!!
@bjiornbjiorn
@bjiornbjiorn 2 месяца назад
Nit-picking here but she isn't a Mary Sue. She's a Cassandra archetype mixed with the warrior princess trope and, by definition, a Cassandra archetype can't be a Mary Sue.
@galetinm
@galetinm 6 месяцев назад
I actually appreciated some of your videos and critiques of various adaptations and Tolkien documentaries until I saw this. You have no problem deconstructing every little detail, finding out if it was in the spirit of Tolkien or not, and you do this on every other piece of media about Tolkien except this. Your objectivity is pretty suspicious. If you did an honest video about this you would destroy it to bits. It's pretty disappointing, I really looked forward to subscribing, but alas.
@artikelservice796
@artikelservice796 5 месяцев назад
yeah, i watch some of her video when criticizing the trilogy movie which as a book reader i can agree to some extent, but in this video she didnt even give some critics about how the series stray too far from the source material
@grokeffer6226
@grokeffer6226 Год назад
I decided to boycott the show early on before the show came out.
@mayobandit
@mayobandit 2 года назад
The elves are easily the mostly poorly done part so far, which is worrying given how much the second age involves elves. I hate the style they've gone for with them and the dialogue is just so poor. The actor playing Elrond, seems like a good actor but he just doesn't look like an elf to me, his round face just screams Hobbit and the hair just looks silly.
@008ay.sumanth7
@008ay.sumanth7 2 года назад
Same here. I just can't pinpoint my problem but everything i hate about this is the elves. They just don't feel elf to me. I like the Peter Jackson's version, you just know who is an elf and who is man just by looking not by searching for pointy ear.being said that I would rather watch the talks of elrond then the action of galadriel.
@marquee-moon
@marquee-moon 6 месяцев назад
I thought the biggest problem with the show was betraying Tolkien's original, straightforward storytelling style in pursuit of JJ Abrams Puzzle Box nonsense.
@jpotter2086
@jpotter2086 2 месяца назад
It's just churning the money machine, trying to capitalize on nostalgia for Jackson's movies. Which Jackson himself could not do, creatively / critically speaking. It's another year and now we're told they're dragging in Tom Bombadil. Cripes.
@lesta6433
@lesta6433 2 года назад
i was think the same thing, that yes there is problems but i was happy to be back on middle earth and i loved it. I too thought that going with a different perspective of peter is not necessarily a bad thing and your the first yt channel who shares a bit of the same view so thats a sub you got.
@WilfChadwick
@WilfChadwick 2 года назад
Communists/feminists/racists take over a franchise and make it unrecognizable to fan of said franchise, shocker!
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 Год назад
Communists? Really dude?
@WilfChadwick
@WilfChadwick Год назад
@@gunkulator1 yes, really. Ffs, go and read the communist manifesto. How can you not see the guidelines leading from "kill the proletariat" to "employment quotas" quite easily. If you have a friend or teacher that isn't a lefty, ask them to explain.
@norah8716
@norah8716 7 месяцев назад
You are too kind for this world, my lady....😒
@christianefiorito3204
@christianefiorito3204 7 месяцев назад
The worst of the rings of power show is the language. Whst did they made of poor Finrod.
@LeoAngora
@LeoAngora Год назад
I suspect you had some kind of drinking contest and had a sip of wine for every thing that you didn't like about the series. Looking forward to the full review!
@gdvvgdfv
@gdvvgdfv 5 месяцев назад
What is ur pet rats name?
@reranger21
@reranger21 7 месяцев назад
Coming back after almost a year, its nice to see such a chill and fair-minded perspective on this show! Critiques are valid but the vitriol is just absurd, and I hope over time folks can relax and enjoy it for what it is. I for one am looking forward to future seasons if they continue!
@vendettarules1
@vendettarules1 Год назад
I'm still crying .....
@chromes5567
@chromes5567 2 года назад
Really good review that showed both ups and downs. Bonus points for the rats. Excited to show my chinchilla the first 2 episode.
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire 2 года назад
I hope they enjoy it! My boys were somewhat ambivalent, alas
@luvcordonbln
@luvcordonbln 2 года назад
it is only allowed to cry at one piece when the ship burns down 😠
@LovePullups
@LovePullups 5 дней назад
I really hope that wizard is not gandalf
@danielpenney1455
@danielpenney1455 Год назад
Still waiting for a complete review of the series. It would be nice if it happened before the second season.
@Snagprophet
@Snagprophet 7 месяцев назад
Jess: "I'm gonna do more videos about Rings of Power in the coming weeks" 1+ years later ......
@bradthebard8824
@bradthebard8824 6 месяцев назад
@@SnagprophetI think it’s for the best 😂😂
@Snagprophet
@Snagprophet 6 месяцев назад
@@bradthebard8824 I mean she's done an objectively positive video about it, i.e. the costumes and design which people don't really have an issue with. Just a shame she just stopped talking about it, I mean if she said "man that sucked and it's fan fiction" then at least people would feel like they were on the same page.
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 6 месяцев назад
@@Snagprophetvideos take a long time to research, script, record, edit, etc. It’s hard making a video on a topic as controversial as this because you have to commit to the full process even if you don’t enjoy it and you’re not someone who likes confrontation. If I had to guess she probably just thought it wasn’t worth the time and effort
@cally77777
@cally77777 5 месяцев назад
@@offtheshelfET And it might have been because of the possible over-reaction of some people to even mildly positive comments.
@Jaszi007
@Jaszi007 2 года назад
6:36-6:40 You were complete correct for my feeling about it. Two of the main things being all the non sequitur lines of dialog and the once you look at any details of the armor realization that some of the underneath parts are just a shirt w/armor patterns. Good vid though👍
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire 2 года назад
Agreed. Some aspects of the design aren't quite as in depth as I'd like, especially when you compare it to the kind of detail they were able to achieve over the lengthy pre-production of Peter Jackson's films. And some of the dialogue very much feels like "trailer tagline" after "trailer tagline." Hopefully some of these issues will resolve themselves in later seasons. Thanks for watching!
@davidkulmaczewski4911
@davidkulmaczewski4911 Год назад
I'm a huge Tolkien fan, and your new video just popped in my feed. I checked your past videos to see your take on ROP, to decide whether or not your videos are worth watching. They're not.
@BlookbugIV
@BlookbugIV Год назад
I’m not sure if she even realised she was either damning it with faint praise or calling it shit. It’s telling she never wasted anyone’s time covering RoP again.
@whoknows4965
@whoknows4965 Год назад
@@BlookbugIV Exactly, she never talks about RoP in any videos beyond this, because the show sucked lol. If it was even decent at all there would absolutely be deep dives, discussions, studies, all sorts of content made about it.
@KevinArdala01
@KevinArdala01 Год назад
CGI aside, it's insultingly bad.
@melbclayman
@melbclayman 6 месяцев назад
I didn't cry but I think the producers shouldn't have front-loaded things the way they did and rather simply let things develop gradually. The rushing seems to me mostly about money, getting as much story in as possible. It's challenging enough to keep even a vague timeline together for events in the Second Age, so I sympathise with the struggle to make it work. The dialogue is pretty rubbish, no question. I suppose we'll see how Season 2 turns out.
@bulletprufrodo
@bulletprufrodo 4 месяца назад
Rats forever! The best pet! I love rats, such smart, loving animals.
@rogeliolarronda
@rogeliolarronda 5 дней назад
Drunk tears
@Peecamarke
@Peecamarke 4 месяца назад
loved your bravery in posting your honest perspective about Rings of Power and BOTH sides you liked and didn’t and also the emotional reaction. Sorry your vid got bombarded by rage commenters like many around the time did, with only a few legit back & fourth discussion but you got subscriber from after seeing this vid! I wasn’t a super fan of Rings of Power but wud watch another season and l DEFITNITELY didn’t have the vitriol for it like so many had, it’s those types made me apprehensive joining conversation on the Tolkien community but I know that’s just one side of it. Anywhoo, nice vid 👍🏿
@smoothbeak
@smoothbeak Год назад
It's absolute garbage.
@jmatos316
@jmatos316 2 месяца назад
I agree with Jess… they should have gone for something new
@PhattyBolger
@PhattyBolger 8 месяцев назад
Maybe you're crying because you're drunk.
@iannicholson5107
@iannicholson5107 6 месяцев назад
My neighbour who I have oddly known since she was nine and a charming woman kindly informed me of her imminent death. Unexpected. and shockiñg. Thank you for the joy you bting. A man should not be an unfortunate witness to incontinent death. You bring me joy in a difficult world and thank you for that. Joy and beauty is far too often zn unlikely companion. I wish you well as old hobbits should our remarkable Jesse's of pleasant, if undiscovered, shires. Travel well youngster. An old hobbit is grateful for such time and beauty as you most happily oresent. With best wishes.in difficult times.
@Leon-bc8hm
@Leon-bc8hm 6 месяцев назад
R.o.P should not have been made and it flopped. Still a new season is on its way. Disgusting. Especially that narcissistic dwarf women (the best thing ever in her own mind) and Guyladriel. 🤮🤮🤮🤮
@cally77777
@cally77777 5 месяцев назад
Well it hasn't flopped, many people watched it, and it was one of the most popular Amazon shows. Also it would not have been renewed if it flopped in the opinion of Amazon. I think we've heard that 'Guyladriel' joke quite a few times. You have problems with powerful women perhaps? Disa was one of the best characters as well.
@JoeyArmstrong2800
@JoeyArmstrong2800 6 месяцев назад
"Rings of Power" is exactly what I was worried Peter Jackson's LOTR would be.
@gregkelly8014
@gregkelly8014 2 года назад
No way you like the first two episodes and cried there is no story line. Nothing makes sense and Galadriel swam an ocean and lived she always looks pissed off. Every book where she is mentioned she displays joy and beauty, or sorrowful beauty not pissed off and distrust. There is no real dialog, and nothing is Tolkien, but I guess that explains name of part time Hobbit you missed it. The Cartoon the Hobbit that came out in the 70s I think was better than the Prime show which was very disappointing. I have read all Tolkien's books including unfinished tales multiple times and read them to me daughter. I am sorry I happened across your review. Maybe you should read more Tolkien then make another go of it.
@jezlawrence720
@jezlawrence720 5 месяцев назад
Came here to see what you thought of this cos I've still not watched it. Immediately distracted by RATTO
@imagomonkei
@imagomonkei 2 года назад
I've enjoyed the show so far. I've seen each episode twice. It's obviously not faithful to the lore, but I didn't expect it to be perfect.
@PlaceholderName-b4d
@PlaceholderName-b4d Месяц назад
I really don't like RoP. I don't hate it per say, but I don't like it, I don't enjoy it, a lot about it feels out of place. The writing is also so bad that it's hard to get immersed. As someone who has read all the books it just disappointed me. I feel like I owe Peter Jackson an apology for shitting on his The Hobbit movies, because those were better than whatever this was.
@PaulieFetz
@PaulieFetz 6 месяцев назад
I liked a few scenes, and appreciated the effort the entire production put into the series. AND, I love your positivity about it, and your hopeful mindset!
@JM-nd9zf
@JM-nd9zf 4 дня назад
I guess desecration of lore is okay as long as it's done by left-wing political ideologues using Tolkien's name and work as a vessel to promote their message. She'll continue to critique Peter Jackson's adaption's though, which were at least done in good faith.
@skomil
@skomil 2 года назад
A great review, I was reading the books, the Simarillion other Tokein stories back in the 80's, back then the only place I had seen his world on screen was the animated movie which covered till the Two Towers. There was a great BBC audiobook too. The Jackson movies are pretty awesome, but many again forget that they twisted, elongated and changed the original narrative, phenomenal movies, but there will never be a canon movie or a movie/TV show that resonates with every Tolkein fan. The first 2 episodes of Rings of Power missed some great opportunities, like detailing what the Valar/Maia are, the differences between elves and men, Iluvatar and showing just how horrific Morgoth was and maybe give some scale to the War of Wrath. However maybe some of that will come. The plot hasnt really started as yet and I have to say the show looks fantastic, it isnt a canon story, so I am just relaxing and enjoying and the teasers into Numenor in EP2 have me looking forward to episode 3.
@randomstuff403
@randomstuff403 2 года назад
Finally a reviewer that doesn't let perfect be the enemy of good. I'm a huge Tolkein fan and found the first two episodes to be fine. They were not great or mind blowing but they were thoroughly enjoyable. Your review pretty much put into words my own feeling about the show. Glad to see someone that isn't trashing it just because it didn't meet their expectations of perfection.
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind words! I think with any adaptation, its so important to temper your expectations. With most things, if you anticipate perfection, you'll be let down, especially with something as tricky as a TV adaptation of a beloved work. I'm glad to see other people felt the way that I did, and thanks again so much for the comment!
@SnakeWasRight
@SnakeWasRight 2 года назад
It's not good either.
@whoknows4965
@whoknows4965 Год назад
I mean this show isn't even average. You are implying it's just slightly below perfect lol? The show is literally trash.
@randomstuff403
@randomstuff403 Год назад
@@whoknows4965 So you dug up a 10 month post to attack a strawman. I never said or implied it was "slightly below" perfect. I just said it was "fine" and "enjoyable" neither of which mean's "slightly below perfect". Only an idiot would interpret either of those as meaning anything even close to perfect. The show was not "literally trash" as you put it. Go huddle back under your bridge troll.
@cptsteele91
@cptsteele91 7 месяцев назад
I dont think it's as good as it could have been, definitely has some issues which to be fair it's a TV show so that could just be season 1 teething issues, but I enjoyed it overall...die hard fans could probably be a bit less irritable and enjoy it on the same sort of level as something like Shadow of Mordor/War, they aren't half as hated, people speak generally more fondly of them, if you can bring yourself to enjoy a game that features Shelob as a big tiddy goth chick, then your issues with Rings of Power are probably not entirely lore related...
@markvogel4341
@markvogel4341 6 месяцев назад
I could not get into it. Loved PJ’s original series but his second series, not sure how to describe it, devolved like Star Wars devolved. Rings of Power began at what I felt was a very slow pace and I could not bond with the main characters so I never completed it. I have to admit, I never read the Silmarrilian (sp). But read The Hobbit and Lord of The Rings over several summers as a teenager. Tolkien was a great writer.
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 5 месяцев назад
Having watched all your videos from the beginning, this is the first one I a NOT upvoting. Also, growing a little disturbed by what appears to be intoxication while presenting parts of some videos.
@ianwalker3144
@ianwalker3144 8 месяцев назад
I appreciate your perspective and willingness to forgive in favor of story being told, BUT... 'nuff said. Love you, Jess!
@godkingemperor9782
@godkingemperor9782 2 года назад
I couldn't stand it it was lore breaking and way to woke for my taste. they even made the most noble honorable elf character Galadriel into a Karen!!
@jonathanstewart351
@jonathanstewart351 2 года назад
Well, it isn't Tolkien, but when you get over that it's really pretty bad. Pretentious. Silly. Stupid. The writers saw the movies (?) but apparently never read the books for inspiration. It might not seem so bad if it wasn't trying to pretend it's Tolkien. If it was called something else with characters named Bill and Jack and Andria it might be almost good. Big congrats to the visualizers, art director(s), and composer however. Just try to think of it as a badly conceived amateur kid's story from the 1950s with a big, big, big budget.
@gregkelly8014
@gregkelly8014 2 года назад
I agree they should have just called it something else maybe tales of Middle Earth that would have been more believable
@mustplay7212
@mustplay7212 Год назад
I have to be honest , Galadriel is written poorly imo. She was never meant to be that mad warrior that we sometimes see. If her name wasnt Galadriel, then I would be fine with it. But it isnt fitting her character at all. That was a huge turning point for me cuz i enjoyed parts of it. But the costumes were a bit poor imo, especially the Numenorean ones. I didnt mind Miriel, but changing Galadriel to an almost female version of Sauron wasnt a good move. The orcs looks pretty dope, ngl, the dwarves as well. The elves looked silly but not more silly than in the Hobbit movies (which is the most horrific movies i ever watched due to its overuse of CGI haha). Sorry the negative rant here, i just didnt like that one change they did. I dont mind having women characters like that but not when you have Galadriel, an already OP elf, to become more warlike. Usually, in tolkiens world, when characters are like that (driven by revenge) they usually die. Anyway i dont hate on the show, but that one thing rly annoyed me. If people want to make a female version feanor, then i am all in. But at least make it like arondir (which was a character i liked and adar). Sometimes you dont have to use every original characters either.
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 Год назад
There are old soldiers and there are bold soldiers, but there are no old, bold soldiers. As you point out, Tolkien's characters who live by the sword usually end up dying by the sword. The whole point of Galadriel was that she was the wisest of the Elves precisely because she did not engage in all the wars and fighting of the First Age since she understood that it was hopeless. Neither elves nor dwarves nor humans nor any combination of these was ever going to defeat Morgoth. She was right. Portraying her as a reckless warrior obsessed with Sauron is diametrically opposed to everything Tolkien wrote about her.
@macanimation2793
@macanimation2793 5 месяцев назад
Its nice to see another long time Tolkien fan who actually gave the show a chance instead of hating from the moment it was announced (seriously i find it absurd that so many people just decided it would be terrible before we got anything aside from the knowledge that it was happening). Considering that many parts of the lore that were changed/omitted were often reasonable due to the nature of adaptations, it wasn’t horrible. Well, not from the lore standpoint that everyone seemed to think anyway. I just assumed it wasn’t going to be perfect and it was decent and at some points it was even good! For instance the red herrings throughout the series, they worked well and the fact that we no longer knew who sauron was worked as a good way to spread doubt about who we should trust or allow ourselves to like in the show. Plus there was the whole thing with the harfoots, which, while it may not be part of the original lore, has potential and most importantly doesn’t effect nor counteract anything important that im aware of. To add to it, the ‘stranger’ is a character that im pretty certain is a massive red herring, one that tricked many people into thinking he is gandalf. But There are so many small hints that, if you actually finish the show, point to the idea that he may be one of the two blue istari, for instance it is written somewhere (i can’t remember where) that the blue wizards controlled the weather, and the stranger seems to use the wind as his weapon/tool. Edit: god that was long… I would like to thank my adhd and autism for the inability to stop writing something or go without thoroughly explaining anything for more than a couple of minutes. Also, this is just my opinion and the opinion of a number of tolkien fans that I have spoken to or been acquainted with in the last few years. I just wanted to show that not everyone hated it or didnt even give it more than a couple of episodes before deciding that it was all terrible.
@tyguy477
@tyguy477 4 месяца назад
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