I think the problem is not the Uyghur ethnicity itself. The problem is Islam. Most of the people who follow Islam are not evil, but unfortunately the religion itself is evil.
Absolutely love that you have pronounced uyghur differently literally every time you said it. Idk how to pronounce it either. Lol. But this was a great video, very informative.
You certainly are impressively productive lately, Emre. It's nice to see how consistent you are with videos and new content the past few weeks. I hope your inner drive and motivation will burn long enough to carry you to a point where you can sustain your efforts through profits you make through your work. Once you get the ball rolling, I am sure you can make it happen.
A huge thanks for all the work done by the translators (if they happen to exist so far): the french translation is relevant, subtle and therefore accurate on all the points. Je vous salue de mon chapeau le plus bas: cette traduction est fidèle et sincère, un grand merci :)
Nice clip, but there are some important notes: First: Cities appeared in the eastern steppes before the era of the Uyghur Khaganate. Where archaeologists discovered traces of ancient cities in the eastern steppes and southern Siberia dating back to the era of the Xiongnu Empire. Chinese records mention the existence of cities of the late Xiongnu kingdoms. Some cities of the Rouran Kingdom were located in the steppe. There are also cities in the era of Gokturk, where, for example, ancient Chinese records mention that Khaqan Gokturk, Qimin kaghan, built two cities for him. In addition, the western Gokturk had capitals in Central Asia, such as Suyab, and an interest in building cities, palaces, and luxury. Also, the Orkhon inscriptions and Chinese records mention the existence of Toquz Oghuz cities in the eastern steppe with paved roads and post stations in the Göktürk era. The roots of the Uygurs go back to the Tiele Confederation, which established a kingdom in the north of the Tarim Basin in the fifth century AD, and some of its tribes formed an essential part of the Tabgach confederation in the Northern Wei dynasty. The advice of the wise tonyukuk should not be taken literally away from the historical context and the general situation in that era and what was stated in historical records and archaeological studies. It can be said that the era of the Gokturk Khaganate in the steppes was a Khaganate of half a city and half a tribe, while in the era of the Uighur Khaganate, the Khaganate turned into a city Khaganate, so that it depended entirely on the city and the expansion of the Uygurs in building many cities. Second: The Uygur Khaganate built cities before embracing the Manichean religion, and the new religion did not constitute any prior motive for the Uygurs to expand in the construction of cities. The second Khagan Bayanchur built the great city of Ordu-Baliq and other cities in the steppe in 750, while the Bogu Khagan embraced Manichaeism in 762 and later made Manichaeism the official religion of the Uyghur Khaganate. Third: The Uyghur Khaganate did not abandon the Turkish traditions, as the Uyghur religion was a mixture between Tengri and Manichean, and they continued to use the runic alphabet throughout the era of the Khaganate, as proven in archaeological discoveries. The Uighur khagan used a large yurt whose dome and columns were made of pure gold outside the walls of the capital. Also, the Uighurs are not the first Turks to open up to foreign religions, as Khaqan Gokturk Taspar converted to Buddhism and ordered the construction of Buddhist temples and the translation of Buddhist sutras into Turkish in the year 575. And some of the eastern and western Gokturk kings were on the Buddhist religion. Fourth: The relationship between Gokturk and the Chinese kingdoms was not a relationship of permanent conflict, but rather a complex and intertwined relationship. In terms of cultural exchange, trade exchange, military aid, access to experts, craftsmen, workers, soldiers, weapons, and so on. And the Chinese records mentioned that the Gokturks were familiar with and acquainted with Chinese medicine and used it among themselves, and they were also familiar with Chinese literature in politics and others. For example, there are ten thousand Turkish families settled in the historical Chinese capital in the medieval era, Chang'an, in the year 630, and this is a very large number even by the standards of our time. Also, there are Turkish tribes that settled in northern China and practiced agriculture and lived in cities and the like, and many of them remained preserving their customs and traditions. The Ishbara Khagan of Göktürk sought help from the Sui dynasty during the civil war. Of course, the Uyghur Khaganate's relationship with the Tang Dynasty was not always friendly and witnessed intermittent conflict situations. Fifth: Göktürk relied on the Sogdians in matters of trade, international relations, and others. The Uyghur Khaganate was based on previous data that existed in the Gokturk era, and they were able to develop it better. Sixth: After the collapse of the Uyghur Khaganate in 840 due to the attacks of the Kyrgyz Yenisei people. The Uighurs migrated in three groups, according to the intermediate historical sources: A section that migrated to the province of Gansu and took control of it and managed to establish a kingdom that lasted for more than two centuries. A section that migrated to the east in the steppes and united with the Khitan people until Chinese records mention that "half of the Khitan are from the Uighurs" and contributed greatly to the establishment of the Khitan Liao Kingdom, which ruled northern China and the eastern steppes for about two centuries. And A section that migrated to the north of the Tarim Basin and given that the Uighur Khaganate had previously controlled the areas north of the Tarim Basin and they had an intense Turkish population presence in the region and also had a well-known city mentioned in the Orkhon inscriptions, which is Beshbalik, so that the Uighurs were able to quite easily and smoothly establish the Kingdom of Qocho Which lasted for a long time, about five hundred years. Currently, the people of East Turkistan, and they are the Uyghur people, were formed as a result of the union and mixing of several Turkic tribes within one national identity, and they are the Uighurs, the Qarluqs, the Yagma, the Basmals, the Chagatai, the Huns, and others.
Your words have no basis in truth. First: The Uyghur Khaganate entered into conflict with the Tang Empire several times. The Uygurs forced the Tang Emperor to pay tribute to them. Second: The Uighurs took control of Gansu province by military force and took it from Tang. Third: The struggle between Toquz Oghuz and Ashina was a struggle for power only. The Uygurs have recognized in their inscriptions that they represent an extension of the Ashina dynasty. Fourth: The lands of the eastern steppes and the Tarim Basin do not belong to China at all, and this is a firm and definitive fact. And also the lands of Tibet, Qinghai, Manchuria, as well as Gansu are lands that are not Chinese. China's historical land lies between the Yellow River and the Yangtze River. Expansions of the Empire of China into the Tarim Basin occurred only three times, Han Dynasty era, Tang Dynasty era and Qing Manchurian Dynasty era. Fifth: The Turkish dynasties continued to control the Tarim Basin for more than two thousand years. During the eras of the Xiongnu, Tiele, Huns, Gokturks, Uighurs, Qocho, Karakhanids, Chagatai, and others. Chinese records say of the Khaghan Tong Yabghu: "Tong Yehu Kaghan is a man of bravery and astuteness. He is good at art of war. Thus he controlled Tiele tribes to the north, confronted Persia to the west, connected with Kasmira (nowadays Kashmir) to the south. All countries are subject to him. He controlled ten thousands of men with arrow and bow, establishing his power over the western region. He occupied the land of Wusun and moved his tent to Qianquan north of Tashkent". Sixth: It is a grave mistake to analyze ancient history based on the data of the present time. China's current strength will not last forever. And remember that the northern dynasties ruled China dozens of times. Even the Shang Dynasty, which is the most important ancient dynasty, was of northern origin. Northern Wei Tabghach Dynasty, Liao Khitan Dynasty, Genghis Khan Dynasty, Qing Manchurian Dynasty, etc. Remember the An Lushan Revolt, which destroyed the Tang Dynasty from within.
@@Reader_curiosity hahahaha so delusional. 1000 years later you turks will make up stories that today's China paid tribute to the uyghurs 😂. If it wasn't for the Tang's AnShi rebellion the turks would never have been independent
@@tianlingchen5523 Lmfao, we are talking about the true history here dear buddy, stop reading your (Baike quanshu) which only works behind the great wall your living at, of course, your book doesn't mension how you guys sent the best-looking princesses back in the days to beg so-called (slaves) to give you guys a couple more days of daylight.
@@Reader_curiositydude I don’t have much to say about anything other then the Tarim basin was controlled by indo Aryan people who spoke an indo European language those people are the tocharians they were described as having red hair and blue eyes they controlled the Tarim basin for a long time the Uyghurs kicked them out by the time of manzikurt and they have basically died out by the time of the boxer rebellion make sure to fact check what I said Turkic history is interesting and also Scythian history is cool tocharians were Scythian as well as the sogdians but the sogdians spoke a indo Aryan language and the tocharians spoke an indo European language
Interesting! My people intermarried with Turkic tribes for thousands of years and we still do today. Mongolia welcomes any Turk. We also have lots of Indian and Russian who make business with us like the old days.
Turks and Mongols are a people who have lived and mixed together for thousands of years. Therefore, I am a Turk and also a Mongol. Every Turk thinks this way.
I’m from Uzbekistan, I’m mix person, almost All Turkic nations in my blood, I got Uzbek/Tatar/Uighur. We are Turkic people and from same nation. Love you Uighurs! ✊🏻
The relations between Uyghurs and the Chinese were not different from any previous Turkic empires. During the Uyghur rule, the Chinese Tang dynasty was weakened by internal power struggles, incapable rules, and most importantly by the An Lu Shan rebellion, and did not have the power to repel attacks by the Uyghurs so they took appeasement policies. Hence there was not much fighting between Uyghurs and the Tang for some time, and Tang had to pay annual tribute to Uyghurs. But still they were not "friends", and Tang had plots to weaken and destroy Uyghurs which they succeeded in due to famine and using the Kirgizs
@@licheong Yes, you just made my points much clearer and I could not agree with you more mate! The video maker is clearly not very knowledgeable in Uyghur or Chinese history, although the visuals are good.
@@licheong No, Tang dynasty's emperor's mother-side of its blood line is not from Turkic tribes. It's Xianbei. It was a sinicized proto-mongolic tribe from Northeast China. BTW I am Chinese. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Taimu
@einsamaberfrei After An Lushan, the Tang Dynasty continued to maintain its military superiority over the Uygur region. From 763 to 779, Guo Ziyi cooperated with Hunhun to defeat Tubo for countless times, and Hunhun also defeated the Uighur army in Taiyuan in 768 and 775.
Bir kaç videoda Türkçe altyazı yok. Sizden altyazı talep ediyorum. Bakış açınızı merak ettiğim için, bir çok videonuzu izleyeceğim. Şu ana kadar, “tebrik ederim” diyebilirim.
Awesome channel and video, however the pronunciation of Turkic words are so off that I just can't overlook it. It bothers me. I hope that will be emphasized in future videos.
What about the Tocharians? I thought the assimilation of the people of the tarim basin played an important role in the forming of the later/modern Uyghur identity?
They replaced them, due to good relations with the Chinese and led the arshi-kuchi tongue to desappear. It turned badly the last decades as everybody knows.
Was there a contest to catch the many ways you pronounced the word Uighur. I think I detected 5 distinct ways? Good documentary though. Excellent. Detailed.
Under An Lushan, the Uyghurs took advantage of and destroyed the main army of the Tang Empire. The author is wrong. 150,000 nomads from the Turkic Mongols served china. Uyghuria destroyed the army that china wanted to use to conquer all of Asia. There may have been political mistakes, but Uyguria saved the world from chinese aggression! The author forgets that china has always been a threat and the Uyghurs understood this
Yury Zuev proposed that the term Jalair (~ Yyalair) could be the Mongolian version of the Turkic name for the dynastic tribe of the Uyghur Khaganate (758-843): Yaglakar clan ~ yağla er ('anointed sovereign', Turkic ya:ğ il). Yaglakar (Ch. 藥羅葛/药罗葛 Yaoluoge) of the Tiele-Uyghur Toquz Oghuz confederacy.
@@ganbatganbold3428 The Jalair Possibly of the Turkic ancestry, this group of people were captured by the Timuchin's clan and became vassals. In early days, this group of people raided the pasture of rich Mongol woman, Monolun (wife of the grandson of Bodunchar), and killed her and her eight sons. Only Kaidu was saved by his uncle Nachin and later Kaidu defeated the Jalair to be a leader of the early Mongol people. The Jalairs became very much attached to the Mongol people in the ensuing years. Later, they became vassals and got assimilated Muhuali or Mukali was said to be one of them. The Jalairs were said to be of the Darligin Mengwu tribe and fled west to the Kerulen River after being attacked by the Khitans. Alternatively speaking, Jalair (Zha-la-yi-er) was listed together with Zu-bu and Zhu-bu- gu, i.e., Dadan equivalent, in Liao Shi (history of the Khitan Liao dynasty), which were considered a Huihe (Uygur) tribal alliance since the days the Huihe expelled the Kirghiz from the Orkhon River and Tu'ula River area and rebelled against the Khitans throughout the 10th-11th centuries, with Mo-gu-si Khan launching a Zu-bu dynasty in A.D. 1100 in defiance of the Khitans. That is, the Jalair shared the same ancestry as the Keraits who possessed a Nestorian Mo-gu-si (Marcus in Ecclesiastical Chronicle) - who was a different person from Kerait chieftain Wang-han (Toghrul)'s grandfather Margus Buiruk per Historian Zhou Liangxiao for the generations' lapse.
Love the episode, particularly glad to find this new resource on Turkic and by greater extension, greater Asian history. I must, however, confess that I've been sitting here in silence for about 30 minutes now, mulling over the final statement in this video. Let me say I appreciate and highly respect the admission of personal bias. No historian or history is without it, it shows impeccable responsibility to clearly state what biases you have that may color your analysis of the given subject. I do not think it is my place to challenge your opinion, either, I just found it perturbing. Why does the (apparent) decision of a linguistically Turkic polity to not recognize the Ashina family as the great uniters and founders of a nationalized Turkic identity leave a bad taste in your mouth? Does this ancient policy color your opinion of modern Uyghers? Do you believe it is the responsibility of any linguistically, culturally and regionally similar peoples to all agree on the same charismatic leader and homogenize a nation around them? Or do you believe that had the Uyghers aligned in policy with the Gokturk empire in general, but specifically recognized the Ashina as their overlords, that the Gokturk empire would have held together in its entirety for more than a generation or so? Or perhaps conquer China? What is the alternative you speculate that would have been easier to digest? Please believe I hold no judgment for whatever your answers to these questions are, nor whether you share them with me or not. These are merely the most cogent and cogitate questions the final admission of this video provoked. Keep up the great work!
The Uighurs conquered the great people , occulted, talked, instilled a language , taught metallurgy and crafts They created and organized the KHAGANATES of the EMPIRE
Very good video, I also understand that modern Turks have to look for a great ancestor. But there are some issues to consider. 1 There are 56 ethnic groups in China. Similarly, there are many nomadic peoples living on the vast Mongolian plateau. It is ridiculous to think that all 56 ethnic groups in China are Han, or that all nomads (tribes) in the grasslands of northern China are Huns and Turks. 2 As the only historical recorder of the northern nomads, China has detailed records for each nomad. Because all the nomads engaged in massive wars with the Han. Each nomad has a large number of captives to interrogate. So the accuracy of history books is very high. A total of 5,340 wars and civil wars occurred between the Han nationality and various ethnic groups. The Uighur is the sworn enemy of the Turks and the predecessor of the Khitan. 3. The real Turks are the yellow race. According to the historical records of the Han nationality, the Turkic Khan refused to give a high official to the tribal leader because he looked like a Huren (caucasian). 4. Finding one's own ancestors requires a foundation. And use genetics effectively. Genetic tests show that 90% are Eastern Roman Greeks and Armenians who were conquered by the Pseudo-Turks. 5 English-speaking Filipinos, Indians and East Africans are not British. Likewise, speaking Turkic (the lingua franca of the steppe) is not Turkic. The 56 ethnic groups who speak Chinese are not Han. 6 The Turks and Huns were among a dozen powerful nomadic peoples who disappeared on the bloody Mongolian steppes, and they were all losers in the northern steppes. The victors in the northern Mongolian grasslands were the Mongols and the Xianbei (fishing and hunting peoples). 7 The Tocharians in Xinjiang are Persians from the Iranian plateau. They speak Old Persian and come from the Indus Valley. After 840 AD, some Uyghurs took control of Tarim, and the Tocharian language gradually disappeared. 8 Chinese history books have continuously recorded the history of nomads in the northern grasslands for 3,000 years, reflecting the actual situation at that time. is the only reference definition. It cannot be deliberately bent or artistic. 9 The conquest of the Eastern Romans in Anatolia by the Pseudo-Turks (Turkic-speaking tribes) was exactly the same in nature as the conquest of China by the Manchurians in 1644. A small number of nomads took over the populated areas. Anatolians (modern-day Turkey) say they are Turks from northern China, just as absurd as Han people say they come from the northern grasslands.
Well said, this explanation is helpful for those who are clueless. Somethings are not revealed to the entire world, deeper understanding on a certain topic which barely being brought up is a difficult task. This explanation provided logical and valid sources and details.
@@BBarNavi 56 ethnic groups ... ever since the Ching dynasty ... which expanded China's territory to include "Manchuria", Inner Mongolia, Tibet and Xinjiang ... Taiwan already part of China since Ming dynasty.
In certain languages, expressions of uncertainty are integrated when discussing historical events. For instance, Turkic languages use 'MISH' to denote uncertainty, while in Chinese, phrases like 'According to records' or 'as written' introduce a sense of reliance on historical documentation. In contrast, English often presents historical narratives with a more immediate and direct style, although qualifiers such as 'according to historical records' are used to acknowledge uncertainty. The variations in linguistic approaches offer insights into how different cultures perceive and communicate the complexities of history
@@tianlingchen5523 According to the 2021 Turkish DNA Project (a DNA testing project for Turks), 55% of Turks are of Anatolian indigenous descent, that is, of ancient Greek descent. 15% are of GokTurkic descent, 13.8% are of Balkan descent, another 7% are of Armenian descent; 6.4% are of Iranian descent; 3.6% are of Georgian descent，They are Turkified Greeks
Apart from the fact that no Greek dna has been found in western Anatolia and that the Asian Turkish dna is 30%-40% in Anatolia, the only thing I am curious about is why you are sharing false information in meaningless posts, dear friend?@@inneisoc5138
@@inneisoc5138 They are not Greeks, Turks are descendants of native Anatolian peoples. Greeks in Anatolia were the Hellenized Anatolians. For example, the Pontic Greeks were originally Laz and Georgian people.
For everyone's information, the original Uyghur Empire was buddhist. It was islam that destroyed it and completely transformed the original identity of the Uyghur people
Islam destroyed it later. Firstly, Karakhanids than Hizr Hodja and Mansur Khan. But initially, Uyghurs were manicheans, buddhists live mainly in Hotan and Gansu regions. Later buddhism became spreading widely but along with nestorian christianity in Turfan region and nowadays Kyrgyzstan. We have a huge amount of archeological and historical materials about Uyghur christianity. But islamic war rides devastate all the buddhist and nestorian legacy. Funny, that uyghurs in late XIX century thought that ruins of buddhist dazan's in their lands belong to dzhungars but not to their ancestors. That's very sad about cleansing peoples memory.
This empire has disappeared 1200 years ago. The turcophone people were the nomad in central Asia, they have no a fix place, so we cannot determine their territory. Turquie territory in 1500 years ago was not their land.
Hzars are new ethnic groups formed in 16 centry and came out as a mix of iranians and mongols and speak iranian dialect , where Uighurs are turks speak Uighur-turk language and ancient nation
Bashkirs is spelled wrong. Please refer to the real historical documents when drawing maps, not Russian sources with wrong naming of the native peoples.
According to the 2021 Turkish DNA Project (a DNA testing project for Turks), 55% of Turks are of Anatolian indigenous descent, that is, of ancient Greek descent. 15% are of GokTurkic descent, 13.8% are of Balkan descent, another 7% are of Armenian descent; 6.4% are of Iranian descent; 3.6% are of Georgian descent，They are Turkified Greeks
@@HaveRightTobeanonimus According to the 2021 Turkish DNA Project (a DNA testing project for Turks)The projects were paid for by Turkey, Project signed by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
@@HaveRightTobeanonimus Glory of Turkey ...... For the Turks all the ancient great empires of central Asia are their ancestors Lol. DNA results broke the hearts of many Turks
@@alexhu5491 You mean many of Anatolian Turks 🙂. They also have a great ancestors anyway. Greeks had also very interesting history 🙂.So, ALL Turks must be proud of ALL their ancestors. Actually we all have to be proud: if only we think about all wars, plagues or other epidemics taken place in the history.... And all these our ancestors did survive...The fact that we are still here today.... It's a miracle on its own bro.
Uyghur means allied arrows. Guess whom do they ally with? Chinese from their begining. Uyghur Khakhans and princes call themselves nephews of Chinese emperor, by their mother of Chinese imperial princesses..
man, I think you are faking history here. One of obvious mistakes is that the ruling empire of China is not Yang but Li, you even don’t know their family name. Yang is a like a prime minister of Tang Dynasty back then, not the emperor. Uyghurs are not even Turkish people, and current Turkish people not even the same Turk people in the Tang Dynasty. Turkish tribes are mixed of many different ethnic, most of them are Mongolia people like Chinese and Mongolians. They are many old mural from Tang dynasty indicated that. Also, Uyghurs hate Turks back then. You are basically asking why Koreans doesn’t help Japanese to attack Americans. In addition, although An Lushan himself is a minority, his supporters are basically the land lords and rich families from the Hebei provinces, in other words, Han Chinese. Tang Dynasty was kind like American, the leader of a political group does not mean he have to represent his race.
If you don't know the difference between Turkic and Turkish, and seriously believe that Turkic peoples would have been Mongol or Chinese, then we can't help you.
@@KhansDen Turkic people are closer to Mongolia people than Turkish in Turkey, that’s what I am talk about. Because Turkish people always say they are Turkic people, actually they are not. Uyghurs are not Turkic also, they were only ruled by them for a few years, Chinese and Koreans are probably more closer than Turkic and Uyghurs. I respect your efforts to make this video, it is definitely hard, but there are many obvious errors in this video. But again, I am not your target audience, so my opinion does not matter anyway.
@@kafka310 the current Turkish in Turkey is, the original Turks are not. Honestly, Turkish is not really Turks, people in middle Asia are probably descendants of Turks.
@@mrj428 I understand what you mean, the Turks and the Turks are different，“Turkic” “Turkey”，I'm not a native English speaker, so my expression may be a little different, sorry
So, if you prefer strangers over your own brethren, you eventually will get enslaved by those strangers. Like what happened for Turks in many countries.
The Uyghurs arrived in GaoChang some time around the 8 th Century after having passed 200 years exploring and approaching Western Gansu and Eastern Xin Jiang desert...
Uyghurs lived in The Gansu region for almost 200 years before the Uyghurs moved West to GaoChang to create a New Settlement still following the Boudhist faith in GaoChang.. ..the Uyghurs were Boudhist in Gansu..the Uyghurs were also Boudhist in GaoChang
The Uygur Empire started already after the flood... it was from Siberia to Europe. - Jack Churchward - The Stone Amulets of Mu - Jack Churchward - The Children of Mu
The Jalair Possibly of the Turkic ancestry, this group of people were captured by the Timuchin's clan and became vassals. In early days, this group of people raided the pasture of rich Mongol woman, Monolun (wife of the grandson of Bodunchar), and killed her and her eight sons. Only Kaidu was saved by his uncle Nachin and later Kaidu defeated the Jalair to be a leader of the early Mongol people. The Jalairs became very much attached to the Mongol people in the ensuing years. Later, they became vassals and got assimilated Muhuali or Mukali was said to be one of them. The Jalairs were said to be of the Darligin Mengwu tribe and fled west to the Kerulen River after being attacked by the Khitans. Alternatively speaking, Jalair (Zha-la-yi-er) was listed together with Zu-bu and Zhu-bu- gu, i.e., Dadan equivalent, in Liao Shi (history of the Khitan Liao dynasty), which were considered a Huihe (Uygur) tribal alliance since the days the Huihe expelled the Kirghiz from the Orkhon River and Tu'ula River area and rebelled against the Khitans throughout the 10th-11th centuries, with Mo-gu-si Khan launching a Zu-bu dynasty in A.D. 1100 in defiance of the Khitans. That is, the Jalair shared the same ancestry as the Keraits who possessed a Nestorian Mo-gu-si (Marcus in Ecclesiastical Chronicle) - who was a different person from Kerait chieftain Wang-han (Toghrul)'s grandfather Margus Buiruk per Historian Zhou Liangxiao for the generations' lapse.
Uighurs and Khazars are sharing common points, like flexibility towards other cultures and religious disputes before chosing one. It appears that this inclination was practised by the Huns before them, especially in central Asia and India, unlike the Turks.
@onurberkay13 Uighurs are not Turks. The ancestors of Uighurs are Uighurs, the ancestors of Uighurs are Tiele, the ancestors of Tiele are Ding Ling, and the ancestors of Ding Ling are Di Ren. Uighurs only worked as slaves and attachments of Turks first, and then they perished several regimes of Turkic.
Among the nomadic people in northern China, Xiongnu, Rouran and Mongolia are close relatives; Khitan, Uighur, Uygur are close relatives; Xianbei, Jurchen and Manchu are close relatives.
"The Uyghurs deserve their place in Turk history, but some of their decisions surely led a bitter taste in mouth of our producer." Could someone explain what is meaning of this, ( last part)? Thanks.
wow.. that is like science fiction, empires and conquerors of Asia, more complicated and treacherous perhaps than handed down. A Western European based historical education may have niche corners, but it this so unfamiliar.
Автор запутал всех. Во всех стеллах написано Тогуз Огуз. Это государство Тогуз Огузов. Правитель Моюн Чур. 744 г. В китайских источниках пишут Гелей кехан-Керей каган. Первопредок казахских керей Мойын [шежире керей]. В Худуд Аль Алам тоже на карте Тогуз Огуз. После распада образовались Керейское ханство и найманское ханство. А это Значит, что все Уйгуры вышли из племени керей. Иначе это никак не обьяснить.
Why the presenter said the KIRGYZ attacked the Uyghurs in Mongolia in Around years 800 ...??? ..the Uyghurs demanded permission to settle in the Yellow river in Gansu around year 600 from the TANG emperor...as the Uyghurs were fleeing from Mongolia...so the Boudhist Uyghurs from Mongolia left Mongolia earlier than the year 800 ...200 years before the year 800 .
today's Turkey has not much to do with the Goktürks, this are more Greek descendant's or from other states, Turkmenistan, Usbekistan, Kasachstan and others are the real Turkish folks
The Anatolian region has never been a region inhabited by a Greek population at any time in history, except for some coastal colonies. Ignorant people like you never learned this. Greek language spread throughout Anatolia, especially with the beginning of eastern Rome to use Greek language as the state language and the church language. Today's Anatolian Turkish population consists of a mixture of the Turkic population in Central Asia and the ancient natives of Anatolia.
@@mert5817 my friend, I have no dog in the Greek Turkey controversy but that’s simply not true, those Greek “colonies” on the coasts of Anatolia (coast or inland, still in Anatolia my friend) were well established cities, major ports etc, the Greeks did move inland somewhat as well, not far though but to regard it otherwise is either blind ignorance or blind nationalism, despite the issues of the last century. The Greeks had more then just language and culture spread through many places, including the people themselves in Anatolia.
@@cjthebeeskneesI didn't say anything different about cultural influence. But declaring the indigenous people of Anatolia, who are ethnically a mixture of Anatolian peoples such as Hatti, Hittite, Phrygian and Lydia, as Greek, absurdity of extreme Greek nationalists. Don't tell me the bullshit of the greek fascists as historical reality.
Later Mongol prince Chagatai controlled all Uyghurs in Northern Xin Jiang... Uyghurs migrated into Southern Xin Jiang later during the Chagatai control
@@Darkturkss1501 Afşarları niye çıkarın diyorsun? Azerbaycan tarihinden?Afşarları çıkaramazsın niye çünki Azerbaycan halkının en az yarısını Afşarlar oluşturuyor!? Fazlası bile olabilir?
The biggest mistake (ironically also the most praised aspect) of the Uyghurs was their sedentarism. Sedentarism does not work in the steppe, there's a reason why all steppe peoples are nomadic in the first place.
Debatable. Farming in the oasis is more stable I think, but it doesn't promote the growth of the society there, farmland being limited. No empire ever came out of Xinjiang. 'Roaming the wilderness' is a much more free and sovereign life, with the potential for your society to grow massively, even if the climate and conditions are unstable. If the climate and social conditions are right, you have near endless grassland to grow and multiply your herds and thus your people, becoming rich and powerful, expanding and subjugating other nomadic and sedentary societies.@@piscator2813
nutulaul5 5 Palve põhjatus hädas 1 Mõtle, Issand, sellele, mis on meiega juhtunud, vaata ja näe meie teotust! 2 Meie pärisosa on läinud võõraste, meie kojad muulaste kätte. 3 Me oleme jäänud orbudeks, isatuiks, meie emad on lesed. 4 Vett me joome raha eest, puid me saame ostes. 5 Jälitajad on meil kaela peal, me väsime, meile ei anta asu. 6 Egiptusele ja Assurile me andsime käe, et saada kõhutäit leiba. 7 Meie vanemad tegid pattu: neid ei ole enam. Meie kanname nende süüd. 8 Orjad valitsevad meie üle, ei ole nende käest lahtikiskujat. 9 Elu ohustades toome enestele leiba, sest kõrbes on mõõk. 10 Meie nahk hõõgub nagu ahi näljakõrvetuste pärast. 11 Siionis on naised raisatud ja Juuda linnades neitsid. 12 Vürstid on poodud nende käe läbi, vanade vastu ei ole olnud austust. 13 Noored mehed peavad ajama käsikivi ja poisid komistavad puukoorma all. 14 Vanemad on kadunud väravast, noorukid pillimängude juurest. 15 On lõppenud meie südame rõõm, meie tants on muutunud leinaks. 16 Kroon on langenud meie peast. Häda meile, et oleme pattu teinud! 17 Seepärast on meie süda haige, nende asjade pärast on meie silmad jäänud pimedaks, 18 Siioni mäe pärast, mis on nii laastatud, et seal luusivad rebased. 19 Sina, Issand, valitsed igavesti, sinu aujärg jääb põlvest põlve. 20 Mispärast sa tahad meid unustada alatiseks, meid maha jätta pikaks ajaks? 21 Too meid, Issand, tagasi enese juurde, siis me pöördume! Uuenda meie päevi nagu muiste! 22 Või oled sa meid tõuganud hoopis ära, vihastunud meie peale üliväga? 1 Nägemus Issanda auhiilgusest 1 „Kolmekümnendal aastal, neljanda kuu viiendal päeval, kui ma olin vangide seas Kebari jõe ääres, sündis, et taevad avanesid ja ma nägin Jumala nägemusi.” 2 Kuu viiendal päeval, kuningas Joojakini vangiviimise viiendal aastal+ 3 tuli Issanda sõna preester Hesekielile, Buusi pojale, kaldealaste maal Kebari jõe ääres; ja Issanda käsi tuli seal tema peale. 4 „Ja ma vaatasin, ja ennäe, põhja poolt tuli marutuul suure pilve ja lõõmava tulega. Ja pilve ümber oli kuma, ja keskelt, tule keskelt, paistis otsekui hiilgav metall. 5 Ja keset seda paistis midagi, mis koosnes neljast olevusest. Nende välimus oli niisugune: nad olid inimese sarnased, 6 aga igaühel oli neli nägu ja igaühel oli neli tiiba. 7 Nende jalad olid sirged ja nende labajalad olid nagu vasika sõrad. Ja nad hiilgasid nagu läikiv vask. 8 Neil olid inimese käed tiibade all, neljas küljes; ja neil neljal olid oma näod ja oma tiivad. 9 Nende tiivad puudutasid üksteist. Liikudes nad ei pöördunud, igaüks läks otse edasi. 10 Ja nende näod olid niisugused: esiküljel inimese nägu, neliku paremal küljel lõvi nägu, neliku vasakul küljel härja nägu ja neliku tagaküljel kotka nägu. 11 Niisugused olid nende näod. Ja nende tiivad olid laiali laotatud ülespoole; igaühel oli kaks tiiba vastastikuseks puudutamiseks ja kaks tiiba katsid nende ihu. 12 Nad liikusid igaüks otse edasi: kuhu vaim iganes tahtis minna, sinna nad läksid, liikudes nad ei pöördunud. 13 Ja olevuste vahel oli näha otsekui tuliseid süsi, mis põlesid tõrvikute sarnaselt, liikudes olevuste vahel sinna-tänna; ja tulel oli kuma ning tulest tuli välja välk. 14 Ja olevused jooksid sinna-tänna, otsekui lööks välku. 15 Siis ma vaatasin olevusi, ja ennäe, olevuste kõrval, igas neljas esiküljes, oli maas üks ratas. 16 Rataste välimus ja nende tegumood: need helkisid nagu krüsoliit ja kõigil neljal oli ühesugune kuju. Need olid välimuselt ja tegumoelt, nagu oleks ratas olnud ratta sees. 17 Liikudes nad läksid neljas eri suunas, liikudes nad ei pöördunud. 18 Ja nende rattapöiad olid kõrged ning kohutavad; ja sel nelikul olid rattapöiad ümberringi täis silmi. 19 Ja kui olevused liikusid, siis liikusid rattad nende kõrval; ja kui olevused tõusid maast üles, siis tõusid üles ka rattad. 20 Kuhu vaim iganes läks, sinna läksid needki, sinna, kuhu vaim tahtis minna. Rattad tõusid üles samuti kui nemad, sest rattais oli olevuste vaim. 21 Kui olevused liikusid, siis liikusid nemadki, ja kui need seisid, siis seisid nemadki; kui olevused tõusid maast üles, siis tõusid selsamal kombel ka rattad, sest rattais oli olevuste vaim. 22 Ja olevuste peade kohal oli midagi taevalaotuse taolist, kohutav nagu jää, mis oli välja laotatud ülal nende peade kohal. 23 Ja laotuse all olid nende tiivad üksteise poole välja sirutatud; igaühel oli kaks tiiba oma keha katmiseks. 24 Kui nad liikusid, siis ma kuulsin nende tiibade kahinat otsekui suurte vete kohinat, otsekui Kõigevägevama häält, müristamise kaja - otsekui sõjaleeri kära. Kui nad seisid, siis nad lasksid oma tiivad longu. 25 Ja hääl kuuldus taevalaotuse pealt, mis oli nende peade kohal; kui nad seisid, siis nad lasksid oma tiivad longu. 26 Ja nende peade kohal oleva taevalaotuse peal oli midagi, mis paistis safiirikividena, midagi aujärje sarnast. Ja selle aujärje sarnase peal, ülal selle peal, oli keegi, kes oli välimuselt inimese sarnane. 27 Ja ma nägin otsekui hiilgavat metalli, pealtnäha nagu tuld, millel oli kuma ümber, ülalpool sellest, mis paistis olevat ta niuded; allpool sellest, mis paistis olevat ta niuded, nägin ma pealtnäha nagu tuld ja sellel oli kuma ümber. 28 Otsekui vikerkaare paiste, mis vihmapäeval on pilvis, oli kuma paiste ümberringi. See oli Issanda auhiilguse ilmutuse paiste! Ja kui ma seda nägin, siis ma langesin silmili maha ja kuulsin häält, mis kõneles. hesekel
the uighur today and so called uighurs in history (known as Huihu, 回鹘or回纥) was not the exact same ethnicity, the Huihu were Altaic and was not being considered Turkic by the Gokturk Ashinas, modern day Uighurs was the mixed blood of the Huihu, Mongols, Khitans, and Turkic tribes that were islamised
@@piscator2813 So you want to say that the Han Chinese, in their attempt to completely assimilate the Uyghurs, gave them a new chinese name? So that uyghurs forget who they are? That is, with this statement you recognize the genocide of the Uyghurs. Thank you.
stupid ignorant man.the tokuz oghuz meaning uyghur is said to be turkic and in orhun monuments bilhe khan talks about the tokuz oghuz as his nation.motherfucker jerkie.keep your lies to your own homosexual ess.
Why are you faking history? GokTurks weren't empire! They were Khaganate so they were nomadic and tribal npt centralized. The first Turkic empire was Qaznavid , after they became centralized for the first time
There are many mistakes regarding the pronunciation of the word: 1. Gokturk should be "K-wo-k turk" (K-wo-k means "blue" in Turkic language including Uyghur). 2. Tiele should be "Ti-e-Le", not ,"ti-L" as you pronounced in your video; 3. "Huihe" should be "Hui-hu" and in Chinese it means "Uyghur".
4. Karluk should be Kar-lu-k. They were very close to Uyghur and later comingled with Uyghurs. Modern Uyghur language actually belongs to "Karluk branch of Turkic languages".
Invasion of China and its consequent subjugation was never on the table neither for Türks nor for Uyghurs. The fear was 'Chinese cultural clout'. If you actually read books or articles and would not have based your videos on your personal thoughts and convictions, you would know that there was fear that invading Tabgach/Tavgach would make Steppe folk 'Chinese like' due to immense strength and pull of Chinese culture (which would actually happen later to Yuan Mongols), so both Türks and Uyghurs opted for the 'option' of "milking" China. The Uyghur Khaganate did not control trade routes. What happened was Uyghurs forced Tang to trade immense quantities of silk for weak/ill horses, so the trade routes or the "Silk Road" shifted north. Sogdian traders would go north to Mongolia, Ordu Baliq instead of directly going to China through Gansu Corridor. And lumping history of the Uyghur Kaghanate and Qocho Uyghurs into one whole is bogus. The switch from Old Turkic runes to Old Uyghur alphabet took place in Qocho not in Mongolia. Culture, arts, literature etc is part of Qocho Uyghurs history, not Orkhon Uyghurs. The legacy part is quite funny. The language which is known as "Old Turkic" is mainly reconstructed through the written material of Qocho Uyghurs, nearly 85-90% of Old Turkic is Qocho written record. and not a single written Turkic word from Seljuks, Khazars, Qipchaqs and many others and you dare to talk about legacy. hehe
@@Apistoleon Regrettably, there not a single proper historically accurate English language channel dedicated to Turkic history. There's one in Russian though 'Иная жизнь", run by two professors from Republic of Sakha (Russia). But one would need to have command of the Russian language. Having watched a couple of other videos, I would argue that Emre's "perception is way off and distorted" not only with regards to Uyghur history but Turkic history in general. There is an unhealthy emphasis on ideology, religion and way too much bravado. It seems that he perceives the world, including medieval Turkic world, through the lens of a secular Turkish nationalist, encroaching of Islam has pushed him towards something as historically bogus as "Tengrist religion"
@@tursuntongra6706 Are you calling Tengrism "bogus"? What? This is the religion of the Turkic and Mongolic people. If you have never seen it, don't talk about it. What a lowly comment.
@@UndergroundDoggo And where are historical books, scriptures and literature on Tengriism? Cromagnons also likely "believed" in various things and probably had myths about forests, animals, stars, sun, moon, etc. But guess what? The next cromagnon group that lived 10km away probably had completely different sets of beliefs. We do not talk about cromagnon religion, do we now? One good example would be burial. Most of the Turkic groups who professed supposedly a common Tengrist faith, had differing methods of final disposition of their dead - with horse, without a horse but with bow, cremation, hanging corpses on trees, etc. How is possible for peoples who supposedly practice the same "religion" to have completely different burial traditions.
@@tursuntongra6706 Nomads depended on oral history just like other native people worldwide. Tengrism is more of a philosophy and way of living more than an organized religion that forces conversion. Tengrism drives your morals and existence on Earth. We know what it is and totally understand if foreigners do not get it.
im a uyghur learning my own history now on youtube cos in china they forbid us from learning anything relevant to us, cool stuff, so we were a bunch of assholes who took chinese money instead of helping our brothers, now we get fucked by the chinese and nobody helps us, it makes perfect sense, ty!
Congratulations! Warning: what I noticed in channels like this are people who are extremely nationalist, but dont use scientific evidence. It's a warning. Not an attack to anyone.
The last uyghur kagan Öge runaway west.Öge-Ügyek first hungarian the Turul-house Ügyek - Előd - Álmos - Árpád.Árpád the first big hungarian trible the Megyer(Magyar) boss.The seven trible Magyars - Bashkirs. Tribles name Jenő-Jenej, Gyarmat - Jermet,...the bashkir people langues changes hungarians - Magna Hungarica homelands. Old Hungarians fatherland border the uralic langues and altai langues family - one family. We are hungarians - only 896 old-year new homeland the steppe west end. The avars peoples,szekler peoples langues speaks - Öge uyghur familys - tribles assimilation magyars. The people name Magyar - speaking langues avars-szeklers-magyars mixed?writes old - avars and szeklers ABC, turkic write. Old-old times only one langue speak finnugrish-uralic-altai-korean-japan man.8000-10 000 old-years central-east asian steppe hunter nomadic trible. thx!
