Rise Of The Most Broken Fighting Game? - Sailor Moon S Esports 

It's like Potemkin dashing.

@@flipkiller8521 Now I gotta play this game

don't talk about my anus like that bud.

The dash *is* the command grab

Yes Sailor Uranus’s Forward Command Grab is even more broken than Marth’s Medium Ranged Grab in SSBM.

yea man

Which are your favorite top 3 fighting games?

It is tho. Sailor Moon is some of the most fun Ive ever had with fighting games

Then you remembered JOJO hftf exists and agree that everyone being overpowered is fun.

look at SF2 Super turbo its super fun and everyone is buster in one way or another.

Which are your favorite top 3 fighting games?

@@Vizorfam Strive, Smash Ultimate, and Footsies because I haven’t played anything else 😭

@@dylanh.3793 footsies goat

I love being juggled to death in one combo /s

@@dylanh.3793 same here. I need to play more fighting games. Replace Strive with DBFZ lmao

I guess somethings right in this world.

Fingers crossed!

@@Akshonesports yes be so much fun an fix the op aspect of it 😀

The OG DOA girls….where the game had the gals and the story….. :D

one of the old fightsticks of EVO has Missing Person showing off his like custom OC sailor scout fightstick

@Shin Shaman Sure, but mvc2 was considered a trash game at one time as well.

@Shin Shaman I'm not comparing them at all, i'm addressing a comment that said nothing about the sailormoon game, the comment was about supposed bad games. It was a general comment about games people found trash, and at one point people found MVC2 trash. Its funny how people try to judge someone's whole character off one comment about a game. I could say the fact that you can't spell correctly means you're in 4th grade and that tells me all I need to know about you, but that'd be stupid and a jump to conclusions. Then again looking at your channel you seem to get off on vids calling things garbage. So it seems like you don't really like discussions and instead like ways to write someones opinion off cause it doesn't fit your own.

@Shin Shaman Both Sailor Moon S and MvC2 are cheaply made kusoge, and that’s what makes them som great. The things that made both of these games so enduring was never intended game design, it was players breaking them to find a hidden gem underneath. When MvC2 first released, when players where still trying to play it ”as intended” within the boundaries of its intended game design, most players hated it; and rightfully so, as it’s just a cheaply thrown together game made up of 90% stripped down art assets from other games. But once players started to find ways to play it beyond what was intended, they found layers of depth that where never even meant to be there. That’s what made it a legendary game, just like Sailor Moon S.

@Shin Shaman It doesn’t just take assets from CotA and the Marvel games, though. It also take sprites from the SF Alpha, CvS and Darkstalkers games, removes frames from their animations, and the just add them all together into a single game with some quickly made 3D backgrounds. I like MvC2 as much as the next person, but pretending like it’s anything more than just a mish mash of assets hastily thrown together in less than a year, filled with more glitches and bugs than even its predecessors, is just silly. Heck, for whatever it’s worth, Sailor Moon S has more original art assets than MvC2 does. I’m not saying one is better than the other, because that’s subjective. But both are most defintiely buggy kusoges. You don’t have to let your nostalgia blind you to reality, nor does seeing the game for what it is mean you can’t enjoy it. The way you keep acting like it’s some artistic peak in game design is kinda embarassing, especially since the majority of what makes it great was by pure chance and unintended.

Preservation and not paying a premium help tremendously. Sometimes you need a good laugh. I enjoy bugs in old games, or seeing stupid stuff in new ones sometimes though no way I'd pay full price just like with tcgs with bad loops.

I just want the fighterZ treatment, man A sailor moon fighting game chuck full of reference and love for the series

@@runman624 no... in tired of flying goku junk...

@@johnynoway9127 lol what

@@johnynoway9127 git gud

@@BridgetGX nah not cuz im "bad' at it. Its just so many clones of the same thing. Its really really boring

Hi. I'm in undisclosed location and safe. Please put 100,000 dollars in burlap sack and wait for instructions.

@@SMRTMinako Are you my Nigerian prince? Where's that fortune you promised me?

Should it be broken again? There was a follow up game after this. SUPERS and some of the bugs were fixed.

@@pallafox It won't be as broken but probably intentionally super unbalanced in the sense that anything can happen during a match lol. I think it will be similar to DBFighterZ though.

@@doublestarships646 I think I like the idea of a blindfolded handicapped, which is what this game is. New and pro players have an equal advantage of getting ripped unexpectedly. It’s entertaining to watch!

@@pallafox I think this is the only game where people don't get upset at each other for losing or winning because of how unbalanced it is. It's a casual fighter with an unintentionally deep learning curve. You can't really blame yourself or other for losing because of the unbalanced. I don't know maybe Arc sees the appeal in that and are aware of it.

@@pallafox I don't think it should be broken, but it should be simple yet insane. Fix actual bugs, leave in ridiculous combos and mechanics, and make sure everyone is equally as strong. It could be great.

THIS MAN IS THE REAL DEAL.

I hadn't heard of this game until now but as someone that's only very briefly played Super Smash Brothers competitively, I have to ask what's the most insane BS you've seen from this game? Like broken/absurdly OP things. Btw have you heard of Digimon Rumble Arena 2? It's like a mix of Playstation Battle All Stars and Super Smash Brothers. It's a game where every character is so inherently broken and has a number of infinite/zero to death combos (it runs on a health system) or spammable moves it turns back into being balanced. The only character that's slightly more OP than the others is Diaboromon which has a spammable ranged attack that covers 1/4 of the entire stage. It's so bad and broken it transcends itself into becoming laughably amazing. The physical game disks are expensive, since it's obscure as hell, but was released for PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube so it's easy to get a copy of the game to a usb drive to play it.

@@empoleonmaster6709 I mean, there's numerous things. Sailor Mercury being able to counter hit kill 70% damage with her desperation was definitely one of the first moments the scene here realized how nuts the game could be. But really, you have the Uranus infinite (and the wide arrays in which they can be executed), the Jupiter 100% combo, the Chibi infinite backdash that stick out as the craziest things that exist. But the crazy part for me is that for the most part, there's answers to deal with every piece of that from every character. some of it requires matchup experience, others still require mechanical knowledge of the engine, and others just require just unlearning bad habits from every game. It keeps the game being absolutely busted and revolving solely around one single piece of tech.

@@SMRTMinako I have to ask, what do you even do after the Chibi infinite backdash? Isn't your opponent just waiting until you stop so they can punish you?

@@empoleonmaster6709 That depends on the scenario: If you have the life lead, what do you have to do but continue doing it? The one way they can mess up your inputs if you have the rhythm down is to cross you up, but there is an OS for making sure backdash occurs on either side by moving the joystick left and right, and allow that to buffer. If you don't have the life lead, you can proceed to either mix them up with butt slam, slide and throw if they're in close, or wait until end of round where you get desperation and spam it out of backdash cancels and double jumps. These two strategies have literally allowed Chibi to steal sets when used in conjunction with her infinite backdash.

Hands down better than thescore

@@thadex454 that channel now only covers controversies and mostly fps games

@@Vizorfam in its defense i really like valorant and they cover it

@@luisalpjax3929 yeah all I meant was now they don't cover much of fighting games like before

Facts!!!!

Ah, a fellow ROM site enjoyer I see

Which of the 4 Sailor Moon SNES puzzle games?

It was our pleasure!

Love ya Justice pfp, you have good Helltaker taste

After every video I watch, I get the deep feeling that theScore is inferior Most of their videos are talking about CS GO and, to be honest, CS GO is not the main theme of the channel, so why bother talk so much about only one aspect of this scene when you can talk about several... It's just lame!

Fun fact: theScore staff (I think Daniel Rosen and someone else) was at Canada Cup 2017 and played Sailor Moon casuals. Yeah, they loved the game (and Rosen has roots in fighting games), but theScore plays it safe a LOOOOOOOOOOOOT, which is why no video has been made from them (aside from showing it in an Evo highlights video)

GWED has a smaller scene but still passionate. I know Climax of Night tends to run GWED tournaments, but sadly that's the only one I can think of. I did play some GWED in Toronto, but definitely not at the level of zaniness I've seen out of that title. I did try helping someone start a scene for it here but efforts kinda fell flat for various reasons.

Imagine the G Gundam one showing up!

Thanks for the recommendation

Which are your favorite top 3 fighting games?

@@Vizorfam Tekken 6 n 7 are all the fighting games i played, why?

@@iamrei856 nothing just casually want to know in which fighting game are most people interested in, btw have you played king of fighters?

@@Vizorfam seen it but haven't played it

SNK Boss Duel and give it CvS ratios and SFIII isms.

igniz better keep his braindead infinite from kof '02

Your favorite top 3 fighting games?

@@Vizorfam I am not a Big F.G Fan but for My low experiencie: 1- Mortal Kombat 9 and X 2- Smash Bros Ultimate 3- Dragon Ball Fighterz

Its created by DBFZ creator ARCYS in the past before they even made Guilty Gear

While the way a player fights can be unique to the way a game is expected to fight, and fighting styles clashing can be cool, it sounds very anime when people come together to witness “fighting expression” even if they are correct.

Yeah, but that's because the fgc are a bunch of elitist whiners. This game didn't have an earlier, more awkward and less playable version for them to praise instead, so they accepted it ;)

@@FFKonoko Yep. A lot of toxicity directed at accessibility seems to be summarized as "I didn't have that option in arcades 30 years ago, so why should you?"

I think the argument is more like keeping the game the way they are and stop messing with the proven formula. Training and building skills on a video game is a huge investment of time and resources, and it would be discouraging for some that their hardwork will all turn to waste because the new version the game will invalidates all the skills sets they have mastered. If the community want "accessible"/dumbs down alternative, then create a new one or, like in the Sailormoon's case, introduce an already existing game. This isn't supposed to be an either or scenario, we can have both. But stay true to the original spirit of the games and introduce new games to fill in the gaps

what? who the fuck has said they don't want input buffer? this shit is standard in every game now basically and i don't think i know a single person who complains about the fact that they don't need to do super turbo-precision quarter circles?

I would love a new sailor moon game, that's equally as fucked up. Keep the spirit the same way the Marvel series did.

@@Se7enRemain Same here. After watching what French-Bread is capable of making with their fighting games, I'm putting my money on them if they ever decide to release a Sailor Moon fg. Not on Capcom or Arc System Works even tho Arc sys produce beautiful 3D models that give the appearance of 2D, I love the art that they used for UNIS and MBTL. Heck, i will still buy it if they go full meme and do it a little unbalanced since this is the appeal of this game but still, one can only dream.

@@8-Frames copyright issue ...

(S)NES fighting games that aren’t well known seem to be the best fighting games. This games, the Gundam fighting games, Joy Mech Fight - they all seem to be very good fighting games with unique mechanics and depth.

*Y E S*

Spongebob wavedashing

They already did one on Shrek Super Slam, check their video list.

@@faradise3819 ohhh

Wait seriously? I cant see Ami/Mercury fight for the main character title. She's just so nice.

Which are your favorite top 3 fighting games?

@@Vizorfam telken 7, kof 13, third strike

@@yeahboyz9314 not guilty gear or dbz?

I like Tekken 7, Brawlhalla, and DBFZ

@@Vizorfam i tried those before at my friend place, but since lockdown just started here and living in this part of the world it's hard to buy games at that price, maybe when they huge discount i might get them, i mostly play at game cafe

I never beaten it but I did love playing another story it's just so complex and the rpg feel of it is fantastic.

Maybe just becoz people aint interested jn the story but just the battle system

@@mathieud1256 You don't have to know the story behind Sailor Moon to play the other games.

@@Plasmawarrior i mean, not every fighting game lover is interested in RPGs. They play fighting games. And RPG gamers especially guys aren't really the type who would buy a game about middle school girls. Its like asking them to read shojo mangas. That's why this game wasnt popular at the first place coz it looks girly. But some guy eventually discovered that the battle system can be quite enjoyable as a fighting game and so people started playing it for the fights, not the characters or story.

With Stun City going back to offline, I plan to bring tournament play back. May bring it for casuals on the 7th of July, just to ease everyone back in. Also want to do an exhibitions with NeoRussell once as a big welcome back to high level Canadian SMS play.

It depend on what kind of sailor moon you want. If you want another one like this, it ain't gonna happened. But if you want a standard more balanced one, then it might. BUt then it will lose it's uniqueness among the sea of fighting game

I never knew I needed this so bad until now.

What do you mean? There.... is..... a Sailor Moon fighting game.... What do you mean it would be sweet if "sailor moon were to exist," it........ ....... does...... exist?

@@coreblaster6809 I think he means he wanted a Sailor Moon vs Hunter x Hunter.

How about Sailor Moon vs the author's original hit, Yu-Yu Hakusho? (Yes, you can tell by my avatar that I'm a bit biased...)

I'm surprised there aren't many recent fighting games with magical girls in it, that just sounds like a huge untapped potential market There are diehards of both series (fans of fighting games, and fans of magical girl stuff) that would bring in alot of money

It would be the greatest fighting game of all time. Too bad they're not smart enough to make it a reality.

The rights holders are HELLA protective of them. And there's a litany of rights holders for various aspects of the Sailor Moon franchise. I think if there were the opportunity for someone to want to make a Sailor Moon fighter in the modern era (Most likely ASW would want to undertake it), they'd have to talk to the rights holders for console/PC gaming for the franchise, which I think MIGHT be different than the rights holder for mobile games (IIRC Bandai Namco). Even for Sailor Moon to happen at Evo Japan 2020, the organizer (DBCade) had to sniff out the rights holders for the title and get permission from them and I think Naoko Takeuchi's company. They don't really bother with underground stuff in NA, but in their home territory it's really hard, else Evo Japan either wouldn't have let the tournament happen or let it be streamed.

But you didn't do anything

@@monfra6474 *leaves*