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Rise of the Powers of X #5 Brings an End to the Krakoan Era! 

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@BlerdWithoutFear
@BlerdWithoutFear 29 дней назад
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@mjr8888
@mjr8888 29 дней назад
The issue I have with Krakoa and 200,000+ mutants being off the table just shows that in the end, Orchis got what they wanted. After this new era, I bet they come back, Island and all. And Arakko better not be forgotten ffs.
@AJ-kt5zo
@AJ-kt5zo 29 дней назад
@ItsTheFizz
@ItsTheFizz 29 дней назад
"Segregation is good actually!" is a hell of a note to go out on, especially with *gestures wildly at current events*
@maryuris6573
@maryuris6573 24 дня назад
200.000 mutans who are ? Because they said that revive they can fight . It is strange to me SEE Cyclops , storm , Gambit with the phoenis if they had revived can You explain me
@sennaka
@sennaka 29 дней назад
I admit it, I snorted when the other Dominions took a look at Jean, then at Essex, and went “let’s talk about the small print in our ‘ride or die’ contract….”
@ozziemsmith
@ozziemsmith 29 дней назад
Lmao
@midnightkale8621
@midnightkale8621 29 дней назад
Sinister Enigma is really like Drake out here catching fades left and right from all directions by the Phoenix 😂😂
@AJ-kt5zo
@AJ-kt5zo 29 дней назад
@tall9317
@tall9317 29 дней назад
Gosh can’t believe it’s the end of an era. The krokoa era is what got me back into comics after taking a 3 year break from reading anything. I started buying the Hickman era trades a year after the launch because I love XFactor and the rainbow theme covers for all the trades. This will always hold a place in my heart. But it’s time to move onto something new and I’m excited for what’s to come. At least we kind of have a guarantee from Marvel that we’ll revisit krokoa again in the future. And I can’t wait to see how mutants evolve.
@shadowpsykie
@shadowpsykie 29 дней назад
So when Moira said she doesn’t want to die, she’s saying she doesn’t want to keep on dying.
@midas5668
@midas5668 29 дней назад
She just wants to live without the pressure of doing a change in the world of mutantkind, to live a good life and die to end in “the next plane”. In house of x 2 we learned that her first life was a good life, a calm life, that is what she wants
@Rinoavalentine
@Rinoavalentine 29 дней назад
@@midas5668I think your comment fixed an issue I’ve been having with how the X writers have been trying to paint her motivations. It didn’t make sense to me that all she wanted was to be free of her power, because she was already cured. But she wasn’t just trapped by her power; she was also trapped by Destiny watching her every move. So your comment makes it make sense to me.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 29 дней назад
@@RinoavalentineAnd she was also trapped by Enigma monitoring her entire life.
@Rinoavalentine
@Rinoavalentine 29 дней назад
@@christopherbennett5858 yeah! Good callout
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 29 дней назад
@@Rinoavalentine Thanks. Honestly, Moira just kept trying to be free but ultimately kept finding herself ensnared by something else.
@felixlopez7908
@felixlopez7908 29 дней назад
This was a great ending! Jean cooked!! 🐦‍🔥🔥
@lt2143
@lt2143 29 дней назад
Yes! Jean-Phoenix! Love that firebird emoticon of yours!
@X-Warrior.1119
@X-Warrior.1119 29 дней назад
I said it Before, Might as well say it Again... KRAKOA Forever!
@afro_princess1671
@afro_princess1671 29 дней назад
Amen ❤
@michaelbrown577
@michaelbrown577 29 дней назад
Krakoa was a really great idea. Leave it to Sinister to mess it all up
@Toki-Ralte
@Toki-Ralte 27 дней назад
5 years.. i miss it already, still I'm so glad I got to be a part of it.. X
@ugoeze7360
@ugoeze7360 29 дней назад
Dang, Chuck took the bullet for the greater good, I would’ve never thought.
@monolith_g
@monolith_g 29 дней назад
Almost shot the bullet that would’ve been his most unredeemable act😮
@jesusdicent2
@jesusdicent2 29 дней назад
I always believed in him.
@ozziemsmith
@ozziemsmith 29 дней назад
Honestly Charles really saved the day. Say what you want about him, but he made decisions that no one else would have. He had the foresight to set things in motion. I know this is a phoenix centric comic, but without him, she might have lost. I wish everyone knew the sacrifices he made. He really stepped up and was very strategic. This is the kind of Charles I want to see going forward
@algcutdog
@algcutdog 29 дней назад
RIP the Krakoan era. It got me back into comics after over a decade of tip toeing around. Really enjoyed it. Side note, I guess they completely threw away the whole "Wolverine hunting Prof X" thing LOL
@Rinoavalentine
@Rinoavalentine 29 дней назад
Right 😂 he was fighting a nimrod in the last fall of x haha
@andrewmiguelcastanas1446
@andrewmiguelcastanas1446 29 дней назад
I find it interesting how Krakoa and Arrako kinda switched places in terms of situation. For thousands of years, Arakko and its mutants were on a different dimension, (Amenth) while Krakoa was on Earth, now Krakoa or atleast part of it as well as majority of its mutant population now resides on another dimension as well (The White Hot Room), left to survive and rebuild with what they have left.
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai 29 дней назад
Astute observation. Pieces of the isle are pretty much fated to forever be apart.
@mb24244
@mb24244 29 дней назад
I noticed this as well when Exodus talked about Krakoa "returning" one day, but I'm hesitant to assume that Arakko is out of the woods just yet. Theres been little to no mention of whats going to happen to Mars once the Krakoan era is done. Would seem hard to overlook that theres an entire planet of mutants now. Marvel may try to do something to conveiently 'get rid' of it.
@andrewmiguelcastanas1446
@andrewmiguelcastanas1446 29 дней назад
@@mb24244 I wish they'd just leave it be, let it be the center and protector of the sol system like it was meant to be. Also the stories revolving around Arrako and its mutants was one of the best things Krakoan Era has offered especially with Storm, Magneto and Sunspot being part of the great ring. If they do not wish to continue Arrako's story, atleast leave it be, so that future writers can incorporate it on storylines.
@princehollywood87
@princehollywood87 29 дней назад
@@andrewmiguelcastanas1446 agreed!
@mb24244
@mb24244 29 дней назад
@@andrewmiguelcastanas1446 I always found it quite suspicious that the Judgement Day storyline had very few long term consequences for most of the Marvel world (as far as Im aware), and yet the writers decided that Uranos should virtually wipe out Arakko's population (its still unclear how many mutants actually live there now). Minimal damage elsewhere, but mass genocide for mutants. Wtf was that? So since then Ive felt like there are writers within Marvel who would have no problem getting rid of the planet.
@starrs0
@starrs0 29 дней назад
On the question of whether this was a good ending or a bad ending To Quote Marge Simpson "It's an ending, that's enough"
@ItsTheFizz
@ItsTheFizz 29 дней назад
Breevort: "EXACTLY! JUST A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT HAPPENED!"
@Blaqueword
@Blaqueword 29 дней назад
I love that they interpreted the Phoenix as a Dominion of mutantkind (which was Sinisters trick) and it also utilized the things they learned of making a unimind they learned in AXE. It essentially taught the lesson that their oppressors in this entire fight taught mutants how to win by oppressing them. Very "All tools forged against me will be added to my toolkit."
@ugoeze7360
@ugoeze7360 29 дней назад
“They interpreted the Phoenix as a Dominion of mutantkind” I did not pick that up when reading, astute observation.
@armandperez711
@armandperez711 29 дней назад
love the mention of al ewing's defender's beyond. that series and his ultimates are the two most underrated runs in recent marvel history they deserve way more love!
@klaudyd1552
@klaudyd1552 29 дней назад
While it is the end of a fantastic era ima tell you when I think The Krakoan story got off the rails and why Jonathan Hickman dipped. Remember early on we keep getting hints about Franklin Richards being important in this story somehow and I think Hickman meant to make that so…..up until Dan Slot randomly changed Franklin into a non-mutant in FF. Call me crazy (honestly I may be 😂) but the interference of that moment is where The Moria and background Krakoan story got weird. I think Dan or somone at marvel pulled something and Hickman realized X-men is to big to not be tampered with by editorial or other writers so he wrote the Moria turning heel and left it to marvel to continue onwards. Before that moment Xavier wasn’t tweaking, Moria wasn’t evil, sinister hadn’t popped off to hard……idk Franklin felt key and that change was abrupt and Hickman announced his dip after
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai 29 дней назад
Because of Hickman's work on Fantastic Four, I'm inclined to believe he had a bigger role for Franklin, but we may never know how big that role would have been unless another writer spills tea like the supposed Feige/Kamala thing or Hickman rights a memoir about this 20 years from now. Lol Although, considering how part of Franklin's power was to suppress his powers 99.3% of the time until he's mature enough to keep them, Hickman could have pretty much reversed that non-mutant bit if he wanted to.
@yaj280
@yaj280 29 дней назад
That Dynamite comics deal is Wild! And for a good cause! 👍🏾
@Iwillone
@Iwillone 27 дней назад
Xavier: You do realize it's Sinister you'll be stuck with right? Moira: ...Sh*t. JEAN come get me right the eff now!
@midas5668
@midas5668 29 дней назад
Destiny said to raven that enigma is in his death point forever not dying and that makes me think that when jean was killing him, as he said he wants to hide, maybe he was teleporting through every time so maybe at some point, jean returned as for her died but he is still dying in every timelines as he is death outside time.
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai 29 дней назад
It's a bit of Schrodinger's Cat. Him being non-linear, alive when he went to all of these times, and now dying in all of them, from the point of view of a linear being on date 20XX we'd "see" Enigma alive and dying, if we could perceive him. His death would be another point in time or outside of it (or technically also the same point of 20XX or 18XX or whenever) along with when he was alive and dying, which puts him in this constantly dying Quantum state.
@shadowpsykie
@shadowpsykie 29 дней назад
Mutant heaven and Krakoa are different. Heaven or “the waiting room” was created by Scarlet Witch And Jean. “The white hot room” is where the phoenix lives and is outside of time and space. The Phoenix “ate” the waiting room/heaven. Hence no more resurrections-ish. But the white hot room still exists with Krakoa.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 29 дней назад
Well, until the next time Jamie Madrox bites the dust and suddenly comes back years later. And Dazzler. Because of reasons.
@gota7738
@gota7738 29 дней назад
I don't think Phoenix ate the Waiting Room, it was shown to be empty in Resurrection of Magneto and this issue revealed that that was because most of the souls travelled to the edge of the White Hot Room to merge with the Phoenix. The Waiting Room itself is still around.
@Popcultureguy3000
@Popcultureguy3000 29 дней назад
Def going be examining those Phoenix panels later to see how many Phoenix empowered obscure and Variants of X-People I can spot. Already spotted Jimmy Hudson, Ultimate Son of Ultimate Wolverine, a Phoenix of either X1 Toad or Evolution Toad, Wild Child, daughter of Elektra and Wolverine from original May “Mayday” Parker’s “MC2” universe, the entire “Exiles” part of the cast of Sabertooth and the Exiles, various Mutants from Arakko, and the Nightcrawler/Wolverine hybrid clone from Nightcrawler’s. Luciano Vecchio must have either had the time of his life those panels, or nearly killed himself drawing all that.
@goldwave3032
@goldwave3032 29 дней назад
Raze and maystorm, also vampire storm.
@Popcultureguy3000
@Popcultureguy3000 29 дней назад
@@goldwave3032 Vampire Storm AKA Bloodstorm! Gotta look out for Meistorm, she’s so new I didn’t even register she’s there.
@TitularHeroine
@TitularHeroine 29 дней назад
I read so few of the books after HoX/PoX; are you guys talking about the Bloodstorm from way back in the Mutant X series?
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai 29 дней назад
​@@TitularHeroineYup, that Bloodstorm. Mutants from times past, other dimensions, timelines, etc.
@Wezt334
@Wezt334 29 дней назад
As an end to the Krakoan Era it felt a little lacklustre for me personally, similarly to the Sabretooth War ending, though I did enjoy certain aspects of it. For me my biggest gripes would be how the character of Enigma felt rushed and wasted particularly given the build up of the character in a Defenders Beyond as well as the fact that Moria was given a happy ending even after everything she did in everyone of her lives
@chriscoolmoreno
@chriscoolmoreno 28 дней назад
man we need an interview with JH and find out his original ending.
@DwayneTheGeek
@DwayneTheGeek 29 дней назад
It was a great ending to another era of X-Men! Can't wait for the new one to begin.
@imthestein
@imthestein 29 дней назад
I'm new to Al Ewing relatively speaking so I definitely need to read more to get these references but I have absolutely loved what I've read (it helps I've been a massive Magneto fan for decades and I really felt he got Magneto)
@infamousrob08
@infamousrob08 29 дней назад
I saw Jimmy Hudson, keeping dangling him. loved that part.
@bill930505
@bill930505 29 дней назад
Again, Stephanie Phillips (actual Phoenix writer) getting confused for Stephanie Williams. 😅 A Mandela Effect was happening when Enigma tried to change the events of Blerdkoa. 😂 Aside from that, I have to wonder about Jordan White’s comments about Sinister not being the original villain for the Krakoa era, and maybe we would’ve seen Doug or Destiny as the villain, but Doug would’ve handled this more carefully as a turned villain, since the Phalanx Dominions would’ve been under his control instead of Enigma (the original Nathaniel Essex). And every action that he did throughout the era was a sure sign that he was planned alongside the New Mutants with a proper handling by Hickman, along with the spinoff that never got its chance for Sam and Roberto. As well as Namor and Franklin Richards. That said, we would’ve seen a different 11th life with Moira being a part of Destiny and Mystique’s plans.
@Rinoavalentine
@Rinoavalentine 29 дней назад
Great breakdown as always! I would say that Moira in this issue was written out of character for how she’s been since X deaths of wolverine, but that’s also because THAT was a huge out of character drastic change. I think in this issue, she was much closer to the nuanced antagonist she was probably supposed to have been under Hickman’s direction. So personally I’m good with it and her ending. It’s as good as we could have gotten. She’s back in the toy box now and a future writer down the line could do something with either Phoenix timeline Moira or something else. I hope for no more one dimensional villainy from her. I actually hope we don’t see her for a long while, but when we do, that she chose to live her 11th life either in peace or even to do some good like she used to.
@Grt1n
@Grt1n 29 дней назад
I’m not a comic reader but I love the characters and stories and thanks to Blerd and a few others I’ve been on this Krakoa ride since it’s beginning so this is kind of crazy this story has finally ended. That said, I feel like this story got away from what it originally was or could have been. Idk just seems so… so… blah 😒 😕😑🤷🏾‍♂️
@LightsOnTrees
@LightsOnTrees 29 дней назад
lol "he on some Drake'ish", Mr. Sinister's whole comic history in 4 words.
@arc7375
@arc7375 29 дней назад
Isn’t that five words?
@DJMcIver
@DJMcIver 27 дней назад
The way Kieron and Al all of a sudden have to make all the Phoenix stuff make sense even though Jean didn't get to have her real final act is tremendous. Time will only tell if I'm satisfied.. I'm actually largely happy for the status quo shift 100%. Since it's not a true ending..
@bazzfromthebackground3696
@bazzfromthebackground3696 29 дней назад
While I'm used to Marvel fumbling the landing of these big arcs, the end of krakoa era ending seriously fizzled out hard.
@geenadasilva9287
@geenadasilva9287 29 дней назад
Really nice thoughts my brother. Your thoughts about Moira feel spot on. Thanks for all your great content. 🙏🏾
@withonforafteratbyin
@withonforafteratbyin 29 дней назад
this book was so pretty. the colors were pure CMYK vibration
@amyallen4910
@amyallen4910 29 дней назад
I love your commentary! Dukeroo 😅😅😅
@Volthoom
@Volthoom 28 дней назад
The threat that's been directly built up for about 2 years, was claimed to be the hottest shit around by far, was retconned to be the reason behind Hickman's Secret Wars as the Beyonders _wiped out the Multiverse just so it doesn't come to fruition_ ends up being dealt with in a single issue by the Phoenix, an entity that was previously unable to stop the Beyonders from wiping out the Multiverse. The concept of setup and payoff looks upon this in disbelief.
@counselingwithmrb
@counselingwithmrb 29 дней назад
This was a great video! I couldn’t wait to hear your thoughts 🎉🎉
@jonwoolner7026
@jonwoolner7026 29 дней назад
The issue was good but feel that a lot of the fall of x mini series didn't lead to anything. I hope that some cliff hangers from those series don't just get reckon by from the ashes.
@willperren875
@willperren875 29 дней назад
@Blerdwithoutfear I still think sinister is prisoner x and Charles is the one in the cruthes going by a different identity to keep wraps on sinister
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 29 дней назад
Wait doesn't T'Challa still have the tiger god in his possession?
@lt2143
@lt2143 29 дней назад
Jean Grey Phoenix in all her glory!!!
@levesterthesamurai7930
@levesterthesamurai7930 29 дней назад
I sent to much time in this comic trying to pick out all the Phoenix X-Men within the Phoenix 😅
@BBoldGaming
@BBoldGaming 29 дней назад
Man.. I have a feeling… when pheonix dies all her dead X-men become zombies and she unleashes the next Halloweenen event
@Theserious467
@Theserious467 29 дней назад
If she was able to tap into the abilities of all the mutants absorbed then she's literally unstoppable even using vulcan's energy absorption, Synch's power mimicry (which gives her all of dominions powers thanks to his power up) tbh if only she had Darwin she'd gain whatever ability she needed to match, react & beat him), Fabian Cortez (boost her powers to unprecedented levels w/o dying thanx to Phoenix) & so much more
@renahgade1750
@renahgade1750 29 дней назад
wait, were those characters in the white hot room?
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai 29 дней назад
In another piece of the wrap up, all the mutant souls from the Waiting Room migrated to the border of the White Hot Room, so I guess the Sacred 4 (formerly The 5) will potentially be spawning them back to life in New Krakoa too (if they're aware of them) for a population of millions eventually.
@Daxsymbiote
@Daxsymbiote 29 дней назад
Every time I hear Kieran Gillan's name in an American accent. I think Nebula has gotten into comic writing.
@briancherry9466
@briancherry9466 28 дней назад
Definitely a good ending
@Rinoavalentine
@Rinoavalentine 29 дней назад
Oh and I had no idea about any of the Tiger stuff. Thanks for the info! As an almost exclusive X-Men reader (and the old school Daughters of the Dragon lol) should I get Ewing Defenders?
@TitularHeroine
@TitularHeroine 29 дней назад
I haven't read too much Ewing stuff, but what I have has been really, really good. If you like the Defenders then I'm sure Ewing won't let you down.
@corujariousa
@corujariousa 29 дней назад
The end of Krakoa Era came too late, in my opinion. Never bought that nonsense of "Resurrection Protocols". Seeing infection bag Wolverine jumping around and going face to face with Sabretooth using that extremely heavy adamantium suit was ridiculous, just to see in the very end the writer stating the suit was restoring Wolverine's healing factor did not help at all. Writers have been getting way too much independence for a long time. No respect for characters' histories, powers, personalities. Kid Omega going down so easily, going around (head in a box) and dying in the end was sickening stupid.
@seanalexandermedia
@seanalexandermedia 29 дней назад
❤❤❤❤❤
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai 29 дней назад
Nice "big finale" ending to wrap it all up. Fully enjoyed it, but it was pretty much the bow on the present we all came to expect by now because of the knowledge the era was in full wrap up mode. The only better bow would have been to also have Xavier holding the minds of all the people he killed for Orchis in the hopes of one day bringing them back to somehow right his wrongs (in another world, maybe thats what he was doing prior to turning himself in).
@jonadol
@jonadol 29 дней назад
Jeannie is so OP now omg
@tajstokes8421
@tajstokes8421 29 дней назад
What about ARRAKO and the Arraki? What’s happening with them?
@user-yp2iy2ww5p
@user-yp2iy2ww5p 29 дней назад
It's a symbol of rebirth so it's always brand new. Enigma is the Most generic And laments xmen Villains ever. All the comics say he's that powerful and totally unstoppable but he's really just a guy with powers and is just a total let down. He got one shot by the Phoenix and Jean anyways he stinks. I think the final is shoot to wrap up Any loose ends would be gingerbread get her revenge Mother righteous for try to kill her.
@RubeusArchos
@RubeusArchos 29 дней назад
I liked it but feel some else may still try use broken pieces of enigma to do something else later on regardless of warning the Phoenix put out there about messing with things.
@armisteadgwathney6152
@armisteadgwathney6152 29 дней назад
Fairly good saga, i don't believe BEAST prime has past on,he may try to free the professor and run to MAGNETO and surprisingly WONDER MAN.
@matthewconlon2388
@matthewconlon2388 29 дней назад
Sinister’s role as 4 clones with card suit symbols on their forehead was unequivocally bad. It was MHA AFO, Star Wars Palapatine root of all evil nonsense. Good writing weaves together stories about a variety of challenges and characters that force protagonists to work together and overcome a variety of diverse challenges. Bad writing hangs that tapestry on one hook to make a bad guy you can punch with Deus ex Phoenix. The Krakoan era was a wildly imaginative and interesting start that devolved into a greatest hits wankfest. Looking forward to the next thing.
@AdrianMendoza23
@AdrianMendoza23 29 дней назад
Enigma = Drake Phoenix = Kendrick Lamar Dominion = J Cole
@aarronobsidian5597
@aarronobsidian5597 29 дней назад
What happened to all the Arrakki mutants?
@user-pr8gx3vb9h
@user-pr8gx3vb9h 29 дней назад
So Moira is saying she wants to end the psychological torment brought onto her as a side effect of her powers.
@pinkpowercoin3341
@pinkpowercoin3341 29 дней назад
I don’t recall them saying what the status of the mutants on “Mars” was. Was it mentioned in another book or am I just brainfogging
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai 29 дней назад
For now their last use was [many of them] following Apocalypse to Earth to take the fight to Orchis. For now they are still alive and well (aside from a few that sacrificed themselves to feed Krakoa Prime).
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai 29 дней назад
Xavier was right!
@tracyalan7201
@tracyalan7201 29 дней назад
I'm still having reading all of it, but the last panel of Moira thinking she is free when she doesn't become a mutant might be premature. She was already born with the knowledge of the other lives, she was already able to use that higher knowledge previously and have an idea of things to come. She might not be a mutant but she knows what they are plus, how the X-gene works if she was able to end if previously. This might be one of those other worlds/dimensions that the Watcher probably views and such. Would that mean, she wouldn't be involved with Charles in this next life, only the Watcher might know. I suspected that Charles earlier action was the step that he was hoping for, which, really seems to be the help that Jean needed to end Enigma. Dr. Stasis is gone, so is Mother Righteous for now. Sinister and Orbis Stellaris is still alive, which are unknown actors for another story line of either trying to accomplish another Dominion. We'll have to see.
@Anonymous-ee7si
@Anonymous-ee7si 29 дней назад
… I don’t know how I feel about some god damn tiger bring the equivalent to the Phoenix Force. Especially considering White Tiger is like a street level character, right? They just making shit up.
@oKiterrrr
@oKiterrrr 3 дня назад
Nah. Tiger was never on its level lmao. It's literally confirmed in the same issue the Phoenix scared it and had it hide into the shadows once more.
@karmabum21
@karmabum21 29 дней назад
Does anyone know what Hickman's original plan for the krakoan age was?
@ideasaboutthings8857
@ideasaboutthings8857 27 дней назад
im so lost with xmen krakoa age. what happened to the accelerated humans from the vaults etc are they a new superpower on earth? so all the mutants arent on earth anymore? so lost
@DonaldHeim
@DonaldHeim 29 дней назад
Yes, it was rushed. Did I want MOAR? Yes. Moar Phoenix! More references to Defenders Beyond, and how Enigma was a threat to Eternity. Moar. What is Rachael's relationship to the Phoenix now? Is Hope even an entity anymore? Clarify Moira! I want today! I want to tomorrow! (sings the Veruca Salt song from Willy Wonka) But all of that being said... I loved it. Except Phoenix Wolverine claws... I would have preferred something something specific to the the Phoenix and not more "Wolverine is everywhere"... Now, bring on the Phoenix ongoing and I hope for a trial / gathering ala "Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1", but with the Phoenix and much exposition on whose doing who and whose being true and who don't even care anymore... wait, that's a different song... Moar!
@mindbodysaul4382
@mindbodysaul4382 29 дней назад
My only critique is that the Phoenix already had a polar opposite the FIRST FALLEN. So why bring the Tiger back into the fold. The First Fallen is the polar opposite of the Phoenix. It's like they haven't read their own comicbook history.
@edgargalicia5071
@edgargalicia5071 25 дней назад
I explain to you the Tiger God is an aspect of the phoenix, it was created when the first fear of humanity existed, they are rivals in Faith in the concept of light and darkness, but the phoenix is ​​more powerful, He has already defeated him twice and another proof is that he lives within the WHR so it is nothing more than an aspect. Now they mentioned it because the phoenix when the Tiger died was free making chaos, Jean alone put him in his place
@19751phoenix
@19751phoenix 29 дней назад
All the mutant being in the White Hot Room is a horrible ideal. All that says to me is lazy writers. As much as I love Jean being Phoenix, she was better without it. It gave her character more depth. The problem is that these writers are not X-Men or Fantastic Four fans. Their all huge Avengers fans. Kevin really needs huge fans of all three, not just the Avengers. Every time they do stories that end like this means, "We don't know what to do with they so let's stick them here." They took another special thing and made it for everyone the White Hot room was and should still be for the Phoenix only. But, like Phoenix, they give it to everyone. Just lazy writing and no true thinking on the writer's party.
@DuwayneMurrelldebajanclasher
@DuwayneMurrelldebajanclasher 29 дней назад
sinister is in the apocalypse heir series coming up as one of the contenders for the throne isn't he?
@Rinoavalentine
@Rinoavalentine 25 дней назад
Yes you’re right
@alincristea4459
@alincristea4459 24 дня назад
Yes
@krysisstorm2703
@krysisstorm2703 29 дней назад
I think Marvel can't let the X-Men or any big IP get to far out of the established status quo. If you notice, damn near every tv show, movie, book, or comic franchise/IP that shows the possibility of a truly better world, particularly ones where capitalism isn't the ruler of all, are either reset back to status quo or ended abruptly! Look into why HBO cancelled Lovecraft Country. Why Marvel and DC alway have world altering events, but the change never lasts.
@telaras092
@telaras092 29 дней назад
And people still think Wanda ends Jean LOL
@oKiterrrr
@oKiterrrr 3 дня назад
Never that❤
@Ronin_Vector
@Ronin_Vector 29 дней назад
Does Knull fight into this whole light and darkness thing?
@jamienaismith9376
@jamienaismith9376 29 дней назад
Waiting so long for Enigma, and the moment of truth, runs away? For me, it was trash. But nice feat stopping Enigma changing the time events.
@user-pc3ew6rb5l
@user-pc3ew6rb5l 29 дней назад
I wonder if the primordial gods are Chinese 4 Divine beast
@user-pc3ew6rb5l
@user-pc3ew6rb5l 29 дней назад
The phoenix, The tiger, The tortoise, The dragon
@nobodyexceptme7794
@nobodyexceptme7794 29 дней назад
at the end of the day, can we really complain about how this ended, given how the whole thing started. It was a helluva fun run of X-men, and was capped off by X-men 97. Never forget....before Krakoa....we had Age of X-man......and the less said about that the better.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 29 дней назад
And IvX. All in all, despite some issues, it’s been pretty good.
@Nimrod2814
@Nimrod2814 29 дней назад
Ok I’ve fallen all the way off of X-men what did they do with planet arakko is it still a thing or what ?
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 29 дней назад
It is still a thing but recovering from the recent civil war between Storm and Genesis.
@danielmiddlebrooks6120
@danielmiddlebrooks6120 29 дней назад
I thought Professor X was Inmate X too, but if you read the free comic book day issue, it was HEAVILY implied that Inmate X was a female redhead, so either Jean Grey or Hope Summers, so…. Which one is correct?
@danielmiddlebrooks6120
@danielmiddlebrooks6120 29 дней назад
*shown to be [a female redhead]
@ozziemsmith
@ozziemsmith 29 дней назад
How? Jean has her own comic...and Hope was sacrificed. I don't think its them. It could be Madelyn, but I doubt that
@Rinoavalentine
@Rinoavalentine 29 дней назад
That was Siryn, and she and I think the Blob were just other inmates. There was also an Inmate X from the high security prison that we did not get to see on panel
@ozziemsmith
@ozziemsmith 29 дней назад
@Rinoavalentine I forgot about Siryn...that would be interesting.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 29 дней назад
@@ozziemsmithCould be interesting if this involves Juggernaut on one of the teams… maybe bring Black Tom in there for reasons.
@AtmosphereIVXX
@AtmosphereIVXX 29 дней назад
I really wanna what know was Hickman plot cause moving the entire mutant race of the table by just by putting them in the white hot room is super lazy And Rasputin better be in the new era smh lol
@arc7375
@arc7375 29 дней назад
Can someone please elaborate what Sinister gave Destiny for a wedding present?
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin 29 дней назад
The clone body that they used in the same issue
@arc7375
@arc7375 28 дней назад
@@JeangreyhasdiedagaiinClone body of who? And for what purpose? I haven’t read the issue, but wish to know.
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin
@Jeangreyhasdiedagaiin 28 дней назад
@@arc7375 for destiny to fake marry, while the real mystique steals something from Wanda maximoff’s shop.
@arc7375
@arc7375 27 дней назад
@@JeangreyhasdiedagaiinAh okay. Thanks very much for explaining that for me.
@monroerodriguez
@monroerodriguez 29 дней назад
sinister is in heir of apocalyse
@redghostknight55
@redghostknight55 29 дней назад
Why was ùnder the assumption that mystic and destiny were already married they weren't 😅 I just thought they were
@SugarSlayer
@SugarSlayer 29 дней назад
They are. They are renewing their vows.
@redghostknight55
@redghostknight55 29 дней назад
@@SugarSlayeroh ok
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 29 дней назад
Plus, last time they got married, Mystique was using the alias Eric Raven… who might’ve also been Sherlock Holmes. So, this time around, it’s them marrying each other as they are.
@Glitter_Gal_Visualz
@Glitter_Gal_Visualz 28 дней назад
So is she dead or not??
@wallisvictor9688
@wallisvictor9688 27 дней назад
Am so tired of stans saying jean made the phoenix, the Phoenix and jean is like raava and korra, they sre two separate beings. Yhe Phoenix found jesn in space where she nedded help cause jean was dying and it gave a her a choice to be its host and jean agreed, making jean the prime host of the phoenix of earth 616, jean isnt the phoenix force just the vessel connected to it since they fused.
@justingaffneysamuels2072
@justingaffneysamuels2072 26 дней назад
She helped create the Phoebus force. Hope destroyed the Phoenix, died abs became the Phoenix.
@oKiterrrr
@oKiterrrr 3 дня назад
Nah. It's been confirmed by Jean and by the writers themselves on multiple different instances for the last 2 years now. "There's no bird without me, and there's no me without the bird" - Jean herself lmao. It literally NEEDS her. Even if you don't agree with the past statements that further confirm that Jean and the Phoenix are one, she literally just recently rebirthed the Phoenix by recollecting all of its fragments. It literally refers to her as, "mother-me" she is no longer a host nor a vessel, she herself is a cosmic entity now and forever and as much as I'm meh on that idea, as long as the phoenix never EVER gets used by anyone else, I'm good with that decision.
@dinmavric5504
@dinmavric5504 29 дней назад
feels generic, unfortunately.
@theone3746
@theone3746 29 дней назад
where is the wonder woman review?
@SScott-nr9vl
@SScott-nr9vl 29 дней назад
Thank God it was my least favorite X-Men storyline since I was 8 years old and I'm 50. I hated what they did with the characters I hated what they did with Charles Xavier awful
@dlabrooknaum7316
@dlabrooknaum7316 27 дней назад
When the XMEN WERE MID??????that's the problem with these comic boys.....THEY ARE NOT REAL XMEN FANS.... the X-Men weren't ever mid...they were just getting warmed up....go read spider man or manga or your no name indies
@RafaAldez
@RafaAldez 29 дней назад
I dont like Enigma being beaten by the Pheonix. Its Marvel's version of Wonder Woman killing The Darkest Knight. Its nonsensical. Emigma shouldve remained unbeatable
@99saquan
@99saquan 29 дней назад
Hickman list the Phoenix and galactus as the only ones the dominion fears since the Beginning
@jonbodhi
@jonbodhi 26 дней назад
@@99saquanexactly. This was written into the beginning of the series.
@thispersonrighthere9024
@thispersonrighthere9024 29 дней назад
SO MUCH TRASH! i'll never buy another x-men comic again.
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