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Risk of Rain 2 Survivor Tier List - Survivors of the Void DLC 

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Risk of Rain 2 survivor tier list for the survivors of the void DLC! While everything I say is objectively true at all times, keep in mind this is my own opinion! Just because your stinky survivor main isn't S tier doesn't mean it isn't strong or fun for you personally.
I think the survivors of the void DLC survivors are broken OP omegabusted tho.
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survivors of the void DLC
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Most Fun Survivors: 1:38-2:36
Looping Survivor Tier List: 2:37-16:23
Eclipse Survivor Tier List: 16:24-

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@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
quick someone say something dumb www.twitch.tv/rndthursday
@MonkeyMcMonkey
@MonkeyMcMonkey 2 года назад
Something dumb 😎
@SticksGamingChannel
@SticksGamingChannel 2 года назад
Rex is a better survivor than Captain 🙂
@chaseackerman4234
@chaseackerman4234 2 года назад
I love watching rndThursday
@hiiragi1588
@hiiragi1588 2 года назад
safer spaces is the best item in the entire game
@Deladius
@Deladius 2 года назад
uh, using mods to unlock everything is ok?
@Monkeylordz88
@Monkeylordz88 2 года назад
Survivor smash or pass tier list when?
@jold3174
@jold3174 2 года назад
smash all YES
@madsante
@madsante 2 года назад
Pass all except Mul-T
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
next vid - controversial take alert
@Chirpster1
@Chirpster1 2 года назад
Huntr-
@Genghiskhan903
@Genghiskhan903 Год назад
Pass all except Rex
@dexterity494
@dexterity494 2 года назад
"mult is the only ranged survivor that starts with armor" REX moment
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
who?
@imminent_gans
@imminent_gans 2 года назад
Why are you bringing dinosaurs into this? The only thing close to that is Acrid and he doesn't start with armor.
@eyeunderscorezee
@eyeunderscorezee 2 года назад
what does metal gear rex have to do with this??? this is risk of rain 2
@basicallycaleb
@basicallycaleb 2 года назад
I LOVE REX MY LOVE FOR REX CANNOT BE SILENCED THEY CANNOT STOP THE REX MAIN FAMILY
@raisedrevolution4625
@raisedrevolution4625 2 года назад
There’s also Mercenary, Loader and Acrid. Guess you can stop playing them aswell rnd.
@Drewsta
@Drewsta 2 года назад
Oh boy, thank you I really didn’t want a healthy sleep schedule tonight
@gflow3643
@gflow3643 2 года назад
2am gang
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
i gotcha
@day8918
@day8918 2 года назад
I don't think 20 minutes is gonna harm much your sleep schedule
@Omen06
@Omen06 2 года назад
@@gflow3643 5:10am gang
@joeyjackson5075
@joeyjackson5075 2 года назад
Bruh I am SO fucked up rn and I gotta be up in 4 hours hahahahahahaha
@Vikushu
@Vikushu 2 года назад
Commando really is my favorite survivor at the moment. I know his playstyle is just pew-pew, but that's all he needs. He's one of those survivors where it really feels like you have to _work_ for that good run, you know? He also teaches you a lot about good item management. The new DLC actually made his runs more consistent.
@iownornot1
@iownornot1 2 года назад
yeah that's why i love commando too. I still like loader more because of how fun she is just getting around stages lol
@vivladi3899
@vivladi3899 2 года назад
Yeah commando is way underrated in this tier list. Especially for looping. He has the most consistent proc chain application tool of any survivor
@nobleradical2158
@nobleradical2158 2 года назад
he just works with literally any build. That's what makes him consistent for me.
@vivladi3899
@vivladi3899 2 года назад
@@nobleradical2158 That's the exact opposite of how it is. Commando works with comparatively few builds compared to other survivors, that's why he requires careful item management. But if you manage your items well you can use cauldrons and printers to get a good build that he excels with
@RjGoombes
@RjGoombes 2 года назад
Most of the characters force you to play in this weird playstyle i feel, while with commando everything just makes sense.
@gorthauer2679
@gorthauer2679 2 года назад
Engineer actually can cheese the mithrix fight by placing his turrets outside the arena, in most cases Mithrix will aggro on them but won't be able to hit them, giving you a free win.
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
lets go didn't even know about this
@ironjerm
@ironjerm 2 года назад
Imma use this tactic
@b4ngfargl333
@b4ngfargl333 Год назад
Can you do this on voiding somehow?
@herec0mestheCh33f
@herec0mestheCh33f Год назад
@@b4ngfargl333 nah, voidling has mostly ranged attacks, some of which have a lot of tracking. And from my experiences, his arenas don't have much in the way of spots you can put a turret where it can hit and voidling can't hit back. Maybe one exists, but i have no idea where.
@notveryartificial4486
@notveryartificial4486 Год назад
Unless you get too chill and don't dodge a shockwave quick enough in his 3rd phase, and then he just procs something like polylute on you💀
@aubade_1
@aubade_1 2 года назад
Personally I’d say mercenary underrated for eclipse and looping because slicing winds is way better than people think. Yeah you’re losing the s, but you’re getting a ranged ability that procs 8 times at a 1.0 coefficient. Maybe I’m crazy but I think it’s pretty darn good.
@ARTEMISXIX
@ARTEMISXIX 2 года назад
You're not crazy. It's very very strong
@lilacbee3374
@lilacbee3374 2 года назад
Also expose is busted
@mitchell9959
@mitchell9959 2 года назад
all expose abilities are good and work well with each other
@asm7983
@asm7983 2 года назад
@@mitchell9959 ya literally 0 cooldown against a group
@vivladi3899
@vivladi3899 2 года назад
No you’re totally right. Especially if you get a lysate cell it’s completely busted
@seanflanagan9675
@seanflanagan9675 2 года назад
As Commando main, i feel attacked, I would also say hes the most FUN survivor too, whereas engi is bungus tier on the fun tier.
@nogetmaerkeligt1st153
@nogetmaerkeligt1st153 2 года назад
I mean I get the most consistent games when I play him too
@kona7043
@kona7043 2 года назад
@@nogetmaerkeligt1st153 yeah I've a sneaking suspicion that a lot of people play the game as commando, unlock the rest and don't go back after learning a ton more about the game and mess up their previous bad runs and lack of knowledge with commando. (I did this at least for sure. Went back and quickly became such a fun character.)
@Adoptulous
@Adoptulous 2 года назад
big agree, few characters feel better than how it feels to slip and slide around on Commando even if he isn't top tier damage (and he still has solid proc coefficient so it doesn't take much to get the damage)
@m4rcyonstation93
@m4rcyonstation93 2 года назад
@@kona7043 nah i found captain just better commando, tried commando again and early game was so fucking painful it hurts that’s just my opinion
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 2 года назад
Can't complain about some people just wanting to hold down lmb and nothing else entire run, die and go again, right?
@ViolentSwamiBeats
@ViolentSwamiBeats 2 года назад
The anti woolie tier list
@primary_magic1227
@primary_magic1227 2 года назад
The more commando I play, the more I like him. He's probably in my top 3. Idk maybe I ate too many crayons.
@ourgloriousgodoursaviourbe2757
@ourgloriousgodoursaviourbe2757 2 года назад
He's like an empty, plain white canvas for you to demolish on Fricking poetry
@CanadianTeaMaker
@CanadianTeaMaker 2 года назад
Nah, you right. I used to think he kinda sucked but when I started playing him to 100% the game I realised that after I figured out how to play with him, he was pretty fun. Weak in comparison, but fun still.
@cobalt4161
@cobalt4161 2 года назад
personally top 5 for sure, mando gets slept on
@metalgearkirby9427
@metalgearkirby9427 2 года назад
No such thing as too many crayons
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
he is a very simple survivor so the people who like that kind of gameplay will gravitate toward him. nothing wrong with that. but u should lower the crayon consumption m8 ur family is worried
@fruity-plum-guy
@fruity-plum-guy 2 года назад
> mains commando and acrid > refuses to elaborate > leaves... the arts & crafts store, holding twelve gluesticks
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
ive come back to find ur sin
@memesharkgaming965
@memesharkgaming965 Год назад
ACRID FOREVER
@diamondngocplayer1740
@diamondngocplayer1740 Год назад
@@rndThursdaylocal dog commit arson
@mkman1
@mkman1 2 года назад
I started playing Commando recently because I wanted to stack Hella bleeds on things and I don't think he's as bad as I used to now. But holy fuck you're literally at the mercy of the RNGods if you don't get insane items you slowly get outscaled and it FeelsBadMan
@jontaii152
@jontaii152 2 года назад
Yeah nothings changed for commando. Feels terrible to play unless you get a perfect run
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 2 года назад
If I want to stack mad bleeds I go multi. Nails go BRRRRR
@mkman1
@mkman1 2 года назад
@@ainumahtar Something just feels bad about playing MUL-T for me I dunno
@plasmodius9449
@plasmodius9449 2 года назад
@@mkman1 double rebar is fun, but you get burned out by like 5 runs imo, because you literally JUST hold R and M1 at the same time, for the whole run. I've yet to unlock his alt special for some double nailgun shenanigans, it looks fun tho. He's also the slowest survivor (i think) and you can't stop during his shift, so it can feel clunky, but also sometimes fun driving around for a bit.
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 2 года назад
@@plasmodius9449 yeah that is why I play him, when I just dont want to think and hopefully watch bleed stacks go up crazy high. I should try a double rebar run again, just that as you say, holding R down and m1 is strong but annoying. Once you get some attac speed rebar becomes absolutely nutty though.
@nikolaskulka9574
@nikolaskulka9574 2 года назад
I know, I know but... unironically merc gets a pretty substantial dps increase when you use all the different animation canceling and tech he has. Can literally reliably instakill floating bosses like AWU. Aside from that, totally fair list cool vid
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 2 года назад
He is theoretically strong, but also plays the most different from everything else that anyone not specifically interested in the playstyle will probably never learn to play him that well. Getting the achievements for him was such a painful experience to me I actually uninstalled the game for several months, and succeeding to do a monsoon run I actually managed because I got the wisp boss item so I didnt need to use his abilities. I know the numbers mean he's strong but he will always be the only F tier survivor to me. At least commando is just boring o.O
@kabkabkab
@kabkabkab 2 года назад
nerd
@InsaneToats
@InsaneToats 2 года назад
@@ainumahtar Lucky for you his best side ability is the easiest to get, rising thunder. The other ones are for memes builds really.
@nikolaskulka9574
@nikolaskulka9574 2 года назад
@@InsaneToats ok definitely not true, but that's a discussion for another time 😅 Pretty much all his skills have valid use-cases, tbh I typically take slicing winds now
@nikolaskulka9574
@nikolaskulka9574 2 года назад
@@kabkabkab yeh
@seanriddle7860
@seanriddle7860 2 года назад
Something I discovered on my own, but y'all might already know: power saw is agile, you can sprint while using it
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
o true actually lmao. powersaw op
@seanriddle7860
@seanriddle7860 2 года назад
Very
@ryomathekillers7421
@ryomathekillers7421 2 года назад
I love merc because his base mobility doesnt make me want to cry so he's really fun, how good each character is doesn't really matter too much considering ror2 is just a game of surviving until you get enough items to carry you, the only thing that changes is how many items your character needs to function very well which is why the dlc characters are so good since they need very little.
@cata_henny2456
@cata_henny2456 2 года назад
Merc Main here. I agree with a lot of your sentiments, especially the Commando parts lol, but I feel one thing worth noting is that Merc is one of the least RNG-dependent survivors for killing Mithrix. Sure his damage isn’t great as the run progresses and he takes time to learn, but you can reliably rush TPs and get to the Mithrix fight with more consistency then any other survivor bc of s and low cooldowns.
@kirbyjinet302
@kirbyjinet302 2 года назад
Merc artificer loader and railgunner are all in the kill mithrix specialist group. All of them excel at just gunning it for mithrix and taking him down with relative ease ie skipping pillars and making the boss fight a joke.
@spacepillow
@spacepillow 2 года назад
Do you play melee or ranged? I'm trying to beat eclipse with everyone but I have no idea how to play mercenary. Ranged seems safer but feels awkward
@Kenzo-vg5ik
@Kenzo-vg5ik Год назад
@@kirbyjinet302 what is skipping pillars?
@Pins30
@Pins30 Год назад
@@Kenzo-vg5ik going to mithrix arena with enough height to reach instead doing 4 pillars.
@neku-fn8dq
@neku-fn8dq 2 года назад
The reason why i love Engineer so much is because he can make a use of an items that will be otherwise pretty garbage for rest of the survivors
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 2 года назад
One single item ^^ But wungus turns that around again
@primary_magic1227
@primary_magic1227 2 года назад
also some of the items go from good to awesome such as the explosion boss item (forgot what its called) and dio's. or the void egg that summons voidlings.
@nekaomi4251
@nekaomi4251 2 года назад
yeah but engi is just stand still beside ur turrets and win but idk man
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
wungus nerfed engi :(
@frayedsocks
@frayedsocks Год назад
Fungus is useful if you use pick your items artifact 🤓
@lord.xerces8844
@lord.xerces8844 10 месяцев назад
As a Bandit main myself, he is 100% the most satisfying survivor in the game imo. Theres nothing more fun than flying around one shotting everything with Desperado by stage 3 lmao
@Maple38
@Maple38 2 года назад
You just gained a sub lol. That explanation of mobility, damage, and healing was great, and the fact that you read the survivors out loud for anyone listening to audio is so useful for me who has videos on while playing lol
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
thank you kind sir
@ItsKrovus
@ItsKrovus 2 года назад
Was just searching a tier list yesterday for SoTV dlc, your doing gods work 🙏
@wisp6782
@wisp6782 2 года назад
Loader, Acrid, and Merc should be way higher IMO. For most video games mobility and range > everything else. This also applies to RoR2. Mobility and range can just compeltely prevent death and make you faster at clearing stages. I'm like 90% sure that the mobility on those characters is more impactful on stage clear time than Capitan's hack. Acrid's range and mobility prevents him from ever having to actually fight anything. Loader is fast and tanky; she is hard to one-shot and only has to be in for a few seconds to do dmg. Mercenary can just be invulnerable 24/7 completely preventing death. Alternativley, you can run slicing winds and have one of the best ranged abilities in the game.
@joemogley
@joemogley 6 месяцев назад
Merc does piss damage , loader is objectively worse than railgunner
@campfireofdreams758
@campfireofdreams758 2 года назад
Most fun for me is Huntress/Railgunner/Artificier. Huntress for her incredible mobility compared to other classes. Railgunner makes the fun builds even better and actually rewards your skill (fast aim). And lastly Artificier, my favorite, for how it's gameplay is totally different from other classes, she abandons ground movement in all it's forms due to casting time on spells and knockback, it's objectively better and easier to just fly all the time, has kit that is basically made for duplication and spamming in succession instead of shooting/ occasionally using abilities, like other classes. And has a certain skill cap, some abilities have a very close range, but are rewarding and positioning is very important (ice walls, stacking them).
@notveryartificial4486
@notveryartificial4486 Год назад
Ice walls are *not* close range. In fact, they are the longest range ability she has. They instantly appear on any horizontal surface you have LoS on. And that's real handy
@Brass319
@Brass319 Год назад
artificer is fun imo because 1. ENV suit. Even without surge, just a little bit of vertical mobility like a feather or two and you don't need to touch the ground much 2. You spend a lot of time sprinting, meaning you just generally get to move around fast and play somewhat like how an agile survivor would 3. All of her abilities are viable imo. Fire bolt has better damage on tanky targets while plasma bolt is easier to aim while flying high, ice spear can be used better against flying enemies and tanky targets while nano bomb can clear swaths of ground based enemies and is easier to aim while flying high, flamethrower trades off a get out of jail free card and reliable pillar skipping + earlier access to mobility for great damage making it a difficult decision imo. As you may or may not have been able to tell from this or from your own experiences, the ion themed stuff goes well together and the fire/ice themed stuff goes well together.
@tcghosted
@tcghosted 2 года назад
I started playing commando a LOT after survivors of the void dropped… he’s now my absolute favorite survivor in the game, and it’s not even close. He feels so good to play imo. I can’t even remember the last time I lost a run on him, even in eclipse. I feel like a lot of the new items helped out commando a lot more than some of the other survivors.
@deeznuttes9340
@deeznuttes9340 2 года назад
too bad he's still unironically the worst survivor
@tcghosted
@tcghosted 2 года назад
@@deeznuttes9340 I think you can definitely make a case that artificer is worse, and Rex is definitely worse in eclipse runs. And besides that, him being the worst doesn’t change the fact that he *feels* immaculate to play.
@eskilvanduijvenboden483
@eskilvanduijvenboden483 2 года назад
Been waiting for this video, can’t wait to watch
@topspeed6278
@topspeed6278 2 года назад
"every time you use an ability that hurts yourself, safer spaces blocks it" then just don't pick up the water bear smh
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
how freaking dare u !
@harvey7943
@harvey7943 2 года назад
"welcome to the salty spitoon how tough are ya" "i beat eclipse 8" "yea so?" "as REX" "uh...right this way sir."
@OMalleyTheMaggot
@OMalleyTheMaggot 2 года назад
Seeing people complain that railgunner is bad has been hilarious. It's basically a confession that you just can't aim.
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
thats why i ranked her the highest. cuz im an aim god B)
@InsaneToats
@InsaneToats 2 года назад
Alright ill take the bait, you ARE playing mercenary wrong. Id rank mercenary as one of the few survivors that can excel without good items. Something a lot of people dont know, is that blinding dash makes you invulnerable even while chaining it. So a Merc can Dash>Dash>Evis>Dash and be completely safe. Meaning he can attack high priority enemies and escape without a scratch. Oh Did i mention there is a bug with merc/loader where any flying enemy, bosses included can be instantly killed if they fly into a wall. Mercs blinding dash can occasionally push even the allow worship unit, killing it instantly. I also use rising thunder to do high damage with bands and crowbar, Dash in> RisingT to apply bands/crowbar> dash straight down> Evis to stack on hits> and dash back out. Dont forget that blinding assault can stun enemies, so u can find a solo target, or stun a group, and get 2-3 free Rising thunders before they can react. Which gives you ample time to re-stun or run away. Its also a crazy good damage dealer that synergizes with itself, With enough Mags u can send most enemies straight to heaven, and with attack speed u can spam it so fast it can kill most heavy's before they can attack. Bezerkers pauldron is a must on on mercenary, and he has a clever way of getting it. it takes basically 2-3 Dashes to drop most small enemies, and lining up enemies to hit all of them makes it super easy. Not even taking on death items into account. And once he has bezerkers his basic attack passive lets him spam abilities way more often by resetting his cooldowns even faster. Another god tier green item is bandolier. Most survivors, cant go get the bandolier drop since it puts them in danger, and the risk outweighs the reward. Merc can use every 2 dashes>Evis and dash towards the bandolier to instantly reset his abilities, Late game Merc becomes an untouchable god, Blinding dash is deceptively strong crowd clearing move, with enough on hit/on death items u can kill bosses just from focusing down small enemies, which in turn drop bandoliers and boost damage, all cascading massive untouchable damage. On the topic of early game, his passive lets him out dps 75% of the survivors by letting him spam his abilities, and his passive can be applied to groups of enemies meaning he could get it all back in a single swing. There i said it, you are playing him wrong im sorry, please dont attack my family.
@Gilly999999
@Gilly999999 2 года назад
*merc main intensifies*
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 2 года назад
Tbh he did say that you're dumb if you only say he's wrong, I'd say you did a good job proving you are a merc main and give a bunch of reasons. Will literally any non-merc-main agree? Probably not, but you certainly exceeded "sword good, rnd bad" xD
@phuocminhluu2919
@phuocminhluu2919 2 года назад
We have a master gamer here boys. Who never die to malachite and other area dmg debuff effect; and never thought/realized he's being skill check / reaction check to it a tons lots more often by being closely around them all the time; and will always have ben's raincoat every game.
@shubhamghoshal2939
@shubhamghoshal2939 2 года назад
While everyone else was partying, this guy studied the blade lmao
@InsaneToats
@InsaneToats 2 года назад
​@Rill Focused assault, and slicing winds are a great meme build, its kinda like playing commando on steroids. On one hand two wisps is enough to make you fear for your life, but on the other u can kill god.
@nellowyt7417
@nellowyt7417 2 года назад
The joke about Artificers alt is why i use it over the flamethrower, I'd rather have that get out of jail free card if need be rather than a flamethrower that isnt that great in late game unless im able to find void corrupt battery cells or the gas tank
@PennTankerGuy
@PennTankerGuy 2 года назад
I know we give Commando a lot of gaffs - and rightfully so - but I don't think he's quite... bad... He's just underwhelming when you compare him to literally every other class in the game.
@Underpantswher
@Underpantswher Год назад
I mean it kinda makes sense that hes underwhelming since hes kinda the default character. Hes likely the survivor most people play first, so it makes sense to have basic abilities to ease people into the game, rather than the more complicated abilities of other survivors.
@thesaxiest4480
@thesaxiest4480 2 года назад
I'm a commando enjoyer admittedly. Yes he is very vanilla, but what I find fun about that is that instead of trying to find items that compliment him early on, I just take whatever and then try and find items that compliment the items I got early on and this leads to runs that feel very different each time compared to the other survivors imo. I think it's fair to say he sucks though, not gonna argue that.
@Brass319
@Brass319 Год назад
yeah, you get outscaled almost no matter what you do. Zooming around with the slide is very fun and so is having three various ways to shoot someone in the face that I get to rotate between.
@Gale42
@Gale42 2 года назад
Merc for me is all about the ranged playstyle and the techs like the triple exposed tech where you r with slicing winds get to your third m1 and dash as your m1 goes off, you get 3 sequential exposed procs and with more than 3 enemies you get essentially 0 CD on your skills
@kaanikoz
@kaanikoz 6 месяцев назад
you are my favourite youtuber and this is the first video ive watched from you
@descout6474
@descout6474 2 года назад
Commando has okay consistentcy. I think i see myself falling back to him whenever im having bad runs that day. Its just a such a simple basic kit that makes him so comfortable to play. Will say that the pain i feel when dont pick up a focus crystal, wax quail, or ukelele by stage 3 is astronomical.
@Shiggy_
@Shiggy_ Год назад
Mercenary is so fun, especially on wandering jellyfish bosses. Chaining your shift ability to get on top, and using your when he uses his aoe, it just looks so cool. But bandit is starting to catch up to him, bandit is hella fun
@thearmedbandit
@thearmedbandit Год назад
Can confirm as a fellow bandit, he is fun. First character I ever beat monsoon on, very reliably can rip apart beetle queens and stone titans. Wandering Vagrants suck tho, like where tf is their back?!
@Jpeg_skeleton
@Jpeg_skeleton 6 месяцев назад
​@@thearmedbanditI just stand under them. Idk why it works
@theforesttroll
@theforesttroll Год назад
I adore pure melee acrid, good damage w the bite, the healing from m1 and m2, and the geeling of just beginning a sprint and flinging yourself on any airborne enemies it's just -chefs kiss- weird thing tho I thought he was a horse at first, idk why I think he kinda sounds like one when he jumps
@bubberducky9225
@bubberducky9225 2 года назад
My go to way to build engineer is spider turrets + rushing visions. Those little things walking around shooting needlers just feels so strong!
@sedraniM
@sedraniM 2 года назад
Seeing Captain in B Tier just hurts my feelings
@Adoptulous
@Adoptulous 2 года назад
lmao just finished grinding eclipse 8 on commando then you released this, I really think his utility is underrated. Truly hard to take damage if you're using it off cooldown
@budzee313
@budzee313 2 года назад
Nice job on the eclipse 8 man
@Adoptulous
@Adoptulous 2 года назад
@@budzee313 ty :)
@0G-Ghost
@0G-Ghost 2 года назад
Thank you so much for representing the audio listeners
@lil_moistbuns9635
@lil_moistbuns9635 5 месяцев назад
Hey man. Been playing since it came out on ps4 all I can say is welcome to the community man. I hope you enjoy it for the long run.
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 2 года назад
RND: To be good, a survivor needs damage, mobility and healing. Also RND: Engi, a survivor who does not have 2 out of 3, is the best non-dlc survivor. ME: Sad plant noises for rex in this ranking, especially if you're talking about consistency. Not to mention the fact imo he is the single greatest survivor to take broken glass on, because you're not really losing anything anyway. bears > safer spaces for him, which feels kinda bad, but eh. Also me: 100% agree on rex being the worst in eclipse. That seemed just specifically made to not work for him >.>
@eee2214
@eee2214 2 года назад
Engi is f tier no cap
@InfernoPower
@InfernoPower 2 года назад
Engi ain't shit compared to loader and captain
@darkloaf1033
@darkloaf1033 2 года назад
@@eee2214 yes cap engi is GOATed with the sauce and the best damage dealer in the game
@eee2214
@eee2214 2 года назад
@@darkloaf1033 loader is typing captain is typing rail gunner is typing corrupted void fiend is typing huntress is typing
@darkloaf1033
@darkloaf1033 2 года назад
@@eee2214 captain: better with engi anyway (especially with his healing beacons) as for everyone else, I can smell you from here dont worry
@Eyed_TopHat
@Eyed_TopHat 2 года назад
9:18 Huntress mains when they actually have to aim
@plasmodius9449
@plasmodius9449 2 года назад
Really insignificant and not important to the topic, but that smallest detail of reading out the tierlist for people listening to audio only at 2:07 me smile lol, I have never seen any youtuber do that once. Sorry for rambling this much about it, but that's the smallest detail ever that made me happy for some reason.
@pralenkaman8105
@pralenkaman8105 2 года назад
So I've been playing eclipse lately and while I'm pretty bad at it, I've been trying to not pick up healing items, because of the later eclipse nerf that cuts healing by 50% and trying to cut the damage I take, because of the final eclipse buff, what I found is that healing is really not that important, especially cautious slugs, medkit can still be useful, leeching seeds really depends on the survivor, but I generally still think they are mostly useless, especially if you go straight to mythrix and don't loop, you'll probably not have a lot of leeching seeds, bungus is only good on one survivor but it's good to run away from a tough situation and heal up, wungus is just amazing for everyone except engi So my veridict, play however you like, but I've been finding that for the more "optimal" playstyle, at least for me, print everything that's healing, you'll get a ton of scrap that you can use on useful printers or the mythrix or newts item soups
@fuckyoutube2326
@fuckyoutube2326 2 года назад
Did so much damage to mithrix as rail gunner on eclipse it skipped his last phase.
@FlippyK
@FlippyK 2 года назад
that's an interaction with kjaro's not high damage
@ethanpierce6118
@ethanpierce6118 Год назад
Merc is my absolute favorite survivor cause like yeah he ain't the best, but damn is he fun and engaging to play. The feeling of slicing through enemies while just barely having your cooldowns recharge in time to save your ass is just so exhilarating for me
@Kaeiand
@Kaeiand 2 года назад
3:15 "I mean what survivor can do this?" Captain, for one. Arguably Rex as well.
@T3kRazor
@T3kRazor 2 года назад
I used to main Arti until SOTV came out, then I switched to Railgunner with a side of Hunt. I didn't really understand why I wasn't having a great time with Arti until I realised that Rail is just a better Arti: -Arti's M1 was always a weakspot for her while Rail's is annoying at times but way more useful both early and late is more runs -Arti's M2 was her main dmg but the Nano Bomb always felt sluggish to me so I'd stick with spear which is way under dps compared to either of Rail's M2s assuming you're hitting the weakspots (I usually run the HH44 over the M99 just so I can clear a bit easier earlier) -Arti's Utility is probably the only point I'd give over Rail just because of how strong that ice wall is while Rail's Concussion bombs are great mobility only being able to use 1 instantly without items weakens it imo (slow field feels too cramped to justify taking it while sacrificing mobility). Haven't tried it yet, but Strides of Heresy on Rail might be a good pickup but would hinder vertical movement height with the Concussion. But we can compare Arti's Utility to Rail's Special Cryocharge, which would need to pierce 4 enemies before dealing less dmg but can continue piercing to proc the freezing effect which makes it better imo -Arti's Special is her mobility (not taking flamethrower as range feels too short, especially with SOTV and the new flying enemies, and too limiting for her mobility with a restrictive use case in combat) which is good and all but requires movespeed to be able to effective, however I'd say it is still better than the Concussion bombs as a get-out-of-jail-free mobility, while Rail's Special Supercharge is one of the highest single-hit dmging skills in the game (exceptions being Captain's DIABLO Strike and a stacked up Bandit's Desparado) and Cryofreeze which deals half Supercharge while applying freezing and not putting the rest of your skills on cooldown Sad days for Arti mains; I still like her design and kit a lot more than the other survivors
@MrDeothor
@MrDeothor 2 года назад
Artificer is in dire need of a rework/redesign. M1 is just awful to use due to its gimmicky recharges and low damage M2 shouldn't be cast after charging to max Shift is fine, although its placement-system is terrible. I'd suggest making it as a projectile with expanding freeze-AOE on hit. That way you can at least hit fliers. The M2 frosty spear sacrifices too much of arti power, to consider using. R - flamethrower is total sh. It adds alot of damage, but it's worthless without mobility. The R-jump is nice mobility passive - 'floating' makes artificer too slow, which wasn't big deal before, but with new flying mobs this is a death sentence. I kinda like playing arti, but why would i ever, if Loader does exactly the same stuff (big combo hits) but so, so SO much better and safer? Acrid is my 'es numeros uno' favourite survivor. His mobility is great and i love DoT in general.. But yeah both poison and blight are too weak to carry him. It's more like a bonus damage. Would be nice if he had some buffs to it. Also acrid bite (m2) and other type of leap is just awful and shouldn't be used. My biggest problem with Rex is its shift inconsistency. It uses physics to push mobs away, the closer mobs are, the stronger the push. Sounds great on paper, but overall because of it it has "3 pushing modes": enemy on top of rex = strong push, enemy close = weak push, enemy still in cone but far = no push at all. It's just too inconsistent to be reliable. Commando shows that hopoo doesn't care about "balancing" all that much. His M2 piercing shot always was and still is terrible, just awful. And.. devs didn't bother to ever adress it. How did they "fix" it? By just giving him a much better M2. That was the fix to terrible ability, ignore it and make a MUCH better one to pick. I don't care if commando is "starting" survivor. He should be just as viable as rest.
@pearlspring6328
@pearlspring6328 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a6uyn2M115s.html loader is OP, arti isnt underpowered
@shoop_the_mystic
@shoop_the_mystic 2 года назад
Best survivor? Commando. Why? Soldier's Syringe. But that's an item??? y e s
@PirateOfPlayTime
@PirateOfPlayTime 2 года назад
all you need to win with commando is some crit, a pred instincts, and a ukulele/atg. perforators make him dummy strong too.
@kirinirlf
@kirinirlf 2 года назад
I like all the characters, but I agree with most thoughts on Commando. Which is sad, because from a gameplay pov, he is fun af. So I guess kudos to being a stepping stone, commando 🥴
@arctic_depth
@arctic_depth Год назад
I feel as though artificer being S teir is perfect due to the fact that her nano spear, which freezes, can freeze mithrix, so just a few of the extra mags for multuple spears and mithrix cant do much
@pally3370
@pally3370 Год назад
Huntress main here, I feel as if huntress is always a hit or miss, vertical movement isn’t normally an issue since I play with the normal blink rather than phase blink. I personally feel as if where huntress truly shines is multiplayer. I run around a ~70% win rate on Huntress, and nearly every time it has been on multiplayer, she scales incredibly well with survivors like engineer, where the turrets allow for more distractions for the enemy, drawing agro away from her, which she needs, as she is incredibly squishy like you stated. If you loop as huntress, I nearly always get the most damage out of my party members purely because huntress triple shot with near full/full crit is easily one of the most broken survivors in the game. Unfortunately, most items are quite poor on her, so I would personally put her at the bottom/near bottom of A tier for looping, especially if you go to AoC if you’re looping.
@vivladi3899
@vivladi3899 2 года назад
I love playing E8 and I think your eclipse tier list is pretty good, but I do think you’re underrating commando. His M1 is (arguably) the best in the game Like you mentioned, commando has damage and mobility. He’s missing healing but healing doesn’t really matter on E8 because damage is permanent anyways, it’s much more about playing careful and not getting hit, which commando is good at. Also totally go ranged build on merc
@serius9894
@serius9894 2 года назад
I love the merc gameplay on the commando segment LOL
@mattacer
@mattacer 2 года назад
thanks for saying their names. I always have videos in the background lol
@mranderson9553
@mranderson9553 2 года назад
i just realized the new glasses is a hidden buff for bandit, the crit passive always becomes useless within one loop but the removal of easy 100% crit increases its value
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
now ur really in the matrix
@jonasgreen1918
@jonasgreen1918 2 года назад
Commando was buffed and he’s actually really quite good no
@beantownsanims
@beantownsanims 2 года назад
haven't really got a "main" survivor i like to play, but it sounds like engineer is a fun pick. maybe i should play him once in a while 🤔thanks for this extraordinarily objective video that has now become my religion
@gabed3686
@gabed3686 2 года назад
I've been excited for this video :I
@Lyndis_
@Lyndis_ 2 года назад
With this list I'm beginning to understand why you get so many doubters
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
doubters never prosper
@0G-Ghost
@0G-Ghost 2 года назад
Two things about the captain that don't think you talked about. One he is dog s*** in the void losing most visibilities and in an expansion steamed around void, that hurts. And if you have Mom's credit card you can hack multi shots and one go. Slightly better than trying to chance
@treekun7472
@treekun7472 Год назад
On mercenary, if you get 6 purities, you can permanantly spam his default special for infinite s
@nathanflinchum1153
@nathanflinchum1153 2 года назад
As far as commando goes, I find he works REALLY well early game (at least it bumps his damage by a lot for when it’s needed) if you can get an essence of heresy
@wonderface7131
@wonderface7131 2 года назад
I would maybe bump merc up to bottom of A tier (assuming you know the exposed transfer tech) but other than that good list. And yes I know I'm immediately proving your point about merc mains, shut up.
@InsaneToats
@InsaneToats 2 года назад
What is expose transfer? i main merc and have no idea.
@griffvideoman
@griffvideoman 2 года назад
yeah, what is this "exposed transfer" tech you speak of? Also whirlwind or rising thunder? I have always been a whirlwind fan.
@wonderface7131
@wonderface7131 2 года назад
@@griffvideoman i'm a whirlwind guy. As for the tech, rill explained it very well, but it's worth noting that if you use merc's alternate utility with it you can have almost permanent uptime due to the way the ability works. I might upload a video later to show off how it works.
@grotty9850
@grotty9850 2 года назад
@@wonderface7131 I would be interested in seeing that
@wonderface7131
@wonderface7131 2 года назад
@@grotty9850 Sure, I'm busy today so give me a while.
@mtj8870
@mtj8870 2 года назад
Another reason why void fiend is good on eclipse is because self-healing negates eclipse 1's half health start and has 2 abilities that negate fall damage on eclipse 3 (m1 and shift)
@user-bd6bb3mx9w
@user-bd6bb3mx9w 2 месяца назад
Most people think artificial was nerd in this update, but she was actually buffed. Yeah, she is not the only person with the execute mechanic but now she can use her ion surge, combined with another item that starts with the letter H and is in the red tier to basically annihilate anything also becomes easier to do this things to void fuel cell because it allows more height and combining that red item will allow you to basically do as much damage as captains utility
@mordlilo592
@mordlilo592 Год назад
As a commando main I agree with your placement for him on the eclipse tierlist [eclipse to hard :(] but I'd argue that he's actually quite good at looping. Early game he does low damage with his primary fire but the low cooldown on both his secondaries means he can either burst down golems or insta kill wisps. plus his barrage inflicts stun so he can stall and avoid damage well. He also has a very strong trait on his movement ability being that he can attack while sliding allowing him to maintain speed and dps. (also 1.0 proc coefficient go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
@mordlilo592
@mordlilo592 Год назад
oh right forgot to mention but he also has the best alt skin
@Yobamos
@Yobamos 2 года назад
can someone explain to me how Captain’s nuke skips Mithrix pillars?
@Demogarose
@Demogarose 2 года назад
if you summon it on yourself and stand in the exact center, when it hits you get launched SUPER high into the air. NEED to be in 1-shot protection range to pull it off though
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
you go to one of the tall buildings and sit in the middle of ur nuke. it'll propel you all the way up to mithrix
@Yobamos
@Yobamos 2 года назад
after seeing a stunt like that If I was mithrix id just give up right there
@m4rcyonstation93
@m4rcyonstation93 2 года назад
The spot is at the top of the soul/lunar pod building
@moderateexistence377
@moderateexistence377 2 года назад
I like power mode nail gun multi, I like doing the shoot thing and the sonic boom effect of nail gun shot gun effect is useful for getting around and avoiding damage.
@theendofthestart8179
@theendofthestart8179 6 месяцев назад
I love that loader gameplay you showed, I was like how is loader not higher? It’s literally a skill issue lmao
@ethanbryner9458
@ethanbryner9458 2 года назад
“These characters are the best, because I like them and refuse to learn others” bruh at least Woolley doesn’t straight up lie in his tier lists. Engi has NO movement and NO healing “but bungus.” What about loaders highest mobility in game along with extremely high damage? Not to mention her barrier for defense which admittedly isn’t healing but like come on bro Rex has all three stats you talk about but he isn’t good I guess although captain is who also doesn’t have healing OR mobility. Why did you make a big deal about healing, mobility, and damage and then not show information to even back it up other then void boy?
@omarahmedishrat774
@omarahmedishrat774 2 года назад
Can you please make a survivor feet tier list? It's for research purposes
@RematodeRanger
@RematodeRanger 2 года назад
I need this 😩
@icetide9411
@icetide9411 6 месяцев назад
Engineer carried me to my first few successful runs. Was using the mobile turret variant, and the things literally backwalked away from Mythrix and just bullied the guy. That was hilarious to watch.
@notveryartificial4486
@notveryartificial4486 Год назад
Artificer is all around S for me because nobody can hit her when she's floating 5 stories above. And also because no, one execution after 5 second charge-up and with 15 seconds of cooldown on railgunner is *not* making artificer redundant. Just freakin stack backup mags and syringes, and you can execute *anything* in *any* quantities with spears. They also do a ton of damage in general.
@poweredaqua
@poweredaqua 2 года назад
Here is a cool little idea, maybe do some runs with those survivors you say you "can't think of a way to make them work" instead of just guessing, like why make a video about personal opinion that was formedwithout experience
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
my reply will be made shortly >:(
@glaciergrain8735
@glaciergrain8735 2 года назад
@@rndThursday lmao
@TheCpg117
@TheCpg117 2 года назад
@@rndThursday oh no, we've been here before
@Phantom-jt3xc
@Phantom-jt3xc 2 года назад
That’s great but did you take into account he has absolute boatloads of experience and that his opinions are justified with i would say days of experience on each survivor making his opinions justifiable but also are you aware that these are his opinions so if you disagree you disagree and you don’t need to give him hate for what he stated is an opinion.
@poweredaqua
@poweredaqua 2 года назад
@@Phantom-jt3xc check pinned comment of his equipment tierlist
@CowKirbo
@CowKirbo 2 года назад
It is honestly criminal how much you underrate commando so much. He's not anywhere near that bad. He isn't the best survivor but he's honestly one of my top 3 and is super fun for me so I completely disagree but I don't play eclipse so idk there
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
its okay i might not think commando is good but
@thorjelly
@thorjelly 2 года назад
I tried playing mercenary again for once the other day. Hadn't played him for a long time, just basically enough to get all his unlocks. I was just astounded by how little damage he does. I was playing with artifact of vengeance and my umbra and myself couldn't even kill each other. It's such a shame because he'd have such a fun kit if he actually did any damage. Its nuts how there are some survivors that kill bosses from stage one in less than 10 seconds and some basically take over a minute.
@gazza1922
@gazza1922 2 года назад
You have to use his expose to do damage, he can absolutely do damage with the cool down reduction and bonus damage, it’s just harder than pressing m1 on other characters
@thorjelly
@thorjelly 2 года назад
@@gazza1922 I mean, I do. His kit is built to encourage you to cycle through all his abilities and use expose. He still does shit damage.
@Dondinkles
@Dondinkles Год назад
I started the game fairly recently, but so far, i can say that Bandit is my favorite, but then again, he is the only hero I have that isn't commando or huntress, so far
@ivymike2691
@ivymike2691 2 года назад
I've been maining the Void Fiend since I unlocked it and definitely one of the strongest options available. Really great for multiplayer too since you can leave some healing items for friends on early stages and rely on suppress.
@notveryartificial4486
@notveryartificial4486 Год назад
Unlocked VF recently, tried it out, got stomped on first stage on rainstorm, for some reason, and went to sleep, disappointed. Not the best first impression, but as everyone talk so much good stuff about it, maybe I'll give it another chance and try a bit better to make it work
@ivymike2691
@ivymike2691 Год назад
@@notveryartificial4486 I totally get what you're saying and I had a couple very poor early runs but figured it out quick. The main thing is managing your corruption level and understanding the strengths and weaknesses of lean vs mean. 1. Shift goes in sort of a j shape up in lean mode, not straight. I actually prefer this for reaching chests but it's not ideal for getting out of some sticky situations until you figure out the movement. Shift in mean mode is a line. Good for charging in towards bosses to unload damage or quick retreats 2. outside of bosses, you probably want to use R to keep from getting into mean mode pretty much all the time. Flexibility is better without it and you don't really need the damage 3. R in mean mode is pretty much never a good idea and I don't think I ever use it. 4. Once you get enough void items to start your corruption at 25% you can spam r for heals indefinitely. Get a little attack speed up (attack speed affects casting time of your other moves) and you can outheal a lot of damage sources in lean mode. I love this because when I'm playing with friends I can leave a lot of healing items for them. Also you can get it all the way up to 100% which usually means you're deep in a run and have a lot of items. Hopefully one of those items is wungus in large quantities. If so you are pretty set 5. Lean mode primary attack has a slow debuff. The slow itself is meh but it does help for proccing Death Mark. And M2 is enough to proc bands which allows you to pump out a lot of damage with fewer items than most survivors need. 6. Because of how corruption works a lot of healing items aren't helpful or are actively counterproductive. Focus on leeches. I also like fungus (either kind although bustling is better for hitting that stage where you're always charged to use R for heals). Medkits get in your way because they'll drop your corruption level without your control. Other than that, standard ror2 stuff. Keep moving, crit glasses, attack speed, and movement speed are your friend etc etc
@notveryartificial4486
@notveryartificial4486 Год назад
@@ivymike2691 funny enough, I just finished one run on Void Fiend, and it was *G L O R I O U S* This character is, indeed, quite great. My main error at first was a very rare use of "trespass", and general carelessness because I got too used to soaring in skies as Artificer :D Once I "switched" my brain to account for corruption instead of accounting for jetpack - everything was very smooth. Every time corruption hits 80 - I press R and throw it down to ~60. If I get into a tough situation - I get too involved in fighting and forget to manage corruption and it automatically "panic buttons" me, which gives me extra armor and A LOT of damage. Very handy. Void fiend is fun :D
@ivymike2691
@ivymike2691 Год назад
@@notveryartificial4486 glad to hear it!!
@orangetabby7122
@orangetabby7122 2 года назад
I was in a 16 player simulacrum server, and everybody decided to go engi except for a single loader. the server also had item sharing on, and somebody got bungus. the run ended after some umbras spawned and, well, ended the run.
@dddmemaybe
@dddmemaybe Месяц назад
11:10 The Captain has Agile attacks for the most part. The Artificer also charges her normal moves during sprint too.
@barragethree5047
@barragethree5047 Год назад
Oh boy the bit about Mercenary's invincibility reminds me of RoR1 Loader runs. One of his abilities was literally just invincibility
@ethanchristenson1177
@ethanchristenson1177 2 года назад
In the looping tier list huntress and merc should definitely be in S tier, huntress has one of the best mobilities in the game with her triple blink and does great damage with balista and her bouncy attack, super easy to use and incredibly strong. Merc takes a little more time to learn but once you get brainstalks on him you can have perma uptime on his i frames because youre constantly killing elites, its literally one of the most broken ability - item interactions in the game and makes you invincible, just saying. (I've heard this is possible with other item combinations too so...)
@epic1053
@epic1053 Год назад
huntress is so item dependent unless you're going to abuse/use lunar items and get a gesture every run more than half huntress eclipses runs are an instant loss due to enemies out scaling her damage You need to desperately get the right damage items. Had so many runs where I can't out damage a boss, (usually on stage 3-5) at the rate they're healing by mobs or it takes so long to till the run is killed off. If you're doing a run where you're picking the items she's S tier, past about stage 7-8 she becomes arguably the best character but getting to that point is a massive pain
@CrocodileWhispers
@CrocodileWhispers 2 года назад
I really hope they fix REX popping safer spaces by his own abilities... Like Tougher Times doesn't ever proc on you when you use abilities.... so why does safer spaces? Also can they increase the threshold on the Wanering Vagrant legendary item? I always try and abuse it when I play REX but find myself dying a lot.
@nobodysbusinezz
@nobodysbusinezz 2 года назад
released on a Thursday. classic. engi is my favorite too and I just have been too distracted with Elden Ring to play the expac. viend looks super dope and I am looking forward to reaping the benefits of my money.
@aultorable
@aultorable 2 года назад
Appreciate the readout for the “background noisers” out there
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
ive gotchu fam
@papascorch5215
@papascorch5215 Год назад
As engi, I ranked every boss in the game without moving. All I had to do was get the mushroom that heals when standing still, and just stand with my turrets.
@vibinjackals6711
@vibinjackals6711 Год назад
My two fav survivors are the bandit and captain as I love the mobility and damage of bandit and lights out can be really satisfying if you get some high streaks going and I love the captin because tactical nuke
@randomnessatitsfinest6089
@randomnessatitsfinest6089 5 месяцев назад
Personally my favorite thing to do as the bandit and why they are my personal favorite is To what I call pistol Pogo where you use his dash while in air so it launches you up a bit more and then you take out a weekend I mean using your pistol and if it insta kills it really charges your pistol and your dash and you dash again jumping up higher again and then you continue the processing how high you can get just make sure not to use your dash if there's no more enemies around else you'll fall as an addition to this if you have an enemy which you can get weakened in a few shots of the shotgun you can try and do those mid-air dad a little bit of flair.
@meatbug1
@meatbug1 Год назад
captain has one movement abilty. you can skip pillers on moon with the meme strike.
@justafish4452
@justafish4452 2 года назад
Bro you have fun playing engi, I take literal short naps when so get my setup
@arkfiya
@arkfiya 8 месяцев назад
As someone who likes rex, when Eclipse came around, you have no idea how much it hurt to read the later effects because its just WHY. Why completely fillet one of your survivors like a fish to be conpletely irrelevant. It hurts so much, Rex easily belongs in C tier for elcipse 8 runs.
@The1stSnap
@The1stSnap 2 года назад
Played the hunter with the new blue that reduces cooldowns by 50%. Literally was just invis the whole entire time
@macnolds4145
@macnolds4145 7 месяцев назад
We have very similar tastes. I essentially agree with nearly all of this (the exception is that I don't enjoy melee and up-close characters).
@esproomba1324
@esproomba1324 2 года назад
I used to main commando until I got tired of losing and played mul-T I do wish they would buff some of the worse characters like giving commando agile for his M1 and M2 or changing huntress auto aim to instead just be homing projectiles and regular aiming just minor changes like that
@colekam6443
@colekam6443 11 месяцев назад
quick question I just installed risk of rain 2 is there a way to keep the survivors base look like without items(it looks weird having a mushroom on captain)while still having items,i would like to know if there is a way with out mods
@polarian9105
@polarian9105 2 года назад
This might sound stupid but honestly I sometimes like commando. Not because I think he's strong he isn't. But I feel he most embodies the idea of the game where you start out with nothing and depending on items, gain more and more power. Where some survivors are just looking for one or two items that make them broken, commando loves attack speed, bleed builds, great at proc chains, needs mobility, needs healing, needs survivability, likes shorter cooldowns. Essentially every item you get makes him better and playing him can end up a few different ways depending what is enhanced. Then you feel so much better when you get good items and start to turn him into a beast.
@sleepyppl4286
@sleepyppl4286 2 года назад
mercenary is at least low a-tier looping, even with bad item rng it’s easy to do the first and second loops, plus you basically get to start the game with 7 teddy bears, though a minor damage buff would push him up to mid-high A-tier
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 года назад
cant see him being better than the others tho thats the main issue
@sleepyppl4286
@sleepyppl4286 2 года назад
@@rndThursdayi can respect that opinion, he isn’t for everyone, but i find him to be really consistent at getting to and above stage five
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